tonight: CMLL Universal tournament, AAA in Tlahuelilpan, Elite?


Tonight is the first part of CMLL’s annual Universal tournament, a 16 man three week tournament with every champion in CMLL (or at least that’s the idea.) This is the latest CMLL’s run this tournament:

Final Date/Winner
2009.06.19: Ultimo Guerrero
2010.08.13: Jushin Lyger
2011.09.16: La Sombra
2012.08.31: Terrible
2013.09.07: Hiroshi Tanahashi
2014.08.29: Ultimo Guerrero [2]
2015.10.16: Atlantis
2016.10.28: ?????

The 2012 & 2014 tournaments were used to spotlight one of the competitors who would be on the Anniversaro show a few weeks later. It’s possible that might have been the idea this year, but Dragon Lee’s injury derailed it. There hasn’t been a title change since La Mascara won the CMLL Light Heavyweight championship, which set the field but came right before Dragon Lee got hurt again.

The other tournament winners are more normal CMLL tournament winners, where it’s mentioned for a few weeks and moved on from there. Ultimo Guerrero won the first to build credibility for the tournament, Lyger & Tanahashi were part of the NJPW/CMLL tie-in (and went nowhere), Sombra won to make a statement that he was now the guy, and Atlantis winning was just finding another way to do a Ultimo Guerrero/Atlantis feud.

There’s no Anniversary connection and there’s no obvious final in this year’s field. Tonight’s block has Mistico, Último Guerrero, Negro Casas, Máximo Sexy, Valiente, Rey Cometa, Mephisto, and Shocker. (Dragon Lee and La Mascara are both in next week’s block, so the idea of an Anniversario rematch as the final is impossible.) Shocker, Rey Cometa and Valiente are unlikely to advance far. Ultimo Guerrero being in the final for the fourth time would be a bit much, but not impossible when it comes to Ultimo Guerrero. Negro Casas is the biggest name who’s never won this tournament, but seems less likely to work three matches at this point. That leaves Mistico, Maximo and Mephisto, none definite favorites. I’ll guess Mephisto, but with zero certainty.

If you’re new to this tournament, this part is important: this tournament is not watchable. CMLL three week single elimination tournaments are typically two weeks of short bad matches and maybe a pretty good match on the end. The block matches, like today, have historically been three to five minutes matches where the loser rushes thru his trademark offense and then gets pinned quickly by the person moving on. They’ve been better at giving the matches more time recently, but they’re still very predictable (watch which guy uses up their spots) and underwhelming.

The rest of the show is not a lot better. The one match you’ll want to see is Mascara Dorada, Guerrero Maya and Dragon Lee taking on Euforia, Gran Guerrero and Niebla Roja in the tercera. It’ll easily be the best of the night. The minis will open Friday night, which seems to happen a lot. Astral & Electrico take on Pequeno Nitro & Pequeno Violencia. Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany and La Vaquerita, Marcela and Princesa Sugehit in the segunda. The semimain, theoretically here to draw fans who wouldn’t be interested otherwise, has the Dinamitas (Cien Caras, Mascara 2000, Universo 2000) versus Marco Corleone, Atlantis and Stuka. The Dinamitas match on 09/16 was the worst match in Arena Mexico this year. This one should be better because they’ve got good people to work with (and people who are specifically strong at getting a lot out of a little), but it’s still going to be a struggle.

CMLL’s preview is here. This Friday night show will air at 8:30pm on ClaroSports. Tonight’s show will also air on NJPWWorld for Japanese viewers.

AAA starts their batch of post-Heroes Inmortales/pre-Guerra de Titanes TV tapings tonight. They’re in the Hidalgo city of Tlahuelilpan, about two hours away from Arena Mexico. This show has Psycho Clown, Texano Jr. and La Parka versus Pagano, Pentagon Jr., Dr. Wagner Jr. in the main event, playing off the Heroes Inmortales match. Pentagon and Texano seem to be used as either a tecnico or rudo depending on the night. A similar thing is happening in the semimain, with Hijo del Fantasma & Garza Jr. versus Brian Cage & El Mesias, where Fantasma seems to switch back and forth.

The third match might be the most interesting match of the night, just to see who’s there. It’s scheduled to be La Parka Negra, Super Fly, and Apache versus Bengala, Argenis and Jack Evans, but Jack Evans status with AAA is uncertain after the reaction to his recent interview. I hope he’s there, but I’m skeptical he’ll be there (and it’d be yet another case where AAA is falsely advertising a wrestler.)

The fourth match is Zorro, Cuervo, Scoria, the current trios champions, versus Averno, Chessman and Ricky Marvin. (AAA posted an interview with Zorro, so vague that he doesn’t mention the opposition by name.) We already know these teams will have a title match in 11/04 Aguascalientes, but they’ll probably still run an angle to set it up of this match. The Apaches will be around to antagonize OGT: Faby Apache & Mary Apache take on La Hiedra & Mamba. The opener has a minis match Octagoncito & Dinastia versus Mini Psycho Clown & Mini Histeria. The minis are always good when they’re used, but they’re used about the same way every time and any idea for them would be neat.

This AAA taping will start airing on 10/22 and continue thru 10/29. There may be the usual fan Periscopes.

ELITE – I’m not quite sure what Elite is doing. On Twitter Wednesday, they said to keep an eye out for news about their return to Mexico City soon. They have no taping today, which leads to guessing there’s some secret show going on today that will be announced later today. (And they may be keeping secret to avoid detection from the commission.) They could also just have a different meaning for “soon”; they’ve announced tapings for 10/21 (see below) and 11/04, but nothing for 10/28 or past that date. I have no idea what they air tomorrow if they don’t run today.

Many of ELITE’s top luchadors and some of CMLL are scheduled to be in Tijuana tonight for Promociones Cholo de Tijuana. The main event is Rush & La Mascara versus LA Park and a partner TBA (Rey Fenix?) Caristico faces Rey Escorpion in a title match for an unspecified title. There are CMLL/Elite matches all over the card, which is something that’s not been allowed on other recent shows. The policy there is completely inconsistent.

Jeff Hardy was announced for the 10/26 The Crash show.

Angel de Oro debuts tonight in Ring of Honor. He’s wrestling in Chicago Ridge in a four way match with Nick Jackson, ACH and Kamaitachi.

I thought the Leyendas show was embarrassing, but CMLL obviously feels differently. Not only are the Dinamtias back tonight, but Arena Coliseo Guadalajara is teasing their own Leyendas Inmortales show with masks of Rayo de Jalisco, Canek, Fantasma, Huracan Ramirez (?), Black Shadow (???), Mascara Sagrada, and Satanico. Some of those names suggest they were just throwing out names. No date is announced.

+LuchaTV has a long sitdown interview with Psycho Clown.

LuchaWorld has a new edition of this podcast.

Producciones Sanchez (Arena Neza) is teasing a “Lucha Underground vs AAA” show in November.

Voices of Wrestling reviews this week’s Lucha Underground.

Even though Jack Evans says he’s off the AAA Japan card, Jack Evans is still being promoted as appearing on the AAA Japan card.

Flamita challenging Eita for the Open the Brave Gate championship on 11/03.

Rey Fenix promo for CaraLucha.


ELITE (FRI) 10/21/2016 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Pantera & Rocky Lobo vs Luzbel & Tanque Infernal
2) Emperador Azteca, Hijo de LA Park, Zumbi vs Diamante, Imposible, Karonte Jr.
3) El Bandido & Golden Magic vs Argos & Hijo De Dos Caras
4) Cibernético & Sharlie Rockstar vs Mr. Águila & Zumbido
5) Blue Demon Jr. vs Rey Escorpión [Liga Elite]
6) Carístico vs LA Park [cage, Liga Elite]

Caristico versus LA Park in a cage will be something. Rey Escorpion deserves some MVP votes if he can get a good match out of Demon. Diamante is here, which makes it a lot less likely he’s Drone.

CMLL Puebla: 2016-09-26 

Dragon Rojo step up plancha
Dragon Rojo step up plancha

Recapped: 10/10/2016

What happened: Dragon Rojo retained his title over Angel de Oro. Rush won the main event in straight falls, thanks to an inconsistent Tirantes performance.

What was good:  The only match I really watched closely was the semimain, and that’s worth checking out. Nothing else really stood out, though there were parts of the fourth match I liked

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel in full and has already aired on 52MX (though they skipped the main event) (more…)

lucha TV preview for weekend of October 15th


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Lucha Libre Retro, an hour show of matches from Saturday Arena Coliseo show, looks like it’s actually starting this week – it’s listed on the scheduled on Fox’s site. It’s airing the same time as the one good match on CMLL on Claro, conveniently enough.  The first taping mentioned for this show was September 3rd, but they could start any time after that.

AAA will have the rest of Heroes Inmortales. Hopefully all four matches! But maybe not.

We have no idea if/where Elite is taping on Friday. This is amazing. If you skipped out on the Elite show when it aired in Mexico, you need to go out of your way to watch Elite on Azteca USA this week.

IWRG on AYM might have the Lucha Libre Boom show – they’ve had it in the past – but there’s no telling for sure until Monday night (or Sunday if we spot the cameras.)

Lucha Underground‘s preview mentions Johnny Mundo and Sexy Star stuff too. There will be a big in-show announcement during the show this week.

Dia del Muertos, Drone, NWA LH cibernetico

CMLL (TUE) 10/11/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [+LuchaTV, CMLL]
1) Magnum & Reycko b Linterna & Sádico
Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Stigma b Cancerbero, Raziel, Sangre Azteca
Tecnicos took 2/3
3) Luciferno, Misterioso Jr., Olímpico b Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr.
Rudos took 2/3.
4) Mr. Niebla, Pierroth, Último Guerrero b Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada, Máximo Sexy
Rudos took 1/3.
5) Negro Casas & Shocker © b Valiente & Volador Jr. [CMLL TAG]
12th defense. Rudos took 1/3,

Shocker & Casas couldn’t lose, so they couldn’t.

CMLL held a press conference yesterday afternoon. Their notes are here. There was nothing huge, but the usual mix of things which had been announced and small things which had not.

The press conference was built around the Dia del Muertos shows (10/28, 10/30, 11/01 – the 10/25 date has been dropped.) Hechicero presented the Dia del Muertos performers. The 10/30 10/28 show will have the finals of the Universal tournament, as previously mentioned, and Atlantis and Ultimo Guerrero talked back and forth about that. Atlantis later told ESTO and El Sol de Mexico about how he doesn’t plan to retire any time soon.

The 11/01 (Tuesday) show will have Rey Bucanero defending the NWA Historic Light Heavyweight championship. Bucanero hasn’t done much with the championship (it didn’t even come up in the Crazy feud.) That’s after the Universal title final, which means title changes can start happening again. There’s no strong reason for Bucanero to be champion, and there’s a decent chance whoever faces him will win.

They’ll determine the challenger on 10/25 with a 12 person cibernetico. Stuka Jr., Valiente, Vangellys, Bobby Z, Gran Guerrero, La Mascara, Atlantis, Johnny Idol, Blue Panther Jr., Esfinge, Misterioso and Hechicero are the 12. Atlantis (national) and La Mascara (CMLL) are already light heavyweight champions and so are unlikely to challenge for another. If it has to be a tecnico to face Bucanero, that leaves Stuka, Valiente (who’s challenge Bucanero and lost), Johnny Idol, Blue Panther Jr. (unlikely) and Esfinge (unlikely.) CMLL seems excited about Johnny Idol at the moment, and he’d be a decent guess at the winner

The 10/28 10/30 (Sunday) show figures to have a special main event, but nothing was set up yet. Maybe the Marco/Shocker feud they started and stopped will end up there.

CMLL also introduced Drone (which their own press releases can’t decide if it’s meant to be “Drone” or “Dron”.) He’s got an elaborate outfit, says he’s from “the North” and was trained by Franco Colombo. I’m fairly certain this is an existing wrestler being given a new gimmick. We’ll have a better idea when he debuts on Tuesday.

Angel de Oro was interviewed talking about ROH and NJPW. Angel de Oro didn’t know much about his opponents. He said it was the first time he would be in a four way match. (He was in a four way match in CaraLucha.) Angel de Oro couldn’t remember how many times he’s gone to another country for wrestling, but he did remember the countries. (He figured this out later on by Informa.) Titan joined him to talk about their team for NJPW.

Rush was teasing a Ingobernable related surprise after his match on Tuesday.

TKD and CultIcon review this week’s Lucha Underground.

Rey Escorpion told Box Y Lucha he is not out of CMLL, but he’s so good the fans want to see him everywhere, so he’s just got to go other places right now. I think he still has a relationship with CMLL, but isn’t going to be working there while in Elite.

Volador is still hoping for the hair match with Cavernario.

This Sunday’s Arena Coliseo Monterrey show has La Parka, Canek and ??? versus Damian, Halloween and Nicho. Super Crazy turns up in the semimain teaming with X-Fly, or he’s at least listed as being there. A cross time, the Hijo del Santo & Santo Jr. vs Silver King & Silver King Jr. match comes to Arena Jose Sulaiman.

Lucha Memes has a 10/23 show in Coacalco (Chairo Bill Vol 2)
1: Hechicero vs Sammy Guevara – Hechicero replaces Titan (NJPW tour)
2: Impulso vs Mike Segura
3: Alberto Dos Rios vs Negro Navarro
4: Dragon Lee vs Ronnie Mendoza
5: Keira vs Silueta
6: Los Kamikazes del Aire (Alas de Acero, Iron Kid, Aramis) vs Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Flyer – this should be great

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

AAA posted a backstage promo with Aerostar & Drago.

The new edition of Sopresea Es Lucha talks about Alberto del Rio, Rey Fenix and Dragon Lee versus Kamaitachi.

This week’s Wrestling Observer Newsletter says Lucha Underground is working on 10/23 Phoenix, 10/30 Houston, and 11/05 in San Francisco. Other dates have been mentioned. Shows would be free. I know wrestlers have been told, but I’m skeptical they’re happening because they’re so close and nothing’s been announced.

The NYCC Lucha Underground panel is part of Sam Roberts’ podcast. (Or at least it’s said to be; I’m linking to this blind.)

Black Lotus is pregnant. She’s due in Spring 2017. No “regular” character disappears for longer stretches than Black Lotus, so I think they’re fully capable of working around her absence if they need to.

The Gladiatores talks to Daga about defeating Heroes Inmortales.


CMLL (TUE) 10/18/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Explosivo & León Blanco vs Espectrúm & Ráfaga
2) Frezzer, Sensei, Starman vs Furia Roja, Grako, Sangre Azteca
3) Oro Jr., Soberano Jr., Stigma vs Nitro, Puma, Tiger
4) Blue Panther, Esfinge, Johnny Idol vs Bobby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
5) Dragón Lee, Máximo Sexy, Rush vs Mr. Niebla, Shocker, Último Guerrero

Rush teaming with the brother he betrayed and the tag team part he betrayed. At least they’ve got Bobby Z with the trio he’s trying to join. Grako makes his debut in this building.

11/04 AAA TV Lineup (Aguascalientes)


AAA TV (FRI) 11/04/2016 Gimnasio Hermanos Carreon, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes
1) Dinastía, Octagoncito, Venum vs Mini Histeria, Mini Psycho Clown, Mocho Cota Jr.
2) El Apache, Faby Apache, Mary Apache vs Mamba, Súper Fly, Taya
3) Argenis, Niño Hamburguesa, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Parka Negra, Pirata Morgan
4) Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Zorro © vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin [AAA TRIOS]
5th defense (3rd on TV)
5) Daga & Pentagón Jr. vs Brian Cage & Johnny Mundo
6) La Parka, Psycho Clown, Texano Jr. vs Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Pagano

Air Date: 11/12 & 11/19

This was the missing lineup in the run of shows. The complete taping cycle from Heroes Inmortales to Guerra de Titanes:

10/14 Tlahuelilpan
10/28 Tlalnepantla
11/04 Aguascalientes (right there above)
11/20 Ciudad Juarez

The TV tapings catch up with the Heroes Inmortales angles in the main event; that’s the only time Pagano is scheduled to team with Monster & Murder on TV at the moment.

Pentagon may not be facing Mundo at Juarez, but he is Aguascalientes. That might be the best match of this cycle.

Trios title match should be interesting too, though expect the Apaches to get involved until such time as they don’t. The undercard are just matches to have matches. Taya’s match will be her first on TV since before TripleMania (though she’ll be cornering Mundo on the other shows.) Pirata Sr. does get booked against after Heroes Inmortales, though it doesn’t look like they’re doing a Pirata versus Pirata feud, or really much with either guy. On the spot shows, Hijo del Pirata Morgan has been replacing Taurus, which is a slight move up for him.

The open could be very good. Venum might still be around! Or he could’ve quit and come back like Pirata, who knows.

No Australian Suicide. No Alberto. I feel sadder about one of those. Alberto was under the impression his next show would be an AAA show, but there’s no sign of one. I wonder if he knew/knows he was pulled off the Juarez show?

This run of tapings start tomorrow. The next date we’re looking for is Guerra de Titanes.

Lucha Underground 3×6: The Open Road to Revenge

Aerostar is the highlight of the show he's on for a minute
Aerostar is the highlight of the show he’s on for a minute


Famous B [O] & Dr. Wagner Jr. beat Son of Havoc & Máscarita Sagrada [X] (6:23, Wagner Driver->Famous B stethoscope press, good)

Sexy Star defeats Jack Evans (9:13, swinging neckbreaker, good)

Pentagon Dark [O] beat Chavo Guerrero Jr. and Rey Mysterio Jr. [X] (8:37, good)


Sagrada scissors
Sagrada scissors

Remember early season 1, where it looked like Chavo Guerrero Jr. was going to be the main heel of Lucha Underground? That didn’t last all that long. If it had, I’d guess it would’ve looked something a lot like tonight’s episode, where Chavo was all over the place.

The scheduled main event was Dragon Azteca Jr. versus Pentagon Junior. It didn’t happen. Chavo could not defeat Azteca in the ring (thanks a bit to Rey), so he beat him up in the locker room with a chair. Rey was a little too late to help out this time and – after Azteca was sent to the hospital – stormed into Dario’s office to demand a match with Chavo. Chavo was already in there to demand the match with Pentagon himself. They fought in Dario’s office, which Dario enjoyed, and Dario decided they should fight in the ring too, in a three way match with Pentagon. There were no alliances in the match, but trip by Chavo left Rey hanging off the top rope, and Pentagon pulled Rey off into a package piledriver for the clean win. (Pentagon wasn’t distracted by Vampiro’s existence, a difference from episode 1.) Chavo lost his mind after the finish, destroying Rey’s knee with a chair and taking out referee Marty Elias when he tried to intervene.

Chavo Guerrero Sr. – or “Chavo Classic”, as they used his WWE name – was mentioned a lot during the show. Dragon Azteca Jr. had a poster of Dragon Azteca versus Chavo Guerrero, which Chavo Jr. claimed was a resounding win for his father. Striker & Vampiro brought up Chavo Classic a lot in commentary, with Vampiro talking about Chavo KO-ing (an unnamed) Rey Mysterio Sr. in a locker room fight years ago. It was too much to be incidental, and more like they were introducing the concept of Chavo Classic before we saw him.

Jack broken

The other two matches didn’t have any vignettes, but they did have some story. Máscarita Sagrada rode in a side car to Son of Havoc’s bike on the way to the ring, and Sagrada was more effective as a tag partner than he has been on his own. Still, he was cleanly beaten by a Wagner Driver. Wagner tagged in B to allow him to get the pin, which the announcers noted was B’s first in Lucha Underground. (Son of Havoc seems to be friends with Sagrada off of Famous B & Wagner costing him his title shot at the end of Season 2, but it wasn’t brought up in commentary.)

Sexy Star survived the challenge of Jack Evans – and some other people – to remain Gift of the Gods champion. PJ Black used a kendo stick to play air guitar/distract the referee late, allowing Johnny Mundo to spear Sexy Star on the outside and send her in for a near fall. Mundo seemed to have no issue with Jack winning the title he so desperately wants, despite Vampiro predicting the opposite. Aerostar & Drago ran off Black & Mundo, and Fenix distracted the referee from a pin when Jack tried using the ropes on his usual bridge. In the confusion, Sexy got the kendo stick, fouled Jack with it, and beat him with a swinging neckbreaker.

There was another vague Rabbit Tribe teaser. They’re coming, but they’re not here yet.

Maybe they’ll be here next week. Two matches were announced during the show definitely for next week: another Dial of Doom title match against Matanza, and Mil Muertes vs Prince Puma.


fall to nowhere
fall to nowhere

I liked all three matches, though all in very separate ways and with different expectations attached. They’re all rated the same up there, but the main event was the best for me – and still a little disappointing. It never found a great rhythm, with Chavo/Rey feeling a lot different than Pentagon/Rey (and Chavo/Pentagon not really feeling all that much.) It was great to see Pentagon pick up a win, and a pretty definite won, to come back after his early loss. It’s a little weird to realize this Dragon Azteca storyline was all a setup for a Chavo/Mysterio feud, but that seems where they’re at.

The opener was heavily comedy. I enjoyed it, not just because the comedy was good, but because Dr. Wagner had to sell for a mini and that made me happy. It doesn’t take much, sometimes. That seems to be building to a Famous B/Mascarita Sagrada match, and I think the fans are actually going to be into it.

In fact, if you hit pause right now and ran a Lucha Underground PPV this Sunday, you’d be able to put together a card without thinking too hard

  • Matazna vs Dial of Doom winner
  • Puma vs Mil
  • Rey vs Chavo
  • Mundo vs Sexy Star for the Gift of the Gods
  • Texano vs Cage
  • Famous B vs Máscarita Sagrada
  • Ivelisse/Jeremiah vs Mariposa/Marty?
  • Maybe a trios title match?
  • some sort of payoff for the Cortez/Ryan & Killshot storylines

LU is definitely going places with these feuds, it’s just without the mile markers of a traditional PPV cycles. You’re kind of stuck waiting each week to see if this is the episode they’ll get there. Announcing Puma vs Mil for next week helps.

(And as seen tonight with Pentagon/Azteca, sometimes they don’t actually get there.)

neckbreaking piledriver
neckbreaking piledriver

Sometimes you just are required to have faith things will work out. I know I didn’t have any faith in Jack Evans versus Sexy Star at all, and I still wouldn’t regard it as a great match by any means. Jack’s offense had to be dumbed down or done away with – in some ways, he would’ve been able to do more than with the proverbial broomstick – but it was amazing he was able to get 9 minutes out of mostly selling for Sexy Star. She was not so great, but Jack went beyond the call of duty to make her look like an equal or better. The entire match wasn’t Jack bumping around, but it would’ve been nothing without him doing it. There’s not many people who could’ve done this as well as he did.


Rush cheats Diamante Azul, LU preview, Jack Evans, Alberto


CMLL (TUE) 10/11/2016 Arena México [CMLL, CultIcon, Notimex, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Akuma & Camorra b Flyer & Leono LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 11 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Nitro b Hombre Bala Jr., Oro Jr., Robin LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 11 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Disturbio, Okumura, Virus b Blue Panther Jr., Pegasso, The Panther LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 11 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 2/3.
4) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Titán b Pólvora, Sagrado, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 11 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Titan replaced Rey Cometa (because Cometa was added to Friday’s show) Tecnicos took 1/3.
5) Atlantis, Johnny Idol, Mistico b Dragón Rojo Jr., La Máscara, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 11 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Rush b Diamante Azul LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 11 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2016 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rush took 1/3. La Mascara distracted Tirantes, Rush stole Diamante Azul’s mask, fouled him, put on the mask, and covered him for three. It was impossible for Tirantes to not see Rush had the mask on, and he even stopped counting after one, but then continued counting. Diamante Azul pulled the mask off of Rush’s face and put it back on.

The main event, and the finish, got strongly negative reviews.

Lucha Underground’s episode tonight is “The Open Road With Revenge”, the 6th of the week. Matches advertised for tonight, some more vague than others:

  • Sexy Star defends the Gift of the Gods Championship against Jack Evans (video)
  • something with Dr. Wagner, Famous B, Mascarita Sagrada and Son of Havoc
  • Chavo Guerrero vs Dragon Azteca Jr.

The previews says Rey Mysterio get involved with the last match.

Den of Geek has a recap of the NYCC Lucha Underground panel.

Today’s also the first Lucha Ilimitado show, in Yakima, Washington. Matches include Jeff Hardy vs Rey Misterio, Hijo del Santo & Santo Jr. vs Juventud Guerrera & Psicosis and Jeff Cobb vs Rey Fenix vs Sonjay Dutt vs Jonathan Gresham.

There’s no sign of an Elite lineup for this week, so they must not be running (and I have no idea what airs except repeats.) Many of their usual wrestlers are in Tijuana this Friday instead.

Jack Evans says he’s off the AAA Star Battle show. This probably has to do with the interview he did in Spain and there’s probably more going on beyond him being off one show. Hope it gets worked out in a positive way for everyone.

Alberto seems to be sticking with his newest “I got knifed because a drunk person said something rude about Paige” story, as he repeated it to TMZ at the Combates Americas press conference. A near 40 year old adult getting into a fight with a drunk person because they said something mean is not as a heroic story as he’d like it to be, if we even believe that story. This week’s MLW Radio didn’t include Court Bauer , and MSL blew off the issue with last week’s stories as “I don’t what happened, I just hope they’re ok” in about 5 seconds. I totally agree with that sentiment.

Of note, the press conference only announced Alberto’s new role (and his new Alberto “El President” Rodriguez name, since he’s president of Combates.) They didn’t announce the deal with Azteca in Mexico which the network mentioned a few days ago, so either that’s not done yet or they wanted to save it for later.

Voices of Wrestling has a really great piece on Villano III’s career.

Dragon Rojo Jr. talked about his career and being anti-bullying. He says he was bullied for his dark skin color, which eventually led to him working out at a gym to get strong enough to fight back against bullies, and then to lucha. One of his bullies later became a fan.

CMLL talks about Angel de Oro, Fuego and Titan heading to Japan. Titan notes it’s his fourth trip this year, and CMLL notes Fuego’s popularity due to his enthusiastic performances.

Lucha Memes has a 10/23 show in Coacalco (Chairo Bill Vol 2)
1: Hechicero vs Sammy Guevara Hechicero replaces Titan (NJPW tour)
2: Impulso vs Mike Segura
3: Alberto Dos Rios vs Negro Navarro
4: Dragon Lee vs Ronnie Mendoza
5: Keira vs Silueta

I don’t know this for a 100% fact, but I’m fairly sure Titan & Angel de Oro weren’t going to be on this tour until Matt Sydal disappeared. (So, thanks?)

Liger Fever has a recap of the latest Podcast Boom. There’s a long La Parka (AAA) burial. Of note, Konnan believes AAA working with Multimedios is happening at least in part to stop Konnan from working with Multimedios on his own projects. I could’ve sworn Mutlimedios and Konnan previously insisted they weren’t working on anything together.

Adictos Al Deporte is teasing Pagano versus Konnan Big on 10/23 in Monterrey (so it’s probably happening.)

Guadalajara is teasing a Rayo de Jalisco appearance. Rayo was the best person in the 09/16 main event, and you can’t say that about many Rayo matches.

Yesterday was the fifth anniversary of CMLL luchador Dr. X’s passing.

The Gladiatores has video interviews with the Hip Hop Man family, Dragon Fly, Trauma II and Imposible..

Tiger Rojo Jr. took Barbaro II’s hair in Arena San Ramon.

Mascara Dorada says he’s not on the 10/16 DTU show.

Negro Casas, Rey Horuz, Xtreme Tiger and Bestia 666 are advertised on 10/23 in Tijuana.

In Dragon Gate, Flamita’s getting the next title shot at Eita’s Brave Gate championship. (There were far more interesting things happening on that show if you’re a Dragon Gate fan.) The date hasn’t been set, but 11/03 is the next big Dragon Gate show.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.


CMLL (TUE) 10/18/2016 Arena México
1) Metatrón & Robin vs Akuma & Metálico
2) Fuego, Pegasso, Rey Cometa vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Disturbio, Virus
3) Star Jr. vs Skándalo [lightning]
4) Ángel de Oro, Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Hechicero, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado
5) Atlantis, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
6) Diamante Azul, Máscara Dorada, Mistico vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto

Luciferno in a main event! Any feud that starts now will end after the Universal tournament, so they could actually move on past the Hijos del Infierno as trios champions if CMLL wanted. Not sure if that’ll happen with a Mascara Dorada team, though.

Drone is a new name. New name completely – he doesn’t show up on indie results, so it’s likely someone getting a new personality to start higher of Fuego & Rey Cometa. (This card is really unbalanced with tecnicos and rudo.) I’m done with the Vanguard 1 jokes already.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2016-09-20 


Recapped: 10/10/2016

What happened: Mephisto kept the CMLL Welterweight championship over Titan.

What was good:  You should check out the Mephisto/Titan match, and the main event was good too.

I previously talked about the rest of the card when I saw it live; everything was OK and not really worth talking about again.

Where can I watch it:  It’s on CMLL’s channel. (more…)

11/20 AAA TV Lineup (Ciudad Juárez)

photo by AAA
photo by AAA

AAA TV (SUN) 11/20/2016 Gimnasio Municipal Jose Neri Santos, Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua
1) Big Mami, Niño Hamburguesa, Octagoncito vs El Apache, Lady Shani, Mini Psycho Clown
2) Pimpinela Escarlata vs Mamba [bull terrier]
3) Faby Apache & Mary Apache vs Averno & Chessman
4) Daga, Joe Lider, Pentagón Jr. vs Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown
5) Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Psycho Clown, Pagano
6) Garza Jr., La Parka, Texano Jr. vs ?, Brian Cage, Johnny Mundo

Air Date: 11/26 & 12/03

This is the third upcoming taping announced, following this Friday’s show in Tlahuelilpan and the show on 10/28 in Tlalnepantla. The lineup for the 11/04 Aguascalientes taping hasn’t been announced; Ciudad Juarez must be putting their tickets on sale sooner.

The notable name is the one not here: Alberto el Patron was advertised for this show before Heroes Inmortales. It’s possible he was removed from the card after he didn’t show in Monterrey. Alberto probably woudl’ve been part of the same match he was meant to be in at Hereos Inmortales, which is instead a three way.

Interestingly, there’s a second version of the card floating around, being put out in Juarez. In that one, Pentagon is in the main event and Garza Jr. is facing the Clowns. My guess is AAA sent the lineup out to the local promoter, then changed their mind and decided they’d rather continue the Garza feud with Mundo than resume the Pentagon one. That’s wouldn’t be a a popular decision, but one probably based on Garza being more available than Pentagon.

Maybe it’ll be moot and Pentagon will get involved by the end. The only thing I can figure out for a Guerra de Titanes main event is maybe the big blowoff Mexico/US (in a cage, since they haven’t done one of those) and Pentagon and more Team Trump people might get involved in that. On the other hand, AAA doesn’t really have anything for their main events beyond that feud, so they may be in no hurry to blow it off.


On this card, Dave the Clown has joined the ex-Psycho Clowns for a dreadful trio. Daga is just an extra person in matches in this cycle, and Australian Suicide is not booked outside the Japan show. AAA doesn’t seem to be following up on their mask match in any noticeable way.

Tercera has the TripleMania rematch. We can pencil in some variation of that for Guerra de Titanes. Faby being dropped from the Japan show (La Hiedra was announced as a replacement on Tuesday) and being kept out of the match at Heroes Inmortales suggested she’s dealing with an issue, but she’s still booked on this show.

Mamba and Pimpinela both is out of nowhere (there’s no angle for a match, Pimpi’s not on the October TV tapings) and makes sense (the two regularly booked exoticos have feuded forever.) The opener is a match.

This is not a strong show on match quality, to say the least. There’s not a match on the show that sounds like it’ll be good. Hopefully Aguascalientes is better.

CMLL Puebla: 2016-09-19


Recapped: 10/08/2017

What happened: Negro Casas & Shocker kept the tag team titles by taking out Mistico’s knee. Ultimo Guerrero/Rush and Angel de Oro/Dragon Rojo matches were set up.

What was good: I really liked the main event and there was a lot of solid stuff in the undercard.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel, and the Guerreros del Ring TV version has aired by the time you’re reading this (which curiously omitted the title match.) (more…)