Something listed as “Lucha Libre” has been airing irreguarlly on TDN (MexicO) the last couple of weeks. No one’s talked about it and I haven’t figured out what it it, but it’s also airing at 3AM a lot so I don’t want anyone to make any effort to watch it and have it turn out to be a cut down version of the AAA show or something. (Attempts to capture it via stream haven’t worked, but AAA is most likely since they’re partnered with UTDN.) If you know anything, feel free to share.
As noted previously, it’s likely Puebla is done on TVC Deportes. Noches de Coliseo is due back with new episodes at some point.
The Lucha Libre Boom show aired previously on AYM. It was listed under IWRG’s program information, and it may pop up again.
== AAA ==
Maybe back to normal and Tuxtla Guiterrez part 1? If I keep guessing this, it’ll be right.
== Lucha Underground ==
Back. You’ll be shocked to find out the name of the episode is Aztec Warfare, a 20 man timed elimination match to determine the champion. If you don’t know, spoilers have long been out on the winner, so maybe don’t look around too much if you want to stay surprised
== CMLL ==
FOX2: Shifts to 11AM this week. Welterweight Cibernetico, which could be great, should air here.
Azteca: Decent chance Bárbaro Cavernario vs Dragón Rojo Jr. airs here even though it didn’t on Fox, as they’ve done it in the past. Bucanero/Volador feud either way.
52MX: Mascara, Dorada, Valiente vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Thunder, w/ Cavernario/Zavala/Aguila vs Panther/Panther/Titan as the semimain.
Claro: Felino/Niebla/Thunder vs Dorada/Valiente/Volador Jr.
C3: final build to double mask match, Volador/Bucanero in the main
== IWRG ==
IWRG (LAS/AYM): New Years Day show with Ninja Turtles
AAA Caralucha (THU) 01/01/2015Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [Black Terry Jr. (flickr), Estrellas del Ring, LLNEI, TerceraCaida]
1) Arceus & Rey Lobo Jr. b Anubis Black & Stripper Rey Lobo Jr. is a new name for Arkanos
2) Kilvan & Yoruba b Andy Boy & Danger Danger is sometimes listed as Danger King (but isn’t the CMLL guy either way.) Money thrown in.
3) Carta Brava Jr., Drago, Súper Fly b Fly Star, Guerrero Mixtico, Rayo Star Super Fly wrestled unmasked. AAA vs Indy match
4) Fénix, Hijo del Fantasma, Pentagón Jr. b Flamita, Hijo del Fishman, Sky Man Great match. Another AAA vs indy match. Flamita and Fenix had issues, maybe beyond storyline. Flamita’s partners (including the returning Skyman) were also said to be terrible, yet the match still got money thrown in.
5) Súper Nova & Texano Jr. DQ Trauma I & Trauma II Super Nova bled a lot. Traumas wanted a double apuesta match.
6) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown NC Broken Clown, Dave The Clown, Rothen Clown Unclear if there was a winner; Psycho had Dave beat when Fantasma, Texano and Pentagon ran in to attack the Circus. Clown Corp were sort of okay with it, but also threw out three masks vs three masks challenges to the Circus.
BT JR. called the fourth “the best match ever”, so that sounds OK. All the AAA teams beat the indy teams (or at least had them beat.)
IWRG (THU) 01/01/2015Arena Naucalpan [IWRG] ***IWRG 18th Anniversary***
1) Freyser & Hip Hop Man b Alfa & Sky Ángel Freyser, seen last week on an ex-IWRG team, returned here to replace Arana de Plata. Straight fall win for the rudos.
2) Douki, Imposible, Tony Rivera b Diva Salvaje, Estrella Divina, Miss Gaviota
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo b Apolo Estrada Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Liderk, Oficial AK47
4) Chicano, Danny Casas, Hijo de Máscara Año 2000 b Canis Lupus, Eterno, X-Fly straight fall win for the Chicano team. Recap teases Canis/Eterno vs Chicano/Danny.
5) Hijo De Dos Caras, Máscara Sagrada, Pantera I b Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Monsther, Pirata Morgan Monsther (II?) replaced Pirata Morgan Jr. Tecnicos took 2/3, with Sagrada sneaking in a revenge foul on Pirata. That’s the feud, but Sagrada also asked for a trios title match with this team vs the Piratas.
Last week’s show, with the promising tag team tournament, never made TV. I believe this one has already started to air.
PWInsider reported on a list of new Lucha Underground trademark names. (The site also forwarded me to a webpage which tried to download a hijack version of Adobe Flash, so be cautious if you use the link; the list is on the US Trademark site if you look around) There was a line in the first Prince Puma intro video about him being from one of seven tribes and that was meant to be a plot point. It may be a plot point that was dropped (like Cueto buying the guys from AAA), but the original idea was to introduce people from those six other tribes and more. The people behind this spent the time leading up to the start coming up with a lot of character sketches along the lines of Puma than have been seen (though Cuerno was definitely another one of them.) I would suggest not to read much into them, because it may just be a case of locking up names they might use, not that they will.
I’d also point to the recent issues with the Young Bucks as a sign that Lucha Underground may still be in process of signing new people to fill these roles, but obviously the roles are coming before the people if they’ve already done the trademarks and just now are sending out contracts. This is not taking a guy and figuring out a gimmick, but (mostly) writing a character and casting someone for it.
Interesting to note that while many of the Lucha Underground exclusive characters have been trademarked, the AAA gimmicks (Drago, Fenix, Pentagon Jr., Pimpinela, Mascarita Sagrada, Sexy Star) have not been. Also, we all learned how “Beal” is supposed to be spelled, so that’s a win.
The Wrestling Observer Newsletter had two AAA notes (that weren’t quite in the AAA section):
GFW/Jarrett will broadcast TripleMania in the US if this weekend’s NJPW show goes well (closer to 10K buys than 5K)
AAA wants Jim Ross as an English announcer for it’s iPPVs; Lucha Underground wants Jim Ross as the lead announcer for it’s shows starting this month.
I haven’t been around much the last few days – you may have noticed – but I was kind of surprised more people haven’t thought about that last one. Jim Ross is broadcasting with Matt Striker on the NJPW show. Lucha Underground wants to replace Striker with Jim Ross. Awkward. I’d assume it actually means Striker moves one chair over, making the English announce team JR & Striker and the Spanish Hugo & Vamp. It’s hard to figure how LU could afford JR while giving the Young Bucks a low ball offer, but as seen with other possible deals (Alberto), they have one rate for stars and one rate for everyone else and the Young Bucks are (somewhat surprisingly) in the everyone else category. It should definitely be noted that, at least as it comes off in the newsletter, Meltzer expects WWE to make Jim Ross an offer good enough to keep him from working for competing promotions, and it’s possible nothing comes from this.
Lucha Underground is still pretty to catch up on: the entire history is about 8 episodes, 12 by the time the next tapings start. AAA & TripleMania’s going to be tougher to do. It’s a lot different than NJPW or WWE, and there’s not as many people who are that knowledgeable about it to bring people up to speed. You can’t really go to Dave Meltzer or John Pollock on that one – people may follow the big shows but you have to go to places like this for the thorough AAA news. And as this last week has shown, I’m a half-intelligible goofball so this entire enterprise would rest on RobViper’s shoulders. (I guess Konnan counts, but for all Konnan’s good points, “remembering past storylines” is not one of them. I’ve heard Dr. Lucha is retired so no go there.) Not knowing the product was a definite problem last year, one AAA supposedly didn’t help much with, and I’d hate to see it happen again. I’m sure Ross would work on very hard, it’s just much harder to get the source material.
(Thank you for your support, by the way. I don’t think anyone quite got what I was saying but people saying they appreciate the effort is always appreciated. I’ve rewritten the post five times in my head.)
The great difference in the two products is also a reason why it’s so odd they’re being tied together for GFW’s purposes. I can sort of see it as “if one niche product fails, maybe it’s not worth trying others”, but there’s very little cross over between those two audiences. NJPW is 100x more popular among the online diehard wrestling fan base, but AAA should appeal to a more casual fan base and they already have US TV (Lucha Underground) to at least run advertisements for the show: there’s decent reason to believe TripleMania might actually do better than AAA.
It’s also random and weird. If you were going to buy the NJPW PPV, I’d say great and go do it, but I wouldn’t go out of your way to just to inflate the numbers for TripleMania being on in the US – too many things can happen. (Also, you’d be voting with your dollars for a Jeff Jarrett TripleMania match, think about it.)
Your entire Friday night preview, hidden down where no one will find it: Mascara Dorada’s beating Negro Casas for the title. The card update for next Friday is interesting – will the FantasticaMania guys be gone? Will Mistico get in his one match before heading to Japan?
CMLL Informa did air on New Year’s Eve, in onetwothreefourfive parts covering the end of the year. Even if they wanted to put out Titan/Cavernario after the fact, they’d have to find a way to split in half to actually upload it. Most views is about 1200 on the last one.
Los Colisenos examines lucha libre while repeatedly declaring it’s been dead for 8 years (so it was dead in 2007?) and concluding that the current form of lucha libre will never be successful. The talking point, in those articles as always, that adding recent major events is a determent to all the other shows, seems less and less valid the more I look thru older results. EMLL was building to major events going for decades before they came up with names; it was just “the last show before it heads back to Arena Coliseo for a while” instead of “Sin Piedad”. I like to think the fans figured it out without needing the branding. (The problem isn’t those 4 shows, it’s the other 152.)
only a couple of items today due to time constraints; maybe no links until Saturday.
Jose Manuel Guillen announced Tercera Caida has left TVC Deportes. The last episode was on the 17th, they usually run special shows around this time but instead they’re just done after nine and a half years. You can hear JMG talk about in the YouTube link, but they’ll be continuing on with the +LuchaTV YouTube channel project as a group and he’s moving onto a new job, and they hope to be able to bring the show back on a different network. (I don’t know how it works in Mexico, but JMG and Bernardo were the ones who came up with the show name and concept, so it’s possible it can just land complete on a different network.)
This was a sudden announcement, but it did not seem to be a total surprise to the people involved with Tercera Caida. JMG hinted back at this when we had him on the podcast back in September. Just generally, his level of optimism with TVC Deportes changed quite a bit from when we talked him in 2013 and 2014. TVC Deportes itself is going thru some hard times – they lost the cable rights to WWE Raw, and they were taken off cable/satellite systems. At the time, articles were predicting doom for the network, and now it sounds like they’re shifting more onto football/soccer to try to fight off that doom. Tercera Caida was still good, and the network might have still thought it was good, but it was a causality of other events.
Tercera Caida was one of the best parts of lucha libre. I hope they’ll be back soon, and they’ll be missed until they do get back. There’s really nothing on their in lucha libre – in wrestling in general – that can replace them. I also think a great wrestling show and quality wrestling programming in general would be a good addition to any cable network looking to draw in a new group of eyeballs, and hope someone figures that out quick.
I would assume, but I’m not certain, this is also why CMLL’s Puebla TV has disappeared from TVC Deportes. Guillen been the lead announcer on that show, though his cohost changed 3 times in 2014 after Bernardo left. CMLL’s shifted those Puebla matches onto other networks when they’ve lost the TVC Deportes deal in the past. Not sure if they will again.
The Young Bucks sent out a series of Twitter messages on Tuesday, feeling disrespected with a contract offer sent to them (much less than they can get elsewhere.) They narrowed the list of companies who sent it, and then turned into a joke when they narrowed it down a little bit too far. The bad contract figured to be Lucha Underground based on the clues and the Wrestling Observer Newsletter confirmed that to be the case. It reads as if it’s the same seven year low money offer given to people back in the fall.
I’m not thrilled that a) no Young Bucks on the show and b) this is the exact same cycle as happened before the first tapings (wrestling LU people promise things to indy guys, other LU people send bad contract, indy guys are offended and make sure every one knows) and it appears no one’s learned anything and we all get to go thru it again. At least it should be a shorter list this time.
CMLL (TUE) 12/30/2014Arena México [CMLL, Notimex]
1) Acero & Fantasy b Mercurio & Pequeño Universo 2000
2) Sensei, Soberano Jr., Star Jr. b Cholo, Inquisidor, Ramstein straight falls. Star Jr. & Soberano again demanded a mask match, and Cholo & Ramstein agreed this time.
3) Hombre Bala Jr., Stigma, Súper Halcón Jr. b Arkángel de la Muerte, Hijo del Signo, Nitro
4) Sangre Azteca b Pegasso [lightning] Sangre submitted Pegasso in 7:22.
5) Blue Panther Jr., La Máscara, Super Porky b Morphosis, Niebla Roja, Olímpico Tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Máximo, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Felino, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero Tecnicos took 1/3, Volador sneaking in a foul on Rey Bucanero. Volador said they all forgot Volador knows how to be a rudo too, and he wants that hair match. Bucanero declined.
More Volador/Bucanero in the main event, but it’s going somewhere.
CMLL recap doesn’t list the opener, calls Morphosis “Histeria.”
No known shows anywhere due to New Year’s Eve. That makes some sense for Christmas, but it does feel like the night for a crazy hardcore show (with the ring blowing up at midnight, that sounds like something they’ve actually done in Japan.) There’s a monsoon of shows tomorrow.
I missed this from a week ago, but El Hijo del Santo said Todo x el Todo will return and is interested in hiring Octagon, but believes signing Alberto or Myzteziz would not be viable. No dates or locations were specified. Santo also ‘reveals’ he and the late Jose Sulaiman were planning on creating a national commission for lucha libre, to combat issues like Silver King putting his mask back on and Konnan Big’s continued existence.
CMLL (TUE) 01/06/2015Arena México
1) Magnus & Starman vs Apocalipsis & Inquisidor
2) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit vs Dalys, La Comandante, La Seductora
3) Astral vs Eléctrico, Fantasy, Último Dragoncito, Shockercito, Demus 3:16, Pierrothito, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Nitro, Mercurio [Pequeno Reyes del Aire]
4) Soberano Jr. & Star Jr. vs Cholo & Ramstein [mask]
5) Dragón Rojo Jr., La Máscara, Marco Corleone vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
6) Volador Jr. vs Rey Bucanero
Instead of doing main events on Friday and Sunday, they’ve moved them all to Tuesday. Volador and Rey Bucanero have their singles match and the Pequeno Reyesl del Aire takes place. It’s a pretty packed show.
No Stukita this year, but a good group of rudos. Nitro & Mercurio are the best secret tag team of 2014.
recent January apuesta matches
2014: none (they did an undercard Copa Junior instead)
2013: Bobby Zavala & Disturbio b Leono & Tigre Blanco – end of Tigre Blanco in CMLL
2012: Hombre Bala Jr. & Super Halcon b Rayo Tapatio I & Rayo Tapatio II – end of Rayo Tapatios in CMLL
Ramstein and Cholo aren’t just underdogs, this could also be the end of one or both of their CMLL careers.
Not to run this bit into the ground but: the kid’s focused Three Kings Day would’ve be a great time for Mistico to return. Mistico is still not back. Mistico’s said to be wrestling in Osaka a week from this show, but I dunno. We’ll know in a few days.
CMLL (TUE) 01/06/2015Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Virgo vs Évola
2) Esfinge & Metatrón vs Exterminador & Maléfico
3) Fuego, Stuka Jr., Super Porky vs Hombre sin Nombre, Kráneo, Olímpico
4) Dragon Lee, Máscara Dorada, Rey Cometa, Titán, Tritón vs Demonio Maya, Ephesto, Mephisto, Mr. Águila, Pierroth [cibernetico]
5) Atlantis, Máximo, Valiente vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla
Maximo and Valiente are not going to FantasticaMania because he’s too busy main eventing every single day. Really fun tecnicio side for the random cibernetico, maybe not so much on the rudo side.