CMLL Puebla: 2016-11-21 

a great sequence
a great sequence

Recapped: 11/21/2016

What happened: Dragon Lee kept his title over Pólvora.

What was good: That match! It was pretty good. I didn’t care much for the rest of the show, but most of it was OK.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel.


great match roundup, week of 2016-11-05

Prince Puma
Prince Puma

this week’s shows

No Elite this week. Hooray for Lucha Underground (though there’s a decent amount of good stuff after the cut.) We’re done with October, so I’ve updated the MOTYC list. I’m surprised how much stuff I’ve liked considering how dry the last month was: no Excellent in October, about 5 Greats.

Recommended Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Máscarita Sagrada vs Famous B Lucha Underground: 2016-11-09 2016-03-27
great Mil Muertes vs Prince Puma [grave consequences] Lucha Underground: 2016-11-09 2016-03-27

everything else


Puebla preview, CMLL weekend lineups


Tonight’s Puebla show has Dragon Lee versus Polvora. That should be pretty good! Polvora is no one’s most favorite wrestler, but Polvora usually has great title matches against guys like Dragon Lee and Dragon Lee just has really great title matches. This seems like a match to go out of your way to see.

The actual main event is Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Johnny Idol versus Hechicero, Shocker, and Vangellys, which seems destined to be a quick match to get out of there (but perhaps Hechicero in the main event means they’re already setting up a title match for him.) The fourth match is Angel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Titan versus Bobby Z, Kraneo and Okumura. The Batallon del Muerte team with Arkangel face Rey Samuray, Soberano & Pegasso in a match I’d be more excited for a year or so ago. There’s two locals debuting. Sombra Diabolika teams with King Jaguar & Fuerza Chicana against Paris, Araklis and Asturiano in the second match. The show opens with father and son, Centella Roja and debuting Hijo del Centella Roja, facing Arez & Malayo.

CultIcon has a preview of the show. It’ll air at 9pm CT.

NJPW announced Rush has been added to the FantasticaMania tour. That’ll be good times. It also means he and Natio have a real chance of winning the World Tag League, since they could conceivable challenge for the IWGP tag titles on those shows.

Black Terry Jr. has photos of the Zona 23 show under a tent in Tultitlan.

Segunda Caida reviews Lucha Underground 3×7.


CMLL (SAT) 11/26/2016 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala & Leono vs Apocalipsis & Inquisidor
2) La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit, Skadi vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Metálica
3) Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., The Panther vs Bobby Z, Forastero, Sansón
4) Blue Panther, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
5) Diamante Azul, Máximo Sexy, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Shocker, Terrible

Third and fourth matches look pretty good.

CMLL (SUN) 11/27/2016 Arena México
1) Robin & Sensei vs Camorra & Cholo
2) Magia Blanca, Oro Jr., Stigma vs Hijo del Signo, Metálico, Nitro
3) Ángel de Oro, Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Sangre Azteca, Skándalo, Virus
4) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Kráneo, Pólvora
5) Marco Corleone, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, La Máscara, Mephisto

Valiente is in a higher position than Caristico.

CMLL LI (SUN) 11/27/2016 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Chik Tormenta & La Pantera vs La Magnifica & Súper Estrella
2) Flash (Jalisco), Flash I, Flash II vs Gallo, Ráfaga, Ráfaga Jr. and Freezer, Furia Nazi, Furia Roja and Antrax, Centinela, Évola [Copa Dinastia Tapatia 2016]
first part
3) Hijo del Solar, Huracán Ramírez Jr., Pantera vs Canek Jr., Hijo del Fishman, Septiembre Negro Jr.
4) Huracán Ramírez, Rayman, Solar I vs Fuerza Guerrera, Satánico, Universo 2000 Jr.
5) El Fantasma, Máscara Sagrada, Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs Canek, Cien Caras Jr., Máscara Año 2000

Next Sunday in Guadalajara is the previous announced Legends show.

11/20 AAA TV Results (Ciudad Juárez)


AAA TV (SUN) 11/20/2016 Gimnasio Municipal Jose Neri Santos, Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua [AAA]
1) El Apache, Lady Shani, Mini Psycho Clown b Big Mami, Niño Hamburguesa, Octagoncito
2) Pimpinela Escarlata b Mamba [bull terrier]
3) Averno & Chessman COR Faby Apache & Mary Apache
Tirantes helped the OGTs like usual, this time dragging Averno back in the ring after he’d been knocked out on the floor and counting out Mary. Faby challenged Tirantes to a match, and Tirantes accepted.
4) Daga, Joe Lider, Pentagón Jr. b Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown
The Traidor Clowns attacked the Perros after the loss, and fought security as well.
5) Pagano b Dr. Wagner Jr., Psycho Clown
Unsurprisingly, the rudos teamed up to beat Psycho, with the hometown luchador winning. Wagner took Psycho’s mask afterwards.
6) Garza Jr., La Parka, Texano Jr. b Brian Cage, Johnny Mundo, Marty Casaus
La Parka was honored for reaching 20 years of wrestling at the start of the show. The tecnicos gave him a cake, and he smashed his own face into it. Marty was the surprise luchador. Mundo beat Garza after Taya got involved. The Clowns helped attacked the tecnicos post match. Los Perros ran the rudos off post match, with Pentagon again challenging Mundo.

Air Date: It would normally 12/03 & 12/10 – except they’re not taping again until 12/17. So something else is probably airing 12/03 and this is more 12/10 & 12/17.

Felt like just a filler show going in and it looks that way; two more weeks of TV to stretch out to whenever Guerra de Titanes is happening. The one real development is the Hijo del Tirantes/Faby Apache match. It’s not at where they thought they were going, but it makes sense – Faby and Tirantes have been feuding for six months or the entire time Faby has been a tecnica, whatever way you want to think about it. Hijo del Tirantes was a wrestler when he was starting out and still wrestles from time to time in Xalapa: he’s wrestling for a title in a couple weeks. He also wrestled way back on the 2011 Rey de Reyes. It’s another match I’m not all that interested in but makes some sense to do given how much time they’ve spent on him.

Nothing else seems to have happens on this show. Dave the Clown was group in the with the rudo allies, but it might not mean anything – if you could look back at group photos of the (many many) past rudo factions, there’d extra guys in the photos one taping just because they were booked for that taping who wouldn’t be around in the next. Dave might stick around if they ever go with the idea of adding him to Monster & Murder full time, but it’s tough tell.

Not sure how it happened, but Marty bleed a decent about after getting cut in the face in the main event.

Daga & Cage seemed to be building their own match on Twitter, which seems more interesting than most anything that happened on the show.

Next taping is 12/17 Chilpancingo.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2016-11-08 

Panther topes
Panther topes

Recapped: 11/15/2016

What happened: Nothing? Blue Panther Jr. & Sansón had random issues. Drone remains personally unbeaten. Nothing major.

What was good: Panthers/Dinamitas is good and Maya/Virus is what you’d expected out of them for a main event. There were parts of the two top matches that were good.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel. (more…)

CMLL weekend shows, Templario CaraLucha champ

photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL
photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL

Cara Lucha (SAT) 11/19/2016 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México [The Gladiatores]
1) Astral & Demus 3:16 b Mini Drago Toxin & Tiago [Relevos Increíbles]
2) Estrella De Oro & Limbo b Rey Carnero Jr. & Rocker Boy
3) Alas de Acero, Alas de Oro, Alas De Plata DQ Imperio Negro, Toro Negro Jr., Ying Yang
Toro Negro DQed for unmasking Alas de Oro.
4) Fly Warrior & Rayo Star b Freelance & Pantera I
No Segura, Bandido was moved up
5) Látigo b Templario [CaraLucha The Best] Látigo vs Templario | Cara Lucha | 19-11-16 (posted by TVLuchaMundial)
5) Templario b Látigo [Cara Lucha The Best]
Templario won to become the first champion
6) Volador Jr. b Flamita and El Bandido Volador Jr., vs Flamita vs Bandido | Cara Lucha | 19-11-16 (posted by TVLuchaMundial)
Bandido replaced Rey Fenix. Volador beat Flamita after pulling his mask and cradling him.

Top matches sound like they went well.

CMLL (SAT) 11/19/2016 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Bengala & Leono b Camorra & Cholo
2) Astral, Eléctrico, Fantasy b Demus 3:16, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Violencia
tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Okumura, Sangre Azteca, Tiger b Blue Panther Jr., Johnny Idol, The Panther
4) Diamante Azul, Mistico, Titán b Euforia, Sam Adonis, Vangellys
tecnicos took 1/3.
5) Dragón Lee b Niebla Roja
Dragon Lee took 1/3.

The weekend shows drew extra foreign fans with American football fans in town for the game on Monday night. There were a lot here, maybe there was a travel package with this show included or something like that.

CMLL (SUN) 11/20/2016 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Flyer & Sensei b Akuma & Artillero
Artillero replaced Espanto Jr. (injury) on Monday. Rudos took 1/3.
2) Dalys, La Seductora, Zeuxis b Lluvia, Princesa Sugehit, Skadi
Rudas took 2/3.
3) Drone, Fuego, Robin DQ El Cuatrero, Sansón, Skándalo
Robin replaced Oro Jr. Straight falls. Drone got unmasked for the DQ by Skandalo, but still hasn’t lost a fall.
4) Misterioso Jr., Morphosis, Pierroth b Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr.
Pierroth replaced Ephesto on Friday. Rudos took 1/3.
5) Máximo, Mistico, Volador Jr. b Ephesto, Kráneo, La Máscara
Ephesto replaced Pierroth on Friday, Marco replaced Maximo at some point.

A show. No angle except maybe the Skandalo thing, but Skandalo things go nowhere.

Elite aired it’s last TV show of the season (or maybe ever) Saturday night. It was the taping from 11/18; the 11/11 taping was skipped and apparently will never air. It’s not clear what happened for them suddenly end. If Elite had stuck to the original format, then this past Saturday probably would’ve been the final. (33 episodes of Liga Elite format and just one week for both the winners and losers to have their tournament?) I guess it’s possible Elite had agreed to this week being season final, forgot about, and then threw something together this week. It doesn’t quite make sense, since they missed  a week recently and wouldn’t have been able to fit it all in. The easier answer is Elite simply gave them one week notice they were done (for the year or entirely) and the promotion decided to run a match to set up the Escorpion/Caristico match they want to do.

Nothing about Elite entirely makes sense, but normal lucha behavior is we won’t hear anything from the promotion itself again until/unless they’re coming back, and the titles will be defended at random shows until the people who have them get bored.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s final news update. Kris had been doing these regularly for about 15 years on a variety of sites; he’s easily been the most well read person writing about lucha libre on the internet over that time. I know he’ll still be around and be creating other great internet content, but the Lucha Report will be missed.

I’m not sure if people realized it, but Kris was also responsible for a high percentage of the lucha posters that I’ve been adding to the database. He’d spend hours on Facebook looking for them, and then I’d type them up for the database. I’m still going to be adding plenty of posters to the database, but I’m sure I won’t find as many on my own as he was able to find. If there’s a show you think I should include, feel free to tag me on Twitter and I’ll try to remember to include it. (Don’t tag the @lucharobot, he doesn’t read his replies.)

AAA put up this week’s TV show. Still no sign of a Guerra de Titanes date but, if it is in January like I assume, we might not hear about it for a month.

DTU’s show today in Dolores Hidalgo was canceled due to an issue with the local promoter.

CultIcon writes about Polvora.

Maori Televisa has a brief interview with Johnny Idol.

CMLL Puebla: 2016-11-07 

this escalates
this escalates

Recapped: 11/14/2016

What happened: Rush beat up Volador enough to get DQed. Mascara Dorada has his final match in Puebla. (I’ve already recapped the Friday show, so this is the final regular show I’ll recap with Mascara Dorada on it.)

What was good: I liked a lot of the show, including the opener, the tercera and the Dorada final.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel. (more…)

AAA on Televisa: 2016-11-05 

Super Fly has had enough of these guys trying to dive on him
Super Fly has had enough of these guys trying to dive on him

Recapped: 11/14/2016

What happened: Wagner/Psycho set up a singles match (for next week). Fantasma kept his cruiserwieght title. Mascara de Bronce debuted, and lost. Super Fly is set on ending Aerostar. A mystery person has now trapped the Apaches twice.

What was good: Nothing really? The title match and the opener worked less than you’d expect. The main event was actually better, but the expectations were pretty lose there.

Where can I watch it: It’s no AAA’s channel in much better quality than on mine. (more…)

Ultimo Guerrero wins Leyenda de Azul, Caristico wins Liga Elite

Terrible does the impossible

CMLL (FRI) 11/18/2016 Arena México [CMLL, Culticon, thecubsfan]
1) Tiger & Virus b Fuego & Pegasso Fuego & Pegasso vs Tiger & Virus (posted by thecubsfan)
15:14. Rudos took 2/3.
2) Bobby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora b Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Bobby Z, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora (posted by thecubsfan)
11:36. Tecnicos took straight falls, the last when Dragon Rojo unmasked Guerrero Maya Rojo.
3) The Panther b Okumura [lightning] The Panther vs Okumura in a lightning match (posted by thecubsfan)
8:59, Panther winning with a frog splash.
4) Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Volador Jr. b Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas (posted by thecubsfan)
14:58. Tecnicos took 1/3.
5) Último Guerrero b Atlantis, Stuka Jr., Marco Corleone, La Máscara, Máximo Sexy, Diamante Azul, Valiente, Blue Panther, Terrible, Máscara Año 2000, Rey Bucanero, Gran Guerrero, Euforia, Hechicero, Kráneo [Leyenda de Azul] 2016 Leyenda de Azul from CMLL on 2016-11-18 (posted by thecubsfan)
34:34. Order of elimination: Stuka (Gran Guerrero), Blue Panther (Maximo), Rey Bucanero (Diamante Azul), Gran Guerrero (La Mascara), Maximo (Mascara 2000), Marco Corleone (Kraneo), Hechicero (Euforia), Kraneo (Atlantis), La Mascara (Valiente), Terrible (Ultimo Guerrero), Euforia & Diamante Azul DDQ for pulling masks, Maximo (Ultimo Guerrero), Atlantis (Vailente), Ultimo Guerrero (Valiente) leaving Valiente as the winner.

A good show, with the semimain being the best to me. This cibernetico was better than the one on Tuesday a few weeks ago.

Euforia mentioned on Twitter that the submission he’s used is called Soberana, and was invented by Halcon Suriano.

Today’s Coliseo show has a Niebla Roja vs Dragon Lee singles non-title match. Mistico, Diamante Azul, and Titan take on Euforia, Vangellys and Niebla Roja in the semimain.

Tuesday’s show now has a 2×1 ticket deal, which was promoted about 20 different times during the night. That may be a conservative estimate.

ELITE (FRI) 11/18/2016 Arena Naucalpan [@PlantillaDepor1, +LuchaTV]
1) Átomo, Pequeño Warrior, Shaolin b Shadow Boy, Solaris, Sonic
2) Baronessa & Diosa Quetzal DQ Muñeca De Plata & Rossy Moreno
3) Fresero Jr. & Samoano b Metaleón & Mr. Leo
Mr. Leo replaced Hijo del Pantera. Rudos won in straight falls.
4) El Bandido b Golden Magic, Emperador Azteca, Argos, Ciclón Ramírez Jr., Imposible, Eterno, Flamita, Diamante, Zumbido [ELITE WELTER]
Bandido beat Imposible to become the first champion
5) Black Tauro & Willie Mack b Mr. 450 & Mr. Águila
usual challenges followed
6) Carístico b Rey Escorpión [Liga Elite, final]
Cibernetico distracted Rey Escorpion which allowed Caristico to win. Backstage, Cibernetico announced that – in season 2 – he’d form a group of members of the Vipers (Maniaco & Mosco de la Merced), La Secta (Ozz & Espiritu), Los Hell Brothers (Sharlie Rockstar), and Los Bizarros (Taboo & Billy el Malo) as Los Radicales. Black Tauro was in the group photo as well.

This will air next Saturday. No Season 2 start date was mentioned or even hinted at. Really, the only S2 stuff set up was Cibernetico and all his friends doing the promo after the show, which seems like the latest Cibernetico stable not to go anywhere.

Hijo del Pantera missed the show because he was in Chicago with X-Fly, Super Crazy & Discovery (so the Mosco in Los Radicales is definitely the second one.)

AAA tapes tomorrow night in Ciudad Juarez. Garza Jr., La Parka and Texano Jr. face Johnny Mundo, Brian Cage (hopefully) and a TBD wrestler. Bringing in Mundo & Cage for a match with La Parka seems like a waste of effort, but maybe they’ll figure something out. It’s a lineup I didn’t like when it was announced and doesn’t seem any better now: Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Pagano is a replay of match which didn’t work from Heroes Inmortales. Perros del Mal versus the Traidor Clowns & Dave the Clown has little chance of being good. Faby & Mary vs Chessman & Averno isn’t working for me, and probably won’t happen as scheduled: both El Apache & Faby have been trapped by the mystery OGT ally, so it’s probably Mary’s turn and likely a handicap match. Pimpinela & Mamba are having a chain match, which probably will get over live but doesn’t sound like it’ll be interesting on TV. The opener is the usual mixed opener. They’ve mentioned honoring Eddy Guerrero & Art Barr, which might be the best thing on the show.

CaraLuchas also has a show tonight, with a Volador vs Flamita vs ??? main event, and Latigo vs Templario to determine their first champion. Latigo seems like the favorite, as he’s had success in that promotion and Templario is getting a few dates with CMLL which might eventually take him away from here.

PWR has an iPPV tonight with Rey Horuz.


CMLL (FRI) 11/25/2016 Arena México
1) Astral & Eléctrico vs Demus 3:16 & Mercurio
2) Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Ripper, Sagrado
3) Lluvia, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
4) La Máscara vs Hechicero [lightning]
5) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Pierroth vs El Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón and Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther and Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger [torneo]
6) Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero

Valiente & Ultimo Guerrero rematch in the main event. Caristico’s got his Fridays freed up now.

Semimain is a trios tournament with one older family member and two younger family members. (So that’s the justification for booking Mascara 2000, though it still doesn’t make sense.) Dinastia Munoz is the heavy favorite, and it’s more a question of which team faces them. Puma & Tiger vs Mistico & Dragon Lee should be happening all the time.

There’s one too many matches here with the torneo (and the stupid four man battle royal which will precede it.) One or two of these matches is going short. As much as I’d like to see the weirdness of Hechicero/Mascara, they probably should’ve saved it for another week.

CMLL on 2016-11-18 

caveman is barbaric
caveman is barbaric

Recapped: 11/18/2016

What happened: Último Guerrero won Leyenda de Azul. Guerrero Maya and Dragon Rojo are feuding again.

What was good:  Everything but the opener was good, with the semimain being great.

Where can I watch it: It’ll be up on my channel soon. (more…)