CMLL Puebla: 2015-09-28 

Asturiano on fire

Recapped: 09/28/2015

What happened? Mephisto fouled Volador after a short main event. Challenges indicated a rematch next week. Molotov debuted on the rudo side and continues to feud with Lestat. Kamaitachi argued with Barbaro for about three seconds after their loss, thrilling those of us who are convinced Kama is losing his hair before going back and willing to overread into any hint of a new feud.

What was good? Opener was strong and parts of the tercera were very good. The big matches had a very rushed/mailed in feeling.

Where can I watch this? It’s up on CMLL’s YouTube channel already.


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Mascara versus Hijo de Dos, many mask challenges, Puebla, next weekend lineups

IWRG (SUN) 09/27/2015 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Alas de Acero & Omega b Adrenalina & Vardeus
2) Freyser & Kanon b Picudo Jr. & Ram El Carnero
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy b Apolo Estrada Jr., Hip Hop Man, Imposible
Apolo Estrada Jr. replaced Super Jack. Leo & Imposible feuded and talked mask match.
4) Canis Lupus, El Golpeador, Negro Navarro DQ Black Terry, Golden Magic, Relámpago
Golden Magic pulled Canis’ mask for the DQ. Mask match challenges followed.
5) Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Trauma I, Trauma II b Danny Casas, Hijo De Dos Caras, Veneno
Mascara Jr. snuck on a foul on Hijo de Dos, then demanded his (heavyweight) title back.

This is the unmasked Junior Dinamita who’s most often seen in AAA. He was champion in 2010 for two months with no defenses, and that might be one of the better IWRG Heavyweight title reigns. I can only assume he was in Naucalpan to track down his mysterious admirers (and so, is unaware X-Fly’s due the next title shot.) Sure a lot mask match challenges a month out from IWRG’s annual all masks cage match.

Today’s Puebla show, back on the YouTube stream, has Marco, Valiente and Volador versus Hijos del Infierno. They seem to be setting up Mephisto versus Volador here in the next couple weeks. There’s some chance for good matches on the show: Blue Panther, Dragon Lee, Maximo versus Cavernario, Kamaitachi, and Negro Casas has a good chance. The Panthrr kids team with Stigma against the Cats and Sangre Azteca.

The news on the undercard is Molotov’s debut on the rudo side. He’s been around since 2004 and been a tecnico his whole career, but surprisingly had problems with Lestat which caused him to turn rudo. (At least in Puebla; he was still tecnico in his other match this week.) The CMLL review credits Metalico for encouraging Molotov to turn, with Metalico pointing out how much better things have been for him since he turned rudo. (It’s more the mask loss.) The follow up is Molotov is a rudo but Metalico isn’t even around this week. Lestat will be there, so there probably will be more with him and Molotov.

Who’s saying lucha libre is bad now? If you guessed Hijo del Santo, give yourself a pat on the back. There was a press conference this weekend for next Monday’s Todo x el Todo show. He says TV hurt lucha libre, which means he hasn’t gotten a TV deal for TxT this time around. Interesting, while ripping AAA as usual, Santo noted he preferred CMLL’s style. Santo saying anything nice about any one is newsworthy. The photo accompanying the article shows Magnficio II in his Magnifico II mask, which makes one wonder why he’s getting a new name. As by rule, Bobby Lee Jr. challenged Hijo del Santo to a mask match.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Segunda Caida reviews Ice Killer I, Karis La Momia I, La Parka vs Misterioso, Solar I, Volador I

Wasson promo for his match with Jocker, over who’s the better Joker cosplayer.

Chessman and Myzteziz visited the Mexico City CRIT children’s hospital.

An interview with current WWC Heavyweight champion Mr. 450 has him talking a lot about how he’d like to be in WWE. He confirms his AAA bookings in there.

An interivew Sinaloa luchador Sagrado Tormento.


CMLL (SAT) 10/03/2015 Arena Coliseo
1) Sensei vs Inquisidor
2) Eléctrico vs Pequeño Olímpico
3) Lluvia vs Tiffany
4) Starman vs Sangre Azteca
5) Blue Panther Jr. vs Virus
6) Titán & Tritón vs Rey Bucanero & Vangellys
7) Atlantis, La Máscara, Valiente vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión

Titan & Triton teaming up is almost always exciting. Except maybe those opponents. Vangellys may be hurt so it may change. I can not imagine with a long one fall Lluvia/Tiffany match must be like. I can imagine what it’ll be like for Virus & Blue Panther Jr. and it doesn’t go well for Panther Jr.

CMLL (SUN) 10/04/2015 Arena México
1) Bengala & Leono vs Apocalipsis & Cholo
2) Astral, Stukita, Último Dragoncito vs Demus 3:16, Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro
3) Blue Panther Jr., Rey Cometa, The Panther vs Puma, Tiger, Virus
4) Ángel de Oro vs Hechicero [lightning]
5) Stuka Jr., Super Porky, Titán vs Boby Zavala, Felino, Niebla Roja
6) Marco Corleone, Máximo, Valiente vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Terrible

They’re stretching out Niebla/Marco for some reason. It probably has to end next week so they can start to move aside for whatever they’re doing for 11/01 instead. Tercera looks fun. So the lightning match.

CMLL (SUN) 10/04/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Máscara De Oro vs Black Sugar
2) Ángel Aéreo, Linterna, Rey Halcón vs Mercenario, Mr. Apolo, Mr. Brisa
3) El Alteño, Explosivo, Reycko vs Demonio Rojo, Gitano, Gran Kenut
4) La Pantera vs Chik Tormenta
5) El Divino, Frezzer, Metatrón vs El Chakal, El Yaqui, Thunder Boy
6) León Blanco, Nautilius, Omar Brunetti vs Mr. Trueno, Ráfaga, Rey Trueno

Back to normal? I think they’re doing a lot of women’s singles matches because getting enough women for a tag match has been an issue.

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CMLL weekend results, AAA ventures back out to iPPV

CMLL (SAT) 09/26/2015 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Mercurio b Fantasy
2) Artillero b Leono
3) Hijo del Signo b Molotov
Molotov appears to still be a tecnico here, but lost.
4) Sangre Azteca b Magnus
finish was screwed up
5) Virus b Stigma
Virus utterly dominated the match
6) Fuego & Tritón b Boby Zavala & Okumura
7) Ephesto, Mephisto, Pólvora b Mistico, Stuka Jr., Titán
Mephisto snuck in a foul

This sounds like a good old school show that’s fun for the people who really know these guys.

CMLL (SUN) 09/27/2015 Arena México
1) Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico b Angelito & Último Dragoncito
2) Metálico, Nitro, Sangre Azteca b Hombre Bala Jr., Soberano Jr., Súper Halcón Jr.
said to be terrible. Rudos won ins traight falls
3) Kamaitachi, Puma, Tiger b Esfinge, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr.
4) Stuka Jr. b Hechicero [lightning]
5) Dragon Lee, Mistico, Valiente b Euforia, Niebla Roja, Vangellys
6) La Máscara, Marco Corleone, Super Porky DQ Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
Felino replaced Thunder. Niebla fouled Marco again, but was caught this time.

This was also a show. I was surprised to find out they still do the fan (or ‘fan’) interviews they were doing on the Terra broadcast, even though they don’t air anywhere.

Rush’s cut took 15 stitches to close, according to Maximo.

AAA officially announced Heroes Inmortales will be on iPPV. Show starts at 6pm CT next Sunday. It’s listed $19 or 190 Mexican Pesos, but I don’t see a way to actually pay via pesos (which is about $8 USD cheaper than the US option, kind of crazy.) When I try to sign up, it always pushes me towards the paypal/$19USD option – maybe it’s geographically based?

I would’ve thought AAA would come back with something a bit more enticing to get people take a chance at them, but they’re basically asking iPPV people to pay the same amount and hope everything goes right. The card is much better than TripleMania, but the casual fan who might take a chance on a show doesn’t really know that (and they’re not going to find out from the website that hasn’t been updated since August, or the other website that hasn’t been updated since August.) And it’s been announced all of a one week ahead of time, only on their Twitter account, and it’s following another lucha iPPV which was turned out to be available for free if you didn’t buy it. There’s many reasons not to buy this show, and AAA’s not done much of a job of giving people reasons to actually purchase it. This is strictly going to be bought by the hardcores. I’m going to pay and I think it’d be worth the money even if I wasn’t writing about it, but I think I’m going to be pretty lonely.

hot scoop: Maximo’s tiny dog is actually Aly’s dog Chanel. (Also, Sombra’s going back to Japan in November for the tour he always goes for – the bigger news is he’s not going until then.)

DTU acknowledged the Alto Impacto title change in Germany. Jonathan Gresham has already earned a title rematch.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

A handheld of last Sunday’s Arena Coliseo Guadalajara show.

Rey Misterio Sr. was honored in Tijuana.

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Volador beats Rush but gets beat up, Universal tournament announced


CMLL (FRI) 09/25/2015 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Cancerbero & Raziel b Pegasso & Starman
Rudos took 2/3
2) Demus 3:16, Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico b Fantasy, Shockercito, Último Dragoncito
Rudos took 1/3
3) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto b Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Tritón
Rudos took 1/3.
4) Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero COR Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión
Dragon Rojo replaced Polvora on Tuesday, but it ended up with both of them in and Thunder out (and not mentioned at all.) Guerreros took 2/3, the last when Niebla Roja snuck back in as everyone else was brawling on the floor for the countout.
5) La Máscara, La Sombra, Marco Corleone b Atlantis, Máximo, Valiente
Ingobernables took 1/3.
6) Volador Jr. DQ Rush
Straight falls win in a sub eight minute match. Rush’s shoulder was cut up by a whip into the stairs. He was about to lose the second fall when Mascara, Sombra and Marco all ran in. Volador fought them off for a moment, but the Ingobernables laid him out and ripped off his gear to end the show.

Middle four matches were the best on the show. Main event wasn’t what we thought it’d be – maybe it was the injury, maybe it was just the match. The recap is one post below.

Los Ingobernables said they’re not going not stop until they retire Atlantis. Give it enough time and that’ll probably work. They also celebrated after beating up Volador Jr. Meanwhile, Atlantis made the point that he can govern the Ingobernables and blamed Rush for Sombra losing.

Thunder not being mentioned seems like something’s up, but they’ve vanished him before only for him to turn back up again. Just like his last set of missing matches, he didn’t seem to suffer an injury the week before but wasn’t much good in the ring. No idea what the deal is with him.

Sombra told friends of the site that he’s making his annual return to NJPW in November for the World Tag League tour. Naito might be on his own until then. CMLL’s pushing the 10/30 show (two days before Dia del Muertos, close enough to pretend) as their next big show. Dia del Muertos is a usually a busy day for skeleton people.

Star Jr. replaces Esfinge on Tuesday’s show.

Hernandez is officially released from his LU contract. This seemed very random as a press announcement, but maybe there’s still legal things going on? I’d guess Hernandez isn’t the only one who isn’t the only not coming back from season 2 (don’t know anything, but the usual bit of turnover), and I wonder if anyone else will get a press release.

Hijo del Fantasma says Myzteziz is going to join La Sociedad whether he likes it or not.


CMLL (FRI) 10/02/2015 Arena México
1) Fantasy & Shockercito vs Demus 3:16 & Pequeño Violencia
2) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Ripper
3) Último Guerrero vs Ángel de Oro, Dragon Lee, Cavernario, Shocker, Rey Bucanero, Luciferno, Dragón Rojo Jr. [CMLL Universal, semifinal]
4) La Máscara, Máximo, Super Porky vs Euforia, Felino, Mr. Niebla
5) Atlantis, Super Parka, Volador Jr. vs La Sombra, Marco Corleone, Rush

Super Parka returns! This is probably not going to end up being good news for Super Parka.

La Mascara and Maximo on the same team after feuding this past week, that’s normal.

CMLL seemed to change to the tournament block from last night – but then they only announced names for the shows and didn’t specifically say they were all in the tournament. The other guys who were supposed to be in the tournament are on the show but in other matches. (Maybe it was booking change, maybe it was just confusing advertisements.) Anyway, two time and reigning champion Ultimo seems like the favorite out of this block. There’s cases to believe either of the Dragons or Cavernario making into the semifinal, but they’d be decent surprises.

10/09 bracket: Volador Jr., Maximo, Negro Casas, Mistico, Valiente, Atlantis, Mephisto, and Ephesto. That’s a much harder to pick group, with everyone besides Valiente and Ephesto having a real shot. I’m not sure this tournament really means all that much this year because it’s happening after the Anniversary, but they should at least get a pretty good final out of it on 10/16.

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CMLL on 2015-09-25 

flyin’ Guerreros

What was the important stuff? Volador beat Rush in straight falls, but ended up laid out by the entire Ingobernables. Thunder was not seen and everyone pretended like he didn’t exist, which was the best Thunder related development in a while. The Universal tournament will start next week.

What were the good matches? Nothing superb, but matches 2, 3, 4 were all pretty fun. Rush/Volador was not much and disappointing.

Where can I see this? You could’ve seen it on the live stream. I’m encoding the show and it should be in next week’s video post.

(Recapped: 09/25/2015)


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Guadalajara results, Friday preview, Cara Lucha

CMLL (TUE) 09/22/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Martes de Glamour]
1) Exterminador & Maléfico b Flash I & Flash II
2) Oro Jr., Star Jr., Vaquero Jr. b Apocalipsis, Camorra, Cholo
3) Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis b La Vaquerita, Marcela, Silueta
4) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto b Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Valiente
Mephisto beat Valiente for the win.
5) Marco Corleone, Máximo, Volador Jr. b Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible
Marco beat Shocker. Confetti was shot off for some reason.

CMLL’s first Friday night show after the Anniversary has a singles match which could end up being repeated on the next big show. Volador Jr. and Rush, both left without current rivals when LA Park & Dr. Wagner left, face off in a singles match to main event tonight’s show. They’ve rarely meant in singles match, but seem to have an interesting dynamic and the crowd will definitely be behind one guy.

The other top matches follow on last week’s show: Sombra & Atlantis meet for the first time since their mask match in a trios match. Atlantis teams with Valiente & Maximo to face Ingobernables Sombra, La Mascara and Marco Corleone. Ultimo Guerrero continues to feud with Thunder in a trios with Niebla Roja, Gran Guerrero, Rey Escorpion and Thunder. The rest of the show includes the Hijos del Infernal teaming up, a minis match, and Raziel & Cancerbero in the opener.

ESTO has an interview with Rush, who repeats the idea that he only wants masks. Something probably needs to happen tonight to change his mind.

Tonight’s show will return to airing on at 8:30 pm CT. Next week’s show is scheduled to air on that website as well, and they’re still talking about what comes after that.

Segunda Caida reviews Blue Panther, Emilio Charles Jr., Fuerza Guerrera vs Blue Demon Jr., Misterioso, Volador I.

Pentagon says no one can take the tag team titles away from him and Joe Lider. Google Translate quotes Pentagon as being focused on “those two ranchers sells cheese”.

At a show this Sunday in Juarez, students of Fray Tormenta will face Angel Negro & El Fariseo in a 5000 pesos ladder match. The 5000 pesos are going to a charity of the winner’s choice (a soup kitchen or Fray’s orphanage.) This is part of a lucha show (with Rey Bucanero, Angel de Oro, Pagano and Aereo) that’s part of an annual charity cookout for the orphanage.

WXW announced a #1 contenders tournament for the DTU Alto Impacto title.

Indy promotion RCH announced they’re going to return soon. They haven’t run a show since last July.

There will be a tribute show to Dr. X on October 10th. He died four years ago.

In Xalapa’s XWW promotion, Xtremo won the cruiserweight title from Super Nova, Krazy Star is the new women’s championship (vacant after Yuca disappeared), and Rey Panter Jr. took Puma Metalico’s hair.

Star Fire is getting treatment on her knee and hopes to return to training soon, so it sounds like the knee injury wasn’t as bad as it could’ve been.

Veracruz luchador Gallo Giro is retiring.

Eric Mutter has 13 more people who should be on Lucha Underground Season 2.


CARA Lucha (SAT) 10/03/2015 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México
1) ? vs ??
2) Centvrión, Fly Warrior, Látigo vs Magnífico I, Magnífico II, Mr. Leo
3) Wasson vs Jocker (Guadalajara)
4) Andy Boy, Danger, Guerrero Mixtico vs ?, Flyer, Hombre Bala Jr.
5) Stuka Jr. vs Violento Jack, Dave The Clown
6) Rush & Trauma II vs La Sombra & Trauma I [Relevos Increíbles]

A lot of the CMLL luchadors who were canceled last month are being used here as a make up. Only Polvora and Boby Zavala are missing, and one or both could end up being the mystery luchador. Trauma I has a promo about the main event.

Jocker (Guadalajara) versus Wasson is a battle of two luchadors doing the same Joker gimmick. Mala Hiebra teams up for the first time in the segunda, which looks like an excellent match.

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lucha TV schedule for weekend of September 25th


This thing is back. Hooray?

  • AAA has the actual vacation show. Business picks back up next week.
  • CMLL Guerreros del Ring 52MX is back on the schedule (and the rerun did air tonight with the normal episode.)  They should have the second to last Dark Angel match.
  • The Dragon Lee vs Virus lightning match isn’t on the internet yet, would be nice if LATV airs it.
  • The IWRG Retro show may air on Saturday or Sunday on AYM.

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IWRG Retro, Anniversary show notes

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG RETRO (WED) 09/23/2015 Arena Naucalpan [@conjuarez, @robviper, +Lucha, Black Terry Jr. (flickr), Estrellas del Ring]
1) Epidemia & Heavy Boy b Cat Man & Mr. Libra
straight falls
2) Macho I, Macho II, Macho III b Gato Felix, Gato Reyes, Roy Reyes
3) Bracito De Plata, Bracito de Platino, Piratita Morgan bFelinito, Pequeno Espantapajaros, Pinochito
bonus minis match.
4) Cirujano, Judas el Traidor, Zonik 2000 b Avisman, Bestia Rubia, Comando Negro
Comando Negro replaced Star Boy. Good match. Zonik snuck in a foul on Avisman. Comando Negro challenged Judas to an apuesta match, but Judas had no interest.
5) Bombero Infernal, Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro b Orito, Pantera I, Panterita
The luchadors came to the ring to honor El Grillo. Lots of money thrown in for him, and he appeared to be in rough shape. Orito (Suicida) bled and was beat by Dr. Cerbero, and they made hair match challeneged.
6) Mega, Omega, Star Boy, Supermega, Ultraman DRAW Comando Delta, Comando Gama, Comando Mega, Comando Stone, Rayan
Another good match. Star Boy and Rayan were added to this match to make it a 10 man. Members of both teams unmasked early on pointing out Comando Mega was Oficial 911, Ultra Mega was Oficial Fierro and previously unknown Comando Stone was Oficial AK47. Comando Mega & Ultra Mega still feuded, and ended up in a double pin for a draw. There was talk about coming back for a cage/mask match.

This sounded like a fun show live. Hope it makes TV.

Psycho Circus beat the odd trio of Cibernetico, Machine Rocker and Mr. Maldito Friday night at the The Crash show in Guayamas, Sonora. Post match set up a Mr. Maldito versus Psycho Clown match, which sounds plausible. On the undercard, Bestia 666 kept his Revolution (?) championship over Bestia 666, and Tony Cassanova & Zarco won the The Crash tag team titles from Rey Horus & Black Boy.

CMLL drew 1,200 for it’s first iPPV according to the WON. Meltzer saw it as a low number, but it was more than I was expecting; I don’t believe a single one of their free YouTube show has reached that many people, and most are about half that size. On the other side, that’s only 1-2% of the people who were watching the show by the end of the mask match.

The WON says top wrestlers did not know who was going to lose their mask. In my experience, word was definitely out about the outcome prior to the show. Our group did not know, but only because were actively asking people who might (and did) know not to tell us. Who knew when is not really important, the key is Sombra losing wans’t a last minute decision or a tighly held secret and CMLL should already have a plan for Sombra going forward.

The Observer also says Dr. Wagner quit CMLL as part of his friendship with LA Park, but neither man expected CMLL to veto them completely and aren’t very happy about it. There’s not a lot they can do.

Dark Angel will have farewell appearances in Japan’s Stardom on 10/04 and 10/11 before heading to her next job.

Silueta is headed back to Japan for REINA. Not sure how long, but she’s got a singles match on Sunday. This is her eight trip already. That leaves the current CMLL women’s division as Marcela, Zeuxis, Dallys la Caribeña, Amapola, Princesa Sugheit, Estrellita, La Vaquerita, La Comandante, La Seductora, Lluvia, Tiffany, Reyna Isis, and Skadi (in order of my ability to survive their matches.) They desperately need a someone new and good. Multiple people wouldn’t hurt.

Star Fire believes she suffered knee ligament damage. They’re still doing more exams today.

Drago says he’s not afraid of Brian Cage.

ESTO interviews Angel de Oro.

Cadaver I is having medical issues.

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CMLL results, Lucha Underground, AAA taping schedule, Lady Shani, lineups

CMLL (SUN) 09/20/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Gitano, Mr. Brisa, Relampago b Ángel Aéreo, Meteoro, Rey Halcón
debut for Angel Aereo
2) Súper Estrella b La Pantera
3) Engendro Jr. & Roberto Paz Jr. DQ Exterminador & Maléfico
Guadalajara vs Arena Roberto Paz (who were both debuting here). They lost by DQ after a foul.
4) El Divino, Neutrón, Vaquero Jr. b Joker, Ráfaga, Sádico
Divino beat Joker.
5) Cavernario, Damián 666, Halloween, Mosco X Fly DQ Esfinge, Gallo, Magnum, Tritón
Guadalajara vs Tijuana. Cavernario and Triton were randomly added to the match. Match came down to X-Fly and Esfinge, with X-Fly tricking Esfinge into holding a barbed wire covered chair (???) and pretending he was hurt, drawing the DQ victory.

Next Sunday’s show isn’t listed on the CMLL site (because it’s all indy.)

CMLL (TUE) 09/22/2015 Arena México [@TKD_117, CMLL]
Attendance: 3000
1) Aéreo & Eléctrico b Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia
Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Inquisidor b Metatrón, Robin, Sensei
straight falls
3) Súper Comando b Flyer [lightning] Flyer vs. Súper Comando, 2015-09-22 (posted by TKD117)
Super Comando pulled Flyer’s mask to win, though it looked like he got DQed live.
4) Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado b Blue Panther Jr., Delta, The Panther
The Panther was stretchered out after Pierroth’s finisher (which looked misapplied.) The medical staff almost dropped The Panther off the stretcher.
5) Kráneo, Morphosis, Ripper b Blue Panther, Super Porky, Titán
6) La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush b Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

CMLL hasn’t put up the lightning match, but TKD took a handheld. This was Super Comando’s first win on a singles match since April, when he beat Bengala in the opener of an Sabado Retro show. The Saturday singles match show makes those stats less impressive; you’d have to go back to 2012 to find a singles win for Comando before that. He’s 6-7 in known singles matches, which is actually not that bad.

Ingobernables were said to be very impressive as a trio in the main event. It’s rare to get them all together on a Tuesday, even with Rush & Sombra not being able to work in Guadalajara.

Dragon Rojo will replace Polvora on Friday.

In a WrestleZone interview, Chris DeJoseph was talking about season 2 of Lucha Underground, and reportedly said Alberto el Patron was confirmed be back. (I have not yet listened to it, or the MLW radio interview with him.) Alberto said not so fast.

Everyone always cites the seven year deals that were originally offered to indie wrestlers as what everyone coming to Lucha Underground signed. Alberto didn’t sign when everyone else did, and Alberto wasn’t an indie guy who they felt they could replace. (And I’m not sure if those were the deals that were finally signed by anyone or if things were changed; assuming everyone signs the same deal is a bad idea in general.) Anyway, if Alberto says he’s not actually confirmed as coming back, I tend to believe him.

There is the other issue of Alberto repeatedly posting about his unhappiness with Lucha Underground on Twitter. He complained about editing of his matches (the first one with Mundo), he wrote about being disrespected about being in the opener of Lucha Underground. LU doesn’t seem to be WWE, where complaining publicly will get you humiliated, but it still strange for someone to take those issues public. Alberto may not feel like he’s getting listened to, or he may just not care (and he can afford to not care with the other stuff he’s got going on.) Alberto may just be using Twitter to vent – he’s done it about non-LU stuff and even non-wrestling stuff – and is less upset about things in reality, but that seems like a stretch.

LU losing Alberto would hurt from star value, especially if they don’t add another level star (see next paragraph), but LU is at such a low level in conventional numbers that I’m not sure if it matters. Ratings on El Rey rose from the moment Alberto debuted to the end of the season, which might be some of him and might just be some of people discovering the show or that they had the channel. (He conceivably might have been a bigger difference maker on UniMas, but we just don’t have those numbers.) Alberto’s notoriety would seem to help open doors for deals in the US and in Mexico, but there’s no sign of any of those deals being made. Alberto and Mundo had some great matches and there’s a lot more left for Alberto since he’d been kept out of the championship picture (plus the tease of the match with Prince Puma), so he’d be a definite loss. On the other hand, if LU is going increasingly sci-fi/fantasy, Alberto’s character doesn’t quite fit in.

Alberto hasn’t been around AAA much since TripleMania, but he is listed after Heroes Inmortales as making a rare spot show appearance in Oaxaca on 10/11. Misterio is listed as making spot shows around TV tapings, so perhaps this is a clue Alberto’s also booked for the 10/09 Tlahuelilpan show. Estrella Divina is the only non-AAA roster person on that show, which makes me think Divina actually is on the roster but at the extreme fringes (and it’s not often they’re calling for the fourth? exotico.) That name has shown up on other spot shows too.

On that podcast, DeJospeh says he doesn’t know if Rey Misterio Jr. is coming in. He also noted he didn’t know about this renewal until everyone else. I still think Rey’s coming in (though I thought so for the end of Season 1, and was wrong then.) They didn’t say a word about Rey in the press release, which makes me think they’re saving it as a surprise for episode 1. It doesn’t do a lot of help to announce it in any time before now, because they’re going to sell (the free? tickets) out to the first shows anyway. Given Rey’s closeness with AAA and his willingness to work for any indie that can pay him, this seems obvious.

Unrelated request: can everyone please stop asking DeJoseph about Big Dick Johnson as an ice breaker. It’s like the 10,000th most interesting thing to ask him, it only ends with the host agreeing he didn’t actually like the gimmick either, it is not good audio. Please ask him about how the running back carries should be distributed between Andre Ellington, Chris Johnson and David Johnson instead. Thank you.

Wrestling Observer Radio said the first Lucha Underground tapings would be in December. AAA usually tapes Guerra de Titanes in December and has few other tapings in December and January, so it’s an easy time to get started scheduling wise.

Sexy Lady confirmed she’s new AAA luchadora on Instagram. (Her user names on Twitter and Instagram have the new name too.) She thanks a lot of people for helping her improve and get the new character (another Oscar Garcia design, which feels like a fighting game costume.) Sexy Lady seemed promising last we saw her but hadn’t been used on TV since March 2014 and only infrequently prior. (Her second most recent appearance was on IWL TV, to let you know how long it’s been since she’s had a TV appearance.) “Sexy Lady” seemed a bit plain for a luchador and also confusing with a Sexy Star around, so this seems like an improvement.

A few later year AAA TV tapings have leaked out. AAA’s returning to Arena Xalapa for a taping on 11/06, and the Ciudad Juarez date is officially 11/15.  Both are advertising Rey Jr. on top. (Again, if he’s working Ciudad Juarez, they probably can get him to LA.) Those dates fit on the TV schedule right after the Reynosa/Nuevo Laredo shows; AAA could still add more tapings in between but would’t need to. The Juarez taping might be the last show before Guerra de Titanes.

Victoria says their spring lucha lbire campaign was a success, with beer sales up 10%. That was the AAA/CMLL wrestlers on cans and bottle caps. The entire collection is going for between 235 and 600 pesos on the black market.

Would you like a vague hint of Hijo del Ninja coming to AAA? How about one for Pagano? Have them both. (Hijo del Ninja might do well. Pagano would last 1 match.)

Luna Magica says she’s planning to return to wrestling early next year. She didn’t retire, but left to have a child and had some following surgeries. (Child seems to be OK, that’s good.)

Cara Lucha announced Rush & Trauma II vs Sombra & Trauma I for 10/03. Relevos Increibles remain a plague. I’d rather see the Japan method of adding in guys not on the (star) level of the top guys to each side to take the pins if that’s the issue.

Today would’ve been El Santo’s 98th birthday. R de Rudo looks back at his pre-El Santo career, and tries to compare Atlantis’ current run with El Santo’s successes.

LuchaWorld has a new edition of the podcast, this week’s Poster-Mania, KrisZ’s update for Monday in one two parts and one for Wednesday as well.

Segunda Caida reviews Huracán Sevilla, Misterioso, Volador I vs Fuerza Guerrera, Kung Fu, MS-1

Apolo Valdes reviews the Anniversary show. Apolo laughed when I was (comically) sad after Sombra lost, which is probably a point in his favor.

Kcidis draws La Sombra getting into a new club.

Diosa Atenea talks about winning the WWS championship.

Super Lucha writes about Princesa Sugehit and Cien Caras’ feud with Rayo de Jalisco.

Mano a Mano interviews Metaleon (who says his parents are ex-luchadors Leon Dorado and Dama del Ring), Emperador Azteca (who calls the group of IWRG trained wrestlers Metaleon, Golden Magic, Emperador Azteca, Centviron, Mr. Leo and Latigo “la ola dorada”) and Extreme Tiger.

Lucha Libre in Japan Elsewhere

09/23 Stardom: Rosa Negra beat Star Fire to win the High Speed Championship (2:13); Star Fire falls on second defense.

Star Fire suffered what appears to be a significant knee injury in the first minute of the match. The report says she wanted to go on, could not. Rosa Negra quickly finished her with a frog splash to end the match, then actually carried Star Fire to the back to help her get medical aid. Hope it’s not as serious as it reads.

The Alberto/Mesias WWL title match in went to no contest when Invader #1 and Gilbert ran in.

Jonathan Gresham is in Germany until the end of October, so maybe he’ll have a chance to win the DTU Alto Impacto title back before then. DTU hasn’t acknowledged the title change. I hope that title does come back and sticks around for a decade more, because it’s accumulating a UWA-like list of random people as champions, with the bonus of actually representing a non-dead promotion.


RDLL (SUN) 09/27/2015 Centro Civico, Múzquiz, Coahuila
1) Príncipe Halcón vs Mr. Venganza
2) Baby Star Jr. & Chicanito vs Apeyron & Power Bull
3) Thay Lee vs Escape, La Maldicion
4) Explosivo & Razzman vs Alexander Grenssen & Johnny Arana
5) Guerrero Maya Jr. & Robin vs El Reo & Killer

A show I would not know about except for Maya tagging me on every photo he uploads. Randomly listed as an AYM airing on the poster. That’s not the case most of the time, but maybe it’s airing in clips on Sobre el Ring or Divinas.

CMLL (TUE) 09/29/2015 Arena México
1) Flyer & Robin vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Esfinge, Oro Jr., Tritón vs Okumura, Sangre Azteca, Virus
3) Estrellita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
4) Titán vs Kamaitachi [lightning]
5) Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Hechicero, Luciferno, Terrible
6) Dragon Lee, La Sombra, Máximo vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Último Guerrero

Titan versus Kamiatahci sounds outstanding. Semimain has a chance to be good too. Terrible will punch Maya and Maya will fall to the mat like a log, guarantee it.

Third match is kind of the best of the CMLL women’s division in a post Dark Angel world. Eek.

CMLL (TUE) 09/29/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Tapatío & Star Black vs Demonio Rojo & El Chakal
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Magnum, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Cancerbero, Ráfaga, Raziel
3) Delta, Fuego, Rey Cometa vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
4) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Super Porky vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión
5) La Máscara, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Shocker

Marco and Niebla seem headed to a singles match to start Ocotber.

RIOT (SAT) 10/03/2015 Arena Femenil, Monterrey, Nuevo León
1) Caifan vs Epydemius
2) Dralion vs Rey Horus
3) Lord Byron vs Psicotico
4) Kratoz & Ultimo Ninja vs Low Rider & Sammy Guevara
5) Kaientai vs Erick Ortiz, Arez
6) Alberto Dos Rios vs ?

Debut show for a new Monterrey promotion, run by people involved with LuchaMania Monterrey.  I may have the card order upside down!

IWRG (SUN) 09/27/2015 Arena Naucalpan
1) Alas de Acero & Omega vs Adrenalina & Vardeus
2) Freyser & Kanon vs Picudo Jr. & Ram El Carnero
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy vs Hip Hop Man, Imposible, Super Jack
4) Black Terry, Golden Magic, Relámpago vs Canis Lupus, El Golpeador, Negro Navarro
5) Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Trauma I, Trauma II vs Danny Casas, Hijo De Dos Caras, Veneno

Last week’s show ended with Heddi Karoui making challenged, Heddi Karoui isn’t even on this card. IWRG!

On TV, they didn’t get the cameras rolling until the segunda was already in progress. We’ll never know what happened to Imposible last week. He’ll try again here.

Freyser may have turned again. Who knows.

DTU (SUN) 09/27/2015 Unidad Deportiva Javier Rojo Gomez, Tulancingo, Hidalgo
1) Chiki Nerd I & Chiki Nerd II vs Maczito & Zuzu Divine
2) Eslabon Dorado, Itzcoatl, Pequeño Torando vs Odiseo, Ovelix, Zeuz
3) El Kromiko, Energia Jr., Payaso Krokus, Sacristán del Diablo vs Colmillo Blanco, Corazon Latino, Dr. Boris, Exotico
Pachuca wrestlers
4) Deluto I, Deluto II, Deluto III vs Águila, Fryser, Impostor
Pachuca wrestlers
5) Chico Maravilla, Gio Malkriado, Luigi vs Corsario Negro, Enemigo Publico, Perro Negro
6) Artikus, Hormiga, Jimmy, Lanzeloth vs Black Fire, Demente Extreme, Jinzo, Miedo Extremo
7) Aero Boy, Joe Lider, Pesadilla, Rocky Lobo vs Cíclope, Ovett, Paranoiko, Yuriko

Crazy Boy benefit show.

TXT (MON) 10/05/2015 Domo de la Feria, León, Guanajuato
1) ? vs ??
2) Rossy Moreno vs Lady Apache
3) Bobby Lee Jr., Huracan Ramirez, Rayman vs Heddi Karaoui, Pirata Morgan, Zumbi
4) Angel Blanco Jr. © vs Cielito [WWA MIDDLE]
fourth defense? Cielito is the unknown.
5) Canek, El Hijo Del Santo, Octagón vs Dr. Wagner Jr., Fuerza Guerrera, Heavy Metal

Their new poster looks more professional then the old one, though it’s interesting the old one listed this as part of a Hijo del Santo retirement tour and the new one does not. Not sure about this title challenger. Cielito has never appeared previously. Maybe he’s the guy in the bottom right? Mano Negra, notably bad referee in high speed matches, will be back on this show but probably won’t have those style of matches to worry about. No TV outlet listed.

There may be a new Santo movie in a few years. Maybe. (The article makes it sound like it’s so in the preliminary stage that it never even gets mentioned if it wasn’t Santo’s birthday.)

indy (SUN) 10/11/2015 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) ? vs ??
2) Epidemiuz vs Rico Rodríguez, Laredo Kid [? CRUiSER]
3) Silver King vs Humberto Garza Jr. [loser must retire]
4) Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Hijo del Ninja, Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr., Ultimo Ninja, Hijo De Silver King, Ninja Jr. [cage, mask, hair]

Listed as taped for TV; one of these matches may join the rotation of the four matches they keep repeating forever and ever and ever and ever.

Not sure why a single person would care about a stipulation involving Silver King being forced to stop doing anything when he’s wearing his mask again. Not for a second would anyone believe he’s actually going to retire if he loses that match. Not that I think he’s the one retiring.

Amo la Lucha Libre (SAT) 10/31/2015 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Alas De Oro vs Fuerza Negra
2) Chico Che, Pegazus, Saruman vs Black Thunder, Muerte Infernal, Rey Gato
3) Chucho el Roto & Sádico vs Motocross & Neza King and Holkan & Mascara Perdida [Copa Amanos la Lucha Libre]
students of Rocky Santana vs Puma (?, Arena Neza) vs Konkreto
4) Gallego & Gallego Jr. vs Hijo del Pantera & Pantera II and Bombero Infernal & Mike [Copa Padre Maestro Hijo de Talento]
5) Yakuza © vs Romano Garcia [AULL WELTER]
6) Máscara Sagrada, Súper Muñeco, Súper Pinocho vs Fuerza Guerrera, Máscara Año 2000, Pentagon I

Ring announcer/occasional YouTube host fifth year anniversary show. Fourth match seems to give away Mike’s identity but a) Bombero has at least two sons and b) expert turtle watchers believe that might not be the original Mike. (He spells his name Miike on his gear, but the people who make posters have seemingly rejected that as too crazy.)

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09/21 Arena Puebla results, next week’s lineup

CMLL (MON) 09/21/2015 Arena Puebla
1) Guerrero Espacial, Rey Apocalipsis, Toro Bill Jr. b Paris, Principe Diamante, Zaeta Roja
Rudos took 1/3
2) Akuma, Metálico, Policeman b Lestat, Molotov, Oro Jr.
Lestat accidentally dropkicked Molotov, which led to Molotov repeated harassing Lestat until Molotov finally turned on him. Straight falls for the rudos.
3) Boby Zavala, Disturbio, Kamaitachi b Delta, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr.
Rudos took 2/3. Triton was hurt during the match but completed it. Zavaa got the win but his finish looked off.
4) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto b Dragon Lee, Valiente, Volador Jr.
Rudos took 2/3. Mephisto snuck in a foul on Volador.
5) Atlantis b Rey Escorpión
Escorpion tried rushing Atlantis, but still got beat in the second and third fall for the loss.

I wrote this post in the Mexico City airpot and couldn’t post it, so it’s going up now. We only got to see about half the card, but the matches were fine and the arena looked great. (Thanks to those who helped us get there and didn’t go insane dealing with the traffic.)


CMLL (MON) 09/28/2015 Arena Puebla
1) Asturiano, Black Tiger, Rey Samuray vs Espíritu Maligno, Fuerza Chicana, King Jaguar
2) Lestat, Soberano Jr., Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Molotov, Nitro, Policeman
3) Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther vs Puma, Sangre Azteca, Tiger
4) Blue Panther, Dragon Lee, Máximo vs Cavernario, Kamaitachi, Negro Casas
5) Marco Corleone, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto

Seems like they’re building towards Volador/Mephisto in a couple weeks. Semimain could be fun.

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