great match roundup, week of 2017-01-21

The last two weeks of FansticaMania meant I liked a lot. Still searching for the first Excellent match but a lot of Good matches all around. Even in AAA! I think this the fewest percentage of matches below the cut line since I’ve started to do this.

Down to four shows a week, which means I’m going to try and make doing a bonus recap/catchup as part of the rotation, but we’ll see. Just catching up on recaps this point was a pain.

Good or better matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Atlantis vs Rush NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
great Máximo Sexy © vs Hechicero for the CMLL World Heavyweight Championship NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
great Mistico vs Euforia NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
great Volador Jr. vs Último Guerrero NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
great Mephisto © vs Carístico for the CMLL World Welterweight Championship Mephisto © vs Carístico for the CMLL World Welterweight Championship (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27
good Big Mami, Dinastía, Máscara de Bronce vs Lady Shani, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown Big Mami, Dinastía, Máscara de Bronce vs Lady Shani, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown (posted by thecubsfan) Lucha inicial de Chilpancingo Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Enero 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) AAA on Televisa: 2017-01-21 2016-12-17
good Angélico, Australian Suicide, Garza Jr. vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Parka Negra, Súper Fly Angélico, Australian Suicide, Garza Jr. vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Parka Negra, Súper Fly (posted by thecubsfan) Lucha semifinal desde Chilpancingo Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Enero 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) AAA on Televisa: 2017-01-21 2016-12-17
good Stuka Jr. vs Okumura NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
good Kushida, Ryusuke Taguchi, Soberano Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Okada, Will Ospreay NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
good David Finlay, Dragón Lee, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Juice Robinson, Titán vs Bushi, EVIL, Hiromu Takahashi, Naito, Sanada NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
good Mistico & Volador Jr. vs Euforia & Último Guerrero NJPW World: 2017-01-21 2017-01-21
good Jushin Liger, Stuka Jr., Tiger Mask vs Hechicero, Okumura, Raziel NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
good Dragón Lee & Titán vs Bushi & Hiromu Takahashi NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
good Juice Robinson, Máximo Sexy, Ryusuke Taguchi vs Ephesto, Okada, Will Ospreay NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
good Atlantis, David Finlay, Hiroshi Tanahashi, Kushida vs EVIL, Naito, Rush, Sanada NJPW World: 2017-01-22 2017-01-22
good Pegasso, Stigma, Tritón vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, VirusLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-01-24 2017-01-24
good Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Ripper, Sam Adonis, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ENERO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-01-24 2017-01-24
good Shockercito & Stukita vs Demus 3:16 & Mercurio Shockercito & Stukita vs Demus 3:16 & Mercurio (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27
good La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27
good Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Forastero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs El Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27
good Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero Dragón Lee, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on 2017-01-27 2017-01-27

Everything else:


Volador defeats Rey Fenix, CMLL weekend results

photo by Black Terry Jr.

CMLL (SAT) 02/04/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Mercurio & Pierrothito b Fantasy & Último Dragóncito
2) Artillero, Hijo del Signo, Nitro b Flyer, Sensei, Star Jr.
tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis b La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit
Rudos took 2/3.
4) Atlantis, Máximo Sexy, Valiente b Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla
Tecnicos took 2/3
5) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero b La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush [Relevos Increíbles]
UG snuck in a foul on Rush. Rush wants a rematch.

UG vs Rush is an odd rudo/rudo match to do, but one they’ve done in the past.

Cara Lucha (SAT) 02/04/2017 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Imperio Negro, Samael, Ying Sang b Caballero De Plata, Estrella De Oro, Hijo de Clímax
2) Hermano Calavera I & Hermano Calavera II b Drako & Sádico
3) Templario © b Corsario Negro Jr. [CaraLucha The Best] Templario vs Corsario Negro Jr. (campeonato) | Cara Lucha | 04-02-17 (posted by TVLuchaMundial)
first defense. Said to be good match.
4) Black Terry & Toxin b Rayo Star & Titán (CMLL) [Juventud y Gloria, quarterfinal] Titan y Rayo Star vs Black Terry y Toxin | Cara Lucha | 04-02-17 (posted by TVLuchaMundial)
Good match. Terry & Toxin face Demus 3:16 & Yoruba on a future show
5) Volador Jr. b Fénix El Rey Volador Jr. vs Fenix | Cara Lucha | 04-02-17 (posted by TVLuchaMundial) Volador Jr. vs Rey Fénix, mano a mano inédito en Caralucha (4 Febrero 2017) (posted by +LuchaTV)
Good match (though maybe not better than that.) Volador challenged Fenix to a mask vs hair match.

Add these three matches to the already long list of matches I want to see but haven’t gotten around to enough to have a coherent opinion.

CMLL (SUN) 02/05/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Leono, Magnus, Marvel b Akuma, Apocalipsis, Inquisidor
Would’ve been Espiritu Negro first match here since August, but Akuma replaced him. Magnus’ first match here since November.
2) Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther b Cancerbero, Canelo Casas, Skándalo
3) Hechicero, Sam Adonis, Vangellys b Blue Panther, Johnny Idol, Stuka Jr.
Rudos took 2/3.
4) Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
5) Carístico DQ Negro Casas
Caristico took 1/3, the last with a foul.

This show, which actually had a worthwhile main event, is not on VOD after last week’s one mysterious was on VOD. On the other hand, the DQ finish makes it not that worthwhile.

AAA put this week’s TV show up. This is great, because my recording failed. Those singles title matches did not air. I think that means they’re not official title defenses by normal AAA standards. (That is not important AT ALL to anyone but me.)

Roshfrans revealed their AAA tie up project will be announced on Tuesday. Konnan thinks it’s another talent search in the vein of Quien Pinta para la Corona.

The press release announcing Dorian Roldan as GM of Lucha Underground showed up in Mexico this weekend. Not sure what took so long.

Fresero Jr. posted a photo of him at the TV Azteca office, saying Lucha Elite would be coming back soon.

Penta and Daga are in Texas on 02/15.

Lucha Memes 02/19 in Coliseo Coacalco
1: Totem I & II vs Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako 
2: Ronnie Mendoza vs Hechicero
3: Diva Salvaje & Demasiado vs Baby Star & Black Metal
4: Astrolux vs Demus 3:16 – oh no Astrolux is going to die

02/09 in Tier 1 in New York will have Rey Horus vs Penta el Zero Miedo.

04/01 Wrestling Revolver in Orlando will have Rey Fenix & Penta el Zero M vs Brian Cage & Sami Callihan

04/01 SHIMMER in Orlando will have Dulce Garcia.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

Sexy Violeta talks about getting into wrestling.

Ultimo Guerrero posted a video that references a meme I don’t know, I assume. Still kind of funny.


CMLL (SAT) 02/11/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala & Leono vs Akuma & Sangre Imperial
2) Flyer, Magnus, Sensei vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Nitro, Sangre Azteca
3) Blue Panther Jr., Fuego, The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Skándalo
4) Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Mistico vs El Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón
5) La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

More loaded Saturday card this year. Main event is a rematch, which maybe means the Rush/UG match on 02/18.

CMLL (SUN) 02/12/2017 Arena México
1) Magia Blanca & Marvel vs Artillero & Camorra
2) Astral, Star Jr., Starman vs Disturbio, Okumura, Virus
3) Blue Panther, Drone, Tritón vs Bobby Z, Forastero, Sam Adonis
4) Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol, Valiente vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Felino, Pólvora
5) Mistico, Titán, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

Kinda-Sky Team vs Guerreros in the main event. Whatever reason is causing Johnny Idol to miss Tuesday’s show isn’t affected his other matches. Bobby Z still being listed as Bobby Z, FWIW. Astral getting a more normal match on his second appearance.

CMLL (SUN) 02/12/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Avispón Negro Jr. & Micro vs Destructor & Guerrero de la Muerte
2) Capitán Cobra, El Alteño, Fugaz vs Carlo Roggi, Linterna, Mr. Brisa
3) Flash II vs Maléfico, Vaquero Jr., Ráfaga, Smaker, Difunto, Explosivo, Relámpago, Star Black, Rey Trueno [Copa Guadalajara, cibernetico]
match in honor of Guadalajara reaching 475 years.
4) Frezzer & Furia Roja vs Joker & Sádico [hair]
2 hairs vs 2 hairs

That rudo/rudo feud ending in a hair match had been clear for a while, but it being 2v2 is a little bit of a surprise. Frezzer just lost his mask and this looks like a ending for him his brother Furia Roja, but smaller shows are more likely to surprise.

Zorro to the Crash, CMLL Torneo Increible de Parejas, Diamante Azul/Pierroth

Titan takes out both cave creatures

CMLL (FRI) 02/03/2017 Arena México [CMLL, thecubsfan]
1) Eléctrico & Shockercito b Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
Tecnicos took 1/3
2) Fuego, Pegasso, Soberano Jr. b Disturbio, Okumura, Virus
12:41. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Bobby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora b Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa
Revolucionarios took 1/3.
4) Cavernario b Titán [lightning]
Cavernario at 9:44, just before the time limit.
5) Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy b El Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón
15:53. Tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Volador Jr. DQ La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush [Relevos Increíbles]
6:04. Ingobernables were DQed in the first fall after taping Diamante Azul to the ropes. They tied him to the ropes in the second fall, but he ducked out of his mask to foul Pierroth and get the pin. Ingobernbales beat him up again after the match.

I liked the lightning match and what I could see of the tercera. (I didn’t put the link up there because my copy is not useful.) The main event was painful.

CMLL made a couple changes to Tuesday’s Arena Mexico card. Mr. Niebla replaces Negro Casas in the main event, and Soberano Jr. gets a fourth match appearance when he replaces Johnny Idol.

The Crash news

The rest of the lineups are below, but there’s big news in this one

The Crash (SAT) 02/25/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Flamita © vs Séptimo Dragón [The Crash CRUISER]
2) Arkángel Danger, Black Boy, Oraculo vs Black Danger, Tiago, Último Maldito
3) Masada (Texas) & Nicho el Millionario vs Aeroboy & Violento Jack [rancho de texas]
4) Jack Evans, Máscarita Dorada, Willie Mack vs Bestia 666, Juventud Guerrera, Laredo Kid
5) Rey Horuz & Ricochet vs Daga & Fénix El Rey
6) Blue Demon Jr., Garza Jr., Zorro vs Brian Cage, Eli Drake, Jeff Jarrett

Zorro, who’s been in AAA since 2000, appears to have quit. He hasn’t directly confirmed it, but posted an inspirational message on Instagram hinting at it and RT-ed people asking him about this lineup. Zorro’s currently not booked on anything with AAA except for the March TV in Tlaxaca (where Scoria could easily replace him), so they may have known this was a possibility. Adictos el Deportes mentioned he was outside of AAA contract and working on a new one earlier this week. Guess they didn’t get the deal done.

Zorro’s one of the luchadors most associated with AAA, but he actually got his national start under that name in Promo Azteca, just before Konnan started there. He’s also had a stint in CMLL, and used the Zorro name before he came to AAA. It’s also, of course, a character created in 1919 that exists in many other forms besides a profesional luchador. AAA did register “EL ZORRO (EL PROFETA)” way back in 2011, but I don’t think they’d be able to actually stop him from using the name, assuming they could stop anyone from using any name.

Jeff Jarrett isn’t the only guy from TNA, with Eli Drake (as seen in past Lucha World Cups) joining him. Random Trivia: Drake was in Todos x el Todos doing the same Border Patrol sort of gimmick he’ll be doing here, but got a WWE developmental deal. They replaced him in the trio with Brian Cage, in his first Mexico City appearance. That match probably won’t be great but will get good heat.

Blue Demon Jr. did an interview where he says he doesn’t plan on retiring until he at least reaches 40 years of wrestling. He’s 51 now, so he’d be 59 years old at that point. He’s not much good now, so he’ll be – well, whatever. They’re remodeling the Blue Demon store near Arena Mexico and he was signing autographs there last night.

The semimain looks awesome and would sell the show on iPPV alone. Opener should be good. Rancho de Texas (barbed wire) is not my thing but they did get the right people for it.

Fenix says he’s going to wrestle under the name REY FENIX, all caps, no accent marks, and he’s getting everything registered. Or maybe REY FENIX (US) and REY FENIX (EURO). Or maybe everyone’s just going to keep calling him Fenix and AAA will just send legal notes but not actually do anything.

Everything Else

CMLL Coliseo tonight has Euforia, Gran Guerrero and Ultimo Guerrero against La Mascara, Pierroth and Rush in a rudos vs rudos main event.

CaraLucha has the Volador vs Fenix first time ever singles match, as well as Templario defending the “CaraLucha The Best” title against Corsario negro Jr., and Rayo Star & Titan vs Black Terry & Toxin in their veterans/youngsters tournament.

Arena Lopez Mateos has a Rey Hechicero & Solar I vs Caifan & Negro Navarro maestros main event

Emperador Azteca didn’t make the CHIKARA show today, but Fly Warrior replaced him. He did well for himself in a four way elimination match, even while being the second guy out.

Los Revolucionarios said Bobby Z’s name will now be Bobby Villa, in honor of Pancho Villa. I thought they were joking around, but it may be an actual name change.

WWS Women’s Champion Keneisha Moon retired on Tuesday’s Arena Aficion. She just started two years ago, and just won their title on January 14th.

Hiromu Takahashi did a Japanese language interview talking about his experiences in Mexico. He says he worked up to 9 matches a week at times, and didn’t really get/like the style until he matched up with Dragon Lee and it clicked.

+LuchaTV has a new edition of Aqui esta Lucha, talking with LA Park among the highlights.

LuchaWorld has the latest edition of the podcast.


CMLL (FRI) 02/10/2017 Arena México
1) Astral & Príncipe Diamante vs Cancerbero & Raziel
2) Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
3) Atlantis, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs La Máscara, Ripper, Rush
4) Carístico & Mephisto vs Cavernario & Volador Jr. and Kráneo & Marco Corleone and Diamante Azul & Pierroth and Ángel de Oro & Rey Bucanero and Máscara Año 2000 & Máximo Sexy and Puma & Rey Cometa and Blue Panther & Tiger [natl pi, seeding battle royal]
5) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [natl pi, 8f]
6) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [natl pi, 8f]
7) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [natl pi, 8f]
8) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [natl pi, 8f]
9) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [natl pi, quarterfinal]
10) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [natl pi, quarterfinal]
11) ? & ?? vs ??? & ???? [natl pi, semifinal]

The Torneo Increible de Parejas is back! It’s probably still going to be full of five minutes matches with at least 25% of the partners betraying each other in terrible action. This week will be especially bad because everything is about that Azul & Pierroth team. (Notable, the Panther/Ripper thing seems to have been dropped at the same time that started. Maybe it’ll be back, but I dunno.)  This is good news, only in that I got a ticket for AAW, not sure if I’d be able to use it if CMLL had something worthwhile next Friday. They most definitely will not, it’ll be the second part of this mess. Caristico/Mephisto, Cavernario/Volador, Azul/Pierroth are the teams with actual chances.

Astral makes his CMLL debut by…teaming with the other guy who was just in the minis division who has lost every single match since he’s been moved up. It may be a long road for Astral to get anywhere.

IWRG (WED) 02/08/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Kanon vs Acero
2) Omega vs Adrenalina
3) Diablo Jr. vs Aramis, Araña de Plata, Alfa, Shadow Boy
4) Black Dragón, Chicano, Pantera I vs Hip Hop Man, Violencia Jr., Vortice
5) Dragón Fly vs Demonio Infernal
6) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Demasiado, Diva Salvaje, Miss Gaviota, Nigma

Tortugas Ninjas vs Exoticos. Demonio Infernal gets a big match against the guy who unmasked him. Guessing the other Argentina guys are finishing up this weekend if not on these cards.

Muchas Luchas (SAT) 02/25/2017 Arena Roberto Paz, Guadalajara, Jalisco
1) Black Golden, Implacable, Paymon Dark vs Ivan Drago, La Trakalosa, Nexus Fly
2) Estrella Oriental vs Rey Plata
3) Alex & Demasiado vs Crazy King & Histeria 2.0
4) Brian Villa & Willy Banderas vs Joker & Sádico
5) Rayman vs Gallo
6) Makabre vs Black Terry

Guadalajara’s super indie returns with come Jalisco vs CMLL matches. (The main event is one too, if you think of Arena Coliseo Tag Champ Black Terry as a CMLL guy for the moment.)


CMLL on 2017-02-03 

Dragon Rojo blasts his hat off

Recapped: 02/03/2017

What happened: a Los Ingobernables continues to feud with Diamante Azul, only this time Azul abandoned his mask to foul Pierroth and get the win. The Revolucionarios won again as a team, continuing their win streak since adding Bobby Z (who was joked to be Bobby Villa on the night.) My internet went out a couple times and I missed portions of the show.

What was good: Titan/Cavernario was really good and what I saw of the the Revolucionarios trios was pretty good. The main was bad.

Where can I watch it: The matches I have complete will be on my Twitter feed and I’ll track down the other ones elsewhere. (more…)

CMLL Martes: 2017-01-24

Adonis barely stays in one piece going out, so Maya mows him over

Recapped: 01/25/2017

What happened: Rey Bucanero and Stuka’s names got pulled out of the hat, so now they’re feuding. Rey seemed to be trying, but not enough for me to want to watch the build up trios match.

What was good: The fourth and fifth matches were good, though maybe I’ve subliminal put Tuesday matches on a curve now. The second match was an abomination.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel. (more…)

LU/Netflix, AAA/trademarks, CMLL (actual lucha libre matches), Lucha Memes VOD

CMLL tonight

How’s your week going? Here’s how Diamante Azul’s last couple have gone

01/22 (Sunday): Pierroth fouls Diamante Azul
01/23 (Monday): nothing happens to Diamante Azul (because Marco gets fouled instead)
01/27 (Friday): Pierroth unmasks Diamante Azul
01/29 (Sunday): nothing happens to Diamante Azul (because Caristico gets fouled instead)
01/30 (Monday): Rush fouls Diamante Azul and La Mascara unmasks him
01/31 (Tuesday): Pierroth unmasks Diamante Azul

That’s no good. That’s no good because it’s six straight matches with screwy endings. It’s not good because it’s a lot of matches with Pierroth. It’s not good because CMLL almost never carries feuds over from different days. Every feud is focused on one day of the week, one building, and often painfully ignored if those people meet on different shows. The only times where feuds carry over between shows is when CMLL is running short on time to build a match, and/or it’s supposed to be a big match on a big show. You’ve got to hope it means CMLL’s running a big show this month (maybe Diamante Azul is leaving again soon?), because the alternative is we’re seeing the Homenaje a Dos Leyendas main event being set up. CMLL running a tribute to one of their best matches by running one of their worst possible main events would be no good.

That’s the future. Tonight, it’s just more Diamante Azul versus Ingobernables trios. La Mascara, Pierroth and Rush take on Atlantis, Diamante Azul & Volador in a match which seems certain to end with a DQ or a foul. Mascara 2000 bounces back to the top of the card, as he teams with Cuatrero and Sanson against Angel del Oro, Marco Corleone and Maximo. The best match on the show will probably be the Titan versus Cavernario, a former welterweight feud reunited for one night. Los Revolucionarios team up again against Drone, Guerreor Maya Jr. and Rey Cometa in another match that should be good. Fuego, Pegasso and Soberano Jr. (back home in the second match) against Disturbio, Okumura and Virus. Electrico looks for another partner in Shockercito against Pequeno Nitro & Pequeno Olimpico in the opener.

The show airs at 8:30pm CT on Claro.

Lucha Memes VOD is up!

It ended going up yesterday afternoon for $3 USD. If your country is showing up blocked, tweet @maslucha and they may be able to fix it. The two matches being offered are Raymond Rowe/Rush and the Jack Evans/Rey Horuz atomicos. Early review are really positive about that 4v4 match and all over the place on Rowe/Rush. One of these days, when it’s less insane, we probably need to sit down and have a conversation about where Rush is in 2017, but it sounds like the crazy spotfest match may be worth the price of the purchase by itself.

Unlike the CMLL shows, this is a purchase and not a rental, so you’ll have as long you want to watch it and you’ll be able to go back to it later. This is good news for absolute fools who’ve been spending the last few days on Netflix and trademarks and not even on actually watching the wrestling (or even the Blue Demon telenovela.)

AAA/LU/Rebelion trademarks

The trademark situation is still weird. The former Pentagon Jr. clarified last night that his new name should be spelled “Penta Zero M“. That’s very slight different than “Penta 0m”, the name AAA trademarked in Mexico. Different enough to count? I don’t know, I’m not a lawyer. Penta Zero M also said his name registered. It’s still not on Mexico’s IMPI trademark system. It could be in the Induator author rights system, which has a section set up specifically for wrestlers. That database doesn’t appear to be searchabale online, or at least can’t find a way to search it after hours of looking. And I have no idea which one takes precedent- can Penta Zero M work under that name, but not market t-shirts under it since AAA has the trademark? I don’t know, I’m still not a lawyer.

Pro Wrestling Sheet found that Penta 0M had also been trademarked in the US. I was checking on this morning and noticed there’s also one for Rey Fenix, filed just this Monday. Of note, it’s not AAA itself who’s filed trademarked it, but Lucha Libre FMV, the Lucha Underground parent company. All of the AAA trademarks have been filed that way, so it may just be operating as a US shell for AAA, but it still puts Lucha Underground in the middle of this name issue. Lucha Libre FMV has already held the rights to “Pentagon Jr.” and “Fenix”, but has never stopped them from using those names on indie shows, while LU created characters like Prince Puma and King Cuerno haven’t been seen on indie shows. Just like the Mexico trademarks, this looks a nuisance filling where AAA will never directly make any money off those names but the exist solely to antagonize their former luchadors (with perhaps a blue sky goal of forcing them back into AAA, or convincing others not leave.)

Intermission of dumb to entertain me 

I’ve been spending too much time on the Mexico trademark site, but I had reason to go into again for another reason. Everyone’s friend Caristico did an interview where he revealed the awful “Mistico 2.0” plan was actually a secret plan. Liger Fever translated the interview, where Caristico claims he never planned on using the Mistico 2.0 name, but just used it as the introduction to fake AAA into trademarking it while he waited until the actual show to reveal the name he really trademarked.

This is a fantastic story! It’s completely a lie, but it’s a fantastic story. If you go look up “Mistico 2.0” in the trademark search, you’ll find that Caristico did trademark it himself, because he was actually going to use it until he got talked out of it. It was not a fakeout and AAA didn’t try get that one. The Carsitico name wasn’t revealed just before his first match either, but announced it to the press ahead of the show.

Anyway, don’t believe anyone. Which leads us into…

Netflix and Lucha Underground and basic communication skills

Will Lucha Underground be on Netflix on February 15? Court Bauer of MLW, working off info from inside Lucha Underground sources, said Yes. Justin Harvey, of the Masks, Mats and Mayhem Show, working off info from inside Lucha Underground sources, said LU is getting on Netflix, but is still working on getting the shows in Netflix standard and don’t know when they’ll be ready.  Netflix Canada says Yes! Lucha Underground officially says – uh, they say nothing at all.

What do I know? I know I would like to mute the word Netflix on Twitter. That’s not too helpful but it would feel so good.

“Justin Harvey, of the Masks, Mats and Mayhem Show” scans as some random dude with a podcast, one of a five million podcasts in the world, so I’d suspect most people will probably just go with what Court’s saying and be confused why I’m even bringing up another take here. What I can say is I talked to Justin a bit last time I was out at Lucha Underground, where he’s a regular in the crowd, and I saw the people he was talking with, and it gives me confidence that he and the rest of the podcast group are plugged in a bit. Check out a list of the guests they’ve had on their show – the executive producer, the two leader writers of the show among other – or realize they’re dudes appearing in the promos during episodes and it’s clear they’ve got connections. So does Court, and I’d guess they’re just with different people in the same organization who may not be communicating clearly with each other.

Justin was careful to say it’s not definitely 02/15, it’s more they’re not far enough along to know when they’ll get done. Everyone seems to be agreeing that deal to get Netflix on Lucha Underground is done or close to being done, and this is he said/he said argument over timing. Unless it takes some really extended time to get them prepped, they’ll probably be up long before we get to see an actual new episode.

Let’s throw out everything related to Netflix for a sec and focus on the Lucha Underground part a different way.  That banner, with 5.31.17 is still up on the Lucha El Rey Twitter. It’s been their since Wednesday. I assume it’s the date they’re back, because they’ve done the same bit with putting the date on social media every time they come back from a break. I can only assume that, because it’s Friday and there’s still no official press release announcing this. This is Lucha Underground and El Rey’s date – they’re not holding up waiting to sign some papers, they probably already have the next episode ready to air, they just have to announce the decision they’ve already made. And yet, nothing official at all, nothing but some art work that implies everything but doesn’t officially say anything. What in the world?

This is the same thing that’s going on with Netflix but this one’s totally in their control. They could’ve already confirmed announced this date that same day, that same hour, thru the Lucha Underground main Twitter account, or thru Dario’s account or thru someone one staff’s account or thru El Rey’s twitter account or Facebook or Instagram or YouTube or a generic press release on some page. They’ve done none of it. It’s not that hard to do, it’s probably easier than creating art work with a date on it. It would’ve been a really good thing to do! It’s still not done. Just like with Netflix, that date is going to come (whether it’s 05/31 or some other day) and the show is going to be on. That’s not the point. The point is it’s another missed chance to promotion your TV show, it’s a half effort bit where the full thing needs to be communicated.

Justin made a really good point about how we probably shouldn’t be getting our LU news from a guy on a podcast that may not have anything to do with Lucha Underground. The problem was Justin was, in that moment, a guy on a podcast giving us news about Lucha Underground. Why am I getting all my news about Lucha Underground thru podcasts? I’ve been hammering at this for months, Lucha Underground’s communication is insufficient to build their promotion. They can’t just appear one a week on Twitter to write a couple tweets and disappear for the rest of time and hope to (re)build buzz that way. They’re not going to sell t-shirts by mentioning it once a week in a 10 second advert for a show. There needs to be a more constant presence out there to keep people paying attention, and to channel that energy in a helpful direction. They’ve got to get better at this, and quick.

more unlikely CMLL wrestlers to ROH 

Ring of Honor announced Marcela and Amapola will debut in their promotion on their 04/01 Orlando show on Saturday. This was so weird that the first reaction was this was a fake poster. It is not. Their match is not announced. A tag or trios match with some of the ROH’s regular women (as part of their Women of Honor division) seems most likely

As a fan of this women for a long time, I’m happy they’re getting a trip to Orlando. They more than earned it, especially from when CMLL relaunched their women’s division until about 2013 or 14 or so when they were both in the argument for best female wrestler in the wrold. They’re not really those ladies any more, time catches up to us all. They’re still among the best CMLL women has to offer, so if it was just Ring of Honor wanted some Mexican women, they could’ve done worse. (They could’ve done better. Zeuxis is so obviously the right pick and has been suggested to ROH enough times that it glaring she wasn’t selected, like there must be some other reason we’re not privy to right now.)

It’s just strange that ROH wants CMLL women on their card for a big show. There’s a lot of guys who would’ve made a bigger impression, and names that might have sold tickets better. The ROH press release is transparently someone grabbing facts from wikipedia, written as if the person has never seen these two women in their life. That’ll also likely be true of most the people in the crowd that day. All unknown people are going to have an uphill battle getting over in front of a ROH crowd in 2017. The ROH crowd generally didn’t know who Dragon Lee was when he was he debuted. Even figuring the WrestleMania crowd will draw in more hardcore fans, there still will be very few people who know or care about these women being in this match unless ROH does a great job of hyping them (which they haven’t with anyone else.) This seems like a waste of two plane tickets for ROH – but, come to think of it, I don’t really care how ROH uses their money, so hooray, free trips to two women who killed it for years and are being recognized much later than they should’ve been.

ROH has other issues and this is not really a big one. Still weird, like everything with CMLL & ROH. Still happy for them.

upcoming shows

Sexy Star and Taya face off on 02/11 in New York.

Flamita is headed back to Dragon Gate in March.

Lucha Memes 02/19 in Coliseo Coacalco
1: Totem I & II vs Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako 
2: Ronnie Mendoza vs Hechicero
3: Diva Salvaje & Demasiado vs Baby Star & Black Metal

Penta is OFF the 03/04 show for Smash Wrestling in Toronto.

RIOT 03/04 in Arena LLF in Monterrey with “Show Me The Money”
1: Sammy Guevara vs Jack Evans
2: Dulce Kanela vs Larry Miranda
3: Los Kamikazes del Aire (Aramis, Iron Boy, Alas de Acero) vs Los Mismos de Siempre (Kamikzae, Kratoz, Erik Ortiz)
4: Los UnMexicans (Kaientai & Byron) vs Tony Rodriguez & TBA 
5: Low Rider vs Septimo Dragon

GALLI announced Aero Boy coming back on 03/12 and Penta el Zero M on 06/04.

Many familiar luchadors, including what looks to be Extreme Tiger, Fenix, Aeroboy, Violento Jack and Rey Horuz, are heedad to Puerto Rico on 03/18. Lluvia’s pictured, which is notable. She hasn’t been in CMLL since November 25. She’s battle knee problems (losing most of 2012 and 2013 due to them), so maybe that’s what’s going on and she’ll back around in March.

Rey Fenix is announced CZW’s 04/01 Battle of the Best tournament in the Orlando area.

Other Stuff

Blue Demon Jr. refused to talk about the TV series when asked about it.It could be a situation where he’s not legally allowed to say anything negative about it due to the name rights, so he’s just refusing to talk about it. In his own life, he hopes to make another move and write an autobiography, and won’t be back in the ring until the February Crash show.

The latest Fuego en el Ring podcast is up.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-01-23 

Espiritu splash to the floor

Recapped: 01/24/2017

What happened: Valiente wore a shirt and pants. Times have changed! Also La Mascara gave Marco a lame looking foul to start a feud.

What was good: Nothing. I wanted to like the tercera but it never quite got there. The first three matches all dragged. I had been warned off the top matches.

I don’t think there’s a lot to get out of TGR or Mascara 2000 matches unless they’re surrounded by a lot of motivated and interesting. I’m going to try to do better at skipping matches which don’t warrant a review. My time is better served elsewhere.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel (more…)

lucha TV preview for weekend of February 3rd

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This is a two episode IWRG week! I’ll probably miss one of them somehow.

AAA will finish up Guerra de Titanes, which probably means tag matches and not those singles matches. Unless they can edit out all of Garza’s offense from his match with Fantasma, I guess. It would be cool to see them go over the top with it.

Lucha Retro is two hours early this week, but probably still a repeat. I’m giving it two more weeks.

Elite should be interesting. In real time, they aired reruns a week before switching over the all-indie, no-CMLL shows. They could skip around randomly.


2005 Coahuila/Durango lineups added to the luchadb

Last week, I added another year set of 2005 lineups I could find from El Siglo de Torreon. I had a handful of these in there already, and added about ~250 more. I’ve added the info to the wiki where possible. I now have more lineups for Arena Olimpico Laguna, a venue that doesn’t get talked about outside of it’s local area, than UWA/CMLL stronghold Arena Puebla. (An accessible Puebla newspaper archive would be helpful to fix this.)

Those lineups are in the luchadb. I haven’t done the export this time because lack of interest, but I can whip one up if people want them in a different format than I have here. You can use the data however you want, though I’d appreciate you giving me and any sources credit when possible.

I’m also playing with an idea of doing some more through caching of the database, which might speed up the match finder and other processes. If things are working weird, I may get around to fixing it. Who’s to say?

In addition the results, I’ve got the usual links to articles that caught my interest below the fold. Remember, these are all 2006 stories, not current ones.


AAA files for ex-AAA trademarks, attempts to edit Daga out from TV

IWRG (WED) 02/01/2017 Arena Naucalpan [Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Atomic Star & Enigma b Fireman & Geo
Fireman replaced Fly Star. First match for Geo & Enigma in summer.
2) Araña de Plata & Keiser Dragón b Odín & Shadow Boy
Shadow Boy’s partner is an unnamed novato
3) Alfa, Aramis, Omega DQ Adrenalina, Avisman, Diablo Jr.
Diablo Jr. fouled Aramis. Avisman’s first match here since last August.
4) Hip Hop Man, Mosca (Argentina), Pibe Alfajor b Black Dragón, Dragón Fly, Pantera I
Mosca sneaked in a foul on Dragon Fly. Pantera I replaced Freelance.
5) Chicano, Hijo del Alebrije, Imposible b Cerebro Negro, Demonio Infernal, Eterno
Eterno replaced Relampago (injury), which allowed him to feud with Demonio Infernal. Eterno cheated to beat Demonio Infernal.

The Gladiatores will probably have the mystery novato’s name. Edit: they did! Eterno seems back to give previous novato Demonio Infernal a big feud, which is a better way of using veterans than usual. They have a singles match on Sunday

There’s not much news except AAA news. It’s not positive news! You may want to skip if that’s now if you don’t want negative stuff.

Last Tuesday, the same day as the Psycho/Wagner press conference at Arena Ciudad de Mexico, AAA filed trademarks on the names “PENTA 0M” and “FÉNIX EL REY”. They’ve previously trademarked “CERO MIEDO”, “FÉNIX EL REY” and “REY FÉNIX”, as well as the original Fenix and Pentagon Jr. names. (The name “Penta El 0M” name is not trademarked. It’s hard to link directly to this, but you can go here and punch in those names; make sure to include accents.) The lawyer at that press conference was an intellectual property lawyer, which was a pretty good clue of what else AAA was up to that day, and another lawyer from that firm has their name on the trademark applications. These trademarks are not listed as approved, just as “nominated” (requested), so it’s possible they can be fought or rejected. If approved, AAA could force those guys to stop using those names, but the process usually takes a long time and all AAA can do is make threats at the moment.

This does not surprise me at all, this is simply what AAA does when someone leaves and they’re angry about it. It seems like poor behavior – trying to own the names they used in AAA seems fair enough, trying to own new deriviations is murky at best and probably meant more to be a nuisance than any legal standpoint. The bigger surprise is there’s not applications filed by Penta El 0M, Fenix el Rey and/or their representatives. This is AAA’s move, this is always AAA’s move, and so I would’ve guessed the Rebelion guys would’ve been ready for it. I’m not a trademark lawyer and I’m definitely not a Mexican trademark lawyer, please do not use me as advice on what to do.

La Rebelión is not trademarked. Garza Jr. trademarked his own name. Daga’s name is curiously not trademarked; he used it before AAA, but that hasn’t stopped AAA from at least attempting to trademark for others. There are no trademarks currently listed in the US for those names, though that may be in progress.

I caught up with AAA TV last night. A recap will turn up someday, but the one thing you need to know is there’s little chance Pentagon/Mundo or Fantasma/Garza will ever be aired. They aired the cage match as this week’s main event, with some video and audio edits. Daga is listed in the match lineup screen, but the bit where he added himself to the match is edited out completely. Later, when Daga is escaping the cage, they briefly cut to a shot of Angelico walking to the back while Jesus Zuñiga talks about Angelico instead of Daga escaping. It’s so bad that it seems like it might be a normal AAA production error, but the audio definitely is not. AAA’s commentary is generally done live at the shows, but the next couple of minutes are all Jesus Zuñiga doing new audio from a studio, doing his best not to acknowledge Daga as he tries to stop Australian Suicide from interfering. This is all kind of mitigated by Arturo Rivera marking out for Daga early on and screaming “Daga” loudly a few times, but they tried with the rest. AAA clearly are very upset about this situation.

It’ll be much easier just not to air the matches with the other two guys, and just only the opening mixed tag and the semimain trios match with Wagner & Psycho this week. I’m hoping we get a classic match and not just the same half hour Wagner/Psycho stuff from this past week as filler, though I imagine that’ll be it. Both Mundo/Pentagon and Garza/Fantasma have fan cams on YouTube if you really want to see them.

You won’t be seeing Drago in New York, at least on the Tier 1 Wrestling show on 02/19. He will now be replaced by both Matt Cross and Rey Horuz, which should still be good. It’s not said why Drago is off the show. I don’t see him on an AAA show in Mexico right now, though there’s enough shuffling that it’s possible. Drago (and probably AAA) would seem to make more off US bookings right now than Mexico ones. It’s possible, though not confirmed, that AAA is forcing promoters to pick between their guys and La Rebelion wrestlers since Pentagon is also booked for that show. I guess we find out if that happens with other shows.

02/18 in Tijuana has a main event is Texano & Joe Lider vs Dr. Wagner & Pagano vs Monster & Murder Clown. Taya is in the semimain; it would be her first non-TV AAA show since about August, since she relocated to the US. Tijuana is an easier trip from LA than, like, San Luis Potosi would be so maybe that’s it.

WXW announced Pentagon, Vampiro (not wrestling?), Drago, Angelico, and Fenix for their 03/13 show.

Pentagon Jr. faces Davey Richards on 04/07 in Seattle. That one made me think of Arturo Rivera saying those guys would be out of work in a month and a half. April is a lot farther away than a month in a half!

Roshfrans is teasing a surprise deal with AAA & Record. It might have with all those photos they were shooting a while back. It also could be something to do with a national talent search Leo Riano mentions in his column. AAA could definitely use some new people, but they could really more use it in the middle and the top, and past talent searches usually have only added people at the bottom. It’s another thing if it’s just supposed to be part of a marketing campaign.

Shocker broke his jaw. He must’ve broke it over the weekend, and is out of action for the time being.

Lucha Memes has been announcing matches for their 02/19 Coacalco show.

They’ve also mentioned two title matches will take place on the show.

Daniel Tibbets, GM of El Rey, was on a panel of niche (or small) networks, talking about how they can remain viable in cable when money is starting to shift elsewhere. Tibbets is quoted as saying you can find other revenue streams as long as you have a “engaged, niche audience.” Judging from the many tweets asking Netflix UK, Netflix Latin America and other Netflix affiliates about Lucha Underground, they may have that.

There’s still no official news from Lucha Underground about Netflix or anything else. Netflix Canada confirmed they’d have the show on the 15th and people who work for LU say it’s coming on the 02/15, but there’s no press release about it or the return date. There really should’ve been one already, but maybe they’re got a lot of things getting done at the same time. Season 2 (and only Season 2) of the series is on Amazon US right now. It’s in the same style as iTunes, not an addition to their own Netflix like service. I looked around at other similar services and didn’t see anything.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report . Alfredo was also on the latest edition of The Winter Palace.

Mas Por Mas has another series of quick interviews with people who work in Arena Mexico. Bobby Z mentions he was training with Santos Laguneros but preferred lucha.