The Crash: 2017-05-05 

Daga & ZSJ counters

Recapped: 08/07/05

All matches took place in Auditorio de Tijuana on May 5th. I switched between MAC Vazquez & MegaKakashi619’s videos depending on the match. Kakashi has better sound and picture, but also the head of the person in front of them blocking the action sometimes.


Douglas James, Oráculo, Serpentico beat Black Danger, Jonathan, Último Maldito
(10:17, Oraculo reverse rana Black Danger, good, via

A more coherent version of a The Crash opener, where they were clearly doing the normal A-B-A structure – but then just kept on going to do more stuff. (You need really need to do the tower of doom superplex, trust me.) Douglas James is not a name that seems to be on these shows a lot but looked impressive here, and this was generally better held together action than usual. Oraculo’s finish looked messed up and he had a headscissors before it that didn’t go well, but they’ve got many months more to get better chemistry.

James dropkick

Arkángel Divino, Astrolux, Black Boy beat Diamante (Elite), Famous B, Látigo
(7:00, Arkangel Divino C4 Diamante, good, via

Anoher good action match, thought his one suffered from feeling too sameish, as if I was seeing the same moves everyone does, but it happened to be with these guys instead. This is one that actually came thru a lot better on the 126f hard came than the ringside, because the moves just look more impression from a typical camera angle. (And because no one’s head was in the way).)

Astrolux headscissors
Latigo gets some revenge

Garza Jr., Jack Evans, Último Ninja beat Bestia 666, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Jeff Cobb
(12:55, Jack Evans bridging backslide Bestia 666, good, via 
MAC Vazquez)

Review: [good] another solid enjoyable match, though it suffers a bit from being the same style of match three in a row (and more coming) and being a little bit slower match. Cobb throwing people around is definitely different, but the match feel is the same and they didn’t go as crazy as the other matches. A fair bit of the Tijuana crowd is very eager to boo Garza, the show after they used him as the big hero and months before they actually turned him.

Cobb is strong
Jack Evans dive

Flip Gordon & Ricochet beat Mr. 450 & Sammy Guevara
(20:25, Ricochet shooting star press Sammy Guevera, good, via
MAC Vazquez)

The best version of this year, helped by having less people (so less turns needed to be taken) and Ricochet coming off as a cut above everyone else on the show. The other guys were not far behind him but he radiated as the big star here. There was a bit of the sameish feeling here again but they did a lot more flying in this one to stick out. This one felt like it connected a lot stronger live than it did for me, but it was still good.

Guevera SSP
Sammy swung at the king, missed.

Daga beat Zack Sabre Jr.
(20:46, anklelock + cruz nipona, good, via
MAC Vazquez)

Review: [good] this is the match you want it to be, Daga trying to figure out a way to fight ZSJ’s match and beating him. They didn’t stay just on that mat but it looked good when they did and the finish was a nice big of entanglement, and it felt like a lot of people had to work very hard for the win. I think the people for videotaping this show but I couldn’t take the fans commentary during the match. This is one where I’m sure I would’ve liked it more pro shot because it was just too distracting this way.

Daga forearm

Penta Zero M & The King vs Matt Jackson & Nick Jackson
(19:25, spike package piledriver on Nick, via
MAC Vazquez)

Review: [great] Just like the other matches, it’s a lot of action for quite a while. The two teams match up pretty well, and I think the Bucks ended up doing a couple lucha spots they probably don’t do normally (unless they’re always doing the headscissors/ardmrag combo and I’m mistaken.) This was a generally smooth match up and one of that gave the fans what they wanted to see. It did feel a little all star exhibition and not as if it was big match at times, but they weren’t taking it easier.

lots of moves and the only GIF I took was the mid match dancing


Mistico/UG, Lucha Underground, TripleMania on Televisa (but only one match?)

Rush is no help

CMLL (TUE) 08/08/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Acero & Aéreo b Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 8 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 1/3
2) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit b La Seductora, Metálica, Tiffany LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 8 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Sugehit replaced Sanely. Tecnicas took 1/3
3) Rey Cometa b Forastero [lightningLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 8 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Cometa won in 7 minutes.
4) Ephesto, Felino, Luciferno b Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 8 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible b Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Titán LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 8 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3
6) Cavernario, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero b Mistico, Rush, Valiente LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 8 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3. Rush pulled out Tirantes when UG had Mistico pinned, so UG just unmasked Mistico and pinned him immediately after anyway.

I haven’t seen this one yet. The main event ended with Ultimo Guerrero and Mistico agreeing to a singles match next week. They won’t be having a singles match next week, but maybe the one after that. The only things I heard about this one was Cometa/Forastero was good and not to watch the show entirely. I probably will watch the show.

Today’s Lucha Underground episode is 3×30, “Bloodlines”. Matches announced for the show

No one has any Medalions; Mundo cashed in the Gift of the Gods belts to beat Sexy Star and then there were tournaments and they’re just getting back to it now. I wrote Jack Evans was on the team, but they did say it was Ricky. It means either Ricky finally wins or the Rabbit Tribe finally wins.

The two quarterfinal winners meet in their semifinal next week, as do Fenix & Prince Puma. Roku is offering a free month of Lucha Underground via DirectTVNow.

Leo Riano says the current plan is to air Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. on Televisa’s channel 5 after Mayweather/McGregor. Riano goes on to talk about how great this is while ignoring that he’s been hyping up the entire TripleMania show airing on Televisa; it sounds like only the one match is going to air as a plan to keep people tuned in a while longer.

Airing that match on TV would give great attention for AAA, but would also make those PPVs a tougher sell. The show has been built on one match, and if that match is going to air on TV (likely on a few hour delay), people will be persuaded just to watch that one match. AAA probably should be making announcement sometime in the next week or so, and we’ll actually know what’s going on then.

The really important news is Riano’s calling the boxing match so we won’t have to hear him on TripleMania. Hooray.

Konnan put up a new edition of Podcast Boom. He says Rey Horus no-showed The Crash over being booked in a second match, which was the rumor going around about Horus splitting up with the promotion. Horus is a Tijuana based guy and was being booked in main events before being in The Crash, and I’d guess some other promoter convinced him he’d get to be in main events again if he left. Konnan announced LAX will be facing OVE (the GFW/Impact gimmicks for the Crist Brothers) and a local team for GFW Tag Titles on the 09/02 show. Low Ki & Shane Strickland will also be on those shows, so they are able to find outsiders even with BOLA on. He also says Zorro is still with them, but out injured, and NOAH’s contacted Rey Fenix & Garza Jr.

Cholo de Tijuana’s shows on 08/17 in Ensenanda and 08/18 in Tijuana have been canceled.

EN+CARADOS #35 has Hip Hop Man & Emperador Azteca on, plus MDA & The Crash reports.

The latest episode of Lucha Talk is up.


CMLL (MON) 08/14/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Millenium & París vs Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja
2) Espíritu Maligno & Lestat vs Disturbio & Metálico
3) Princesa Sugehit © vs Zeuxis [MEX WOMEN]
3rd defense
4) Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., The Panther vs Kráneo, Morphosis, Olímpico
5) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Niebla Roja vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Sam Adonis
6) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico vs Diamante Azul, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

Main event is a rematch.

Sugehit/Zeuxis will be good. It’s the third straight defense for Sugehit against Zeuxis (including the last defense, in this same arena), and the four title matches before that were Zeuxis defending against Sugehit, so they’re really running the same matches seven straight times. It’ll also be Zeuxis’ second title match in two days because coordination is over rated.

CMLL (TUE) 08/15/2017 Arena México
1) Fiero & Retro vs Apocalipsis & Inquisidor
2) Metatrón, Oro Jr., Star Jr. vs Canelo Casas, Nitro, Sangre Azteca
3) Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol, Rey Cometa vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus
4) Drone vs Puma [lightning]
5) Blue Panther, Carístico, Titán vs Luciferno, Mr. Niebla, Pierroth
6) Mistico, Rush, Valiente vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

Main event is a rematch. Drone/Puma should be fun, because it was fun when they did the same match just a few weeks ago.

Box Y Lucha published an interview with El Consejo, with the pretense of explaining why he changed names but never really doing and it doesn’t really matter, because he’s back being Nitro until the next time a trademark needs to be serviced.

CMLL (TUE) 08/15/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Magnum & Micro vs Difunto & Furia Roja
2) Lady Maravilla, Silueta, Skadi vs Dalys, La Comandante, La Seductora
3) Blue Panther Jr., Esfinge, Fuego vs Hechicero, Tiger, Universo 2000 Jr.
4) Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. vs Felino, Shocker, Terrible
5) Diamante Azul vs Euforia

CMLL can’t remember to have Diamante Azul defend his title, even though he’s surely going to win anyway. Universo 2000 Jr. is back after about 6 weeks out with a shoulder injury. Maravilla is getting steady bookings for a new comer (though maybe Jarochita not being around is part of it.)

Super Astro (FRI) 08/18/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Astrolux, Hijo del Alebrije, Pegazus vs Demonio Infernal, Kamikaze, Kratoz
2) Cinthia Moreno, Diva Salvaje, Lady Apache, Taylor Wolf vs Cerebro Negro, Demasiado, Muñeca De Plata, Rossy Moreno
3) Boby Zavala, Epydemius, Eterno vs Demus 3:16, Dr. Karonte Jr., Fishman Jr.
4) Aeroboy, Extreme Tiger, Golden Magic vs Jack Evans, Séptimo Dragón, Último Ninja
5) Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Oriental, X-Fly vs Antifaz del Norte, Fresero Jr., Mr. Águila
6) Ciclón Ramírez, El Bandido, Emperador Azteca vs Imposible, Metaleón, Templario
7) Dark Ozz, Dark Spíritu, Hijo De Dos Caras vs Silver King, Trauma I, Trauma II
8) Rey Escorpión & Sharly Rockstar vs Cibernético & Hijo de LA Park and Máximo & Mr. Electro
9) La Máscara & Rey Fénix (US) vs Daga & LA Park and Hernandez & Zorro

56 luchadors on the show, plus Mr. Niebla signing autographs before the show. Hernandez & Zorro used to be friends in AAA, I don’t know why I remember that.

DTU XLAW (SAT) 08/26/2017 Autolavado VM, Tulancingo, Hidalgo
1) Erwing & Irving vs Masizito & The Black
2) Drolux, Hard Boy, Paranoiko vs Crazy Boy, Devitt Rodrigeuz, Toto
3) Kevin vs MoriaLokill
4) Cobre vs Drastik Boy
5) Hormiga © vs Camuflaje
6) Exotico, Jimmy, Ovett vs Gio, Halloween, Junior

DTU & X-LAW at the carwash (so there’s a chance we’ll see it.) Cobre gets a big match with Drastick Boy.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-08-01 

Rey Bucanero just trying to stroll around the ring with his friend and keeps getting toped

Recapped: 08/01/2017

All matches aired live from Arena México


Apocalipsis & Inquisidor vs Bengala & Magia Blanca 
(11:54 [5:48, 2:33, 3:33], 1/3, n/r, via 

Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Violencia beat Fantasy, Stukita, Último Dragóncito  
(15:26 [6:06, 4:28, 4:52], 2/3, n/r, via

El Consejo, Oro Jr., Star Jr. beat Arkángel de la Muerte, Luciferno, Metálico
(13:15 [5:34, 3:41, 4:00], 1/3, n/r, via 

Drone, Fuego, Stigma beat Misterioso Jr., Raziel, Sangre Azteca
(14:14 [3:49, 4:43, 5:42], 1/3, n/r, via 

Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas beat Mistico, Stuka Jr., Valiente
(11:13 [3:07, 2:37, 5:29], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ángel de Oro © vs Rey Bucanero for the CMLL World Middleweight Championship
(18:19 [3:16, 1:52, 13:11], 1/3, good, via

  1. Angel de Oro Skayde Special (3:16)
  2. Rey Bucanero sit down powerbomb (1:52)
  3. Angel de Oro mecedora (13:11)

What Happened in the main event:

this seemed like a better idea in Bucanero’s head

Tirantes refused to count the first fall pin because Bucanero didn’t have his shoulders down enough. Angel de Oro adjusted it slightly, and yelled at Tirantes after the fall, which is played as Tirantes being a rudo. Tirantes is spectacularly late starting a count later for no obvious reason, which causes a similar reaction. For the second straight day, Tirantes screws up a “rudo grabs hand to stop the count” spot. Angel de Oro spends most of the match limping after Bucanero drives one of his knees into the match, but Bucanero himself seems to be having a left shoulder issue after doing a dive off the ramp. He tries to catch Angel de Oro’s moonsault one armed as a results and it doesn’t go too great. They do a few more stops in the ring before finishing up, so it doesn’t seem to have derailed things.


moonsault to a one armed man

I took my own advice and skipped everything but the main event. The fourth match looked god, fun in the usual crowd pleasing way of an active Tuesday match, but nothing to separate from the ones that are done weekly.

The bit that actually stood out the most in the title match was Angel de Oro selling a body part, an exotic event in CMLL. He kept at it for a long portion of the match and even sort of tampered down selling it, adjusting the knee pad a bit, as if to note it was feeling a little better to start running again. That was something interesting we got of Angle de Oro and it didn’t seem like there’d be anything interesting out of him; he was still doing largely the same moves, some looking better (moonsault) than others (embarrassing kick to set up the stunner, which I’m convinced Angel de Oro has never watched on video because it always looks bad), but at least it gave a different feel. Bucanero is willing to throw himself around, to his own detriment in the end here, but can’t move at a great pace. Slowing down Angel de Oro helped compensate for that, but this was just a good match and not the crazy miracle of the match with Hechicero.

Tirantes was terrible in this match, the second straight day of him being terrible. CMLL knows he’s bad, they know enough about all their referees to make sure Edgar is the one in charge of the truly important matches, but they don’t care enough to get some better people in here or get people to pay attention. Tirantes was messing up counts in this match, and wasn’t paying attention in others, and it happens regularly.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-07-31 

Rush is supposed to grab Tirantes arm, can’t, so Tirantes just stops counting and everyone is confused

Recapped: 08/01/2017

All matches aired live from Arena Puebla


Arkalis, Espíritu Maligno, Rey Samuray beat Ares, Guerrero Espacial, Rey Apocalipsis
(14:27 [5:13, 4:56, 4:18], 1/3, ok, via

Rey Samuray came out spectacular in the first fall and the first two falls were generally interesting, but this match faded to a conclusion. They really should’ve mad the classic version of the Spanish Fly the last spot of the match but bringing back the hair feud we’ve all moved on from was deemed more important.

indie Rey Samuray must be fun

Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany beat La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely  
(14:41 [6:10, 3:03, 5:28], 2/3, ok, via 

reason for GIF: I totally forgot Tiffany’s finisher is a reinera because she gets so few wins. And there was nothing else to say about this one.

Shockercito © beat Pierrothito for the CMLL World Pequeño Estrellas Championship (14:01 [3:23, 3:05, 7:33], 2/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

The minis title match was really good, as the two long time CMLL luchadors are really smooth working with each other. This is the advantage to having the same dozen people wrestling each other forever, they can get really good at doing it. Nothing went wrong in the match, and Shockercito threw him into big spots like his tope. It was missing a little excitement from me to go higher, but the crowd seemed to enjoy it a lot.

Shockercito tope

Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr., Stigma beat El Malayo, Puma, Tiger
(15:03 [4:04, 3:47, 7:12], 2/3, ok via

This was exciting and competitive. It followed the usual CMLL trios big match formula, but they were doing it at incredible speed. It really was moving fast at the end of the first fall and again in the third fall. This looked on paper like something to set up Malayo and Stigma, but they were bit players to the other four. Rey Cometa is the one of the most dramatic sellers of moves in CMLL; he was even selling his own rope flip Spanish Fly by the end.

Tiger tornillo

Dragón Lee, Mistico, Stuka Jr. beat Ephesto, Mephisto, Negro Casas
(11:08 [5:56, 5:12], 1/2, ok, via

Notes: Stuka and Mephisto went at it from the start. Stuka surprised Mephisto with a huracanrana in the first, in a fall the rudos were otherwise winning. Stuka took the second fall cleanly, setting up a title match for next week.

This not much of a match because of it being two falls and deciding to save more of Stuka & Mephisto for next week. They were alright, like they’re always alright, and I expect they’ll have (or had by the time you read this) a solid good title match. Negro Casas & Dragon Lee were the real stars here, chopping each other so hard that you can see the sweat flying off of them, and finishing a short exchange with an armdrag and a pose that sent Casas rolling up the ramp. I don’t know if Casas can go a dozen minutes whenever he wants not, but he can look world class in short sprints. That’s perfect for CMLL trios matches. Dragon Lee doesn’t take shows off. Mistico had some iffy spots, including messing up the boost dropkick near the end, but there was some good stuff here.

Seriously, they’re headlining a show next year. Write it down.

Carístico beat Rush
(10:48, ok, via 

  1. Rush corner dropkick (1:50)

  2. Caristica (4:06)

  3. DQ Rush foul (4:52)

Notes: Carsitico tried wait for Rush to come out the entrance, so Rush came out thru the crowd, and was laying in the ring when Carístico finally turned around. About 4 minutes into the third fall, Caristico puts Rush in a casita, and Rush just fails to kick out. He appears to try and grab Tirantes’s hand to stop the count, but he’s nowhere near it and Tirantes isn’t helping. Tirantes does tell them to ignore it, unlike any other match. Carístico does a weird look frogsplash, and they repeat the spot with Rush grabbing Tirantes this time. Rush fouled Caristico to end the mask, unmasked him, and him with the stretcher as the fans were walking out.

The main event was not as bad as I thought it might be, but the finish was fairly terrible and Rush barely got out of first gear. Rush works so much slower than everyone else, but it’s OK if he’s bringing something else. He’s bringing not great looking work (the La Mistica looked bad) and threatening to murder Tirantes repeatedly doesn’t make the match more compelling on it’s own.) Rush desperately trying to do moves to win the third fall right away doesn’t fit with him throwing away the match at the end, unless Rush’s character is supposed to be a guy who tries until it gets too hard and then looks for a way out. (Maybe that IS his character.) Carístico didn’t show much on his own, and he’s not really a guy who pull more effort out of people at this point in his career.

Mephsito keeps title over Stuka, Oraculo/Black Danger in Crash, Garza


CMLL (MON) 08/07/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja b Guerrero Espacial & Sombra Diabólika LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 7 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Black Tiger, Lestat, Robin b El Malayo, El Perverso, Fuerza Chicana LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 7 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) La Comandante & Zeuxis b La Vaquerita & Princesa Sugehit LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 7 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Sugehit & Zeuxis challenged each other.
4) Kráneo, Morphosis, Olímpico DCOR Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., The Panther LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 7 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Morphosis did wrestle. No one made it back in after tecnico dives, ending the match in a draw.
7th defense
6) Diamante Azul, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero b Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico [Relevos IncreíblesLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 7 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Diamante Azul, working rudo, snuck in a foul and used the ropes to beat Marco. That set up a title match.

Title match sounds like it went well. They had a ref bump and Mephisto got a visual pin as if to tell the fans that Mephisto really wasn’t going to win and then Stuka hit the big splash but only for two. Mephisto used a valagueza soon after for the win. That’s a more self aware finish than usual.

That’s the second draw in four weeks, much more often than usual.

Last Tuesday was the Angel de Oro/Rey Bucanero match, so tonight’s Tuesday’s show either has a new feud picked at random or perhaps nothing at all. Very exciting. The main event has Rush weirdly on the tecnico side. Diamante Azul was on the tecnico side in Puebla and ended up feuding with Marco Corleone. That same pattern would suggest Rush versus Ultimo Guerrero as the new feud tonight.

Angel de Oro & Rey Bucanero are actually still on opposite sides of the semimain but there’s only a 50/50 chance they’ll remember they were feuding. They team with Niebla Roja, Titan, Mr. Niebla and Terrible. Drone, Fuego & Guerrero Maya take on old rudos Ephesto, Luciferno, and Felino. Luciferno is the young man on the team at 45.

Rey Cometa takes on Forastero in what should be a good lightning match. Vaquerita, Marcela and Sanely face Seductora, Metalica, and Tiffany in something that doesn’t look much good. Acero & Aereo face Pequeno Universo 2000 & Pequeno Universo in the opener.

The Crash put a date to one of the three apuesta matches they announced as doing this year: Oraculo and Black Danger will have their mask match on 09/02 in Tijuana. Black Danger’s the rudo but also probably the favorite since he’s Tijuana based and Oraculo really has only been using the character in this promotion.

Maximo teased Rush coming to The Crash, which they tease all the time and means nothing.

Usually, when you hear about a fight between a wrestler and a fan, it’s tough to find good video of it. Not when the wrestler just posts a clip himself: Garza has a video of him punching a fan from Tijuana. It sounds like the fan pulled the barrier back to cause Garza to fall, and you can see the security guy point out the fan who did it before realizing what Garza was going to do. La Mascara appears to have nearly gotten into a fight with the same fan later during the show.

AAA is telling finalists for the La Llave a La Gloria tournament to bring their gear and full identification. No S/N this time, I guess. They’re also telling fans to email for tickets if they want to be at the event. I’m sure there’s some logistical reason for it, but anyone lucha libre fan who shows up at Arena Naucalpan at 9am on a Saturday should get a space.

AAA is taking questions for Vampiro again.

Black Terry talks about returning to Japan after 17 years.

Delirio unmasked Flanagan in Arena Aficion.

Wrestling With Words reviews this week’s CMLL show.

LuchaWorld has the latest update and this week’s Poster-Mania.

Box Y Lucha #3925 has Mistico & Sam Adonis on the cover.


IWRG (SUN) 08/13/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Fly Tiger vs Atomic Star
2) Climax & Shaolin vs Demonio Infernal & Skanda
3) Bombero Infernal & Bombero Infernal Jr. vs Eterno & Lunatic Xtreme
4) Cerebro Negro & Dr. Cerebro vs Argos & Dr. Karonte
5) Emperador Azteca vs Hijo del Pantera
6) Dinamic Black, Golden Magic, Hijo De Dos Caras vs Herodes Jr., Internacional Pantera, Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
7) Black Dragón vs Gallo Frances [mask]

That mask match happened quick.

new lucha videos for the weekend of August 4th, 2017

Monday IWRG was delayed until overnight due to baseball, which might be a regular thing for the next couple of months. I didn’t have a chance to sort thru what aired, but it looked like it was a combination of Sunday undercard and the Emperador Azteca/Hijo del Pantera match that was skipped from weeks ago. I’ll get to it later in their week.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-08-05
taped 2017-06-30 @ Gimnasio Miguel Hidalgo, Puebla, Puebla
1) Dr. Wagner Jr. vs El Mesías
2) Psycho Clown vs Pagano
3) Johnny Mundo © vs Texano Jr. for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship

CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-08-05
taped 2017-08-01 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Astral, Star Black, The Panther vs Disturbio, Sagrado, Virus
2) Esfinge, Johnny Idol, Niebla Roja vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Sam Adonis
3) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Terrible, Último Guerrero

CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2017-08-05
taped 2017-07-28 @ Arena México
1) Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso vs Puma, Raziel, Tiger
2) Stuka Jr. vs Hechicero in a lightning match
3) Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Valiente vs Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-08-05
taped 2017-08-02 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Alas de Acero, Aramis, Kanon vs Kempo Jr., Monaguillo, Warrior Jr.
2) Demasiado, Diva Salvaje, Miss Gaviota vs Acero, Picudo Jr., Samot in a lumberjack rules match
3) Anubis Black, Leo, Rafy, Teelo vs Eterno, Harry The Sick, Ovett, Taylor Wolf
4) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly vs Diablo Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible

AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-29 

suicide SSP

Recapped: 07/30/2017


All the matches aired from Gimnasio Miguel Hidalgo, Puebla, Puebla, and were taped 06/30/2017 

Australian Suicide beat Bengala  
(8:20, tornillo 450 splash, good, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

Aerostar, Drago, Raptor beat Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker
(7:08, Aerostar handspring casadora cradle, good, via 
Lucha Libre AAA)

Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly beat Argenis, La Parka, Lanzeloth 
(9:15, Super Fly frog splash Lanzeloth, ok, via 
Lucha Libre AAA)

Máscara de Bronce defeated Hernandez and Kevin Kross for the #1 contedner’s briefcase
(4:56, Mascara de Bronce 450 splash Hernandez, below average, via 
Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened: 

Aerostar splash

AAA seems to be alternating tapings with vignettes – there were some on the last show, there’s not any on this taping.

Kross & Hernandez take turns at beating up Mascara de Bronce in the “main event” until Hernandez knocks Kross down by throwing Bronce at him. Kross attacks Herandnez and sets up a table on the outside. Kross considers both men before throwing Bronce out and setting up to chokeslam Hernandez over the top rope and thru the table. Johnny Mundo shows up to ask Kross what he’s doing (and it’s a good question, gonna be tough to get Hernandez over.) Kross throws Hernandez down and, while Kross & Mundo discuss their business relationship, Bronce sneaks to the top rope and lands a 450 splash for the win. Kross comes back to the ring and chokeslams Bronce thru that table. Mundo tries to order Hernandez to take care of Kross, but Hernandez doesn’t seem to agree with that idea. Kross shows off the briefcase to Mundo, and the point is he and Mundo are definitely done. The real big news is AAA figured out this briefcase was supposed to be #1 between tapings.

In the third match, Lanzeloth took out Argenis by mistake via moonsault to the floor, then Parka also mistakenly takes out referee Copetes with a dropkick. Parka is still doing fine until Chessman catches him with a punch. OGT stall, choking Parka in the corner, obviously waiting for something to happen but having to a wait longer than they seem to be expecting. Finally, someone cues Ricky Marvin’s music. Marvin, wearing a La Parka shirt, cleans house with some help from Lanzleoth – until he nearly hits Parka by mistake, then Averno actually does shoves Marvin into Parka. Averno fouls Lanzleoth. Copetes finally returns from the dead to count three. The técnicos want nothing to do with Ricky after the match – they’re upset about him disappearing and coming back to cost them the match, but it’s not explained well this week. (Impressively for a lucha libre promotion, they’ve already recut the entrance video for Poder del Norte with Carta & Tito unmasked.)

Australian Suicide & Bengala, who broke up twice and then were partners again last time we saw them, had a heated rivalry match. Suicide is definitely a rudo by this match, but wins cleanly on his second attempt at landing his finish.

The TripleMania press conference is shown.


Bronce is here to be thrown around pretty easily

The three way match was not even really a match, an angle and a couple of stunts. Bronce got tossed around the whole match, snuck in a fluee win, and then was back to being destroyed. They’re getting Kross over as much bigger deal than these two guys and I think that’s obviously the real plan but he probably needs to interact with people who are bigger deal than these two. The Mundo/Kross breakup seems way too fast, they were barely an onscreen team before it happened.

The semimain was a much better version of the Juarez trios match with the same guys. The rudos were entertaining destroying the tecnicos early, La Parka’s comedy spots didn’t monopolize the match as much, and they gave Lanzleoth much more things to do to justify his inclusion. Super Fly is finding a way to die in every match. The finish was way overbooked – Marvin returns to be a failure? – but this is still one of the better matches in the feud.

Suicide wins

The trios title match was a lot of fun, a full on sprint from the start that worked the entire time. It was worked a little bit like a CMLL match (careta leads to the comeback) but at a faster pace and some riskier spots than normally seen there. The last match was Poder Del Norte looking like a team, and the técnicos had caught up to them quite a bit with their teamwork in this match. Aerostar was especially out there, he’s really fallen in love with the shin aided springboard of late and he causally did the reverse springboard to the floor of death in the opening minutes of the match. This was only seven minutes but it felt like they packed a lot more into it, and it’s great we’re getting four more of these. I could see people liking the match even more than I did.

The opener was a fun midcard match between two rivals, the sort of thing we don’t get enough of on this show but really worked here. Both guys were really trying to make something out of this and it felt like they succeeded. It wasn’t as personal as it might have been and the neck vice killing time thing was the slowest moment, but it did follow a crazy shooting star press to the floor. They worked in some believable near falls near the end, it took Suicide two tries to hit the corkscrew SSP, and he was the right guy to win.

Stuka/Mephisto in Puebla, IWRG, Blue Demon

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (SUN) 08/06/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV]
1) Lunatic Xtreme b Celestial Boy
2) Demonio Infernal & Diablo Jr. b Fly Tiger & Shaolin
3) Argos & Dr. Karonte Jr. b Mr. Magia & Teelo
Mr. Magia replaced Mike (injury)
4) Eterno, Kempo Jr., Monaguillo b Bombero Infernal, Freelance, Hijo del Alebrije
setting up Eterno & Bombero Infernal hair match
5) Gallo Frances b Black Dragón
Gallo Frances challenged Black Dragon to a mask vs mask match.
6) Emperador Azteca, Golden Magic, Hijo De Dos Caras DQ Herodes Jr., Hijo del Pantera, Internacional Pantera
Hijo de Dos faked a foul and challenged for a title match again
7) Black Warrior & Warrior Jr. b Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan
Warrior Jr. snuck in a foul on Pirata Morgan

Frances/Dragon sounds like a foreigner losing his mask on his way out of town, which still could be fun.

MedioTiempo posted an interview with Psicosis/Ripper, which was from the last TripleMania press and might be a trasnscript of the interview he did with +LuchaTV since it’s the same subjects. It’s relevant today, because he mentions Histeria/Morphosis and Maniaco will be hopefully with him, and Morphosis is today booked in Puebla. Psicosis/Ripper also says he left CMLL on good terms, though he was still booked on a CMLL card the week he left. Likewise, Morphosis is listed tonight in Puebla but no one expects him to actually be there. Psicosis name drops Heavy Metal and Cibernetico as people AAA is talking to about coming in for the Copa TripleMania. Cibernetico’s amount of matches have diminished with the closing of Elite. Heavy Metal has disappeared on his own; only 11 known matches last year, and five this year.

One more name worth considering for as an AAA return for that match: Zorro. He was noticeably missing from all the The Crash shows, and was quietly removed from the Revolucha shows this weekend. He’s been dealing with a neck injury, bad enough that he seemed to be wrestling in a neck brace at times, so it could just be taking care of himself. Even if there’s nothing to it this weekend, he still fits the same category of stars from AAA’s past who AAA would want to reach out for their 25th Anniversary show. I’m sure they’ve asked, and it’s just about if there’s a deal to be made.

Morphosis’ match tonight isn’t all that interesting: the random lineup generation spits out the Panther kids & Soberano against Kraneo, Olimpico and whoever replaced Morphosis. The main event is strange, a relevos incriebles with rudos only one side. Essentially, Diamante Azul is a rudo for night with Negro Casas & Ultimo Guerrero against Caristicio, Marco Corleone and Mistico. It could be that a rudo just wasn’t available for that spot for whatever reason and Azul being on that side means nothing, but it also points at a Azul/Corleone match.

The big match is Stuka challenging Mephisto for the CMLL Welterweight Championship. Both men’s singles matches seem to depend on who they’re working with. They’re good trios wrestlers who haven’t shown a lot more they can do when they’re on their own. They’d had three 1v1 matches before – one in Arena Mexico, one on FanasticaMania – and Mephisto wins every time. It’ll probably the same here.

The rest of the show has Zeuxis & Sugehit running into each other again in a rare 2v2 women’s match, and a couple openers with mostly locals and nothing going on. The show airs at 9pm CT on CMLL’s YouTube.

In an in-ring promo on Saturday’s The Crash show, he said they’d be doing Jack Evans vs Bestia 666 in a hair match, Black Danger vs Oraculo in a mask match, and Daga vs Garza Jr. in a hair match by the end of the year. That last one is going to be the toughest.

El Universal says Televisa has been sued for unauthorized use of Blue Demon in the TV series of the same. It’s a really short story, but is not a surprise – articles leading into the show mentioned one of Blue Demon’s non-wrestling sons gave the ok, while luchador Blue Demon Jr. generally refused to talk about it but hinted he was very unhappy with the fictional story. The two have had disagreements over who owns the name and in what ways for years, this is just it coming back to life again.

Black Terry Jr. has amazing photos from the Zona 23 show.

the Vampiro/Mundo/Taya thing has probably been a storyline from the start

On this week’s TV, AAA aired a vignette with Johnny Mundo and Vampiro arguing over Vampiro taking the AAA Reina de Reinas championship from Taya. Among other things, you get to learn how AAA translates douchebag to Spanish.

The backstage segment appeared along side the matches AAA taped on June 30th in Puebla. There’s also a skit with Hijo del Fatnasma & Vampiro in that same room. I had assumed that, AAA had actually taped the vignettes later, to work off Twitter feuds and fill in storyline gaps, and then edited it back into the older taping. I assumed wrong.

A couple weeks ago, AAA aired two skits of Johnny Mundo calling Kevin Kross (as part of a storyline where Kross is splitting from Johnny Mundo.) Let’s look at the room

via AAA

It’s the same walls and the same duct work. I know, you don’t want to hear about duct work on Monday mornings, but here we are. These skits and the one with Vampiro telling Johnny Mundo he was taking away the Reina de Reinas title from Vampiro look to like they were taped in the same place. The Kross/Mundo aired on the July 22nd episode of AAA TV, the Aguascalientes TV was taped on July 27th, so it’s impossible they were taped in Aguascalientes. The previous time Mundo was in Mexico before that was – the June 30th Puebla show, which this skit aired along side. They had to be taped on June 30th.

Here’s what Dave Meltzer wrote in the Wrestling Observer in his July 24th edition, likely told to him by Johnny Mundo himself

The story actually dates back to when Johnny Mundo was being brought to Mexico for a photo shoot with all three of his belts. They said they were doing shoots with all the belts and asked Mundo to bring Taya’s belt with him when he came in. Then when he was there, they said they needed to shoot more photos with the Reina de Reinas belt, so asked him to leave the belt there so they could do that. Then, when they had possession of the belt back, they announced that Taya had been stripped of the title because she used a choke when she won the title from Ayako Hamada (which was back on 4/21 in Tijuana in what has been called the company’s best match of the year) and that the title could only change hands via pin or submission.

That can not be true if AAA taped those both the Vampiro & Kross vignettes in Puebla. Puebla was taped on June 30th. AAA didn’t announce the title was vacant until July 1st. Mundo taped a skit talking about AAA keeping the Reina de Reinas a day before he claims he knew AAA was taking them away. It does not add up as the truth, so it has to be a storyline.

What I think was supposed to happen is Taya was going to drop the title in Nuevo Laredo to set up the Sexy Star title win, couldn’t because of the car accident, couldn’t make it to another show to do it, they came up with this storyline to handle it, and it blew up way more than they were expecting. But don’t take my word for it, I’ve been wrong on this one – LOUD wrong on this one – from the start. It didn’t make sense to me why they would do some of the stuff they’ve done if it was a storyline and it still doesn’t really, but it looks to me like it was one from the start.

if I’m right, the practical things we can take from this

  • Johnny Mundo’s on much better terms than AAA than we thought and isn’t a certainty to drop the titles at TripleMania by any means
  • the foreigner that’s been hinted at added to the Lady Shani/Sexy Star title match at TripleMania might be Taya after all. That’ll make for a really heated match.
  • everyone in LU doesn’t really hate Vampiro and Vampiro isn’t as bad at his job as it seemed; he actually took a bullet on this one to get it over.
  • don’t tape all your vignettes in the same room if they’re supposed to happen in different cities

great match roundup, week of 2017-07-22

Drago rope climb DDT

watched in this general concept of a week

Pentagon working a really nice lucha match is a change of pace in 2017.

Recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Pentagón Dark vs Drago [Cueto Cup] and [8f] Lucha Underground: 2017-07-26 2016-05-14
great Drone, Soberano Jr., Titán vs Cuatrero, Forastero, SansónLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-28 2017-07-28
good Shockercito vs Pierrothito in a lightning match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-24 2017-07-24
good Rey Cometa vs Virus in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 25 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-25 2017-07-25
good Dragón Lee, Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 25 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-25 2017-07-25
good Texano vs the Mack [Cueto Cup] and [8f] Lucha Underground: 2017-07-26 2016-05-15
good Rey Mysterio Jr. vs PJ Black Lucha Underground: 2017-07-26 2016-05-08
good Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso vs Puma, Raziel, Tiger LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-28 2017-07-28
good Stuka Jr. vs Hechicero in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-28 2017-07-28
good Carístico, Mistico, Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-28 2017-07-28

Other matches watched

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Argenis & La Parka vs Averno & Súper Fly AAA Worldwide en Nuevo Laredo Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Julio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-22 2017-06-19
ok Hijo del Fantasma, Pagano, Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías, Kevin Kross in a relevos increíbles match AAA Worldwide en Nuevo Laredo Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Julio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-22 2017-06-19
ok Arkalis & París vs Guerrero Espacial & Perverso LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-24 2017-07-24
ok La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-24 2017-07-24
ok Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-24 2017-07-24
ok Dragón Lee, Mistico, Titán vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-24 2017-07-24
ok Carístico, Diamante Azul, Euforia vs Pierroth, Rush, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-24 2017-07-24
ok Fiero & Sangre Imperial vs Apocalipsis & Yago LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 25 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-25 2017-07-25
ok Astral, Oro Jr., Star Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Cancerbero, Sangre Azteca LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 25 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-25 2017-07-25
ok Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther vs Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado Disturbio Cmll Arena México CDMX 25.07.2017 (posted by Princesa Dorada) Disturbio Cmll Arena México CDMX 25.07.2017 (posted by Princesa Dorada) Disturbio Cmll Arena México CDMX 25.07.2017 (posted by Princesa Dorada) LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 25 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-25 2017-07-25
ok Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 25 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-25 2017-07-25
ok Eléctrico & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-28 2017-07-28
ok Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Valiente vs Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-07-28 2017-07-28
below average Estrella Divina vs Pimpinela Escarlata AAA Nuevo Laredo Junio 19 2017 Estrella Divina vs Pimpinela Escarlata (posted by Luis Ordonez) AAA Worldwide en Nuevo Laredo Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Julio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-22 2017-06-19