ELITE (THU) 06/23/2016Arena México [+LuchaTV, CMLL, Estrellas del Ring, SuperLuchas, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Karonte Jr., Magnus, Okumura b El Bandido, Hijo del Pantera, Magia Blanca
2) PJ Black & Volador Jr. b Lio Rush, Kushida, Bram, Camacho, David Tita, Jinder Mahal, Tama Tonga, Veneno, Heddi Karaoui, Sabú, Michael Elgin, DJZ [seeding battle royal]
2) Bram b Zumbi [Elite Internacional, 8f]
4) Lio Rush b David Tita [Elite Internacional, 8f]
5) DJZ b Hip Hop Man [Elite Internacional, 8f]
6) Tama Tonga b Chicano [Elite Internacional, 8f]
7) Sabú b Veneno [Elite Internacional, 8f]
8) Michael Elgin b Jinder Mahal [Elite Internacional, 8f]
9) Kushida b Heddi Karaoui [Elite Internacional, 8f]
10) Volador Jr. b PJ Black [Elite Internacional, 8f]
This was another Elite event where the attendance felt like the biggest story. Last week’s show was one of the bigger turnouts Elite’s had for a midweek show. This looked like one of the worst, for a pretty expensive show. It looked dire early, worse than the depths of a dead Tuesday show. It looks more filled in in later pictures, though some of that may be people being allowed to move down (usually not permitted at lucha shows.) The concept, at least as presented, did not seem to be a draw.
And that’s too bad, because the show sounded weird and occasionally good, as you hope for with these international tournaments. DJZ/Hip Hop Man and Volador & PJ Black sound like they went well. Black Terry Jr. posted video of that first match and Veneno/Sabu. Sabu was one of the most over guys, which suggests the people who showed up were mostly long time hardcore fans, since you’d have to really dig for tapes back in the day to see Sabu in Mexico.
Zumbi was on this show, happening at the same time as the Cruiserweight Classic tournament he was originally scheduled for. PWInsider reported he didn’t make weight. I do not believe that is correct, and I do not think anyone who’s seen Zumbi would believe that is the reason. He looked like the same small skinny guy as always last night. “Not making weight” might be the public story to cover up something else. (I’m not even sure if he even ever made to the building; he and Jinzo weren’t getting there until Wednesday, and I’ve not yet seen a photo of Zumbi in the performance center.) As far as I can find, no one’s posted an interview with Zumbi explaining the situation yet, but it may be coming.
NJPW mentions the wins for their wrestlers, which suggests they expect this tournament to go well for them. (It’s also weird that, since neither CMLL nor Elite posts a recap of their show, the only ‘official’ recap we get is when NJPW is involved.) As best we can figure, this is how the bracket goes – they changed the order of the matches from the elimination order in the battle royal, moving the bigger names to last. The semifinals will be the winner of Bram/Sabu vs the winner Lio/Elgin and the winner of DJ Z/Kushida vs the winner Tonga/Volador. My guess is Sabu vs Elgin and Kushida vs Volador, then Elgin beating Volador in the final. One of the NJPW guys has to take a loss, and the Volador win could set up the Volador/Kushida match I’ve been expecting. Volador’s already talking about that match in his post match interview.
I’m skeptical all of this will air. This was a normal length show, if maybe even longer. I would expect the top three or four matches will air tonight on Lucha Azteca 7, and the rest are cut down to highlights.
Magia Blanca & El Bandido teaming up is notable, since Blanca is Magnifico I and Bandido is presumed to be Magnifico II. That may be an acknowledgement of their relationship, since Magia Blanca is almost never otherwise used right now.
It’s a unclear if any of the losing foreigners are sticking around. PJ’s surely heading to LA, but not sure about the others.
Mas Luchas had good interviews with Michael Elgin & DJ Z from Wednesday. I assume those interviews are why Informa was pre-empted, but it seems more loosely organized than normal Elite press conferences. It works out for us because Mas Lucha got some good time with both guys, but the promoting of the show was shaky at best. After this show, PJ Black talked about wanting to come back for a rematch, even coming back for a month if Elite’s interested. He’s acted point blank about Lucha Underground and, while he doesn’t discuss details, says he’s in trouble for working with Elite.
Tonight’s CMLL show is a preview for the Gran Prix. Tanga Roa (or Tanga Loa) debuts, teaming with his brother Tama Tonga and Sam Adonis against Atlantis, Volador, and Diamante Azul. Everyone but Atlantis is in the Gran Prix next week. CMLL’s been calling the rudo trio “legión extranjera”, which is the name AAA used for years for their own evil foreigner unit. (I don’t think it’s a reference, just a common phrase.) Semimain has Kushida, Mistico and Marco versus Mascara, Shocker and Terrible; the preview notes Kushida trained under Arturo Beristain for at ime 10 years ago. The fourth match Rey Cometa, Super Porky, Valiente versus Cavernario, Felino, and Mr. Niebla in a preview match.
The one singles match on the show was Zeuxis defending her title against Princesa Sugehit, which CMLL’s teased as the start of a mask/mask match. It’s more credible than usual, since most of CMLL’s women end up unmasked, but I still expect Zeuxis to remain champion. The best match of the show might be the Fuego, Maya, titan versus Puma, Tiger, Bobby Z match, though they’ll be limited by being in the segunda. Opener is Shockercito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pierrothio.
The show will start at 8:30 pm and air on ClaroSports as normal. Unless my plane gets delayed, I won’t be able to record it, but other people probably will. I didn’t plan it this way, but it seems generally a safe show to skip, with most things being held for next week and the women’s title match the only storyline that might progress on this show.
Tickets for the Gran Prix are on sale, and run from 997 MXP ($53 USD) to 185 MXP ($10), though they’re only selling the lower areas online. That seems like the lower side for a CMLL major show. By comparison, Saturday’s Elite show are currently going for 720 down to 180.
Last night was the first taping for the Cruiserweight Classic. They taped four weeks of TV with all the opening round matches (4 per show.) If I’m not going to post Lucha Underground spoilers, it doesn’t make sense to be posting spoilers for that show either, but they’re pretty easy to find. (Start with this Twitter account.)
There are some useful not result details. Photos showed them listing Mascara Dorada’s name on the screen. I imagine it was a deal similar to Prince Devitt/Finn Balor, where they showed both to make sure everyone understood the guy’s other identity. Assuming they air the matches as taped, Mascara Dorada/Gran Metalik will appear on the July 13th show. Jinzo/Raul Mendoza will appear on the July 20th show.
I am told the order of the matches don’t necessarily set up the second round matches (the winner of the first match may not face the winner of the second match.) They’ll run a tournament preview show on the WWE Network on July 6th, and that may be when the entire bracket is revealed.
First of a run of DTU shows in northern Mexico, but this is the one with all the title matches so it’s slightly more interesting. Sharlie is also DTU Consgrado champion, so he could end up with both titles. The semimain is essentially a #1 contenders match for the tag titles; Titan & Triton are champs but not on these shows, and these are two teams that have been chasing them. This is Black Fire’s first title defense since returning from Germany.
AAA AULL (SAT) 07/02/2016Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Dinastía & Octagoncito vs Mini Histeria & Mini Psicosis
2) Heddi Karaoui, Johnny Idol, Toscano vs American Sweetness, Trauma I, Trauma II
3) Drago & Fénix vs Daga & Joe Lider
4) Texano vs Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías
Notable for the oddness of the new CMLL foreigners working on an otherwise AAA show.
MDA (SUN) 07/03/2016 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Azul & El Arkángel vs Elder & Sol Azteca
2) Extreme Boy & Último Sombra vs Gallardo & Gato Fantasma
3) Epydemius & Lince vs Obsesión & Tormento [Relevos Increíbles]
4) Metaleón & Último Ninja vs Golden & Ninja Jr. [Relevos Increíbles]
5) Hijo de LA Park & Laredo Kid vs Delta & Galactar
6) LA Park vs Volador Jr. vs Rush vs Caifan
Main event should be crazy. The middle two matches are the Monterrey vs Outsiders feud from the Elite shows and the usual lucha bit of teaming up people who’ve been feuding for two weeks.
The thing I’m neglecting to mention of late is the new second airing of Lucha Azteca in the US. A rerun, some 10 weeks behind, is airing before the ‘new’ show. I’d presume this means the show is doing pretty well if they’re doubling up on it. Perhaps they’ll expand the show to two hours if it sticks.
We won’t know what airs on Lucha Elite until tonight’s show finishes.
CMLL (TUE) 06/21/2016Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Martes de Glamour]
1) Linterna & Mr. Apolo b Capitán Cobra & Johnny Dinamo Rudos took 2/3.
2) Oro Jr., Pegasso, Stigma b Metálico, Sangre Azteca, Skándalo Tecnicos took 1/3. Oro beat Metalico, who seemed to have the match won.
3) Furia Roja, Hechicero, Sagrado b Ángel de Oro, Esfinge, Tritón Rudos took 2/3, Furia Roja unmasking Esfinge and pinning him for the win. This sets up a mask match next week.
4) Diamante Azul, Rush, Titán DQ La Máscara, Rey Bucanero, Vangellys Tecnicos took 2/3. Rush fouled Mascara, Mascara fouled Rush, ref caught only the second.
5) Atlantis, Máximo Sexy, Mistico b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mr. Niebla Scheduled to a Mexican Trios title defense, but Mephisto (injury) was replaced by Mr. Niebla and no title match was held. Tecnicos took 1/3.
This means Mephisto didn’t get on the bus to Guadalajara, so they likely knew he wasn’t going to be on the Gran Prix show when they were doing Informa talking about the Gran Prix. It just didn’t come up. (They also could’ve just announced the title match being off on Informa to let people in Guadalajara know. But nah.)
The official CMLL story is Mephisto strained his groin worked on Sunday in Naucalpan. I’d believe he made it worse there, but Mephisto was obviously hurting before that point. Mephisto will be out 2-3 weeks, with La Mascara taking his place on the Mexico Gran Prix team. That confirms Pierroth/La Mascara won’t be happening on 07/01, which seemed to be the case as soon as the announced Cavernario/Cometa.
I still don’t believe they’re saving Mascara/Pierroth for the Anniversary show.
IWRG FILL (WED) 06/22/2016Arena Naucalpan [The Gladiatores]
1) Araña de Plata, Lilith Dark, Skanda b Chica Pantera, Magic Dragón, Voltar
2) Discordia, Enigma, Guerrero 2000 b Pequeño Dragón, Pumita, Rey Destello
3) Águila Oriental, Keiser Dragón, Omega b Adrenalina, Keshin Black, Osiris
4) Blue Monsther, Geo, Mike b Acero, Hip Hop Man, Picudo Jr. Acero and Hip Hop Man argued over who in charge, which spelled their defeat.
5) Aramis, Dragón Fly, Fireman, Galaxy, Hijo del Alebrije, Kanon, Shadow Boy, Zatura b Ángel Guerrero, Ares I, Ares II, Camaleón I, Camaleón II, Fight Panther, Guerrero Azteca, the Tiger (Tamaulipas) [Copa Higher Power] Gym FILL (Black Terry) vs Gym Promciones del Norte (Apolo Estrada Jr.) Camaleon II, Guerrero Azteca, The Tiger replaced Angel Dorado I, Pirata Negra, Rey Nocturno. Match came down to Shadow Boy and Tiger, with Apolo helping his guy to win.
Hip Hop Man is working as an extra coordinator (and occasional luchador) on the upcoming Blue Demon series and very much enjoyed the most recent Mexico soccer game, according to his Twitter.
Zumbi appears to no longer be in the Cruiserweight Classic. His profile is no longer on the website, replaced by Chicago area wrestler (and occasional GALLI luchador) Mustafa Ali. There’s been no other acknowledgement or explanation of what’s going on. The rumor, and I’m emphasizing rumor because a) I haven’t heard it first hand and b) I suspect we’ll be able to confirm the story or get the right one sooner rather than later, is WWE saw that Zumbi was also booked in Elite and wouldn’t let him no-show that date to work for them. The thing is, Zumbi was taken off the Elite poster – he’s not on it now – so there’s reason to be skeptical of that as the reason.
PJ Black is on the poster and is indeed in Mexico as Elite advertised and working the Elite show tonight. This does not appear to have affected his Lucha Underground status, except that he’s almost surely losing tonight, since he’s probably needed back in LA on Saturday. (They could always just scheduled matches to give him Friday off.) When PJ was listed on the poster, the expectation is AAA would force him off the show as they did with Cage. That hasn’t happened, so there must be some different circumstances – it’s can’t be that all LU guys are prohibited from working Elite, but maybe just those who had worked in AAA? Or were offered more work in AAA? It definitely suggests AAA has less control of LU than previously believed.
The full filed for the Elite tournament is as Tama Tonga (listed as from Tonga), Lio Rush (USA), Kushida (Japan), Bram (England), PJ Black (South Africa), Camacho (Puerto Rico), David Tita (Cameron), Jinder Mahal (India), Volador Jr. (Mexico), Veneno (Panama), Heddi Karoui (France), Sabu (Saudi Arabia), Michael Elgin (Canada), and DJZ (Philippines). It’s 14 names for what originally listed as a 16 man tournament. The format of the tournament is assumed to be single elimination, but Elite doesn’t generally explain those sorts of details ahead of time. The show starts at 8pm tonight and should air Friday on Azteca. The finals are on Saturday.
Arez, of the Indystrongibles, has decided no longer to be “Arez”. He’s leaving up to the fans to pick between his two choices for new names: Aken orSaharawi. Saharawi is his real name. Aken is the Egyptian ferryman of the underworld, though I’m not sure if that’s where he got the name. Either way, there so many people using Ares/Arez in Mexico that there’s some real benefit to changing his name once he gets it established. If we can only get the Relampagos to do this next…
Mascarita Dorada told Apolo Valdes that he enjoying working in WWE for the last three years, even if couldn’t fully show his talent. He knew going in that Americans would see minis as clowns and not real wrestlers, but feels he some new chances, including being in the Royal Rumble and being on PPV (the WeeLC match.) Dorada says he’s thankful for WWE supporting him when it came to medical issues, including surgery on his knee, and singles out Alberto Del Rio as someone who spoke up for him. Dorada says he’s got a lot of work in the US, but would be open to returning to Mexico in August if the deal is right now. He doesn’t see retirement coming soon.
Ricochet doesn’t seem to believe he was offered the money MLW Radio reported he was offered.
TKD and Eric have reviews of last night’s Lucha Underground.
Daga defeated Máscarita Sagrada (2:12, russian legsweep into a crossface, OK)
Killshot [O], Siniestro de la Muerte, Marty the Moth defeated Cortez Castro, Mr. Cisco [X], Joey Ryan versus (8:04, Killshot double stomp move, OK)
Sexy Star & Mariposa [O] defeated Ivelisse [X] & Taya (9:58, Mariposa running Schwein -> Sexy Star pin, OK) for two Aztec Medallions
The main title match for Lucha Underground is already set, and this episode was focused on working out the undercard. Two matches were definitely set, and more seem strongly suggested.
The biggest match isn’t for anything but pride. Prince Puma, in his first in-ring interview, explained that Konnan (mentioned by name) would motivate him by telling him he could be the next Rey Mysterio. Puma has even more respect for Rey after being champion with him, but wants to know if he actually be the next Rey Mysterio, or if Prince Puma is even better. Puma wants a match at Ultima Lucha. Rey Mysterio appeared to give credit to Prince Puma for being good, but noted “you are a prince, and I am El Rey.” Mysterio also wants to know if he’s still the best, and accepted the match for Ultima Lucha 2.
Ultima Lucha 2 will also have a seven way Gift of the Gods match. There were three qualifying matches on thie show, seemingly was as many consequences for the losers as the winners.
Daga defeated Máscarita Sagrada for one Medallion. Kobra Moon watched on, but didn’t get involved this time. Famous B didn’t get involved, but seemed to wish he did. Instead, he attacked Sagrada, blaming the mini for all the losses he’d taken since coming under Famous B’s management, and vowed to get a new/better client. (Brenda didn’t seem happy about all of this.)
Killshot, Siniestro de la Muerte and Marty the Moth picked up Medallions by surprsingly being a more cohesive team the than Castro, Mr. Cisco, and Joey Ryan trio. Yet another argument between the police directly led to the loss. Peace was kept on the winning team by Marty giving Killshot back his dogtags, but Marty stole them right back at the end of the match. (Not sure if it’s important, but Catrina was not with Siniestro this time either.)
Neither team in the women’s tag match really got along, but it was a misamed Taya spear on Ivelisse which essentially ended the match. Sexy Star dodged out of the way, and later was thrown on the pin by Mariposa.
The seven medallion went to the debuting Night Claw, who simply was handed it by Dario in a office segment (similar to how Big Ryck got his in Season 1.) Night Claw is a man in a black cat mask, described as a descedent of the Jaguar tribe, and hyped as the next great upcoming luchador – the next Prince Puma. (This started the show, nicely dovetailing with Puma’s own “the Next” to end the show.) We won’t see him in action until Ultima Lucha 2, but Dario warned him that overconfidence called the Jaguar tribe to be the first to be destroyed by the Aztec Gods, and told him not to make the same mistake. Announcers were aware a new wrestler had been given a Medallion, but did not know his name or identity.
The was one more midshow office vignette, with Dario finally meeting with Dragon Azteca. Dario revealed to Azteca that he would fight Black Lotus, and revealed to the audience that he’s manipulating these two. Cueto didn’t outright admit it, but he strong hinted to Azteca that it was Black Lotus who killed the previous Dragon Azteca. That doesn’t seem like something you’d do if you saw Black Lotus as an ally, but instead something that’d happen if you wanted them to destroy each other.
I find myself comparing episodes to ones from last season a lot in this final third. This reminds me of the “Aztec Medallion” show late last year, where the hour was also spent on handing out Medallions to round out the Gift of the Gods match. It seems likely to be a Lucha Underground staple; they’re always going to want to do a 7 way match at Ultima Lucha, and it’s usually going to require getting a lot of Medallion matches done quickly.
This matches on this show got more time and were better than those; I didn’t give a high grade to anything, but the trios match wasn’t far off and the women’s match had some moments. Both were essentially doing relevos increibles matches, and I’ve kind of become just dismissive of that concept in general from having seen it so many times both in Mexico and here. It wasn’t as a negative as other times, the stakes of the matches forced them to do amost normal matches, but it’s nothing that interests me.
It doesn’t help that most of the feuds involved don’t feel that important right now. Marty/Killshot is the best one of the group. The Police stuff is interesting more for the outside the ring mythology than to see then squabble yet again. Taya/Ivelisse doesn’t feel like it has any stakes, almost like it was randomlly generated. And I was disappointed they didn’t play out the feelings from the end of No Mas more; a Mariposa who was tough but as scared of Sexy Star as Sexy had been scared of her earlier in the season would’ve been a progession, instead of defaulting back to the tecnico/rudo defaults.
Night Claw comes off as Lucha Underground’s attempt to create another Drago like character (though one where they’d definitely own the image rights.) It’s a grand introduction to give the guy we know as (spoiler) Flamita, and I’m interested in watching how they handle him. LU obviously had no idea his tenure in AAA is about to come to an end and they seemed to have big plans for him here by pinning him to one of the tribes. Backing away from him might be a challenge, though we may have to wait to Season 3 to see Night Claw’s mug on a wall.
There is a bit of a problem with the Gift of the Gods match. Just like the recent match, it’s a lot of people on the fringes of the roster. Sexy Star’s the only person on the list who’s won a feud. Otherwise, it’s a lot of people who may secretly be good – Daga, Mariposa, Siniestro to pick three – but haven’t been successful. They are building it up with a feud, Killshot & Sexy each have issues with the Moths, but maybe not with credibility. I think it probably means good things for Ultima Lucha 2 itself – they grabbed the big guys into matches and this is obviously leftovers – but it’s going to be hard to believe the winner has a shot at Matanza. There doesn’t appear to be a Cage coming this time.
The Famous B storyline feels like it went too long, and didn’t do much for Máscarita at all. The too long thing might not be helped – this feels like another thing they’ve paced out for Ultima Lucha – but I hope there’s some better day for Sagrada to come.
Ultima Lucha 2 lineup
Pentagon Jr. vs Matanza (c) for the Lucha Underground Championship
Night Claw, Daga, Marty the Moth, Killshot, Siniestro de la Muerte, Mariposa, Sexy Star in a Gift of the Gods championship match
CMLL (SUN) 06/19/2016Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Domingos Familiares CMLL]
1) Capitán Cobra & Cosmos DCOR Gitano & Relámpago Rudos took first, tecnicos the second, and somehow everyone got counted out after tecnico dives.
2) Linterna, Mr. Brisa, Thunder Boy b Explosivo, Reycko, Star Black straight fall for the rudos. Gitano & Relampago came in to help unmask the tecnicos post match, with Cosmos & Capitan Cobra making the save. Cage match is next week.
3) Nautilius b Joker Nautilus took 2/3, setting up a title match next week.
4) Esfinge & Tritón b Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Furia Roja & Furia Roja Jr. DQ Halcón Furia & Magnum and El Yaqui & Nube Roja and El Lider & Ráfaga and El Brujo & Fugaz and Centella & Évola father (Brujo, Lider, Nube Roja, Centella, Furia Roja, Magnum)/son (Fugaz, Rafaga, Yaqui, Evola, Furia Roja Jr., Halcon Furia) tag tournament, though the rules where the entire team would be eliminated when anyone on the team was pinned. Match came down to the Furia Rojas vs Lider/Rafaga, with Rafaga fouling Furia Roja for the DQ. The fathers were honored post match.
The “win” keeps a win streak for Furia Roja leading into next Tuesday.
CMLL (TUE) 06/21/2016Arena México [CMLL, thecubsfan]
1) Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia b Fantasy & Último Dragóncito 12:53. Rudos took 2/3.
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Soberano Jr., Star Jr. b Cancerbero, Disturbio, Raziel 18:43. Tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Estrellita, Lluvia, Marcela DQ Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany 10:47. Tecnicos took 1/2, the last by ref shove DQ. Estrellita and Dalys fought after the match
4) Misterioso Jr. b Blue Panther Jr. [lightning] 6:33. Misterioso won with Gori Special.
5) Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión b Blue Panther, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa 12:36. Rudos took 1/3.
6) Stuka Jr., Valiente, Volador Jr. b Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero 11:08. Guerreros took 1/3 clean.
I liked the second match and the main event, but there weren’t much storyline advancements. A couple weeks ago, Estrellita talked in Box Y Lucha about the one thing she still wanted to accomplish was to win the world title. I thought that was generic interview filler, but perhaps she knew this feud was coming.
Last night on Informa, Barbaro Cavernario and Rey Cometa signed for a hair match on 07/01, as part of the Gran Prix iPPV. There were good promos and emotion to the Informa segment, but not really any suspense or build up to doing it – it was announced in the show preview on Facebook. Barbaro Cavernario had face scars from taking Cometa’s title belt in his face on Friday, and I suspect the original plan was to sign the contract on Friday before he got hurt. (Of course, I thought that to start, so maybe I’m just clinging to a wrong belief.) That match makes the iPPV much more interesting, since it’s sure to be a great match.
Today might be an Elite press conference. I never know with them. We do know they’re occasionally posting videos from the people in their field on Facebook, and they posted a PJ Black video yesterday, so he must really be coming to the tournament on Thursday. I don’t know that he has a great chance of making it to the Saturday final, but I’m still stunned AAA didn’t put a stop to it. Dorian Roldan scoffed at the idea of this happening on Twitter earlier (and I guess it still hasn’t actually happened.)
The Saturday Elite show is probably why they’re not running Sabado Retros this week. CMLL hasn’t said anything. They’re off the following week for boxing. The last time they were off two weeks in a row, they said Coliseo would be “indefinitely” closed and people were worried they weren’t running in the building at all any more, so maybe they’re just trying not saying anything this time.
Today’s Lucha Underground is episode 22 of 26 in this second season, titled “Fame & Fortune”.
Mr. Cisco, Cortez Castro and Joey Ryan versus Killshot, Siniestro de la Muerte, Marty the Moth for 3 Aztec Medallions
Daga versus Mascarita Sagrada for 1 Aztec Medallion (clip)
Sexy Star & ? vs Taya & ?? (Ivelisse is pictured) – stipulation not announced, but I bet you can put it together.
The preview also mentions the arrival of a new luchador, which is going to be a thing we’re going to be talking about after.
FWIW #1: I have other commitments tonight (unless they get washed out), and the Lucha Underground recap will be a fewer hours later.
FWIW #2: I am heading to Los Angeles for Lucha Underground this weekend. I was lucky enough to send in an email for tickets quick enough, and have spent the last few days overthinking how I’m going to do this. I’m leaving Friday night and getting back Monday afternoon. I don’t think I’ll be getting Claro this week – my flight takes off a couple minutes before it goes live – and the update schedule will be strange. Also, if you have ideas on what I should do with myself between the time they hand out the line number and the time they actually let people in, let me know.
On MLW Radio, MSL said he heard Prince Puma has been offered a new contract around $300K a year. The deal is said to be paid for by El Rey itself and not Lucha Underground. Length is unknown. The deal would allow him to continue to work with NJPW as well. His current deal ends after this weekend. It’s a given he’ll be offered a deal by WWE, but it’s unlikely it’ll be the same take home pay.
The deal sounds like it can be compared to WCW’s deal with Hulk Hogan, which was paid by Turner itself and not WCW, or Sting being paid by Spike TV instead of TNA, and the contract would still be good if Lucha Underground is not picked up after season 3. The difference is those channels were much higher revenue business than El Rey, which only seems to be producing two series (Lucha Underground and From Dusk Till Dawn.) El Rey seems to be going as far as Lucha Underground goes and isn’t inherently more stable like Turner or Viacom. (You can ignore this whole paragraph if the deal is being paid by Univison.)
On the other hand, that’s really good money! And Lucha Underground isn’t going to make Prince Puma do public workouts on Facebook live any time soon; there’s a lot of freedom in Lucha Underground and NJPW that just isn’t available in WWE. WWE would also make him prove himself from scratch, which he obviously wouldn’t have to do if he stayed.
This weekend seems like a time for LU announcements. The Season 3 deal was officially announced at the end of the last Season 2 tapings (though it had been rumored for a while.) Season 4 hasn’t been officially announced yet.
Johnny Mundo’s also come up in rumors of WWE returns; he himself has previously mentioned WWE’s contacted him about his status. This podcast said he’s still under contract to Lucha Underground.
On the same podcast, Konnan says the Tampico Guerra de Titanes show was canceled due to “not getting permission from the right people.” This is just a guess, but I’m assuming “the right people” in this case were not governmental officials. Definitely people in power, but not elected power, if you’re following. Remind me never to run a business in Mexico, it’s crazy.
AAA put up a teaser for the Lucha World Cup, which I presume means some (edited?) version of it will air as part of their regular TV show. The logical place is just after TripleMania, so the PPV doesn’t air right away, but that’s a ways off. They’ve got so much TV scheduled in July that it seems unlikely to air soon, or everything will be on a bigger delay.
The AAA show in Monterrey on Sunday had a scheduled with a main event of Pagano, Psycho Clown, and a mystery shadow. The picture on the poster was a shadow of Pentagon Jr. doing the 0M sign. Fans showed up to see Pentagon. The main event was Pagano, Psycho Clown and…Joe Lider. (Enough fans still liked the match to throw in money.)
CMLL (TUE) 06/28/2016Arena México
1) Bengala & Leono vs Apocalipsis & Artillero
2) Astral, Eléctrico, Stukita vs Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico
3) Estrellita, La Vaquerita, Lluvia vs Dalys, La Seductora, Reyna Isis
4) Fuego vs Virus [lightning]
5) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Súper Porky vs Bobby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
6) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Titán vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero
Esterllita/Dalys continue. Dragon Rojo & Polvora team with another possible Revolucionario. Main event could be good, with Dorada right back in the mix.
CMLL (TUE) 06/28/2016Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Magnum & Vaquero Jr. vs Carlo Roggi & Diplomático
2) Pegasso, Starman, Tritón vs Fujin, Raijin, Skándalo
3) Esfinge vs Furia Roja [mask]
4) Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy, Michael Elgin vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
5) Atlantis, Kushida, Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas, Tama Tonga, Tangaroa
Two week build on a mask match! Guessing Elgin is working opposite of Rey Bucanero. This still seem like the not-optimum use of Kushida, unless he and Volador are going to have a match.
I liked third match the best. The new foreigners were fine. Idol being a CMLL foreigner with blond hair who does a springboard moonsault as his big move seems vaguely familiar.
CMLL has an ordinary show tonight in Arena Mexico. Last week was the Guerrero Maya/Dragon Rojo title match, and nothing else was generally built up. There’s six matches on the card, but no ongoing stories. The main event is volador, Stuka, and Valiente vs Ultimo Guerrero, Euforia and Niebla Roja. The semimain is Blue Panther, Rey Cometa, and Guerrero Maya versus the reunited (for at least a night) Revolucionarios: Dragon Rojo, Polvora and Rey Escorpion. Those two matches have the best chance to be good.
The first four are a more of a mixed bag. Ultimo Dragoncito & Fantasy face Pequeno Olimpico & Pequeno Violencia in an probably low action opener. Hombre Bala, Star Jr. & Soberano are in action, though against Raziel & Cancerbero once again. Disturbio will be their third wheel tonight. The women’s match is Marcela, Estrellita, Lluvia vs Dalys, Amapola and Tiffany, and the lightning match is Blue Panther Jr. versus Misterioso.
The show will air as at 7:30pm CT on CMLL.com & YouTube.
CMLL Informa will also air in those same places at 4pm today. (This actually means there’s competing CMLL webstreams; Claro’s Mexico-only broadcast of Titanes del Ring is the at same time.) Informa is said to be moved to Tuesday because of something else going on Wednesday. It’s presumably a press conference with Elite and the international wrestlers, but no one’s said so publicly in usual Elite fashion.
IWRG FILL (WED) 06/22/2016Arena Naucalpan
1) Chica Pantera, Magic Dragón, Voltar vs Araña de Plata, Lilith Dark, Skanda
2) Pequeño Dragón, Pumita, Rey Destello vs Discordia, Enigma, Guerrero 2000
3) Águila Oriental, Keiser Drago, Omega vs Adrenalina, Keshin Black, Osiris
4) Acero, Hip Hop Man, Picudo Jr. vs Blue Monsther, Geo, Mike
5) Aramis, Dragón Fly, Fireman, Galaxy, Hijo del Alebrije, Kanon, Shadow Boy, Zatura vs Ángel Dorado I, Ángel Guerrero, Ares I, Ares II, Camaleón II, Fight Panter Jr., Pirana Negra, Rey Nocturno [Copa Higher Power] Gym FILL (Black Terry) vs Gym Promciones del Norte (Apolo Estrada Jr.)
Back to normal for Naucalpan after IWRG was replaced by other show last week. Promociones del Norte are Guerrero based, though some in Chilpancingo and some in Acapulco.
IWRG (SUN) 06/26/2016Arena Naucalpan
1) Fireman vs Atomic Star
2) Alas de Acero & Aramis vs Adrenalina & Hip Hop Man
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Black Terry, Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro, Violencia Jr.
4) Danny Casas, Hijo De Dos Caras, Zatura vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Relámpago, Toscano
5) Canis Lupus, Eterno, Máscara Año 2000 Jr. vs Mr. Electro, Trauma I, Trauma II
Only in Box Y Lucha (which means it’s subject to change.) Electro/Mascara continues in the main event, though the preview pushes the issues with other four more.
CMLL (MON) 06/27/2016Arena Puebla
1) Centella Roja & Rey Samuray vs El Malayo & Saurón
2) Black Tiger, Hombre Bala Jr., Súper Halcón Jr. vs Ares, King Jaguar, Policeman
3) Estrellita, Marcela, Skadi vs Amapola, La Comandante, Zeuxis
4) Fuego, Stigma, Stuka Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
5) Johnny Idol, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Rey Escorpión, Tama Tonga, Tangaroa
6) Rush vs Cibernético
Rush/Cibernetico happening for the first time ever in Puebla is odd. The semimain may be interesting. The fourth match has Pierroth back with the Boricuas because reasons.