CMLL Puebla: 2017-07-24 

Zeuxis & Sanely have a hammer/nail rivalry 

Recapped: 07/25/2017

All matches aired live from Arena Puebla

What happened: 

Volador wears a Ingobernables jersey and works rudo in the main event, but it dropped after this match. Rush puled Caistico’s mask to win, and a post match argument set up a match between them.

In classic Tirantes form, Shockercito kicks out at 2.9 on a sunset flip and Tirantes counts three and then mocks Shockercito for not kicking out. This sets up a title match for next week.


I had three separate GIFs of Tirantes doing something dumb on this show but I’ll just use this bump

Guerrero Espacial & Perverso beat Arkalis & París
(12:48 [5:31, 3:56, 3:21], 2/3, ok, via

Opener had better action and more of it than usual. Tecnicos looked really good in the first fall and rudos did more than the usual time killing. Arkalis did a nice bit of grabbing Guerrero’s arm and rolling him over in the first fall that came off as really slick. Not the greatest flow and this is an anti destroyer pick, but most watchable locals only match in a while.

Shockercito  beat Pierrothito in a lightning match
(7:38, sunset flip, good, via

match was a really good match in their usual style up until the screwed up finish. They both are good singles wrestlers who don’t get to do it much here and have a lot of stuff they can only break out in matches like this. From the opening comedy to Shockcercito’s big dive, this really works. Maybe this might be skippable because of that messed up finish and the fact they’re probably be better next week.

La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely beat La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis
(12:29 [6:32, 2:56, 3:01], 1/3, ok, via Video: 

An alright women’s match that’s probably generous to be called OK but I don’t care. Vaquerita looked cooler in her white shirt than her normal outfit, which might say she needs a new outfit. That’s all the deep insight I have on this one.

Shockercito ha a good tope

Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Stuka Jr. beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(14:19 [4:21, 2:27, 7:31], 2/3, ok, via

Effective well worked match with lots of topes. Rudos were finishing out their run strong, looking good as a team and rolling along the match well. The técnicos didn’t stand out but did well. This was the second match of the night where no one understood what was going on because Tirantes messed up a count.

Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas beat Dragón Lee, Mistico, Titán  
(9:51 [2:55, 1:26, 5:30], 1/3, ok, via

This was not too far off from the previous match, but shorter and a less to it. Enjoyable but a good version of the usual match and just not enough of it to recommend. Not a bad effort by any means. Negro Casas versus everyone is good, but we haven’t got to see him much Titan of late and they did well n in the third fall too.

Carístico, Diamante Azul, Euforia vs Pierroth, Rush, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match
(5:59 [2:51, 3:08], 1/2, ok, via

What we learned here is heel Volador wears his hair in a dumb pony tail. This is important info. Volador can also do headscissors while wearing a baseball jersey. I can wear a baseball jersey but can not do a headscissors. They got to next week’s match fine but this wasn’t exactly promising big things in it. The post match promos were good at least.

Casas/Lee is headlining Homenaje a Dos Leyendas 2018

lucha TV preview for weekend of August 3rd

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This week’s Lucha Underground is titled Bloodlines. The preview mentions Captain Vazquez gets a visitor. Maybe we’ll learn more about her mysterious bloodlines, or Dario’s since the FBI is mentioned as meeting him this week.

AAA this weekend has Sexy Star’s return. I’m just as excited as you are. What’ll be interesting to see is if they leave Vampiro’s speech burying Taya in there. It really doesn’t serve any purpose if Taya’s not coming back, it probably just antagonizes the relationship more if it’s aired, and it’s only purpose left seem to be make Vampiro into more of a hero. Admittedly, making Vampiro seem like a hero seems to be the #1 priority of AAA TV at the moment, but maybe they can let that one slide as not to antagonize the situation? They’re still going to look dumb if Mundo just is annoyed enough not to show up up at TripleMania to lose his title, and Mundo knows he’ll be brought back even if he does so because they brought back Sexy Star after she did the same thing.

Edit: I got ahead of myself. AAA this week is still finishing up Puebla, with Johnny Mundo/Texano, Psycho/Pagano and Wagner/Mesias.

Puebla has Stuka vs Mephisto, the most “alright” title match possible.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-22

Super Fly helpfully leaps into death

Recapped: 07/23/2017

All matches were taped at Poliforum, Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas on 06/19/2017


Estrella Divina beat Pimpinela Escarlata
(5:30, moonsault, below average, 
Lucha Libre AAA)

Averno & Súper Fly beat Argenis & La Parka
(5:47, Super Fly frogsplash Argenis, ok, Lucha Libre AAA)

Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías, Kevin Kross beat Hijo del Fantasma, Pagano, Psycho Clown in a relevos increíbles match
(16:42, Kross pin Fantasma after Texano interference, ok, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened: 

Kross suplex of the taping

Even though the main event has been hyped as a trios match for the rest of the show, there’s a graphic for Psycho Clown vs Kevin Kross. The rudo team all come separate, but the tecnico team enter with Psycho Clown. The rudos beatdown the tecnicos for two forever, with Pagano getting his knee wrapped. It lasts long enough that fans actually boo. Comeback finally comes after eight minutes.

After about 15 minutes, Kross and Fantasma were left in. Texano walked down to ringside with his bullrope wrapped around his hand as if a loaded glove, and punches Fantasma in the face with it. Kross was surprised, but cover for the pin. Fantasma and Texano brawl into the crowd, really doing a lot more grabbing and walking than brawling as far as we can see. Everyone else wander out to fight for no real reason – Marty is there, mentioned by name at the end this week. Sangre Chicana shows up to music and punches Averno for attacking Pimpienla (almost falling down in the process.) Wagner hand Psycho hit each other with a chair, and end up wearing each other’s mask for the laugh. Texano ends up with Fantamsa’s mask. This goes on and on and on.

Averno berates the crowd like usual before his match, before they cut back stage where Niño Hamburguesa and Argenis have found Parka laying on the floor. He’s apparently been attacked, though the OGT are all in the ring so maybe they didn’t do it? (At the end of the show, in the usual highlight package, there’s a shot of Vampiro leaving the room and waiving at the camera no – but it comes off more like an outtake than some teaser, especially since Parka’s standing away fine at that point.) Security checks on Parka, then tries to stop Argenis from going to the ring by himself confusingly. The OGT throw the mic to Argenis, who decides to fight 1 on 3 instead. It works, even though he keeps alive by getting a move here and there. Eventually Super Fly smacks him with a clothesline, and all three OGT wrestlers, including the guy in the match, stomp on Argenis. Chessman does leave, and Super Fly and Averno double team Argenis by themselves, but then he helps out when they go outside.

Super Fly is the coolest

Argenis gets a comeback and a near fall (which the OGT hasn’t bothered with), but Chessman comes into break it up. No DQ. That is Parka’s cue to hobble in and clear house, but Chessman breaks up his pin with a chair. No DQ. Averno fouls Argenis and Super Fly adds a frog splash to that to win. OGT unmask Argenis post match.

Divina attacks Pimpi on the outside to lead into the opener. About 5 minutes in, Pimpinela climbs to the top rope and falls down to the mat without anyone touching her or the ropes. Divina quickly tries a moonsault (that mostly misses) to win.

Arturo Rivera interviews Psycho Clown backstage (right in front of the flags of Joaquin and Antonio) to start the show. Psycho Clown is totally different from usual, with them playing up the Psycho part of Psycho Clown while talking about this rivals. There’s lots of dramatic breathing. Arturo is taken aback by Psycho’s action.

Noti AAA has Ashley & Black Fury talking about participating in La Llave de la Gloria (and thanking the sponsors) as they promote the final tyrout in Ceyala.

Jonny Mundo & Kross have a phone conversation to establish that Mundo wants Kross to win and Kross is frustrating with Mundo ordering him around so much. It’s one of those phone conversations they haven’t exactly been told what the person is going to say and it’s awkward. (Kross: “Stop calling!” Mundo: “Okay, you better be.”) By the end of the show, Kross has stopped answering Mundo’s calls.


I didn’t GIF Pimpinela falling again because it was too sad but this wasn’t much better and I have no idea why any of it aired

Just a totally skippable episode. Nothing really happens outside of Kross and Mundo teasing problems and AAA being unable to remember which briefcase is supposed to be for the title shot.

The main event was average, hitting all the normal beats, just much longer than usual because everything else went so short. The length didn’t really help it, and it didn’t help the brawl afterwards, it felt like both were really stretched out. (And, despite all that it felt like Fantasma was ignored to give plenty of time to Pagano & Psycho Clown.) It was another thing where they tried to get five angles done at once and got none of them over. Kross actually tried to do things during the very long beatdown, which was ineffective but appreciated.

The tag match was not a tag match but definite a waste of time. Argenis vs the two rudos were fun while it lasted; this would be a decent feud if not for LA Parka and for it not going anywhere at all. Super Fly looked great as usual and Argenis’s comeback bits made this more watchable than the usual one sided long rudo beatdown. The florescent OGT color scheme doesn’t work at all with Chessman’s look but Averno’s talked him into wearing it anyway.

this old legend nearly fell down throwing a punch and I think AAA is going to put him in a ring next month because it’s impossible to learn things

It’s not really a surprise Divina/Pimpinela was a match I didn’t like – the people who decided have very different criteria for what is a good idea to put on TV and believe Pimpinela is so over that the quality of the match isn’t much good. The surprise is how amazingly not over Pimpinela was, especially in strong base of Nuevo Laredo. She got a reaction for the entrance and a bit of one for the rope walk, but the crowd was so dead for the rest of this. It made the middling action look even worse, and Pimpi’s fall looked sad. Divina didn’t impress in this one, and a lot of that was on Divina’s own offense.

Dragons vs Mariachis, La Llave a La Gloria, Super Astros

IWRG (WED) 08/02/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV]
1) Tentáculo b Celestial Boy
2) Climax Jr. & Shaolin b Atomic Star & Lunatic Xtreme
3) Kempo Jr., Monaguillo, Warrior Jr. b Alas de Acero, Aramis, Kanon
4) Demasiado, Diva Salvaje, Miss Gaviota b Acero, Picudo Jr., Samot[lumberjack]
Samot replaced Demonio Infernal, making his first appearance here since 2011.
5) Anubis Black, Leo, Rafy, Teelo b Eterno, Harry The Sick, Ovett, Taylor Wolf
Anubis Black’s first match here since 2015.
6) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly b Diablo Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible
Dinamic Dragons took falls 2/3 and asked for a Mexico State trios title match after the win

That sounds like a good title match. Harry The Sick (or sometimes Harry Sick) is a Chilean in Mexico like Taylor Wolf.

Record says there are 49 men and 8 women who are advancing to the finals of the La Llave a la Gloria tournament, including the latest winners. That’s the count of only the people who advanced thru the tryouts (and is probably 1 high, if Dalton Bragg is still retired.) That would mean people who’s only link to the tournament was appearing on TV La Llave a La Gloria matches, like standout Hijo del Vikingo, are not among those battling for a shot at TripleMania. In reality, I think Record has no more idea of what’s going on here than we do and no one’s really going to understand the concept at any point. I still think it’ll be ok, because there’s enough good people in here that someone good will win a week from Saturday.

El Son de Leon has a nice interview with local wrestler Shiva, who talks about advancing in La Llave a La Gloria competition in Celaya, thanks the various people who trained him, and mentioned Internacional Pantera (II) talking to him about potentially going to Japan. The only problem is no one named Shiva is listed as advancing in the La Llave a La Gloria tournament from Celaya. He could be the mystery person, he could be listed under a different name, or maybe they just meant advancing from the morning workout to the matches, I have no idea. The date of the interview is before the winners were actually announced.

Vampiro answered some question from AAA fans on Facebook. They did not talk about the Johnny Mundo situation, which is probably for the best.

One of the questions Vampiro is asked is about the always changing taping lineups. Vampiro explains there have been drastic internal changes in AAA, promoters still want matches months in advance, but matches may change because of injuries or people going/not going to tapings or other reasons. The new philosophy of the company is it’s neccessary to change the matches. They know some people aren’t happy, but the feel they’ve been changing the matches for the better. This is along the same lines Vampiro has explained the situation on other shows. There’s not an explanation of why they advertise matches at all, but it’s implied to be a demand of the local promoter.

Vampiro’s also asked where he sees AAA in three years. He sees AAA opening a path to Europe (Italy, Spain, Russia, France, England mentioned), exchanging talent with GFW, Lucha Underground continuing, and going to Japan for the Lucha World Cup. Those are some good goals but they’d need to start soon on building their name up in Europe if they’d want to be successful there in a couple years.

R de Rudo says it’s actually Keira’s REINA title CMLL is deciding, with the idea they took it away because she’s The Crash champion. That’s a different belt than CMLL is advertising on CMLL’s website or what JCR mentioned on Informa, but R de Rudo may still be correct. The key is no one else understands the difference between these stupid and pointless title belts so it’s quite possible neither does CMLL. For what it’s worth, the cibernetico they’re doing this Sunday is one where the final two advance (and get booed for not having a final because this concept gets rejected by the fans every single time and CMLL doesn’t care.)

Super Astros on 08/18 in Arena Naucalpan has announced so far
Hijo de Alebrije, Astrolux, Pegazus vs Kratoz, Kamikaze, Demonio Infernal
Candy White, Diva Salvaje, Cinthia Moreno, Taylor Wolf vs Muneca de Plata, Rossy Moreno, Cerebro Negro, Demasiado
Eterno, Epydemius, Bobby Zavala vs Dr. Karonte Jr., Demus 3:16, Fishman Jr.
Bandido, Emperador Azteca, Ciclon Ramirez Jr. vs Metaleon, Templario, Imposible

That last match could be a CMLL match if CMLL used all the people who went thru their training school.

DJZ has been officially cleared to return to the ring after his injury on a The Crash show fourth months ago.

+Lucha has an interview with Raul Mendoza in WWE. I suspect he’s going to get (another) name before they really start doing things with him.

Volador talks about winning the Universal tournament.

Alberto is part of a FULL show on 09/17 in Tlaxcala.

CultIcon reviews last night’s Lucha Underground and writes about Blue Panther vs Love Machine in CMLL and the AAA rematch.

2017 watch later catch up, part 4 of ∞

starts off crazy, just gets more so

Hey, these are back. This is out of order from the TV show watch order but who cares, it’ll flow better this way.

Arez vs Belial vs Impulso in a three way apuesta match
(WMC @ Arena San Juan on February 26, 29:41, good, via +LuchaTV)

  1. Impulso Fire Driver Belial (23:54)
  2. Belial top rope double stomp Arez (29:41)

I’m probably going to be the low person on this match because match logic is a big deal to me and outweighed the action. I was so frustrated by the opening half of the match. So much time spent with two guys teaming up, than turning one each other when it didn’t really make any sense. It’s like there’s a timer the luchadors can see but we can not in the three ways, and they have to switch alignment as soon as it hits 0:00. There’s no more logic than that and it’s frustrating to watch – even more so when it’s elimination and there’s no reason to attack each other (maybe steal pins, but that’s about it.) Still, this did eventually settle down into something more conventional before the first elimination and the damage and blood leading up to it made those big moves feel more dramatic. I really liked it when it came down to Arez and Belial battling to service the last few minutes, though I think they were both so tired that it looked sloppy on it’s own. This was an ambitious effort that didn’t quite work for me but I appreciated the effort. It is getting to the point where I should probably stop reviewing three way matches because my reviews of them aren’t useful if it’s the same complaints over and over again.

Belial tope
Arez suplex into a driver

Chicano & Veneno © vs Black Terry & Diablo Jr. for the IWRG Intercontinental Tag Team Championship
(IWRG on February 26, 24:07 [13:57, 3:58, 6:12], good, via 

This was a rare all technical match, with need team event really hinting at being rudos and wrestling a clean title match all the way thru. Veneno is totally serious (probably too serious, maybe don’t need him bleeding off headbutts back and forth with Terry) and Chicano looked good; I was picking this one out more for the other two but they were their equal. There’s not as many highs and lows in this match, Chicano is somehow pinned after doing a move in the third fall, and the finish is typically bad IWRG stuff, but the action leading up that point a good use of time.

not sure we needed exactly this
a cool set up to a suplex leads to Chicano being pinned

LA Park & Rey Escorpión vs Daga & Penta Zero M
(AULL/Klandestino on March 1, 31:09 [8:23, 10:16, 12:30], good, via 

There’s a great bit of hilarity on insisting on doing a very traditional three falls match where you’re throwing entire rows of chairs at each other. This match seems to suffer for it by the end, as the match runs out of stream as the third fall goes along and probably would’ve been better without it. It’s got a usual LA Park screwy finish too. It’s great early on, with Penta get thrashed for quite a while and impressively so. He knows how to sell for those kind of brawls and set up the next big spot, something Daga is definitely not as good at (but obviously is going to get a lot of practice at as long as he’s in the indie matches.) LA Park worked hard, and Rey Escorpión is the right kind of partner for a match like this. There’s a great match here with a little editing.

it was one of these kind of matches
this Daga combo is cool and completely unrepresentative of the rest of the match

Sky Man vs Saturno [MUCHAS LUCHAS CHAMP]
(Cara Lucha @ Arena San Juan on March 3, 20:46, excellent, via

Esto es lucha libre – Saturno shows up here, absolutely kills it, and then disappears into the ether for the rest of the year. Saturno’s been well regarded by lightly seen by virtue of the Guadalajara indies being barely visible, but this caliber of match should’ve gotten him and booked anywhere. It’s the kind of match Sky Man and Rayo Star were trying to have when feuding, but Saturno’s just a bit better than them. Just a bit insane too; I don’t know if he knew this was his best shot to make a name for himself, but he’s clearly throwing everything into it from the opening moment, trying to kill Sky Man as much as he’s trying to kill himself. Sky Man meets Saturno on his level, trying to fight fire with fire. The match breaking down into a scrum of punches and gouging on the mat feels completely earned, and that hatred seems to flesh out the match a little bit more than just seeing the spots. Sky Man comes out the winner but it felt like he survived a war rather than conclusively won. This one of the matches of the year to watch.

Saturno throwing it all in this tope
Sky Man surviving

Black Terry & Diablo Jr. © vs Black Dragón & Internacional Pantera for the IWRG Intercontinental Tag Team Championship
(IWRG on March 12, 24:33 [9:46, 7:54, 6:53], great, via 

I’m just going basically by date on my list, couldn’t remember why I wasn’t doing that before, and then realized it’s because I try to avoid seeing two similar matches in one recap. That’s the case here, as this is not that far off from the other Terry/Diablo tag title match. Those two play very slight rudos here, but it’s still a heavily technical match done in a similar style. This one had the big advantage of no Danny Casas, and I think the kids stood out well here. Diablo Jr. looks really smooth and has some great dropkicks, and Black Dragon impressed with his agility. I’m giving this one a better grade but there’s not a lot that separates the two, they’re both really solid action for an extended period of time, with a bit more drama in this one.

an explosive elbow drop
I didn’t mean for this match to be just Black Dragon GIFs but that’s the way it turned out

Imposible vs Emperador Azteca
(IWRG on April 23, 9:41, good, via 

This was much more of a crazy brawl than I would’ve thought, and one that gets better as it goes along (Azteca has a rough start.) I wanted more stuff in ring, but they were entertaining grabbing anything they could to throw at each other. This is a much more Emperador match than usual – no chair sit spot Imposible for one – and he shows some good life. The crowd is really loud for the finish, but it looked messed up, with Emperador clearly kicking out before three on a move that didn’t seem like the thing that would end a match. Emperador made challenges that made sense only if he won too, so it was probably not the designed finished.

no tope
yes tope con giro


Lucha Underground 3×29: The Hunger Inside



Fenix beat Pindar in a Cueto Cup quarterfinal (5:17, top rope double stomp, good)

Prince Puma beat Dante Fox in a Cueto Cup quarterfinal (10:55, 630 splash, excellent)

Johnny Mundo beat Dragon Azteca Jr. (8:53, Fin de Mundo, great)


don’t mess with Dante Fox

(This is another episode way way more GIFs than I could use; you can see them all here.)

The big news was at the end. Johnny Mundo defeated Dragon Azteca cleanly, then went to break his neck with a chair. Rey Mysterio made the save. Mysterio and Azteca got Mundo to back off and left, but Mundo snuck back – he noticed Rey’s family was sitting in the front row. Mundo and Dominic got into a war of words and Mundo called security on Rey’s son. Rey ran back out, and right into an ambush by the rest of Worldwide Underground. (They’d been banned from the match, but now the match was definitely over.) Worldwide Underground held Rey for a belt shot – but Johnny hit Dominic, with his buddies making Rey watch. Their match is now three episodes away.

Taya, Jack and PJ accepted that ban from the match because they were offered a spot in a 3v3 Azteca Medallion match next week by Dario Cueto. I’m not sure what or if Dario promised the same to other people, but there was a noticeable lack of in match interference on the show.

That meant Fenix didn’t have to deal with Marty or Mariposa in his match, and he was able to win and move to the semifinals with Melissa cheering him on. Pindar put up a competitive fight but ended up being no match. As Striker pointed out, Fenix was able to get a little bit of revenge for the Reptile Tribe winning the trios titles. We did catch the Moth later, stalking Melissa in the parking lot again as she and Fenix flirted. Marty’s decided he could break those two off if he could just take Fenix’s mask away.

There was similarly no interference in the Puma/Fox match, an incredible battle that had the crowd cheering for both men who currently posses questionable ethics. Dante Fox lost but was so over by the end that the crowd didn’t much care for Killshot attacking Dante after the fact for some revenge. Killshot confirmed it wasn’t over between them.

Dante Fox finds the most dangerous way to fall

Fenix and Prince Puma will face in the semifinals (in two episodes). They leave these matches for next week:

  • Pentagon Dark vs Texano in a Cueto Cup semifinal
  • Mil Muertes vs Jeremiah Crane in a Cueto Cup semifinal
  • PJ Black, Jack Evans, Taya vs TBA for 3 Aztec Medallions

The show featured a couple more plot check-ins. Matanza appears to be physically healthy as his fall thru the upper level, but Dario has some questions about his mental health. Dario feels his brother hunger for revenge on Rey led him to be weak minded enough to be thwarted again by Mysterio, and more failure will cause the Gods to cast Matanza aside or even destroy him.

Meanwhile, Captain Vazquez has noticed Councilman Delgado is very much dead and knows Cage did it, but she’s more focused on getting the gauntlet than the man himself. Officer Reyes/Cortez Castro/Veneno wants no part of that idea, saying no man alive could get that gauntlet off of Cage right now. Vazquez seemed to have a plan as she looked at her half locket.


watch where Dante’s head ends up

This was one of the best Lucha Underground episodes ever. Prince Puma versus Dante Fox might be the best non-stipulation match they’ve had on this show; I’m only not saying it absolute because I may have forgotten something, but it’s way up there.

The Lucha Underground taping situation makes the show unlike any other wrestling show. They don’t have the luxury of hearing criticism and adjusting their course, because these shows were taped months (over a year now!) before anyone saw them. This is one of those episodes that felt strangely like it broke thru the time barrier, as if they in 2016 traveled forward in time to 2017, heard people complaining about all the interference in recent episodes, and went back to 2016 to very specifically fix it. In reality, I think they must do a good bit of self-criticism (and maybe listening to some Temple regulars) to figure this stuff out. A big part of why this episode worked was that neccesary correction, that purposeful decision to keep the run-ins out of the matches. They still got the same stuff over – and the Mundo/Mysterio build was better for the way they had done it instead of Worldwide Underground just costing someone a match – but they did it while getting out of the way of the matches.

This was a great week to get out of the way of the matches! Pindar/Fenix was good and Pindar/Fenix was clearly the third best match on the show. I had a little bit higher hopes for it and it didn’t breakout Pindar (that went to someone else!) but got to show a lot more than he had leading into this point. He was finally a luchador who could do some nice stuff, not just Reptile Goon #2, and that’s important progress. He also meshed as well with Fenix as expected, and the double knee drop at the end looked devastating. There’s definitely more there if they go back to it, and I hope they do.

just screaming at this point

Johnny Mundo/Dragon Azteca was even more successful. It hearkened back to those first season Mundo vs X showcase matches, where someone new-ish would push Mundo for about 8 minutes in a fun match before he could put them down. Mundo’s more aggressive as a rudo and controlled a lot of the first few minutes, but Azteca pulled off super move after super move in rallying back. I don’t know that they ever quite got the point where Mundo ever felt truly in trouble, but Azteca showed more in this match than any one prior to it. The post match angle with Dominic was really well done; they probably didn’t need to spend more time on building that Rey/Mundo match, but this was the most effective thing they’ve done.

One of the most memorable moments of this episode was one of the few things which didn’t go well. The Temple crowd was so loud all show long, but so quiet when Killshot came out and dropped their guy Dante Fox. Because Dante really was the Lucha Underground Temple’s guy at that point. It’s tough to credit this as a breakout performance when Fox is breaking out every single match he’s in of late, but he looked every bit as good as Prince Puma in this match. And Prince Puma looked every bit as good anyone in the world this match. This was incredible fast and fluid and dangerous and impressive all at once, a match that you have to see to believe. It was just under 11 minutes, flew by, and packed in twice as much stuff in that time. Fox was so unbelievably good that he turned both the fans and the announcers away from the intended story (Dark Puma’s darkness is making him impossible to beat) into just rooting for Dante Fox to pull off the impossible upset. They really shouldn’t have been surprised as the reaction to Killshot, the last few moments of this match was Dante Fox heroically to keep going in the face of incredible punishment. Maybe the really great thing is they didn’t give Dante Fox the win quite yet, because a big part of the future should be Dante finally getting these sorts of wins.

The other vignettes were fine. The comedy around Jack being unable to talk with his mouth wired show was good (if a little hurt because he actually had his mouth wired shut.) I’m glad they finally got some plots touched on. The downbeat note is the reveal of three Medallions being given out next week. Nothing says the season is starting to wind down than Medallions being quickly handed in time to have a Gift of the Gods match as part of Ultima Lucha 3. The reality is there’s still plenty of episodes left, but I don’t even want to think about the end after a show like this.

just incredible

great match roundup, week of 2017-07-15

Dante Fox over the post

stuff I watched in this “week”

The Crash isn’t listed below but I did update the MOTYC so it’s thrown in there.

This is generally another week where there’s no reason to watch the Monday/Tuesday shows and yet I did for some reason. I think I probably underrated the Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero match but it’s nothing I’m going to think about the end of the year so it doesn’t much matter.

Recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Prince Puma vs PJ Black [Cueto Cup] and [8f] Lucha Underground: 2017-07-19 2016-05-14
good Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana © vs Aerostar, Drago, Raptor for the AAA World Trios Championship AAA Nuevo Laredo Junio 19 2017 El Poder del Norte vs Drago, Aerostar y Raptor (posted by Luis Ordonez) AAA Worldwide desde Nuevo Laredo Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Julio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-15 2017-06-19
good Dante Fox vs Son of Havoc [Cueto Cup] and [8f] Lucha Underground: 2017-07-19 2016-05-14
good Blue Panther Jr. & The Panther vs Puma & Tiger LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-21 2017-07-21
good Blue Panther vs Sam Adonis in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-21 2017-07-21
good Carístico, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone vs Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush in a relevos increíbles match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-21 2017-07-21
good Copa Natalia Vazquez LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-21 2017-07-21
good Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-21 2017-07-21

Other matches watched

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Marty Martinez vs Texano Jr. AAA Nuevo Laredo Junio 19 2017 Texano vs Marty The Moth (posted by Luis Ordonez) AAA Worldwide desde Nuevo Laredo Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Julio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-15 2017-06-19
ok Big Mami & Niño Hamburguesa vs Lady Shani & Venum for the AAA World Mixed Tag Team Championship AAA Worldwide desde Nuevo Laredo Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Julio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-15 2017-06-19
ok Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria © vs Hernandez & Máscara de Bronce for the AAA World Tag Team ChampionshipAAA Worldwide desde Nuevo Laredo Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Julio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-15 2017-06-19
ok Black Tiger & Meyer vs Fuerza Chicana & Rey ApocalipsisLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-17 2017-07-17
ok Astro, Shockercito, Último Dragóncito vs Joker, Pequeño Nitro, Pierrothito LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-17 2017-07-17
ok Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-17 2017-07-17
ok Carístico, Diamante Azul, Euforia vs Mistico, Pierroth, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-17 2017-07-17
ok Último Guerrero © vs Niebla Roja for the NWA World Middleweight Championship LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-17 2017-07-17
ok Angelito & Fantasy vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-18 2017-07-18
ok Flyer, Príncipe Diamante, Robin vs Akuma, Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-18 2017-07-18
ok Fuego, Oro Jr., Pegasso vs Disturbio, Nitro, Sangre AztecaDisturbio Cmll Arena México CDMX 18.07.2017 (posted by Princesa Dorada) Disturbio Cmll Arena México CDMX 18.07.2017 (posted by Princesa Dorada) LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-18 2017-07-18
ok Johnny Idol vs Vangellys in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-18 2017-07-18
ok Rey Cometa, Titán, Valiente vs Gran Guerrero, Hechicero, Negro Casas LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-18 2017-07-18
ok Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Mistico vs Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 18 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-18 2017-07-18
below average Astral, Lestat, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Hijo del Signo, King Jaguar, Sangre Azteca LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 17 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-17 2017-07-17
not rated Cage vs Pindar [Cueto Cup] and [8f] Lucha Underground: 2017-07-19 2016-05-14


Lucha Underground, La Llave de la Gloria Stage 4, Angel de Oro still champ

Bucanero tried

CMLL (TUE) 08/01/2017 Arena México [Ovaciones]
1) Apocalipsis & Inquisidor b Bengala & Magia Blanca LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 1º DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
CMLL recap lists Espiritu Negro in the match, photos show Inquisidor (moved down!) to replace him.
2) Fantasy, Stukita, Último Dragóncito b Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Violencia LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 1º DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 1/3
3) El Consejo, Oro Jr., Star Jr. b Arkángel de la Muerte, Luciferno, Metálico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 1º DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Luciferno replaced Inquisidor. Tecnicos took 1/3.
4) Drone, Fuego, Stigma b Misterioso Jr., Raziel, Sangre Azteca LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 1º DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Sagrado was announced, but double booked. The preview listed Misterioso in the spot. Tecnicos took 1/3.
5) Mistico, Stuka Jr., Valiente b Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 1º DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 1/3.
6) Ángel de Oro © b Rey Bucanero [CMLL MIDDLELUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 1º DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Angel de Oro took 2/3. first defense.

The main event look good from what I saw and the rest of the show lived down to exceptions. I haven’t heard it for myself yet, but it sounded like the CMLL announcers went with the idea that El Consejo is a new young person, even though he’s dressed in Nitro’s gear and looks exactly like 50 year old Nitro.

CMLL changed Saturday’s lineup to have Chamuel (evil small clown) instead of Chico Temido (blond mohawk) in the micros match, begging the question: Did CMLL book the wrong little person? Note that they had Nitro and Consejo booked on shows at the same time.

In the same vein: Stukita will be headed to women’s wrestling promotion REINA on 08/15. They’re doing male matches in the openers on those shows because they don’t really have enough women left to do a women’s only card, and Stukita will also be working a Fukumenmanía card on the 17th.

CMLL’s website has interviwes with Blue Panther & Sam Adonis. Adonis claims he’s got a friend in Texas who owns a farm, and Sam will talk to his farmer friend about giving Panther a job after he ends his wrestling career on Friday night. What a generous man. Univision is airing a piece on Sam Adonis this Saturday. Blue Panther says he’s looking forward to the crowd chanting Si Se Puede after he wins on Friday. I do wonder how that crowd is going to react if Adonis wins on Friday, if it moves from mostly booing the over the top rudo because it’s fun to mostly being actually seriously upset.

Lucha Underground

Lucha Underground tonight is episode 29, “The Hunger Inside”. Matches announced for the show

  • Fenix vs Pindar in a Cueto Cup quarterfinal
  • Dante Fox vs Prince Puma in a Cueto Cup quarterfinal
  • Johnny Mundo vs El Dragon Azteca Jr.

The preview also mentions catching up with the Dario/Matanza relationship, checking in Captain Vasquez (who hasn’t been on the show in months) and Marty messing with Melissa some more.

The Azteca/Mundo match fits the same mold of all the Cueto Cup quarterfinals: one guy who’s been near the top of Lucha Underground for about the entire run versus one guy who’s come in later and been stuck on the third tier of guys looking for a breakout match. “El Dragon Azteca Jr.” should be an important character in the mythos of Lucha Underground but has been mostly been portrayed as hapless and hot headed sidekick for a couple seasons. His role in the plot and the possible departures of others makes it likely he’ll be leaned on a lot more in any possible future seasons, and he could use a strong performance to get him going again.

If you’re a person who watched AAA when Steve Pain was around, and know that Pindar is Steve Pain, you’re probably pretty excited for that quarterfinal. If you’re the vast majority of people, you’re somewhat surprised about the fourth most important person in the Reptile Tribe making it this far with no discernible character traits. A recent Lucha of the Hidden Table mentioned Cage was having some knee problems at this point, which was the reason the Cage/Pindar match was so short, and maybe the reason why Pindar is wrestling Fenix while Cage gets some time on the sidelines. Hopefully, Pindar gets to make something out of this opportunity.

As far as I can tell, the last time Prince Puma & Dante Fox had a match was 2014 in China for WWN Live. (WrestlingData has their matchups but also spoils the result here.)

On the Way 2 Real podcast this past week, Justin Harvey of the MMM Podcast mentioned his sources say it’s actually MGM who owns the rights to distribute Lucha Underground in the US, not Lucha Libre FMV or El Rey. His version, which probably comes from people who work directly in the production side of Lucha Underground, is MGM is actually selling the rights to the show back to El Rey. I’d always understood it the other way, that El Rey owned the show and MGM just had the international rights. It’s an importance difference – it’d mean that if El Rey doesn’t pick up LU S4, MGM would be free to take the show to another US network.

Edit: I got the general sense of it correct but the details not quite; should’ve listened again before writing. The correct idea is MGM does not have the LU US rights now , but those rights would revert back to MGM should El Rey not agree to renew by a cut off date and MGM would be free to try and sell them elsewhere and may or may not have any success doing so.

Finding networks willing to pick up wrestling shows has been tough for TNA/GFW/Impact (and LU has some content that might be a bigger concern to other networks), but almost any other network would be carried by more providers than El Rey.

This is deep dark guessing at LU future, but – as Justin alludes to – could explain what’s the hold up with the renewal. MGM wants $X per season now, El Rey wants to pay something less than X, and the two sides might be having a staring contest until they get close enough to the drop dead date and a deal gets done. A wrestling only company might be more eager to take what El Rey’s offering because they need to keep the running, but a corporation like MGM isn’t going to be affected to wait six more months if it means they get paid a bit more in the end. This is all assuming is Justin right, which, no slight meant to anyone, but no one person saying something on the internet should be held up as the definite truth of what’s going on.

Ivelisse, who has said some things on the Twitter deal recently that have not exactly been correct, says “filming is resuming soon” in a plug to book her on shows. I think that’s probably just trying to get some urgency in getting bookings, but I’m putting it here just in case it turns out Ivelisse knew it first. I credit everyone here.

Wrestle Corner interviewed Vampiro, which is totally delightful if you want to hear Vampiro explain the history of Japanese wrestling. It was taped as San Diego Comic Con so you maybe can read into something he was saying. He says it was Dorian who called him to work for Lucha Underground way back when.

Lucha Underground Season 2 starts on SamuraiTV this Friday.

La Llave a La Gloria

AAA announced Vendaval, Arabe Jr., Rocky Lobo, Delirius, S/N, Celestial, Cosmico, Pequeno Talisman, Chicano, Dragon del Baijo as the winners of their Round 4 La Llave a la Gloria tryout. Some of these are familiar: Rocky Lobo is overqualified to be involved, having just been on Elite TV last year with experience in NOAH & Dragon Gate – Rocky was even in the 2012 AAA Quien Pinta Por La Corona contest, where he advanced out of Puebla but did not win. Celestial, Cosmico and Pequeno Talisman are the Perros del Mal minis. Chicano is the occasion IWRG luchador who’s based in Chihuahua.

The other names are a bit obscure. There’s a Vendaval around Mexico City, but I suspect this is the one who wrestles in Tabasco. Arabe Jr. is long time early match wrestler in La Laguna, but hasn’t shown up yet on the AMLL channel. (He’s in this match on Facebook.) Delirius wrestles in Queretaro, but there’s not many new videos from there. I have nothing in the database for a Dragon del Baijo, and S/N is literally “sin nombre”; they put his registration number up there so he would know he won, but his identity is a mystery to everyone else.

If we count the people who have appeared in La Llave de la Gloria matches on TV tapings but haven’t actually been listed as finalists in tapings, I believe they’re at 65 people. Even that number is suspect, because there’s obviously another way into the tournament (training with someone associated with AAA?) and we don’t know exactly how many people will get in that way. And maybe some of the people who advanced thru tryout don’t make it to the final for some reason or another. I’m going to go with “there’s a lot of people left.”

The final stage is August 12 at Arena Naucalpan. It starts at 9AM, so it must be an all day thing.

Other AAA Things

Leo Riano’s column says it’s a 99% chance TripleMania airs on Televisa. Riano also seems to praise the idea of TripleMania being on the same night as a big boxing show but thinks CMLL should avoid being on the same night as a big boxing show, so I dunno.

EN+CARADOS, +LuchaTV’s podcast, had Lady Shani, el Caifan, Dr. Cerbero, and Hijo de Dos Caras. It’s pretty easy to root for Lady Shani based on some of her comments on this podcast, and there’d be some sound reasons for her to beat Sexy Star: TripleMania is a great place to make a new star and Sexy Star needs some in-house opponents with some credibility. They could even do a double turn, since Sexy Star seems to want to be a tecnica and Shani would rather be a ruda. There’s absolutely zero chance Shani’s going to win; the goal here seems not to be “put on matches people would be interested in seeing” but actually “keep Sexy Star happy”.

On the same podcast, Hijo de Dos Caras said AAA invited Alberto to TripleMania, but he doesn’t think Alberto is going. Alberto himself said he was going last month, so something changed. AAA and Alberto have had a rocky relationship, so it’s not necessarily the recent airport incident, could be any number of things.

Arena Queretaro seems to have sold out for the AAA/TAO show.

Other Things

Alberto el Patron wants you to know that he was a much bigger star than his uncle ever was. OK. He’s also retiring in two years, where two years is not a fixed amount of time.

Queretaro luchador Brujo Maya passed away on Monday. He was only 25. Cause of death isn’t mentioned. Brujo Maya was Canek’s nephew and the son of local luchador Perro del Ring.

In Arena Aficion, Nemesis & Cadillac won the X-LAW Tag Team titles from Aeroboy & Rey Gato and Mini Psycho Clown kept the AAA minis title over Concord.

DTU’s July shows are showing up, in some form, on Smark Mark Video in the US. There’s a trailer up for them and it mentions four shows – maybe it’s full shows, maybe it’s just the GCW matches? It’s coming soon.

Ciclope & Miedo Extremo debut for GCW in New Jersey on 09/16, as part of the DTU/GCW talent sharing. Aeroboy & Drastick Boy are working the ChilangaMask copromoted shows that same weekend and there’s the (Cicero) Chicago show with Hijo del Santo and others that Sunday. I’m kind of surprised how many luchadors are working outside of Mexico that weekend, but I suspect that’s all about the economic differences.

The latest Lucha Talk is up.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

Segunda Caida reviews King Cuerno vs Mil Muertes from Ultima Lucha 2.


IWRG (SUN) 08/06/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Celestial vs Lunatic Xtreme
2) Fly Tiger & Shaolin vs Demonio Infernal & Diablo Jr.
3) Mike & Teelo vs Argos & Dr. Karonte Jr.
4) Bombero Infernal, Freelance, Hijo del Alebrije vs Eterno, Kempo Jr., Monaguillo
5) Black Dragón vs Gallo Frances
6) Herodes Jr., Hijo del Pantera, Internacional Pantera vs Emperador Azteca, Golden Magic, Hijo De Dos Caras
7) Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan vs Black Warrior & Warrior Jr.

These cards getting longer is something I only think about because AYM typically will only tape the last four matches. We’ll never get to see who wins between a Ninja Turtle and a Caristico Brother. Warrior Jr. getting a main event probably years because he’s ready simply because his father is there.

CMLL (TUE) 08/08/2017 Arena México
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia
2) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Sanely vs La Seductora, Metálica, Tiffany
3) Rey Cometa vs Forastero [lightning]
4) Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Ephesto, Felino, Luciferno
5) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Titán vs Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
6) Mistico, Rush, Valiente vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

This is a better card than last night, you can start watching about 40 minutes in. I thought this might be Forastero’s first singles match here but he had one back in November against Fuego. Rush booked as a tecnico because they actually believe that’s the side he belongs on.

CMLL (TUE) 08/08/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno vs Frezzer & Furia Roja
2) Príncipe Diamante, Starman, Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Disturbio, Inquisidor
3) Lady Maravilla, Silueta, Skadi vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
4) Blue Panther, Johnny Idol, Stuka Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Sam Adonis
5) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Pierroth

No results from last night, but Volador, Diamante Azul & Euforia are the carry overs from that main event so the feud’s in there somewhere. Diamante Azul brings the Occidente Heavyweight Championship with him in every match but has not defended it since May of 2014 – and I think everyone pointed it out when he was in the Universal tournament, so perhaps they’re getting on it.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-07-18 

Gran Guerrero puts a stop to Titan

Recapped: 07/20/2017

All matches aired live from Arena Mexico


Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia beat Angelito & Fantasy
(11:56 [4:41, 3:43, 3:32], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Akuma, Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico beat Flyer, Príncipe Diamante, Robin  
(15:42 [6:15, 3:15, 6:12], 1/3, ok, via 

Fuego, Oro Jr., Pegasso beat Disturbio, Nitro, Sangre Azteca
(10:51 [3:06, 3:41, 4:04], 2/3, ok, via

Vangellys beat Johnny Idol in a lightning match
(5:41, northern lights suplex, ok, via

Gran Guerrero, Hechicero, Negro Casas beat Rey Cometa, Titán, Valiente
(13:06 [5:05, 3:42, 4:19], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Terrible beat Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Mistico
(13:23 [5:16, 2:17, 5:50], 1/3, ok, via

What happened: 

Angelito frog splash

Rey Bucanero started a feud with Angel de Oro in the main event.

Johnny Idol clearly had his foot on the ropes on the finishing northern lights suplex pin. CMLL referees are usually reluctant to count pins if someone’s not completely down, but the referee ignored the foot on the ropes here. Idol made sure to point it out, even though it felt like the finish and that he was not actually supposed to do that.

This opener was Angelito’s return after being gone for more than a year. Angelito took a package piledriver from Mercurio as the finish to the opener and went in spasms. They cut away from the ring for a long time and Angelico was quickly being stretchered out when they came back. There was no update and the fans and the promotion treated it like it was nothing important. He continued on with his normal schedule.


Pegasso special

Easy show to skip.

The main event was sufficient if not special. Mistico & Caristico are a fun team. I’m interested if Rey Bucanero will be as good with Angel de Oro as he was with Hechicero (which seems unlikely when I type it like that.) You can skip this though.

The semimain has good pace, good action, and people trying. Even if wasn’t the best action, you had them looking good and trying new things. Rey Cometa’s frogsplash is looking better. His spot with Hechicero getting flipped onto the guardrail chest first. This was a fun match on a show with not much fun on it.

Johnny Idol was a better opponent than Pierroth for Vangellys, and it’s not like he or Vangellys were much better. They were just both competent and able to go for longer than three minutes at stretch, so it’s was a setup from the hair match.

Gran Guerrero toss

It’s hard to care about a match with Nitro & Sangre Azteca. Fuego & Pegasso did look good in their runs, Oro treated his win like a big deal, but it’s quickly forgettable.

Arkangel is one of the least fun guys to watch. He’s not good and he’s not good for a long time, as his matches always seem to go longer. Robin and Flyer’s matching Super Sky Team (Sombra/Volador era) gear looked god, and the second fall finished well. I kind of wonder what Akuma would turn into outside this environment. This one of the matches where looked useful but it’s going to be tough for him to get better in these matches.

The minis match was better than usual because of Angelito being back. He had a good fall two and three, and was looking to make an impression. The third fall seemed like it ended early.

Mercurio celebrates a superkick quite a bit

CMLL Puebla: 2017-07-17 

clothesline versus spinning forearm

Recapped: 07/18/2017

All matches aired live from on Arena Puebla


Fuerza Chicana & Rey Apocalipsis beat Black Tiger & Meyer
(18:34 [9:37, 3:41, 5:16], 2/3, ok, via 

Joker, Pequeño Nitro, Pierrothito beat Astro, Shockercito, Último Dragóncito
(13:34 [5:30, 4:08, 3:56], 2/3, ok, via

Hijo del Signo, King Jaguar, Sangre Azteca beat Astral, Lestat, Tigre Rojo Jr.

(14:29 [6:34, 3:08, 4:47], 1/3, below average, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Stuka Jr. went to a draw with Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(13:54 [3:41, 4:51, 5:22], 1-1-1 draw, ok, via

Carístico, Diamante Azul, Euforia beat Mistico, Pierroth, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match
(11:30 [4:22, 7:08], 1/2, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Último Guerrero © beat Niebla Roja for the NWA World Middleweight Championship
(15:14 [3:11, 1:04, 10:59], 2/3, ok, via 

  1. Niebla Roja roll thru plancha (3:11)

  2. Último Guerrero Pulpo Guerrero (1:04)

  3. Ultimo Guerrero Guerrero Special (10:59)

What happened: 

Dragoncito dive

Ultimo Guerrero defeated Niebla Roja to retain the NWA Middlweight Championship.

Mistico replaced Rush in the main event. Caristico had been feuding with Rush, so he feuded with Volador again and Volador unasked him for the DQ. Carístico asked for one more fall. He did not get one more fall.

In the fourth match, the the usual tower of doom bit for near falls and actually got three counts. Luciferno & Ephesto had Angel de Oro & Stigma pinned at the same time Stuka splashed Mephisto. No one kicked out, and that combination of pinfalls meant the match was a draw. They kind of set up a rematch for next week.

Pierrohito challenged Shockercito to a title match, which explained why Shockercito actually had his title belt.


Pierroth is very tough on his own

Not great matches, though some weirdness with finishes and people playing different roles.

Ultimo Guerrero just went thru a shorter version of his usual match, stripping out a few of the spots but still doing the usual thing. I wanted to see more out of Niebla Roja, but he didn’t really show that much more and the crowd was more into Ultimo Guerrero. They did tease an idea of Niebla Roja out smarting UG early on and last week, but didn’t follow thru in a way to make it meaningful.

The semimain was fun for being absurd: it was just as weird to see Mistico being evil as Euforia being heroic. Diamante Azul and Pierroth got totally lost at one point, and Volador was screwing around with this, but it was still fine as a different match than usual.

Lestat cut down

The Hijos del Infierno match was the best energy match of the night, even while being routine. Someone in this rudo group – maybe Mephisto – has decided to pick up the weird finish torch from Blue Panther and Averno and more weird is always appreciated.

The tercera was an exceedingly boring rudo squash, compounded by the second fall finish being screwed up. The rudos were DQed for being in the ring too long, which didn’t seem a planned finish, and the tecnicos were cost a comeback from it.

Astro’s really good, but even here it felt like he didn’t get to show it as much in the minis. The rest of the guys were just doing the same things they do on other shows, but not as much of it. Joker didn’t feel as big part of the match as usual, and it usually takes the local guys having a strong night to make an early match worth watching.

The opener had some action but was slow and awkward and times.

Rey Apocalipsis claps for his own spot