CMLL (SUN) 10/02/2016Arena México [CMLL, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Akuma & Apocalipsis b Flyer & Sensei
2) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Skadi b Amapola, La Seductora, Reyna Isis Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso b Disturbio, Okumura, Virus Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. b Dragón Rojo Jr., Gran Guerrero, Pólvora Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. DQ Kráneo, Shocker, Terrible Tecnicos took 2/3. Shocker fouled Marco.
Usual Sunday show, far less noteworthy than other stuff going on.
I’ll do the full AAA post tomorrow, after the dust settles a bit, but the obvious big story is Alberto el Patron not appearing in his match. About an hour after it happened, AAA sent out a press release blaming Alberto. They claim to have confirmed Alberto as coming as recently as Sunday morning and blame him for his lack of professionalism. Alberto had been promoting the show as recently as two days ago, and has said nothing as of this writing. AAA’s press release phrasing suggests Alberto did not get lost or disappear, but willfully decided to not appear. There had been rumors today of Alberto showing up in TNA instead, but he did not appear to be there either tonight. (TNA will be taping all week in Orlando, so it’s still possible he could appear with them later on.)
No one’s saying exactly what happened. The only clear thing is whatever AAA was offering to Alberto, it wasn’t enough for him to actually come to the show, because he didn’t appear. I don’t know if Alberto and AAA had a disagreement over money at the last second, or if Alberto just decided there were other things he’d prefer to be doing. Whatever the reason, it’s pretty glaring that he didn’t have his own side of the story ready to put out there when he decided not make it to this show. Alberto’s asking a lot of money to work shows now, and it’s going to be harder for him to find that money if promoters believe he might just choose not to show up.
Alberto is currently being advertised for AAA’s 11/20 taping in Ciudad Juarez, and figured to be on the early December Guerra de Titanes card. AAA’s shown a willingness to continue to do business with Alberto in the past and six weeks is plenty of time for things to get fixed again. I would not count out everything getting fixed and Alberto working those shows.
We’ve seen UG/Valiente a lot, and it sounds like it went well. We haven’t seen Niebla/Maximo in a title match – it’d be Niebla’s first challenge for the heavyweight title in five years.
Hard to understand a) how Bandido was listed on this card if he’s been exiled to Elite, b) how no one figured it out by the time it was time to write the preview and c) how they didn’t have a tecnico guy there ready to replace Bandido.
Today, with a listed 6pm start time, is AAA’s tenth Heroes Inmortales. I didn’t end up writing a preview for this show when it turned out not to be a PPV, but it’s still going thru the matches quickly:
7) El Patrón Alberto & Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Pagano
Alberto sent in an instagram promo where he didn’t mention anyone else in the match. There’s a decent chance the first Pagano match he’ll see is the one he’s in. That’ll be a treat. Alberto’s advertised in Juarez, so he’s probably going to be on Guerra de Titanes as well, and this should be about setting up a match for that show.
6) Australian Suicide vs Daga [mask, hair, street fight]
The outcome will be no surprise. It’s really just a chance for these two guys to have a memorable match. It’s hard to move up here even with an impressive outing, but there are spots opened higher up on the card and maybe this will help one of them get there.
Probably heated and definitely with a lot of Monterrey silliness. AAA could make Garza a much bigger deal nationally with a win, but it seems too early in Mundo’s run for him to give up this title. I’d like to see Pentagon get the rematch too, though Alberto challenging next would give him an opponent he likes and a possible title win without messing with the top match.
4) Hijo del Fantasma, La Parka, Texano Jr. vs ??, ???, El Mesías
A match! It’ll be alright. I think we’re going to look back and figure out this show should’ve been blowoff to the Team Trump stuff, but it’s tough to do when half the Team Trump is (apparently) not going to be there. (Cage is in the UK, not sure where Hernandez is going to be.) AAA’s done nothing to set up this match. As much as I like Fantasma & Texano, it’ll probably be OK if they skip it for TV.
3) El Apache, Faby Apache, Mary Apache vs Averno, Chessman, Ricky Marvin
The OGT were surprisingly strong in the first match and should continue to be so; they’re going for the trios title next judging by the lineups. The only question is if the Apaches will squeak out a win to make it a three team feud.
2) Zorro vs El Elegido, Pimpinela Escarlata, Niño Hamburguesa, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 [Copa Antonio Pena]
This seems like one of the more interesting matches live, because I have no idea who can show up (and it’s the one time where I’d be disappointed not see Konnan Big.) Marty the Moth is in town, as is Vampiro, so there’s probably some Lucha Underground participation. Note that even their match at TripleMania didn’t air, so there’s no reason to suspect those guys will be any more over this time and I’m not sure throwing them out there with no build in a battle royal will help their situation. AAA just needs bodies, I suppose.
There’s no great reason for Aerostar & Drago so quick, unless AAA is determined to have rudo/rudo-ish challenges for Jack & Angelico whenever they return to challenge. There is, however, a balancing act going of trying to build up the people who aren’t in LU by having them get big wins. The Clowns don’t seem like they’re going to LA any time soon and have been a bit out in the cold with Psycho Clown moving up. They could end up with the belts to keep them going.
This week’s AAA TV is up. The show has a new graphics package starting this week. They also announced a 11/04 taping in Aguascalientes. 11/20 Juarez is already announced, so they’re just missing the December tapings to close the year.
CMLL posted photos of Dragon Lee in Ring of Honor. Dragon Lee defeated Bobby Fish in a non-title match on Saturday’s taping (which looked to be for week 3 of the set), so he’ll be owed a title shot at some other occasion.
El Grafico catches up with Sepultura, who says he’s been held in jail 13 years for a kidnapping he didn’t commit.
CMLL (FRI) 09/30/2016Arena México [CMLL, CultIcon, ESTO,thecubsfan]
1) Astral & Demus 3:16 b Shockercito & Último Dragóncito 11:58. Tecnicos took 1/3. Astral replaced Pierrothito
2) Lluvia, Sanely, Silueta b Dalys, Reyna Isis, Tiffany 16:26. Tecnicas took 1/3.
3) Bobby Z, Hechicero, Vangellys b Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, Titán 17:11. Rudos took 2/3.
4) Johnny Idol, Marco Corleone, Máximo Sexy b Ephesto, Mephisto, Niebla Roja 12:17. Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Euforia, La Máscara, Último Guerrero b Carístico, Mistico, Valiente 11:59. Rudos took 1/3.
6) Cavernario DQ Volador Jr. [Reyes del Aire] 20:20. Volador took fall 1, Cavernario the second, Cavernario tricked Volador into fouling Tirantes, Volador submitted Cavernario, and Tirantes awarded the match to Cavernario. Volador wanted a hair match, Cavernario agreed to a title match.
Main event had all the moves and was exciting near the end, but the finish came off badly (for the second straight week.) Next week’s title match should be good, though it’s hard to figure out what they’ve got left to top themselves. Attendance seemed better than usual, or at least more casual fans than usual based on the reactions.
Dragon Lee beat Kamaitachi on ROH’s PPV last night, and he’ll face ROH TV champion Bobby Fish on the TV tapings. (It was immediately clear if it was a title match.)
ELITE (FRI) 09/30/2016 Gimnasio Benito Juárez, Cuautitlán, Estado de México
1) Hijo del Pantera & Mr. Leo b Luzbel & Tanque Infernal
2) Imposible & Peligro b Ciclón Ramírez Jr. & León Dorado Jr.
3) Decnnis, Mr. Águila, Zumbido b Emperador Azteca, Intocable, Toscano Intocable said he’d rather be a rudo.
4) Xtreme Tiger DQ Cibernético [Liga Elite] Cibernetico got himself DQed with a martiente. Cibernetico attacked the ref and explained he hoped the ref would be paralyzed for calling the DQ.
5) Rey Escorpión & Silver King b El Bandido & Golden Magic Bandido replaced Caristico. Rudos won in straight falls.
6) Blue Demon DQ LA Park [Liga Elite] LA Park was DQed by the commission. Bloody match.
Results seemed to drift off at the end; not sure if they held up the show in hope for Caristico to show up (he was doing post match interviews, so didn’t appear to be in a hurry) or if everyone just got bored. Main event sounds like LA Park doing his brawling match, and crowd was up from last week. Arena Neza is a tough place to draw. This week’s show will air tonight.
The rest of the Arena Coliseo show today has Valiente versus Ultimo Guerrero for Guerrero’s NWA middleweight championship. The preview claims Valiente is obsessed with winning this title. Someone has to be, because CMLL keeps on booking it. This is his third shot in a year, and it doesn’t seem any more likely to be a title change. The semimain is Atlantis, Maximo, Titan versus Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas. The rest of the show isn’t very promising.
AAA’s TV show airs an hour early today, at 4pm CT.
Lucha Memes said they were rebooking matches on their 10/23 show because CMLL had pulled wrestlers to work in NJPW instead. The only CMLL wrestler announced so far was Titan (to face Sammy Guevara), although it usually seems like most of the card is worked it well in advance (so their could be other people pulled.) The NJPW tour that fits is 10/21-11/05, and they’d probably announce the participants after their 10/10 show.
Publimetro writes about the recent Hija de Karonte/Panthro incident. Back on the 18th in Nuevo Leon, there was a mixed tag match between Panthro Sr. & Panthro Jr. vs Karonte & Hija de Karonte. (That’s a father/son team versus a father/daughter team.) Karonte was holding Panthro Sr. while Hija de Karonte was slapping him, and Panthro wasn’t selling all that much. Panthro got free, slapped Hija de Karonte, and Hija de Karonte collapsed right after. The report says she wasn’t knocked out but did faint. There was some conversation about this in Mexico (and on Facebook) the last week, about man/woman violence and if Panthro was being unprofessional.
Same deal with this title match as many of the recent ones: a title change would mess up the CMLL Universal math, but we’re also now into October and there’s not even a hint about that tournament coming so maybe it doesn’t matter. There’s 13 Fridays left this year.
Super Crazy was in Japan last night, and but is back on CMLL cards this week. Or at least he’s scheduled to be back. Women’s match being third is frustrating only because the restraints on the segunda match.
The main event, and the only match with an ongoing issue, is Cavernario versus Volador. ESTO has an interview with Volador, hyping him as the best luchador in Mexico. Volador would be a strong favorite under normal situations, and stronger more since this is a (ESTO) sponsored tournament. It should be a great match, given Cavernario’s work with other flyers in the past, even with a one sided outcome.
The semimain is supposed to have Mistico, Caristico, and Valiente versus Ultimo Guerrero, La Mascara and Euforia, though Caristico is also scheduled on the Elite show the same night. CMLL (& Elite) seem to be allowing Caristico to be booked on both shows, but they’re not making it particularly easy to keep the schedule. The Elite show will probably have to be delays, and maybe matches done out of order, if Caristico is going to make the 60-90 minute drive between the two shows.
The fourth match is Maximo, Marco Corleone and Johnny Idol vs Mr. Niebla, Mephisto and Ephesto, in the usual Maximo/Niebla comedy match. One of the previews points out Marco forgot the search for a new third member of Bufete del Amor; what the preview forgets is Maximo & Marco actually picked Idol as the new third, but CMLL didn’t bother booking them together again until now. CMLL seemed to start a Idol/Ephesto feud, which I can’t believe is a real thing. The third match is Guerrero Maya, Titan, and Rey Cometa versus Hechicero, Vangellys and Bobby Z, which should be a pretty good match. The second match teams up three of CMLL’s younger tecnicas, Sanely, Lluvia, and Silueta, taking on Dalys, Tiffany and maybe Reyna Isis. The opener is a minis match with Ultimo Dragoncito, Shockercito, Demus 3:16 and Pierroth.
That Elite taping is also tonight. The two “Liga Elite” singles matches are Blue Demon vs LA Park and Xtreme Tiger vs Cibernetico, though they’ve stopped listing standings. The second one doesn’t sound like it’s going to be so great. Demon & Park were on an Azteca sports show last night pushing their match, which can only help with attendance after last week. There’s been talk, including on the podcast last week, about showing up this Sunday on AAA’s Heroes Inmortales, but the most recent word is that’s now off.
The rest of the Elite card has Caristico & Golden Magic teaming against Rey Escorpion & Silver King (where Escorpion has repeatedly destroyed Golden Magic as a way to build up other feuds), Emperador Azteca, Intocable and Toscano versus Decnnis, Mr. Aguila & Zumbido, Ciclon Ramirez Jr. & the debuting Leon Dorado Jr. facing Imposible & Peligro, and an opener of Hijo del Pantera & Mr. Leo taking Luzbel & Tanque Infernal. Matches from the show will air Saturday night on Azteca.
Meanwhile, Dragon Lee debuts tonight in Ring of Honor, on their PPV tonight. He fights Kamaitachi once again. You can purchase the show for$35USD on Fite.TV (or PPV companies.) Dragon Lee will also wrestle on the TV tapings Saturday night, but I don’t think we’ll know the match ahead of time. I’m somewhat annoyed/frustrated/not-surprised at the lack of effort ROH’s made in building up Dragon Lee – that’s why I wrote that introduction of him for Voices of Wrestling – and I’m not convinced he’ll be treated as important as he should be on this show. The CMLL/ROH agreement feels like something being pushed on ROH, and not something they have a personal interest in – or, to be more generous, something they have an interest in but have so many other things going on of importance that it’s slipping thru the cracks.
It’s not listed on the chart, but the ROH PPV (available on FiteTV) is also Friday night, starting a half hour before the CMLL show for $35. The show will include Dragon Lee vs Kamaitachi, a match up I absolutely love. However, my concern is ROH does not share that same love. That preview on FiteTV hypes the match a lot, because it’s the filler text they used before the full card was announced, but ROH has done nothing to get unfamiliar fans excited for the show. (They’ve put out a press release and a couple Tweets, basically.) I’m sure there will be other matches that’ll be good, but it’s hard for me to invest $35 on a show if I’m concerned the match I want to see is going to be short changed, and ROH has passively indicated the match is not as important to them as it is to me. (Plus, there’s a CMLL Friday show to see too.) I know I could probably just find a stream somewhere, but what I think I’m going to do is just not get the show live, and pay for a replay if it sounds like it’s worth my time. You may be more invested than me in ROH – or more excited in general! – so I wanted to make sure you knew it was out there.
That CMLL Claro show has Cavernario/Volador, so they may very well have the best match of the night anyway. Semimian should be good with or without Caristico, but his participation will be the story. I’m back home, so I should be able to record it.
AAA will have the full Hard Rock show this week – I checked, it’s a one taping show.. There is no iPPV for Heroes Inmortales this weekend.
IWRG should be back in full this week, with an episode this weekend (reacp of the latest FILL show) and one Monday night (Trauma/Canis.)
There’s no sign of Lucha Libre Retro, though the Facebook site still seems active.
The preview for Lucha Underground gives away one match as a Dial of Doom (and the title certainly hints at Matanza’s opponent.) I believe we’re getting an Ivelisse, and another Texano/Cage match would fit seeing as they need four more of them.
CMLL (TUE) 09/27/2016Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [+LuchaTV, Martes de Glamour]
1) Explosivo & Neutrón b Mr. Apolo & Relámpago Tecnicos took 1/3. This is still the old CMLL Neutron.
2) Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely b La Seductora, Reyna Isis, Tiffany Tecnicas took 1/3
3) Esfinge, Frezzer, Pegasso b Okumura, Skándalo, Tiger Frezzer replaced Rey Cometa. Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada, Máximo Sexy b Rey Bucanero, Sam Adonis, Terrible Tecnicos took 1/3.
5) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Euforia, Negro Casas, Shocker Tecnicos took 1/3. Valiente & Volador want a tag title match.
CMLL booking is having a big Marco/Terrible blowoff match last week, and then back to fighting each other this week in the same building. This is Reyna Isis’ last match in Mexico for now; she’s leaving today for Japan, but still is booked Friday and Sunday in Arena Mexico. CMLL booking is also announcing someone for matches while also announcing they’re going to be in another country at the same time.
IWRG (WED) 09/28/2016Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Crazy León & Crazy Tiger b Águila Enmascarada & Kira
2) Charly Boy, Guerrero 2000, Vardeus b Canario, Keshin Drago, Volta
3) Keshin Black, Picudo Jr., Skanda b Fireman, Omega, Shadow Boy
4) Cadilac, Leo, Mike DQ Demetrio El Gladiador, Demonio Infernal, Hip Hop Man Hip Hop Man fouled the turtles and the referee
5) Demente Extreme, El Pachico, Fuerza Negra, Kid Jaguar, Ojo De Halcón, Pinochito, Shadow, Tromba b Alas de Acero, Aramis, Araña de Plata, Atomic Star, Black Dragón, Dragón Fly, Hijo del Alebrije, Kanon FILL (Black Terry) vs Lucha Libre Boom (Fantasma de la Opera). Match came down to Shadow, Ojo de Halcon vs Atomic Star & Black Dragon. Atomic & Halcon were eliminated, but Atomic came back in and betrayed Black Dragon to give team Lucha Libre Boor the win. Team IWRG to the worst of the post match brawl.
Jack feels the AAA TV hasn’t has been very bad since Konnan left and, with an apology to Dorian Roldan, the company was being booked 100 times better when Konnan was in charge. Jack misses Konnan’s creative idea, but also his communication. Before, he (and others) could give ideas to Konnan and maybe they’d be used but they’d at least there would be an effort and maybe you’d get feedback. Now, they give ideas to the office, the office says OK, and then they never hear about it again or know if it was even being tried. Jack also says losing Konnan has cost them international opportunities, since Konnan had all those contacts and deals. Jack’s critical of how much AAA charges for talent (on top of what the talent gets), feeling AAA would make more money if they charged less because the wrestlers would get booked far more often.
Jack praises AAA La Parka in a roundabout way: Parka is not athletic, and is one of the worst luchadors (Jack means this with no disrespect), but Parka is so entertaining that it doesn’t matter and the crowd still pays to see him. Those kind of experiences has taught Jack he’s got to be expressive and entertaining. Jack also mentions there were plans for him to have have matches with Perro Aguayo Jr. and Pentagon, but both got canceled. He got replaced by Cibernetico in the Perro feud, which he understood, but the Pentagon was more “here we go again.” There’s much more in the interview, including Jack’s thoughts on why Fenix left and the Ricochet/Ospreay match, but you should check it out yourself.
AAA JAPAN (WED) 10/26/2016Korakuen Hall, Tokyo, Japan
1) Dinastía, Faby Apache, Kenzo, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Mamba, Mini Abismo Negro, Sumire Natsu, Toshizo
2) Angélico & Jack Evans vs Ikuto Hidaka & Masato Tanaka
3) Drago vs Aerostar vs Taiji Ishimori
4) Daga & Taya vs Aja Kong & Australian Suicide
5) Psycho Clown vs Pagano
6) Akebono, Marufuji, Rey Mysterio Jr. vs Brian Cage, Pentagón Jr., Texano Jr.
AAA & Ouduo announced this late last night. The main event is suitably bizarre for this kind of mash up. Matches two and three should probably pretty good and unique for the occasion. Daga teaming with Perros del Mal traitor Taya doesn’t quite make sense, but it’s what happens when you have a limited amount of people you can bring to Japan (and when you’ve decided you’re absolutely not going to put Taya and Faby in the same match anymore, which sure appears to be the situation.)
Prince Puma beat Siniestro de la Muerte (4:50, flatliner, good)
Pentagon Jr. defeated Cortez Castro (1:05, package piledriver, NR)
Johnny Mundo, Taya, PJ Black, Jack Evans beat Aerostar, Drago, Fenix, Sexy Star (8:52, Jack Evans backslide Sexy Star, good)
Dragon Azteca beat Chavo Guerrero (7:41, huracanrana, OK)
This week was another episode of building storylines. The biggest match coming is clearly Mil Muertes versus Prince Puma, and it got a little closer tonight. Prince Puma defeated Siniestro de la Muerte in a mostly one sided opener, using Mil’s own move to win, then dived onto Mil in the post match (after Mil had tried and completely failed to interfere.) This turned out to be Siniestro’s “retirement” match, as Catrina snapped the Disciple’s neck later in the show, sucked his (and maybe the others) life force out of him, and passed it on to an even stronger and even more angry Mil Muertes.
We didn’t see Catrina’s amulet, but other parts of that story moved on. Cortez Castro returned to the temple, when he was met with a hug from Dario Cueto. Dario vowed to Cueto that they’d avenge Mr. Cisco and find his real killer. Dario also insisted the show go on, sending Castro directly to the ring to be mauled by Pentagon. Pentagon looking at Vampiro didn’t hold him back this week, and he even broke Cortez’s arm at the end. Cortez really should know his cover is blown at this point, but we don’t know how he’ll respond. Pentagon declared he’d destroy whoever won the chance to face him next
Dario was not as busy as last week, but still got around a bit. He ran into Sexy Star in the (female?) locker room, wondering outloud while Sexy Star hasn’t cashed in her opportunity yet. Sexy Star said she wasn’t scared, but Dario advised her to stick to defending the Gift of the Gods belt and not get in the ring with Matanza. Speaking of defending that title, Mundo happened upon Sexy and made it clear he’s coming for the belt. However, it was Jack Evans who got the pin over Sexy Star in the atomicos match, thanks to an unseen Mundo superkick. Taya was injured at the end of the match, and carried off after it.
The main event went straight to form. Rey Mysterio was a fair ref until Chavo made the mistake of attacking him, Rey punched Chavo into a Dragon Azteca huracanrana for the win, then hit Chavo with a 619 after the match. Dragon Azteca earned a shot against Pentagon Jr., but Pentagon has more people to worry about. A closing vignette revealed Black Lotus was coming back to the Temple, with the Black Lotus Triad, to gain revenge for Pentagon also breaking her arm at Ultima Lucha 2.
Just a regular show. The atomicos match was fun, much better than the trios match last week. Jack still was fooling around (or trying to limit his exposure while he dealt with his jaw injury), but it didn’t feel like it over powered the match. The match could’ve easily gone for a lot longer and it had a lot of Sexy Star, but it was enjoyable.
The opener too, though it wasn’t a typical Puma match. It was very one sided, and aimed at focusing on his darker side. The Mil/Puma feud seems a bit generic – it’s not much more than random feuding and one Vampiro promo – but the match itself should be pretty great when it happens again. Siniestro looked good here, and LU gave up on the character much quicker than they usually do – he never really got a feud, just was a set up guy for Mil’s feuds with Cuerno and Puma and an extra man to round out the Gift of the Gods match. The Disciples seem like they’ll go down as a failed concept (though the guy behind this one turns up again later in a different role.)
The Pentagon/Cortez match at least advances that story, and Pentagon “Dark” got a win. (Though the crowd was a lot less into seeing him – maybe because it was his second match of the taping, or maybe because they lost some momentum.) Striker’s done a 180 on Pentagon, viewing him breaking Cortez’s arm as a delightful post match activity and not an evil act. That was weird.
The main event didn’t really work for me; it felt built around Chavo’s strengths and setting up more a Rey/Chavo match than the Azteca/Pentagon match which was actually on the line. The dive catch spot was cool, but also required Azteca to do a simple pescado he’d never otherwise try. Toning down Dragon Azteca and giving him a less than credible win doesn’t do much for his chances against Pentagon.
I really loved Dario hugging Cortez. The Black Lotus Triad vignette at the end was well done, though it’s tough to make much of it if you don’t know what’s coming. Catrina sucking the life out of Siniestro and passing it to Mil was classic LU supernatural wackiness – they stayed true to what they are in this episode.
CMLL (TUE) 09/27/2016Arena México [CMLL, CultIcon, Plantilla Deportiva, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Leono & Robin b Artillero & Cholo
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Magnus, Oro Jr. b Arkángel de la Muerte, Hijo del Signo, Sangre Azteca Hijo del Signo replaced Metalico. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Misterioso Jr., Puma, Sagrado b Fuego, Soberano Jr., The Panther Rudos took 1/3.
4) Blue Panther Jr. DQ Virus [lightning] Virus unmasked Blue Panther.
5) Cavernario, La Máscara, Mr. Niebla b Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Dragón Lee Cavernario goes into the Reyes del Aire with a win.
6) Pierroth, Ripper, Rush b Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Titán Rush & Pierroth cheated to beat Tirantes.
I didn’t watch this one either. Maybe some day. I’m told the second match completely fell apart at the end, but the third match was pretty good.
Today’s Lucha Underground episode is number 4 of this season’s 40, titled Brothers in Broken Arms. Matches announced for the show:
El Dragon Azteca Jr. vs Chavo Guerrero with Rey Mysterio as special referee – video
Lucha Underground doesn’t have four match shows often. It usually means one or two of the matches will be pretty short.
The MMM show had Lucha Underground’s Eric Van Wagenen this past week. Two of the hosts work in television background, so there’s much more of a discussion about that side of LU than you’ll get in other interviews. I found it interesting that the editors actually work from home and send in their work, since LU can’t afford to bring them in full time. (I was surprised and then I remembered I edit video at home so why am I surprised.) It’s noted that Mark Burnett probably isn’t paying close attention to the show – his assistant is, so they treat her great – but the Robert Rodriguez side is more hands on. Still, they’ve only gotten maybe 3 minor notes the entire time.
Van Wagenen has worked on high profile shows like Survivor and is currently working on the Apprentice, and noted there’s so much more analysis and passion on the LU than anything else. There’s not 70 different podcasts on the Apprentice, with LU “you know every decision is going to microanalyzed, 18 different ways, and if you’re lucky 51% of the people agree with you.” It’s not Van Wagenen being critical of the criticism, but impressed by the volume of feedback they get on this show compared to those with many times more people watching.
There’s a bit of talk about the reaction to Matt Striker’s performance in the WMD match. Van Wagenen’s viewpoint is the he wants Striker & Vampiro to either be really loved or really hated, and he feels they’re doing their job well. He’s not considered about Matt – “Striker has a pretty thick skin, he can take it.” On occasion, they have to pull Striker and Vamp back a bit, but he’s constantly entertained by them.
That WMD match, for what it’s worth, was originally scheduled to be a ladder match (and that’s why the ladder got involved at the end.) Van Wagenen wanted something more colorful and didn’t want to over use the ladder match concept, and thinks everyone involved did well with the match.
Van Wagenen defended intergender wrestling by pointing out LU simply didn’t have enough money in Season 1 to bring in a lot of women – it would’ve just been a lot of Sexy Star/Ivelisse matches – and they were trying to stay true to the (AAA) lucha libre traditions, where intergender wrestling is a already a thing. They are sensitive to criticism on this point – there’s a mention that the first season Ivelisse/Angelico/Son of Havoc storyline was completely rewritten during an intermission, at least in part due to getting a bad reaction from the crowd for the match between Angelico & Ivelisse where Son of Havoc was manager. (Van Wagenen mentions getting an earful about that match from a journalist – that’s been mentioned previously to be Brandon Stroud of Uproxx.)
Pentagon’s new shirt sold out in the first day. The merchandise side and the video distribution is handled by other parts of the partnership (the Lucha Libre FMV side), Van Wagenen he gets info on it but wishes it’d all move along faster the same as everyone else. There’s also a good discussion about handling the different name rights – some names AAA owns, some LU own, some people came into the promotion – Van Wagenen mentions they haven’t gotten everything right here, but they’re trying to make it work.
CMLL (TUE) 10/04/2016Arena México
1) Bengala & Leono vs Akuma & Camorra
2) Oro Jr., Starman, Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Cancerbero, Raziel
3) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Bobby Z, Vangellys, Virus
4) Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Hechicero [lightning]
5) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Máximo Sexy vs Rey Bucanero, Sam Adonis, Terrible
6) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Titán vs Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush
They’re either setting up Azul/Rush, which should be good, or Azul/Pierroth, which should be amazing.
That’s only the second ever Maya/Hechicero match, and the first to make a stream. Don’t start watching this show until the third match.
CMLL (TUE) 10/04/2016Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Divino & Nautilius vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
2) Sensei, Soberano Jr., Star Black vs Joker, Metálico, Sangre Azteca
3) Esfinge, Fuego, Rey Cometa vs Misterioso Jr., Okumura, Sagrado
4) Dragón Lee, Máscara Dorada, Mistico vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Negro Casas, Shocker
Valiente & Volador challenged for the tag titles last night, so they’ve moved on from every iteration of Los Ingobernables getting a tag title shot to every iteration of Sky Team.
Mascara Dorada is still around in the semimain, which might have a few flips.
AAA’s posted this week’s TV show, with the tag team title match and Psycho/Pagano (which seemed like it might have been edited down a bit looking quick at the length.) The bonus features include Aerostar & Drago talking about winning the tag titles.
Estrellas de la Lucha Libre, CMLL’s inhouse magazine, has an article on Mascara Dorada being in the eye of the hurricane. That sounds like they’re acknowledging the WWE deal, at least in the magazine. They didn’t appear to be selling any of these last week (or we were just too late to get one.) Dorada has said he expects to be wrestling in Mexico 3-4 weeks more. He’ll likely be on a reduced schedule for this time, trying to balance out from working so much the last couple months.