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CMLL on CadenaTres: 2014-11-15


taped 2014-11-11 @ Arena México
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Maximo/Casas, Shocker/Mascara, ChilangaMask, AAA TV, FantasticaMania

Esfinge (CMLL/Alexis Salazar)

CMLL (SAT) 01/10/2015 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Flyer b El Rebelde
There appears to be no dive ban on Sabado Retro – even Rebelde was doing dives in this match. Spanish Fly for the win.
2) Sensei b Disturbio
Molotov continues to be announced and not appeared; Sensei won with the Sensei lock in his place.
3) Boby Zavala b Esfinge
Zavala powerbombed Esfinge for the win. Said to be Esfinge’s best match in DF
4) Marcela b Dalys
Moved down a spot. Said to be Dalys’ best match ever. Top rope double stomp gave Marcela the win.
5) Blue Panther Jr. b Sangre Azteca
Moved up a spot. Nudo lagunero for the win.
6) Delta & Guerrero Maya Jr. DQ Misterioso Jr. & Sagrado
Misterioso took Delta’s mask for the DQ. Sagrado took Maya’s mask after the fact.
7) Euforia, Rey Bucanero, Terrible b Blue Panther, Dragón Rojo Jr., Máximo
Bucanero snuck in a foul on Maximo. Maximo wants a hair match with Rey.

Are we sure Molotov isn’t jumping Lucha Underground? We’re very definitely sure, huh.

There appeared to be a private show for a corporation in Arena Mexico Saturday night. La Mascara won a Copa of some sort. It was a private show, not something where tickets were being solved. Still, a couple of days ago I was wondering if CMLL would run a normal show at Arena Coliseo while renting Arena Mexico out to All Elite, and they basically did that here.

Fuego and Aly.

CMLL (SUN) 01/11/2015 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Mercurio & Pequeño Universo 2000 COR Angelito & Stukita Angelito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeno Universo 2000, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Rudos took 1/3, the last when Universo beat Angelito and Mercurio & Stukita were counted out after a Stukita dive. Good.
2) Magnus, Soberano Jr., Star Jr. b Cholo, Metálico, Ramstein Magnus, Soberano Jr., Star Jr. vs Cholo, Metalico, Ramstein, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Magnus replaced Starman. Rudos were DQed in the first fall for throwing Soberano over the top, then Mangus beat Metalico in the third. Cholo – who’s face looks a lot like Cholo’s mask – and Ramstein took Star & Soberano’s masks after their loss. Ok match.
3) Blue Panther Jr., Dragon Lee, Pegasso b Arkángel de la Muerte, Cancerbero, Raziel Blue Panther Jr., Dragon Lee, Pegasso vs Arkangel de la Muerte, Cancerbero, Raziel, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Tecnicos took 1/3. Pegasso replaced the Panther, and fell off the top rope on his own in the first fall. He seemed to be fine the rest of the match.
4) Kráneo, Morphosis, Olímpico b Blue Panther, Fuego, Super Porky Blue Panther, Fuego, Super Porky vs Kraneo, Morphosis, Olipico, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Rudos took 2/3. Heavy on the comedy. OK.
5) Máximo b Negro Casas Maximo vs Negro Casas, on DailyMotion (posted by thecubsfan)
Negro went after Maximo’s knee and submitted him to a STF in the first. Maximo was in great pain but managed to squeeze out the second. Casas continued to attack Maximo while he was getting medical aid, but Maximo was able to rally once again and pin him after a super armdrag. Great match. Maximo challenged Negro Casas to a hair match and Casas agreed to do it at some point in the future.
6) Euforia, Niebla Roja, Shocker b La Máscara, Titán, Valiente
Match did not air on Terra; feed cut out during a Fuego/edecanes dance number. Shocker pulled Mascara’s mask and pinned him for the win.

Unusually big crowd and treated like a big show with two edecan dance numbers. CMLL did not advertise it specially, but gave away tickets via a radio station they’re affiliated with. (If you wanted tickets, all you had to do was sign up.) One of the hosts was announcer for the Terra broadcast and received an awards prior to the show.

Maximo/Casas is worth going out of your way to see. The Terra show cut out before the main event; the show was going longer than usual, but it wasn’t the longest ever show and the ending of the show usually appears to a manual decision (not a clock.)

Chilanga Mask (SUN) 01/11/2015 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México [Tercera Caida]
1) Keira b Black Fury
Vaquerita appeared after the match to challenge Keira
2) Herodes Jr. b Karma
bloody match
3) Magnifico b Trauma I
referee 19 1/2 helped Magnifico get the win.
4) Black Terry b Trauma II
good match. Aeroboy challenged Black Terry after – they’re part of the four way on 03/22 – and they ended up fighting. Terry was ready to go right now, but Aeroboy opted to wait until March.
5) Judas el Traidor b Belial
good match
6) Arez b Impulso
good match

Chilanga Mask also announced US indy wrestler Kimber Lee would be on their o3/22 Coliseo Coacalco card.

Konnan talked about the AAA TV situation on this week’s MLW Radio podcast. It’s possible it was done earlier in the week, because he was talking about AAA doing four less TV tapings in 2015 (they ran 32 in 2014) and now they’ve added at least two tapings back for this month. Konnan explained Televisa felt their AAA’s TV was dated and wanted to see changes, specifically citing La Parka’s “Thriller” music as being too old for the TV people. The TV people also didn’t like the venues they were running, with Palenques being singled out as looking run down on TV. The plan to handle that is to run more in Mexico City and near Mexico City, which Konnan feels is their hotter crowd and would have the added benefit of saving on travel costs. They’re also looking to update the graphic packages.

This is not the full scale changes that have been hinted at, and it’s a little bit of what was planned originally for 2014. AAA and the Sports Department of Mexico City originally announced AAA they’d be running the Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera 12 times in 2014, but instead only ran it three times for TV and twice more for sponsored shows. AAA cited difficulty getting dates in the building and not wanting to overload the Mexico City market prior to TripleMania as reasons for the few amount of dates, and those figure to be issues again in 2015. (They haven’t said they’re running Arena Ciudad de Mexico for TripleMania, but everyone would be shocked if they ran any place else.)  Just generally finding modern venues to hold lucha libre events is going to be tough; AAA’s run the places they have because there aren’t many better options in a lot of cities.

Separately, I got an explanation on the “no TV until March” ->  “we’re running twice in January” weirdness. It’s as simple as AAA bringing the idea to Televisa, Televisa requesting AAA they keep producing television shows, and AAA just scheduling dates. It was tough to figure why Televisa would say anything different. Anyway, the situation could mean AAA just produces some lame duck TV for a couple months before going in whatever direction they’re going. AAA’s got the talent to produce some good matches when they’re just thrown out there with no restrictions, so I don’t believe this is a bad thing at all for people who like to watch AAA TV. These are likely to be double taping events, so AAA can take care of as much TV as possible. They might need only one more to make it to Rey de Reyes (which you’d think they’d want to build up in some fashion, but I’m completely lost here.)

The FantasticaMania roster arrived in Japan a few hours ago. Their opening show is about 24 hours away in Osaka, and includes a match honoring Okumura. He says he didn’t imagine he’d be in Mexico for ten years, and he’d like to continue living there. Atlantis says this is his 30th trip to Japan and he likes facing international opponents. Triton is making his first trip, which he says is a dream come true, and he hopes it’s the first of many. Triton also says he does not want to win titles or masks in 2015, but just continue to slowly build his career towards the main event. Angel de Oro is making his second trip, and feels his was inexperienced the first time but left a good impression. Mr. Niebla notes this is his first trip to Japan in 14 years; he says he plans on retiring on five years and isn’t sure if he’ll have another opportunity, plus he’d very much like to challenge someone for a mask match this year.

(Yes, it’s odd there’s so many FantastiaMania interviews.)

Marco does the math and declares if Shocker is 1000% guapo, Marco Corelone must be 10,000% guapo. He seems under the belief that the Ingobernables are just going to be expanded to four people when Rush returns, but I think we’re all just guessing at this point.

I found results for the missing 12/29 Arena Puebla show. The main event went three falls and the tecnicos won all three because everyone lost count, according to the writer.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Cara Lucha announced a IndyStrongibles (Arez, Belial, Impulso) versus the Neza Kings (Guerrero Mixtico, Andy Boy, Danger) trios and a Demus & Pierrothito vs Freelance & Suicida tag match for their 01/31 show.

Demus and Electrico are working in Puerto Rico next Saturday. Rey Horuz is also on that show.

SuperLuchas writes about the IGW promotion, looks back at Enmascarado Rojo successfully defending his mask for the third straight week, and Doc Cerebro vs Bushi.

Segunda Caida reviews CMLL from July and October.

Ohtani’s Jacket reviews Dragon Lee vs Virus and Mocho Cota & Silver King vs Negro Casas & El Dandy from ’94.

An article about a mask collector in Ciudad Juarez. He’s collected 260 in the last four years.

Histeria talks about working the Leyendas Inmortales shows. He’s much too young.


CMLL (FRI) 01/16/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Tapatío & Frezzer vs Furia Roja & Thunder Boy
2) El Divino, Javier Cruz Jr., Virgo vs Évola, Infierno, Ráfaga
3) Flash I, Flash II, Gallo vs Pierroth, Pitbull I, Pitbull II
4) Blue Panther vs Satánico
5) Delta, Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Niebla Roja, Sagrado

No results were ever posted for Friday, but Panther/Satniaco is set up anyway.

Tercera is Pierroth teaming with his brothers, though we’re not supposed to know that. Pierroth’s actually working lower on the card to make that match happen.

CMLL (SAT) 01/17/2015 Arena Coliseo
1) Leono vs Camorra
2) Sensei vs Hijo del Signo
3) Astral vs Pequeño Nitro
4) Star Jr. vs Virus
5) Princesa Sugehit vs Zeuxis
6) Blue Panther & Blue Panther Jr. vs Niebla Roja & Rey Bucanero
7) Misterioso Jr., Negro Casas, Sagrado vs Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., La Máscara

Virus singles match! First team up of Blue Panther & Blue Panther in a 2v2 match! Possibly continuing a setup to an Arena Coliseo Tag Title Match soon! You have to be there to see any of this. (That also suggests there’s at least one more of these Coliseo shows.)

On the other hand, totally okay with no Leono vs Camorra video.

CMLL (SUN) 01/18/2015 Arena México
1) Bengala & Metatrón vs El Rebelde & Espanto Jr.
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Molotov, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Akuma, Artillero, Súper Comando
3) Pegasso vs Cancerbero [lightning]
4) Delta, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Boby Zavala, Sangre Azteca, Virus
5) Blue Panther, Máximo, Valiente vs Ephesto, Hechicero, Niebla Roja
6) Dragón Rojo Jr., Marco Corleone, Super Porky vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Rey Bucanero

The Shocker/Mascara finish doesn’t go anywhere and we’re all okay with that. Fourth match should be fun. Will Molotov show is the biggest question of our time. 2nd biggest question is if Metatron will take Rebelde’s big move.

AAA TV to continue as normal, routine CMLL show, Anniversary music video

CMLL (FRI) 01/09/2015 Arena México [CMLL, Notimex]
1) Leono & Sensei b Akuma & Espanto Jr.
2) Okumura, Puma, Sangre Azteca b Esfinge, Pegasso, Tritón
3) Ángel de Oro, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
Rudos are now known as Comando Caribeno – they had t-shirts, so it’s clearly official. Angel de Oro brought his title belt and a mask (Fabian el Gitano’s?) to the ring before the match.
4) Kamaitachi b Dragon Lee [lightning]
Both wrestlers countered each other many times. Kamaitachi resorted to an unseen mask pull to win.
5) Atlantis, Máscara Dorada, Máximo DQ Mr. Águila, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
Straight falls. Comandante kissed Maximo in the second, and Terrible & Bucanero fouled Maximo. Mr. Aguila insisted Mije foul Kemonito too, and he did.
6) La Máscara, La Sombra, Marco Corleone b Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Shocker
Ingobernables took 1/3

Maximo and TRT face off again today in Coliseo. Maximo teams with Blue Panther Sr. & Dragon Rojo Jr. vs Euforia, Terrible and Rey Bucanero.

After a few weeks of mystery and intrigue about AAA’s TV situation, AAA basically announced things are continuing exactly as normal. Today’s AAA TV episode lists shows 01/23 (Friday) in Arena Naucalpan and 01/30 (also Friday) in Toluca. The Naucalpan lineup could be announced at any time. Those dates mean there will be no additional filler weeks. The Naucalpan show should starting airing on 01/31.

I dunno. This is different from what people had been telling me (but I’m still wrong.) Normal is fine with me. This vaguely fits with an idea to run in smaller buildings, but they’re exactly the type of buildings AAA normally runs this time of year anyway. AAA tapings in Naucalpan and Toluca are always good, so these should be as well.

Today’s CMLL on CadenaTres show has the double mask match among other interesting matches. You can watch it on the station’s YouTube channel – – starting at 7pm Mexico City time.

Rob has a 15 minute music video of highlights from the CMLL 81st Anniversary show.

An interview with Canek about his feud with Mr. Jack acknowledges he had wrestling under a different name in AAA during the long period he wasn’t Mr. Jack.

NJPWWorld has a column by the president of NJPW Naoki Sugabayashi talking FantasticaMania. There’s a bit about the recent history of the relationship between the two companies and this year’s tour. He’s very high on Mr. Niebla, which may explain how Niebla ended up on this tour.

Apolo Valdes gives his take on the year in lucha in 2014.

DTU’s next shows
01/26: Tulancingo
01/31: Ventoquipa, Hidalgo
02/01: Mexico City
02/28: Papantla, Veracruz
03/01: Poza Rica, Veracruz

Porra Fresa previews the ChilangaMask visit to Arena Coliseo San Ramon next week.

SuperLuchas looks back at Shocker and Mr. Niebla winning a tag team tournament 17 years ago yesterday and present day dramatic video series Cronicas del Ring.

X-Fly talks about the indies, says there’s plans for a Familia de Tijuana reunion in 2015.

Luchoroscopo for Aries

Segunda Caida’s reviews include one for a Monterrey Bob Esponja match and this week’s Lucha Underground show.

Los Colisenos writes about the decline of lucha libre jouranlism.


CMLL (FRI) 01/16/2015 Arena México
1) Shockercito & Último Dragoncito vs Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Goya Kong vs Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany
3) Blue Panther Jr., Dragon Lee, Pegasso vs Kamaitachi, Puma, Tiger
4) Fuego vs Hombre sin Nombre [lightning]
5) La Máscara, Super Porky, Titán vs Felino, Negro Casas, Shocker
6) Marco Corleone, Máximo, Valiente vs Euforia, Terrible, Thunder

A show. Not bothering to do much while part of the crew is in Japan. Maybe they’re setting up Maximo/Terrible? Maybe they’re just killing time. The FantasticaMania guys will be back on shows by 01/23.

Dragon Lee is now the definitive favorite to end up in a mask feud with Kamitachi; it may have already started.

Tiffany handles the video promo.

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2014-11-15


taped 2014-11-04 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
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CMLL shows tonight, All Elite in Arena Mexico on 02/08

Tonight’s CMLL card, follwing the title tournament of the last couple weeks, has no particular rivalries going on. The makeshift Ingobernables – Mascara, Sombra and fill in Marco – face Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas and Shocker in the main event. The man who beat Casas last week, Mascara Dorada, teams with Atlantis & Maximo to take on Mr. Aguila, Rey Bucanero and Terrible in the semimain. The best match of the show might be the lightning match between Dragon Lee vs Kamaitachi, which seems to be placed higher than usual for those level of guys. It’s the 4th match here (and so will almost surely air on TV), up one spot from when they held this match back in October.

Misterioso Jr. posted that this show will air on Terra. I’m assuming he’s confused or just doesn’t know they took it off months ago, because CMLL and Terra haven’t announced anything about this. (Not planning on being around to record it, either way.)

Over in Guadalajara, the Friday show is a one time team up of three generations of Infernales, with Satanico coming out of retirement too team with Ultimo Guerrero and Euforia. They face Blue Panther, Volador and Draogn Rojo.

All Elite announced they’d be returning for a 3rd show on 02/08 in Arena Mexico with Dr. Wagner Jr. & La Sombra vs LA Park & Volador Jr. That would mark both Wagner & Park’s first match in Arena Mexico in half a decade. It wouldn’t be officially for CMLL, though casual fans wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. The event is on Sunday at 5pm, the traditional time for CMLL’s Sunday shows, and it’s unclear if this means the All Elite show is replacing the weekly CMLL show for the week or if they’ll run an opposition show in Arena Coliseo. It’d be absurd for CMLL to run their own show in Arena Coliseo, but CMLL can be very absurd. If this is the regular Sunday show, this match would also likely air live on Terra.

An AAA show at Arena Coliseo Monterrey on 01/25 includes Lolita on the poster; that’d be her first known match since becoming a mom. La Parkita is in the minis match and seems to have been booked more of late. Main event is Psycho Clown/Fenix vs Texano/Pentagon, which suggests those guys would not be on the Lucha Underground tapings that day – or this lineup is getting changed late. I’d bet my money on someone else being in their spots in Monterrey.

Tercera Caida posted a ‘100’ teaser last night. They’re usually doing the 100 moves of the year shows around this time and that seems a hint that they’re still planning on releasing one this year, maybe just on +LuchaTV. Meanwhile, the Gladiatores posted a 40 minute video interview with Jose Manuel, Bernardo and Monje.

ChilangaMask has added Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Hechicero vs Black Terrry vs Aero Boy to their 03/22 Coliseo Coacalco show.

I never got around to watching the Super Crazy/Pesadilla TLC match in NOAH, but R de Rudo notes Pesadilla wrestled a portion of the match unmasked. The rudos pulled his mask off, but it’s no DQ so the match just kept going. He had some facepaint on.

Estrellas del Ring interviews Pantera I. Pantera says the name came from when the (IWRG) Morenos were promoting shows in Auditorio Aguascalientes, noticed the local basketball team was named Los Panteras, and thought that would be a good luchador name. Pantera I explains his long abscence from the ring as retiring due to problems with alcoholism. Pantera says he overcame alcoholism and decided to return to the ring, though Pantera II did not give him permission to keep using the name. There’s obviously issues between those two that neither guy wants to talk about.

Estrellas del Ring has the same Octagon interview Octagon has done with a couple dozen outlets. Octagon keeps saying he owns the name. If you actually go to the trademark office site, it lists AAA as the owner. That can be fought and dragged out, but no one seems to win those arguments with AAA. No one else likes bringing it up to the luchadors.

Titan says his title match versus Barbaro Cavernario was great and he’d the caveman another shot any time he wanted. The newspaper notes no video of the match exists. (I kept my $100.)

LuchaWorld has a recap of this week’s CMLL Informa and KrisZ’s news update.

Segunda Caida reviews Héctor Garza, Shocker, Toscano vs Rey Bucanero, Shigeo Okumura, Taichi. Don’t watch CMLL Taichi.

Kcidis draws a defeated Cholo & Ramstein.

La Catedral argues Star Jr. & Soberano Jr. defeating Cholo & Ramstein will not shoot the tecnicos to immediate superstardom.

SuperLuchas looks back at Shibata vs Blue Demon.

Taya says she’ll be even better in 2015.

The contract signing for Syrui’s first title defense happened early today. The challenger, Shuu Shibutani, , has said she’ll retire at the on May 3rd, which doesn’t sound like her mind is in this match. The semimain is now Goya Kong & Muneca de Plata vs Kana & Arisa Nakajima for the REINA Tag Team Championship.


LLB (SAT) 01/31/2015 Deportivo Pavón, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal
1) Bracito De Plata, Bracito De Platino, Fantasma De La Opera II vs Super Brazo Jr., Super Pinochito, Voladorcito
2) Demasiado, Diva Salvaje, Estrella Divina vs Halcón 2000, Kid Jaguar, Shadow
3) Rayo Tapatío I & Rayo Tapatío II vs Guerrero Del Bronx & Oficialito and Ojo De Halcón & Ojo De Halcon Jr. and Mike Segura & Pantera I and Arez & Belial and Porro I & Porro II
4) Impulso vs Freelance [super libre]
5) Cerebro Negro, Dinamic Black, Fantasma de la Ópera vs ?, ??, ???
6) Fuerza Guerrera & Mr. Niebla vs Dr. Wagner Jr. & Octagón

Last show Lucha Libre Boom did air on AYM, this one is promoted as the same and I have unexplained access to AYM again, so there’s a chance you might see this. Tag team tournament is so random, super libre is going to have many spots.

AAA on Televisa: 2014-11-15


taped 2014-10-12 @ Domo San Luis, San Luis Potosi, San Luis Potosí
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01/10-11 lucha times

box. It’s after the jump too.

== AAA ==

Tuxtla Guiterrez part 2! Aerostar vs Super Fly prior to the mask match, Joe Lider & Pentagon Jr. vs Fenix & Myzteziz. This is the last show with first run 2014 AAA matches – the Guerra de Titanes show has aired on PPV already, and is up on YouTube if you look around.

== Lucha Underground ==

Law of the Jungle

Prince Puma puts his title on the line and fights Fenix; Drago fights King Cuerno; Chavo confronts Blue Demon; Cage, Angelico, Aerostar and Argenis fight.

The Demon/Chavo confronation does not appear to be a match, but the other three will be. Drago/Cuerno is a best of three falls match.

There’s two more episodes after this one in this first batch of episodes.

== CMLL ==

FOX2: Mascara Dorada vs Negro Casas.

Azteca: The Welterweight Cibernetico that set that up.

52MX: Mephisto vs Mascara Dorada. Unless Puebla makes a surprise return, this is the last show with first run 2014 CMLL matches.

Claro: Atlantis, Maximo, Valiente vs Niebla, Casas, Bucanero.

C3: Pequeno Reyes del Air, double mask match, Volador/Bucanero

Terra Sunday: Maximo/Casas

== IWRG ==

IWRG (LAS/AYM): probably rerunning the show from the 4th alot; hoping the show from the 8th turns up on Monday but there’s a decent chance of no new IWRG this week.

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Albert on his MMA future, AAA’s odd TV situation

Alberto, while in Puerto Rico for WWL, talked to the Primera Hour newspaper about his career. (Article via SuperLuchas.) MMA is the focus, but he talked about pretty much everything. Alberto says he’s been “aprroached” by Bellator, Victory, UFC and Fighting Americas – but he’s also feels like he’s done MMA and has no need to go back to it. Alberto figures he would have to stop wrestling for three months train, so he wants three months of his pay plus a bonus. People have suggest amounts for him, but no one’s offered anything firm, which annoys him. Alberto is only going to fight for a specific amount, and he’s fine not fighting if he doesn’t get it.

As far wrestling, Alberto says he worked “like 300 shows a year” for WWE and plans to cut that way back. His aim is to work only 110 shows in 2015, and there’s only 9 left to be filled for 2015. Alberto says he’s fine financially and wants to spend more time with his family.

There’s no specific mention of TNA or Lucha Underground, though both run limited enough dates that they might fit with Alberto’s schedule. (And taking 3 months off to prepare for a fight would affect both.) The WON was reporting TNA desperately wanted Alberto in for their debut episode last night; he was not on the show .

On the MMA side, the UFC side is interesting because that’s the one group that wouldn’t need an pro wrestler since they already have CM Punk. However, approached doesn’t necessarily mean wrestling, and there’s certainly non-fighting speaking roles where Alberto will be asset. Alberto could be playing disinterested as a leverage tool, but it doesn’t sound like he expects to go to MMA.

No one’s saying exactly what’s going on with AAA TV, but everyone is saying something is happening. The WON’s been reporting for the last couple of weeks that there’s no AAA TV tapings scheduled until March, and people have separately been telling me the same thing. This week, the newsletter reported this

they are going to reboot with a totally different looking product. In many ways, that sounds similar to TNA, which isn’t good, but AAA still has a deal with Televisa, which is a major network. The only thing we’ve heard is that it will be a more streamlined product with more of an emphasis on using only big stars, either main event draws or young guys who can really go.

I’ve been told too that there’s a new TV deal to be announced, but I’m not sure if it’s this or the timeline on that. The changing to “main event draws or young guys who can really go” doesn’t seem new. It’s something that’s been said by AAA for many years and occasionally been done. Only occasionally, because it’s careful way to say “we’re going to take [veteran name] and [veteran name] and [cult favorite early act]” off TV, and those things are always politically difficult to actually do. (See: everything going on with Octagon.) No one who knows the details of any changes is actually talking about them.

Lucha Underground has not been financially successful – the WON raises the bar to “they’ve got to get on Univsion proper or they’re doomed” this week – but it’s been aesthetically popular. It’s always been clear that if Lucha Underground got a positive reaction, some elements would eventually find their way to the Mexico promotion, more of normal human reaction than any big plan. Maybe some of that is what is being thought about here, though the Lucha Underground show benefits from a lot of production help which may not be as available in Mexico City as it has been in Los Angeles.

AAA’s talked a lot in the past about modernizing the product, and they are using more big storylines, vignettes and other TV drama elements around the in ring product, and the matches are as modern as any other promotion. Still, the presentation of the matches isn’t really that different from CMLL. AAA’s still essentially taping live events to put on TV with whatever two or three matches fit on the show – so say Alberto’s part of the TV episode if he has a match but, if they didn’t do vignettes that taping, he’s no where to be seen the other week. (This really sticks out more as they’ve gone back to more two week tapings.) If the idea is to focus on people, that whole format has to be changed, which might be going on here.

Might not. I don’t really know much, I’m doing a lot of speculating. AAA’s got 3 more weeks of TV (one more of Tuxtla, 2 of Guerra de Titanes), and then the start of mystery shows on 01/31 until they tape again. I’d presume Televisa wouldn’t be thrilled with a month of reruns or filler material and everyone seems to think AAA’s still running Rey de Reyes, so some new content should still be airing. Possibly AAA will start to tell their story about this new plan before then. Until then, we can read into manufactured interviews like yesterday’s Angelico one, where the usual bit of promoting the next taping is noticeably missing.

The WON also mentioned Lucha Underground still wants to bring in the Young Bucks, even though both sides aren’t happy with how previous negotiations went (Jacksons over the price, LU over their complaints going public.) Jeff Cobb, who previously said he signed, is listed as still being talked too. So is Willie Mack, who everyone’s assumed would be coming here after he got cut from WWE. Dark Angel is also on the list; I don’t know if CMLL billing her for shows she wasn’t going to work is related to this situation – plenty of people are still on vacation and it could’ve just been a mix up over that. The timing makes it look suspicious. This has seemed to happen with Angel/CMLL before when CMLL seemed upset for whatever reason – but they’ve always ended up working together again.

The next Chilanga Mask show is quietly taking place this Sunday, with Trauma II vs Black Terry as the headline match. The women’s match has changed, with Keira now facing Black Fury instead of Star Fire.

Vice has a really good Fray Tormenta bio, one worth reading even if you’ve read these before.

Estrellas del Ring interviews AULL trio Los Insurrectos.

SuperLuchas looks back at past January 7ths, including a day where pre-Rayo de Jalisco was wrestling as Doc Curtis.

Yahoo! Travel has a video story on visiting Arena Mexico with Dragon Rojo Jr.

An Arizona lucha libre promotion is debuting in a new venue on Saturday.

Luchoroscopo for Piscis


CMLL (MON) 01/12/2015 Arena Puebla
1) Astral, Astro, Asturiano vs Demus 3:16, Espíritu Maligno, Saurón
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Starman, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Toro Bill Jr.
3) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Marcela vs Amapola, Tiffany, Zeuxis
4) Blue Panther, La Máscara, Titán vs Ephesto, Kráneo, Pierroth
5) Marco Corleone, Máximo, Valiente vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Shocker

A show. Segunda could be good.

Lucha Underground 1×9 (2015-01-07): “Aztec Warfare”

King Cuerno aims, fires

the matches

Just one, the first ever Aztec Warfare…


Wow, I need to fill in some luchawiki profiles. I’ll time it later, maybe.

All the gifs from the show are here:

the developments

this was not the hardest hit Sagrada took

Not a lot. The existing feuds (the Puma/Mundo/Crew triangle, Cuerno/Drago, Pimpi vs Havoc & Ivelisse?) were touched on. Cuerno beat Drago again.

Mundo accidentally took out Catrina with a kick, so Muerte’s going to murder him later.

Blue Demon Jr. returned just in time to not be in the match, but still beat up Chavo and give Sexy Star a win. Demon told Chavo it wasn’t over with them.

Mystery woman found a seat. Good for her.

Match came down to Puma and Mundo, in an echo of episode 1. This time, Puma won. Mundo gave him credit for winning and Konnan turned up to clap for his protege. Unlike episode one, Puma got the belt without any post match incident.

No sign of Dario’s mystery guy. Dario himself was only there to introduce the match, and there were no vignettes. There haven’t been many of those the last few episodes, maybe due to the format.

Mundo misses, seals his death sentence

the questions

  • who challenges Prince Puma first?
  • so do we really have to see a Chavo/Demon match again?
  • will that woman ever find what she’s looking for?


630 senton for the title

This was nonstop action all the way thru with a bunch of highlight moments. Lucha Undergound is doing ~40 episodes a year, but this came off as the end of Act 1 of Season 1. They got to the title, now they have to set up for something else next.

There were other guys I would’ve been happy to see win, but Prince Puma came off as a worthy champion. The layout of the match benefited all – pretty much everyone got to get about a minute worth of Hot Tag like offense on the entire field as soon as they got in. Even Ricky Mandell and Mariachi Loco went on runs. (Poor Famous B.) Even with only one match on the show, Lucha Underground continued it’s trend of having a stellar match each week. (I think I’d rate this as Great, FWIW.)

(Since Lucha Underground puts the best match of the week online, are they putting the whole episode on line this week?)



Cholo & Ramstein unmasked, Shockercito Pequeno Rey del Aire

Cholo & Ramstein unmasked – photo by Alexis Salazar/CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 01/06/2015 Arena México [KrisZ, Terra]
1) Bengala & Magnus b Apocalipsis & Inquisidor
Bengala replaced Starman. Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Princesa Sugehit b Dalys, La Comandante, La Seductora
Sugehit replaced Dark Angel on Saturday. Tecnicas took 2/3.
3) Shockercito b Astral, Eléctrico, Fantasy, Último Dragoncito, Demus 3:16, Pierrothito, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Nitro, Mercurio [Pequeno Reyes del Aire]
Tecnicos vs rudos. Elimination order: Fantasy (Demus), Pequeno Olimpico (Dragoncito), Pequeno Nitro, Ultimo Dragoncito, Demus & Electrico (Astral pinning both at the same time), Astral (could not continue after a Pierrothito tope), Mercurio (shockercito), Pierrothito (Shockercito). Leaving Shockercito as the winner.
4) Soberano Jr. & Star Jr. b Cholo & Ramstein [mask]
Cholo & Ramstien were DQed in the first, won the second with the CHOLO DRIVER and Ramstien top rope splash. Cholo lost first in the third fall, Ramstein beat Star Jr. with a top rope Michinoku Driver, and Soberano took out Ramstein to win. Cholo is Carlos Soriano Mendoza, 40 years old, 20 years a wrestler. Ramstein is Francisco Javier Costillo, 40 years old, 21 years experience. Both are from Mexico City.
5) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero b Dragón Rojo Jr., La Máscara, Marco Corleone
6) Volador Jr. b Rey Bucanero
Volador took 1/3 clean to win.

There are some clips of the mask match on instagram but haven’t heard much how the match went. No hair matches challenges after the main event, no word on how hurt Astral is now (though it reads like a planned elimination and not an injury.)

As of 11am, CMLL hadn’t actually posted text results.

CMLL (TUE) 01/06/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara (Facebook)]
1) Évola b Virgo
2) Esfinge & Metatrón b Exterminador & Maléfico
3) Hombre sin Nombre, Kráneo, Olímpico b Fuego, Stuka Jr., Super Porky
4) Mephisto b Titán, Máscara Dorada, Ephesto, Dragon Lee, Mr. Águila, Rey Cometa, Pierroth, Tritón, Demonio Maya [cibernetico]
Elimination order: Demonio Maya (by Dragon Lee), Triton (Ephesto), Rey Cometa (Mr. Aguila with the ropes), Dragon Lee & Ephesto got DDQ, Mr. Aguila (Titan), Mascara Dorada (Mephisto), Titan (Mephisto). Mephisto is the winner (no mention of what happened to Pierroth)
5) Atlantis, Máximo, Valiente b Bárbaro Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla

The three kings win the main event.

Alberto el Patron picked up the WWL Heavyweight Championship yesterday afternoon in Puerto Rico. The fans treated him as a tecnico, though it seems like he joined a rudo faction after the match. It doesn’t seem like a next show was announced, but WWL appears to be running once every couple months. The team of Dos Sr/Hijo de Dos/Sicodelico Jr. lost their trios match but they set up a rematch. No next show was announced, but they seemed to draw OK.

Cubed Circle Newsletter invited me to be part of their 2014 wrestling yearbook. There’s a lot of good stuff in there, and I wrote a year in review for lucha libre. It’s a free PDF, so check it out.

Lucha Underground returns tonight with show long Azteca Warfare to determine the first champion. They’ve leaked out a couple clips: one from Super Fly’s entrance to the next, and one from about midway in where Drago appears.  Shows have been fun so far and this one should be as well.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

DoradaFan has a music video of 2014-11-18 CMLL.

RobViper has a music video of 09/14/14 AAA.

Segunda Caida reviews Shocker, Strong Man, Toscano vs Atlantis, Héctor Garza, Último Guerrero

CMLL posted highlights from 01/02 – looks like the top 3 air on Fox – and stellar moments from the previous week.

ChilangaMask announced Jason Gory (from the US) will be on their 03/22 show.

Mascara Dorada tops CMLL’s top 10 this week, while Super Halcon & Hombre Bala are #10.

Atlantis was among athletes from Jalisco honored on 01/07.

Esfinge will make his Friday night Arena Mexico and any day Arena Coliseo debut this weekend.

SuperLuchas looks back at Villano I giving away a tricycle at a past Dia Los Reyes.

Peste Negra talk about past Dia de Reyes.


CMLL (TUE) 01/13/2015 Arena México
1) Angelito & Stukita vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Universo 2000
2) Flyer, Magnus, Oro Jr. vs Canelo Casas, Disturbio, Metálico
3) Soberano Jr. vs Raziel [lightning]
4) La Vaquerita, Lluvia, Marcela vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Zeuxis
5) Blue Panther, Super Porky, Titán vs Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado
6) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Valiente vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Rey Bucanero

Seductora working third from the top for no particular reason is a really obvious sign of a short roster. Lightning match will be fun. Kraneo and Guerrero Maya resume their march to the 82nd Anniversary show.

CMLL (TUE) 01/13/2015 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Metatrón vs Évola
2) Omar Brunetti & Star Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte & Maléfico
3) Dragon Lee, Esfinge, Pegasso vs Puma, Tiger, Virus
4) Blue Panther Jr., Dragón Rojo Jr., Fuego vs Ephesto, Felino, Hechicero
5) La Máscara, Marco Corleone, Máximo vs Euforia, Negro Casas, Shocker

Tercera has some promise.

IWRG (SUN) 01/11/2015 Arena Naucalpan
1) Sky Ángel vs Hip Hop Man
2) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo vs Ciclon Black, Dr. Killer, Royer Boy, Tony Rivera
Roller Boy’s name has changed?
3) Pantera I, Relámpago, Súper Nova vs Apolo Estrada Jr., Canis Lupus, El Hijo del Diablo
4) Chicano vs Eterno
5) Hijo De Dos Caras © vs Hijo de Máscara Año 2000 [IWRG Rey del Ring]
Dos Caras first defense.

Poster doesn’t list who’s champion in the main event and I could not remember who was champion until I looked it up. This is how you know the title is pointless. Dos has two.

Chicano/Eterno figures to be bloody.

It appears there’s no IWRG show today; they haven’t released a poster.

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