CMLL on 2017-02-17 

uh huh

Recapped: 02/18/2017

What happened: Ultimo Guerrero & Valiente advanced to the final of the incredible pairs tournament. Diamante Azul & Pierroth agreed to a mask match. Yoshitatsu debuted.

What was good: The opening minis match was the best match on the show, and the opening tournament match was the best of those. The Azul/Pierroth trios build up was dreadful.

Where can I watch it: It’s on my YouTube channel

Match 1: Eléctrico & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pierrothito
Arena México, 02/17/2017

  1. rudos
    • Mercurio dropkick to the head sliding dropkick Electrico (4:30)
    • Pierrothito nudo Stukita (5:02)
  2. técnicos
    • Stukita triple moonsault Pequeño Pierroth (3:32)
    • Eléctrico springboard elbow drop Mercurio (3:50)
  3. rudos
    • Pierrothito Pierrothina Stukita (4:10)
    • COR Eléctrico [Mercurio tornillo] (4:37)

Winner: rudos (1/3)
Match Time: 13:29
Notes: There are now edecanes in Volaris outfits, positioned closest to the cameras. They’re not allowed to do anything but stand there and pose, and block our view of the people who are dancing I guess. Stukita appears be imitating Silver King with his water spit. He wears a half Halcón Suriano mask to the ring.

Review: [good] Fun minis opener. They were missing the drama of a match down later in the card but they worked in more than usual at this spot (including Mercurio getting in his first tornillo in who knows when.) Stukita seems like he’s going to get a bigger role with Astral not around – maybe the #4 mini técnico, maybe the #2? – which helps freshen things up a little bit. He can do mat work with Pierrothito that were weren’t seeing from other people. This was fast paced but felt fluid, and the rudos seemed into it. Hopefully the cibernetico on Sunday goes the same way.

this is both good and bad at the same time
Mercurio tornillo

Match 2: La Vaquerita, Marcela, Sanely vs Metálica, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
Arena México, 02/17/2017

  1. rudas
    • Tiffany inverted crucifix powerbomb Marcela (6:00)
  2. técnicos
    • Vaquerita elbow drop middle rope elbow drop (3:32)
    • Sanely inverted STF Metalica (3:32)
  3. tecnicos
    • Vaquerita Rosa DDT Reina Isis (3:38)
    • Marcela double stomp Tiffany (4:14)

Winner: tecnicos (2/3)
Match Time: 13:46

Review: [ok] Better than expected, though still not good. Sanely’s opening exchange with Metalica was tough – she had to run across the ring to retry a springboard, she fell oddly on a dropkick, her own dropkick didn’t look good. Isis struggled too. Metalica has some rough moments, but this match just showed she’s way ahead of those other two. Sanely has more flashy offense than Isis, but more moments where spots go obviously wrong. Tiffany and Marcela did a good job as possible as working around Tiffany’s limitation (which mostly meant just putting Tiffany in spots and having Marcela do the running.)

Vaquerita lands hard on Isis on the elbow drop
flying Sanely

Match 3: Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Kráneo, Pierroth, Yoshitatsu
Arena México, 02/17/2017

  1. rudos
    • Kraneo running hipsmash Marco Corleone (1:45)
    • Pierroth second middle rope elbow drop Diamante Azul (2:52)
  2. rudos
    • DQ Diamante Azul [mask pull] (3:59)

Winner: rudos (1/2)
Match Time: 6:51
Notes: Diamante Azul is now just wearing the sponsor’s t-shirt, but also has masks to hand out to children (who seemed very ready for the masks to be put on them.) Azul rushes Pierroth, and the new girls are a little slow to realize they need to get out of there. Yoshitatstsu still takes his time getting introduced. Volador knocks off Violencia off the ramp. Tatsu is still wearing his Bullet Hunter gear, but he’s got half his face painted white.

Diamante Azul challenges Pierroth to a mask match while facing the crowd and not Pierroth, which seems odd. La Mascara and Rush come out to confront Azul while the rudos get Pierroth a new mask. Azul says he’ll beat Pierroth, then Rush. Pierroth accepts.

Review: [below average] maybe a generous grade! This is not good in itself and not good in what it means for the next six weeks or so of matches Never has an elbow drop made me laugh as much as the one Pierroth did in the first fall. He put so much effort into it for something that still looked bad. Tatsu put a lot less effort into his top rope wheel kick and it still looked bad. Tatsu appeared to have limited idea of what was going on, but who was exactly supposed to be communicated with him on his team? It seemed like Kraneo was directing him, but this was a tough ask for anyone to start. CMLL cutting away from a Monito/Mije fight to show Pierroth brawl badly with Azul is the worst thing they’ve done. Pierroth’s punches are awful. Pierroth is awful. This feud is pretty awful.

Volador rids himself of Pequeno Violencia

Match 4: Negro Casas & Ripper vs TerribleÚltimo GuerreroLa MáscaraEuforiaDragón Rojo Jr.Hechicero in a National Parejas Increible Tournament match and in a seeding battle royal match
Arena México, 02/17/2017

  1. Dragon Rojo Jr. out (0:48)
  2. Euforia out (1:15)
  3. Terrible out (2:21)
  4. Hechicero out (2:43)
  5. Último Guerrero out (2:54)
  6. La Mascara out (3:08)

Winner: Negro Casas & Ripper
Match Time: 3:08

no one told Terrible this was a dumb battle royal

And in the tournament itself

Match 5: Atlantis & Euforia beat Dragón Rojo Jr. & Guerrero Maya Jr. (6:33) – a good energetic tag match with the underdog team coming off as if they really had a chance. This felt like an actual match with a beginning and a middle (instead of just the end game) and was the best of this block.

Maya hits everything on the way down

Match 6: Rush & Terrible beat Hechicero & Stuka Jr. (7:47) – the feed dies during this match, and struggles the rest of the match. Significant sections of matches go missing along the way. It didn’t seem to be any big loss in this match, with Rush not doing much and Terrible looking hurt late in the win.

Match 7: Último Guerrero & Valiente beat Dragón Lee & La Máscara (6:33) – the first half of this was unwatchable due to stream issues, the second half ends with La Mascara breaking up a Dragon Lee pin. In between, Valiente surprises by taking the apron headscissors but that’s about it.

Dragon Lee takes out Valiente

Match 8: Mistico & Negro Casas defeated Ripper & Titán (6:10) – match is going along OK when Titan is counted down for three by Tirantes on a Mistico huracanrana. Titan did wait until the last moment to kick out, but he did, and it clearly wasn’t meant to be the finish. Tirantes kicked Titan out and this stumbles to a finish. The Titan/Mistico stuff seemed interesting and it would’ve been neat to see how they finished.

Match 9: Atlantis & Euforia defeated Rush & Terrible (4:02) – feed is at it’s worst during this, going out at the finish (though you can see it coming.) Terrible accidentally punches Rush to lead to the team’s defeat in a forgettable fight.

Match 10: Último Guerrero & Valiente defeat Mistico & Negro Casas (4:14) – wasn’t as good as it would’ve seemed with the names involved, Casas & Valiente even do a double duck down bit. They seemed to be rushing or just short on time.

Match 11: Último Guerrero & Valiente defeat Atlantis & Euforia (7:14) – Último Guerrero wrestling the same UG match, but the novelty of him doing with Euforia. Valiente working rudo was sort of interesting, but this match wasn’t.

that is a lot of Euforia to flip over

Black Terry & Diablo Jr. I win El Protector, Puebla preview

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (SUN) 02/19/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Estrellas del Ring]
2) Cadillac & Kanon b Acero & Picudo Jr.
straight falls
3) Cerebro Negro, Power Bull, Súper Mega b Pantera I, Rafy, Teelo
Power Bull replaced Yakuza.
4) Danny Casas b Veneno
Danny Casas won via chair shot
5) Apolo Estrada Jr. COR Relámpago
Relampago couldn’t return after a tope. Apolo wants a title match.
6) Alfa & Dragón Fly b Hijo del Alebrije, Diablo Jr., Black Dragón, Hip Hop Man, Imposible, Demonio Infernal [El Protector]
Alfa replaced Emperador Azteca on Tuesday. Winning team will get a title match against Veneno & Chicano
7) Black Dragón & Internacional Pantera b Hijo De Dos Caras & Hijo del Alebrije [El Protector, quarterfinal] Hip Hop Man y Mr. Electro vs Negro Navarro y el Demonio Infernal en  Protector 2017. (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
Herodes Jr. attacked Hijo de Dos Caras
8) Black Terry & Diablo Jr. I b Herodes Jr. & Imposible [El Protector, quarterfinal]
Black Terry replaced Pirata Morgan. Imposible switched teams with Hip Hop Man.
9) Demonio Infernal & Negro Navarro b Hip Hop Man & Mr. Electro [El Protector, quarterfinal]
Hip Hop Man (switched teams with Imposible) & Mr. Electro had issues.
10) Dragón Fly & Villano IV b Alfa & Máscara Año 2000 Jr. [El Protector, quarterfinal] Villano IV y Dragón Fly vs Máscara Año 2000 Jr y Alfa en el Protector 2017 (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
11) Black Terry & Diablo Jr. I b Black Dragón & Internacional Pantera [El Protector, semifinal]
12) Demonio Infernal & Negro Navarro b Dragón Fly & Villano IV [El Protector, semifinal]
13) Black Terry & Diablo Jr. I b Demonio Infernal & Negro Navarro [El Protector, final] Black Terry y Diablo Primero Jr vs Negro Navarro y el Demonio Infernal. (posted by Estrellas del Ring) El protector  DIABLO JR contra DEMONIO (posted by lucha libre)
Black Terry & Diablo Jr. win the tournament and a tag title shot against Veneno & Chicano. This was Terry’s fourth tag match of the day.

Four matches is a long day, but Terry & Diablo have a decent chance of winning the tag tag titles. Rob posted video of the Relampago dive; poor guy destroys himself.

Black Terry Jr. has photos from yesterday’s Lucha Memes show.

CMLL has the most ordinary show possible tonight in Puebla: five matches, all trios matches, absolutely nothing to any of them. The main event is Dragon Lee, Mistico & Volador against Euforia, Niebla Roja and Yoshitatsu. Tatsu hasn’t shown a lot in Mexico so far, but this is a better chance to have a decent match than Friday. The semimain has Angel de Oro, Maximo and Valiente vs Hechicero, Rey Bucanero and Terrible, where Hechicero is tonight’s replacement for the injured Shocker. Blue Panther Jr., The Panther, Triton face Kraneo, Olimpico, Ripper in the tercera in what might be the best match on the show, which is to say there may not be a good match on this show. First two matches have the usual mix of Puebla luchadors and low ranked DF guys: Lestat, Pegasso and Tigre Rojo Jr. face Disturbio, Espiritu Maligno, and Policeman, and Flyer, Millenium, Zaeta Roja versus Guerrero Espacial, King Jaguar and Perverso open the show.

CultIcon has a preview of the show. It’ll air at 9pm on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

La Union has an interview with luchador Chamaco Valaguez. The upside down neckbreaker called La Valagueza is named after him, and he explains his other job as a butcher gave him lots of practice to carrying large weights over one shoulder, making it easy to do the same with an opponent. Valaguez says El Anibal was the best luchador, talks about his match with Mocho Cota as his best match.

LigerFever has a full transcript of Penta el Zero M on Los Reyes del Biutiful.

KDNA promotions seems offended by whatever Konnan said last night in Monterrey, posting a photo of their mostly full arena and accusing Konnan of being on drugs.

Lucha 2000 #861 hypes LA Park vs Rush.

PWR’s debut show on FloSlam is this Saturday.

Lucha Memes, Pierrothito advances in minis tournament

CMLL (SAT) 02/18/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Bengala, Flyer, Leono b Akuma, Camorra, Cholo
tecnicos took 1/3
2) Estrellita, La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit b Amapola, La Comandante, Zeuxis
Tecnicas took 2/3. Sugehit beat Zeuxis to set up a title match next week.
3) Blue Panther, Drone, Tritón b Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys
Tecnicos took 2/3. Dragon Rojo was hurt at the end of the match, but said he was OK later on.
4) Titán, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Rey Bucanero
Volador replaced Caristico. Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Último Guerrero DQ Rush
UG took 2/3, Rush for the DQ.

CMLL was probably pretty aware Caristico was missing all the shows this weekend whenever they sent Volador in his place for the Lucha Libre Boom show, but decided to make no effort to announce substitutions on their own shows this weekend or even acknowledge that changes were being made.

CMLL (SUN) 02/19/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Artillero & Inquisidor b Robin & Sensei
Rudos took 2/3.
2) Fuego, Magnus, Starman b Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Nitro
tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Pierrothito b Eléctrico, Pequeño Astro, Stukita, Fugaz, Aéreo, Mercurio, Pequeño Violencia, Pequeño Universo 2000, Espíritu Maligno [CMLL MINI, #1 Contenders]
Arena Mexico debuts for Fugaz (Guadalajara), Aereo (Puebla) and Espiritu Magino (Puebla – he’d wrestled in Arena Coliseo prior.) Rudos vs tecnicos. Eliminations: Pequeno Universo (Fugaz), Aereo (Espiritu Maligno), Pequeno Violencia (Astro; each of the new guys got a pinfall to start), Fugaz (Mercurio), Espiritu Maligno (Stukita), Astro (Pierroth; each of the new guys pinned in the same sequence), Mercurio & Electrico (DDQ), and Pierrothito beat Stukita to advance. He’ll face next week’s winner on 03/05
4) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Stuka Jr. b Bobby Villa, Felino, Misterioso Jr.
5) Atlantis, Máximo Sexy, Mistico DQ Cavernario, Ephesto, Mephisto
Mistico replaced Caristico, Cavernario fouled him for the DQ.

Neither of those guys – or Caristico – are booked next week, so the main event DQ was just to do a DQ.

The lineup for next week has another minis cibernetico, so this was one of those times where CMLL just doesn’t explain what they were doing. Pierrothito and Pequeno Violencia are calling themselves the Pequeno Ingobernables now.

Lucha Memes (SUN) 02/19/2017 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México [@TKD_117, +LuchaTV]
1) Demasiado & Diva Salvaje b Baby Star & Black Metal
2) Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako b Totem I & Totem II
money thrown in
3) Demus 3:16 b Astrolux
Astrolux looked good before Demus destroyed him.
4) Virus b Belial
very good match
5) Black Terry & Negro Navarro © b El Cuatrero & Sansón [Arena Coliseo TAG]
first defense. Good match.
6) Alas de Acero & Iron Kid © b Dragón Negro & Sádico [EdM TAG]
Crazy match.
7) Yoshitatsu b Aramis
Short match. Aramis looked good.
8) Hechicero b Ronnie Mendoza
best match on the show

Sounds like it was a fun show. Hechicero/Mendoza seems like an obvious pick for one of the VOD matches, but they could go with a few different choices for match 2.

Jocay took a Periscope of Penta vs Rey Horuz from New York today.

Vampiro says AAA sold out their show in Tijuana on Sunday. Elegido says they sold out in Morelos today.

Konnan & Zorro showed up as a surprises on tonight’s Arena Coliseo Monterrey show, helping out Garza Jr. Konnan talked about “cleaning up the damage other wrestling promoters have done” with the Crash and independents. The big group appearance of La Rebelion in Monterrey is tomorrow.

Mistico was scheduled for a show in Autlautla, Estado de Mexico, but says he canceled due to not getting payment from the promoter.

Trauma II appeared for the first time in months at a show in Iraputo.

Takashi Sasaki and Daisuke Masaoka are announced for the DTU show on 03/24 in Arena Aficiona 03/26 show in Tulancingo. As mentioned on the podcast, there’s a really good chance that 03/24 DTU show is another iPPV.

AAA posted this week’s TV show.

Garza Jr. is interviewed on this week’s The Dave Dynasty show.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Tampico luchador Relampago Gutierrez passed away.


CMLL (SUN) 02/26/2017 Arena México
1) Magia Blanca, Magnus, Oro Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Sangre Azteca, Skándalo
2) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Johnny Idol vs Felino, Luciferno, Tiger
3) Último Dragóncito vs Fantasy, Aéreo, Shockercito, Reiko, Demus 3:16, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Relámpago, Pequeño Joker [cibernetico, CMLL MINI, #1 Contenders]
4) Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Vangellys
5) Marco Corleone, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero

Released in Box Y Lucha, may change when it’s posted on CMLL’s website. More outside names in the minis match. Reiko and Relampago are from Guadalajara, there may be confusingly two different Relampagos wrestling in Guadalajara, or this one wrestles indie shows too. Pequeño Joker is usually Mini Joker in Puebla. (The original CMLL minis used “Mini”, CMLL switched to Pequeño after that group left for AAA.) Ultimo Dragoncito & Shockercito are the two obvious favorites. CMLL wasn’t afraid to do a tecnico/tecnico minis title match previously, so a rudo/rudo final isn’t out of the question.

como estaz 4×11: Terry’s friend Gersom

(this is not Gersom)

Rob & TKD are back in Mexico, and they bring along Black Terry Jr. and Gersom of Sensacional de Luchadors to talk about the shows they’ve seen the first couple days of the trip. I ask questions along the way. There’s discussing of the Friday night Lucha Libre Boom show, Juventued Guerrera’s Super X show (with a strange referee), and Saturday night in Arena Coliseo. Plus, we talk with Gersom about how got into filming lucha libre and discuss how we think the current rise in paid lucha libre content is going to work out. The podcast runs just about two hours.

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Thanks for listening. We’ll be back in a month, if not sooner.


Ultimo Guerrero & Valiente advance, La Llave a la Gloria, LLB

photo by Black Terry Jr

CMLL (FRI) 02/17/2017 Arena México [CMLL, CultIcon, Estrellas del RIng, SuperLuchas, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Eléctrico & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pierrothito
2) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Sanely b Metálica, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
Tecnicas took 2/3.
3) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. DQ Kráneo, Pierroth, Yoshitatsu
straight falls in a poor match, with Azul unmasking Pierroth for the DQ.. Azul & Pierroth agreed to a mask match at Dos Leyendas
4) Negro Casas & Ripper vs Terrible, Último Guerrero, La Máscara, Euforia, Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero [natl pi, seeding battle royal]
all rudos in the match
5) Atlantis & Euforia b Dragón Rojo Jr. & Guerrero Maya Jr. [natl pi, 8f]
Rojo unmasked Maya after the match
6) Rush & Terrible b Hechicero & Stuka Jr. [natl pi, 8f]
7) Último Guerrero & Valiente b Dragón Lee & La Máscara [natl pi, 8f]
8) Mistico & Negro Casas b Ripper & Titán [natl pi, 8f]
9) Atlantis & Euforia b Rush & Terrible [natl pi, quarterfinal]
10) Último Guerrero & Valiente b Mistico & Negro Casas [natl pi, quarterfinal]
11) Último Guerrero & Valiente b Atlantis & Euforia [natl pi, semifinal]
UG & Valiente face Volador & Cavernario next week

Ultimo Guerrero wins! Ultimo Guerrero winning next week seems like the most likely outcome.

The recaps are very definite on Pierroth and Diamante Azul agreeing to a mask match. The old theory was CMLL would never have Pierroth wager his mask because (as most people know), he’s already lost a mask in Arena Mexico. The old theory doesn’t appear to be correct. This would be a lackluster match for Homenaje a Dos Leyendas but that doesn’t seem to be a concern and the challenges are said to have gotten a big reaction.

There’s still a month away from the show, and time for the main event to change. The press conference locks it in – sometimes they come right after mask challenges like that, sometimes they wait until a couple weeks before the show.

LLB (FRI) 02/17/2017 Arena Lopez Mateos [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), R de Rudo]
1) Epidemia, Kid Jaguar, Osiris b Devil Terror, Macho IV, Macho V
2) Mini Pinochito b Felinito, Bracito De Plata, Súper Loco, Águila Solitaria, Caramelito, Panterita [LLB MINI]
Aguila was stretched out after hitting the barrier on a tope
3) Atomik Star, Fly Star, Heronia, Toxin Boy b Araña de Plata Jr., Crazy Star (F), Lunatik Fly, the Tiger (Tamaulipas)
Star Warrior (Black Warrior Jr.) attacked Atomic Star after the match.
4) Axxel, Fandango, Golden, Kempo Dragón b Ninja de Fuego, Sagrado, Shadow, Tony Rivera
Axxel submitted Sagrado. Challenges followed.
5) Carta Brava Jr. (IWL), Cerebro Negro, Fantasma de la Ópera b Apolo Estrada Jr., Eterno, Fresero Jr.
Fresero was stretched out.
6) Aero Boy & Violento Jack b Cíclope & Miedo Extremo and Ángel o Demonio & Ovett and Halloween & X-Fly
7) Black Warrior, Juventud Guerrera, Súper Crazy DQ Mr. Águila, Ronnie Mendoza, Volador Jr.
Volador replaced Carsitico (injury?). Warrior fouled Volador for the DQ.

Sounds like this was a good show from the people who were there. Seemed decently full in Arena Lopez Mateos. Still no update on how badly Caristico’s hurt, but obviously it’s some issue since he’s been gone all week.

Goya Kong won the women’s cage match in Arena Neza. Building looks about half full.

Saturday Arena Coliseo has Rush vs Ultimo Guerrero in the main event. AAA is in Tijuana with a three way tag match. Martinez is running a show with Violento Jack vs Penta in Texas.

Sunday Arena Mexico is a mostly normal show with a minis cibernetico. The final two face off next week for the vacant CMLL Minis championship. (That match probably should be stream this week, definitely next week, but no idea if either will be streamed.) Sunday’s match is the debut of Arena Puebla’s Astro, but he’s really more Contla, Tlaxcala’s Astro. His hometown paper notes he’ll be the first Tlaxcala luchador to wrestle in Arena Mexico in modern times. Tlaxcala is one of the smaller Mexican states, though densely populated. It just doesn’t seem to have much of a lucha libre infrastructure – most of the ‘locals’ working shows there are from nearby Puebla. (That article also mention Astro’s real name.)

A few more notes on the La Llave a la Gloria contest. The general message was the same as with the Psycho/Wagner mask match: everything’s not just fine in AAA, they’re having their biggest and best year ever. It’s not crystal clear how many winners there will be; some reports just mention one winner but second and third place awards, some said each a man/woman/mini/exotico, some said exotico was a maybe. I think it’s probably safe to assume they’re working all of this out as they go and not to expect to stick to exactly what they’ve said in February by the time TripleMania comes around. MedioTiempo’s report notes that AAA said luchadors beyond the winners may be signed, which makes sense and is the norm in any talent search. Dinastia, Mamba and Nino Hamburguesa were brought on as examples of people who’ve achieved the dream of making it to AAA. Dinasita won the Quien Pinta Por La Corona contest. Mamba & Hamburguesa did not, but did well enough that they were brought back in later on.

Vampiro emphasized they don’t need someone with great ability, but with great heart. The plan is to make this an annual thing. (Like with the previous contest, that’s probably up to the sponsors.) Vampiro hypes it as being previously impossible to join AAA, which I guess means Dave the Clown did the impossible. In truth, AAA doesn’t seem to have the time/resources to go search for talent that’s not presented to them, so this is a way to get more people to come to them. Vampiro says he’s going to have veterans like Wagner, Parka, Marvin, Averno and Chessman help him teach the new guys.

SuperLuchas is the only one I’ve seen so far who got a quote from Dorian Roldan about the logo. He says it’s tough to know who came up with what, but AAA definitely doesn’t want to offend, sometimes mistakes happen, and this is just the first teaser for La Llave a la Gloria – implying we’ll see a different logo in the future. (It’s really not tough to know; the Arizona lucha libre group had been using the logo for years, Dorian says this idea started six months ago. FWIW, I do suspect it was Record or Roshfrans who came up with this logo and Roldan is just being a good partner by not blaming them.)  Dorian also says Vampiro was one of many people AAA considered for the director of talent position, Dorian also reaffirmed the idea of closer bonds between AAA and Lucha Underground, saying that’s his goal as “head of Lucha Underground”. I know there’s some drama about the Lucha Underground organizational chart or whatever but, at least for the Mexican press, Dorian was presenting himself as the guy on the top of the pyramid.

Marco Corleone had thoughts about what AAA is actually looking for in this contest. People who win are going to be paid in mild TV exposure, and should expect not to be paid much in money beyond that. It’s very noticable AAA is promising chances but not saying how the winner is actually going to get paid for winning.

Alberto, Tinieblas Jr., Zumbi and Hip Hop Man are doing an interview on Wednesday. That could have more details on the Distriomania shows in May.

DTU announced Takashi Sasaki for their 03/24 show.

+LuchaTV has a new edition of Aqui Esta La Lucha

LuchaWorld has their latest podcast.


CMLL (FRI) 02/24/2017 Arena México
1) Robin & Star Jr. vs Cancerbero & Raziel
2) Esfinge, Soberano Jr., Tritón vs Misterioso Jr., Okumura, Sagrado
3) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
4) Ángel de Oro vs Dragón Rojo Jr. [lightning]
5) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone vs Pierroth, Rush, Yoshitatsu
6) Cavernario & Volador Jr. vs Último Guerrero & Valiente [natl pi, final]

Yoshitatsu seems to be with the Ingobernables on Fridays, but just a random rudo other days. Angel de Oro & Rey Bucanero did a split up on last week’s show, Dragon Rojo & Guerrero Maya did a split up last night, so obviously teh follow up is Angel de Oro vs Dragon Rojo. Should be good anyway. Main event really should be too.

CMLL TRAGEDIAS (SAT) 03/04/2017 Deportivo Pavón, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal
1) ? vs ??
2) Metálico & Skándalo vs Demasiado & Magnético
3) Marcela & Sanely vs Dalys & Zeuxis
4) Bobby Z & Dragón Rojo Jr. vs El Cuatrero & Sansón and Bengala & Rey Bucanero
5) Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero
6) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Máximo vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush

A Brazo de Plata 40th Anniversary show. He’s not wrestling on this one – though he is listed on one the next day. This is probably also a fundraiser for his medical expenses, and a 40 year veteran who’s been on top for 30 years still needing charily shows to pay for wrestling related injuries is probably a good reason not to join the wrestling business. Goya Kong & Psycho Clown can’t wrestle on the show, but will sign autographs.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-02-14

Star Jr. moonsault

Recapped: 02/16/2017

What happened: Ephesto pinned Volador twice to get a title shot next week. That’s about it.

Also, there’s a new Roshfrans mat. Or at least it seemed new to me. It’s very black. The CMLL logo is now on screen the entire show (which is how it is often on the NJPW World version of this show.)

What was good: a This was one of those shows where I rated pretty much everything OK. They’re always different levels of OK, but they’re all in the same range where you don’t really need to go back to watch them.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel. (more…)

Torneo Increible de Parejas, Yoshitastu, La Llave a la Gloria


Tonight’s the second block of the CMLL Torneo Increible de Parejas. Volador & Cavernario made it thru last week’s group, and would work as opponents for pretty much anyone. Block B has about four teams who are at the usual level of those who win these tournaments, and about four who would be Valiente type surprises. The long shots are easy to dismiss: Hechicero & Stuka, Titan & Ripper, and Guerrero Maya & Dragon Rojo all could be fun teams, but aren’t usual main eventers. Rush is, but CMLL’s done very little with Terrible, and that’s enough to dismiss that team too.

Euforia doesn’t get a lot more than Terrible, but Atlantis & Euforia have won this tournament before and Atlantis wins this tournament half the time, so they may go away. Dragon Lee & La Mascara is last year’s anniversary match as a team, which could mean they work together and go along way, but probably means they’ll betray each other instead. (Rush vs La Mascara seems inevitable.) Ultimo Guerrero & Valiente are probably the favorites because Ultimo Guerrero is involved. I think Negro Casas & Mistico would set up the bigger tournament final next week, with teammates against teammates on both sides.

The tournament has no bad teams, everything could be a quality match, but time and angles will likely prevent the matches from being too good.

The rest of the card is not all that much. Yoshitatsu debuts in the tercera. (CMLL changed all of their lineup this morning to make his name one word as used in NJPW, instead of the two word “Yoshi Tatsu” spelling used in WWE.) He says he’s in until March 4th. Tatsu seemed to be turning heel and is a rudo on CMLL shows, though that could just be CMLL reflexively booking a foreigner as a rudo. We’ve seen Nakamura and Naito come to Mexico to tweak their characters before introducing those changes in NJPW, and I suspect that’s what is going on here.

Tatsu pulls a rough match to start, teaming with Kraneo & Pierroth against Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone and Volador. That’ll be mostly about the Pierroth/Diamante Azul feud. CMLL’s now five Fridays out from the Homenaje a Dos Leyendas show and the main event should be starting to take shape. It’s about time for mask challenges to be made (and more people to get sucked in, if they’re going for a cage match.)

The other two matches are a minis match (Electrico & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pierroth), which just happens to include the four best choices for next minis champion, and a women’s match (La Vaqureita, Marcela, Sanely vs Metalica, Reina Isis, Tiffany) which seems a bad idea. Metalica is officially a endorsed as a good luchadora if this is a good match, because she’s not been given much help.

CultIcon has a preview of the show, which I always enjoy reading but definitely more so on the days where I only realize I typed the wrong women’s matches after noticing he’s talking about a different one.

The show starts at the usual start time of 8:30pm, airing on ClaroSports. I’m not going to be around – I’m going to AAW, where I’ll see Hijo del Fantasma versus Low Ki and Rey Fenix in trios action – but I’ll try my best to record it remotely anyway.

There’s another notable show tonight in the Mexico City area. Lucha Libre Boom runs Arena Lopez Mateos with a random Caristico, Mr. Aguila, and Ronnie Mendoza versus Black Warrior, Juventud Guerrera, and Super Crazy trios main event. I guess Caristico/Warrior, Aguila/Juvy and Mendoza/Crazy all have history but it looks odd together. Semimain is a four way extreme match and there’s more Mexico City indie guys on the rest of the show.

AAA held a press conference today, mostly to talk about the La Llave a la Gloria contest. The video is here, and, as you can see, they still used the stolen logo. Maybe that’ll come up in post panel interviews. Most of the details about the contest were already known – sign up closes in 5 days, the tryout is a week from Saturday, winner on TripleMania – but that tryout was better explained here as the first stage in a contest that will last all the way thru August. Before, they mentioned it as just being one winner, but now it’s one winner in minis, female, exotico and men’s division. (That means TripleMania will have a Relevos AAA – at least Dinastia has a shot at making the card.)

There’s two over riding themes to the contest: riding the current patriotic wave in Mexico by trying to boost the nation’s wrestling, and AAA as a promotion that’s created new stars for 25 years creating one more in the winner of this contest. That’s kind of the reaction to departures: AAA has unyielding faith in their ability to create new stars, so while those departures may hurt in this moment, they’ll made those guys and they’ll make the guys who replace them. (They and CMLL are pretty alike in this aspect.)

The big reveal was Vampiro as the new director of talent for AAA. (Or it would’ve been reveal if Leo Riano didn’t write about it two days ago.) Essentially, he’s taking over Konnan’s position, as those two guys continue to be linked forever. There had been reports of Vampiro working in this role all the way back to last year’s Lucha World Cup, but it had never been made official and Konnan even recently said Vampiro had left AAA. If there was an issue, it’s obviously worked out. Vampiro gave a strong pro-AAA and pro-Lucha Libre speech to close the press conference.

MedioTiempo talked to Penta el Zero M about his AAA exit. In this one, Penta says he never told AAA he was leaving, but he had previously had conversations with AAA about problems he was having and did not feel AAA was listening to him. Since they weren’t listening to him, he didn’t feel there was a point in telling him he was leaving. Penta notes Zorro did give AAA notice, and claims AAA is trying block Zorro from working places just the same. (Zorro hasn’t seem to confirm this – he did RT me mentioning in on Twitter, but Zorro’s like a lot of luchadors who will seem to blindly RT anything which mentions their name.) Penta wants promoters to contact him directly if they want him to get him booked; he knows there’s a perception that Konnan convinced him and others to quit AAA , but Penta wants it clear that this was his own decision and he’s handling his own business.

Flamita & Hijo de Octagon were on opposite sides of the match for maybe the first time Wednesday in San Luis Potosi. Sabor del Ring says the match was more a feud between Flamita & Golden Magic then a working off what was a big story last year – Golden Magic stole the pin on Octagon at the end from Flamita. (Bandido replaced Jack Evans in the match, though Jack was still there on crutches.)

Super Comando vs Artillero has been added to the GH show at Gimnasio Hercules on 02/26. Super Comando has been back in Mexico this month, though his name hasn’t shown up much. He was in the US for almost all of 2016.

The AAA spot show in San Luis Potosi has a 11 person Copa Hijo del Perro Aguayo. Joe Lider is the only Perro del Mal left and he’s in it, though former members and associates Texano Jr., Averno, Hijo del Fantasma and Ayako Hamada are involved. Ayako showed up at AAA San Luis Potosi a while back but hasn’t been seen elsewhere much, perhaps she’s living in the area?

RobViper has a music video of Elite 05/04/16

Segunda reviews some recent matches, has strong feelings on Delta/Galactar.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Fuego en el Ring has a new edition of their podcast. I really need an audio feed of these podcasts.

Lucha Underground Season 2 starts airing on KIX TV in south east Asia (think Malaysia) this Monday.

A photographer talks about her experience shooting ringside at DTU show in 2015, with photos. I do like the photographer thinking that maybe they wouldn’t be allowed to take photos, when I see a half dozen people at ringside with camera phones on half the indie shows these days.

Tony Rodriguez is looking hard for a partner for the RIOT show.


NGX (SAT) 03/25/2017 Gimnasio Factores Mutuos, Monterrey, Nuevo León
1) Xtreme Boy vs Gemelo Muerte
2) Demenzía vs Sol Naciente
3) Lord Byron vs Psicótico, Core
4) Epydemius vs Centinela, Guerrillero, Último Ninja
5) Aeroboy & Violento Jack vs Daisuke Masaoka & Takashi Sasaki

Masaoka & Sasaki are from FREEDOMS in Japan, where Violento Jack & Miedo Extremo spent the second half of 2016. It’s a safe assumption they’re working the 03/24 DTU show in Arena Aficion,

CMLL Puebla: 2017-02-13 

couldn’t believe they did this

Recapped: 02/15/2017

What happened: Rush cheated to beat Diamante Azul. Virus won a cibernetico.

What was good: The cibernetico was the one good match on the show, though it was overall better than usual.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s YouTube channel. (more…)

lucha TV preview for weekend of February 17th

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Not exactly Mexican wrestling, but Tim pointed out WWC’s Saturday and Sunday shows are moving to 1pm ET, an hour later than they had been airing. That change is not reflected on my TV’s guide; you may just want to extend your recording an extra hour if you DVR the show to be safe.

(We’re also at the point where I’m going to be canceling WAPA soon if no other lucha turns up. I think I’m giving it a little bit longer, but not much. I can always resubscribe later.)

Yoshi Tatsu debuts Friday, and is also on the Monday Puebla show.

Beyond the matches to finish out the Toluca taping, AAA promising Mesias and Pagano having a skit. So that’ll be fun.

Between CMLL and IWRG, there’s two different tag team tournaments this week.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-02-11 

Mascara de Bronce soars thru space

Recapped: 02/14/2017

What happened: a Faby Apache cost OGT a match. The OGT strangely blamed this on Joe Lider. He and Kahn are the final two Perros del Mal. We found out the Mesias/Pagano feud stemmed from an attack on Dave the Clown and I will not get over this no matter how many times I type it. Dave the Clown!

This is Zorro’s final AAA match (at least for now) after 17 years with the promotion. Zorro knew he was leaving, though maybe not that this was his last match – he’s said he would’ve wanted to work his remaining dates if allowed – but no one else knows. There’s no reference to it during the commentary (which was done live, so they wouldn’t have noticed.) There’s also no attempt to down play or cut him out like the Rebelion guys, with the possible exception of the OGT/Apaches recap cutting out the Xinetez’ involvement.

What was good: The opener was fun. The main event is an interesting Angelico & Australian tag match sandwiched around a long La Parka comedy bit. The other match occurred.

Where can I watch it: It’s on AAA’s channel, and there’s handhelds around if you need all the AAA you can get.

Previously: Dr. Wagner & Psycho Clown agreed to a maks match, again. Aerostar & Super Fly less dramatically got to an apuesta match. Lady Shani won, challenged Taya for a title match, didn’t really get a yes or no but did get beat up. OGT beat the Apaches. (Zorro and the Xinetez’s interference is omitted from this video package.) (more…)