CMLL Puebla: 2018-04-30

catching Mije not recommended

Recapped: 05/07/2018


Asturiano & Millenium beat Ares & Sombra Diabólika
12:46 [6:28, 3:43, 2:35], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Flyer & Pegasso beat El Perverso & Fuerza Chicana
13:12 [6:31, 3:19, 3:22], 2/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

El Gallito & Microángel beat Átomo & Guapito
(10:27, ok, via 

Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Templario beat Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stigma  
(13:49 [5:58, 2:02, 5:49], 1/3, ok, via

Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Rush beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Rey Bucanero
(8:32 [3:09, 3:56, 1:27], 1/3, ok, via 

Carístico, Kráneo, Último Guerrero beat Terrible, Valiente, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match
(11:47 [2:18, 3:01, 6:28], 2/3, n/r, via 

What happened: 


The main event set up a tag title match the following week.

The micros had a one fall match. Atomo & Guapito worked as the rudos in this match between four micros who aren’t working as mascots.


Ultimo Gallito

The tercera didn’t fire on all cylinders. Templario screwed up a trip spot early, then totally lost on a torito later. In between, he mostly just put a hand on his head on shock over what had just happened repeatedly. Maya had two dives where he seemed to stop flying at the point of impact, and the impact itself wasn’t all that much. Fuego was very popular, but everyone involved has had better matches.

The Micros match showed they’re going to have trouble having good matches in this concept without the principal people involved. The crowd was the match and rooted for Gallito, but the action was a lot shakier than the previous micro matches. MicroAngel seems to get lost at times and was clumsy at other times. He may turn out fine. For now, he seems like a guy rushed to the ring because they needed one more people. Guapito looked rough too. It really didn’t matter to this crowd how good the match was, and maybe it’s just going to need CMLL picking their spots well.

The crowd reacted huge to Ares and Asturiano exchanging simple chops. It makes me wonder how they would’ve gone if there were a lot of energy in the match. Millenium did a few impressive things, but there wasn’t a lot around them. These rudos will go with those moves but aren’t interesting on their own.

this didn’t seem like it was meant to be a slam

Lucha Memes in Coacalco, IWRG, Puebla preview

photo by Black Terry Jr.

Lucha Memes (SUN) 05/13/2018 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)MedioTiempoR de Rudo]
1) Avisman b Eragón
2) Ángel o Demonio & Ovett b Alas de Acero & Iron Kid
3) Fresero Jr. & Mr. Iguana b Arez & Low Rider
Low Rider took a bump off the canvas roof, and was hurt.
4) Último Gladiador b Aramis
good match
5) Corsario Negro & Drako b Aeroboy & Demasiado
good match
6) Romano García b Keyra
7) Virus b Súper Crazy

I think the idea of the Low Rider bump was he was going to fall off the low roof onto chairs. He totally missed the chairs. I’m not sure the chairs would’ve helped. Low Rider is crazy, hope he’s OK.

Show sounds good but there wasn’t one singular match people were raving about after. With everything going on around Iguana and Memes and vetos, I was surprised to see him win on this show.

IWRG (SUN) 05/13/2018 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Power Bull b Arquero
2) Atomic Star & Leroy b Shadow Boy & Toto
Shadow Boy betrayed Toto. Atomic Boy invited Shadow Boy to join the rudos.
3) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly b Dragón Bane, Gallo Frances, Lunatic Xtreme
Gallo Frances betrayed Lunatic Xtreme (so the sons of Ovett had partners attack them in two straight matches)
4) Aramis, Hijo de Canis Lupus, Hijo de Sangre Chicana b Apolo Estrada Jr., Eterno, Ovett
Hijo de Sangre Chicana made his debut, replacing The Tiger.
5) Freelance, Ricky Marvin, Súper Mega b Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro
many fouls leading to the finish.
6) Emperador Azteca & Imposible b Trauma I & Trauma II
straight falls in a “polemica” result – excessive violence or a countout depending on the recap.

Main event might be setting up the return of Negro Navarro for a trios title match.

Today’s Puebla show seems not so great. Maybe the main event will be good, but it’s not a promising lineup otherwise. The semimain, a rematch of a not good match last week, looks particularly not good. The end product will probably be a Rush/Kraneo match on 05/21, but today’s match is a waste of time.

This is about the time of year where this building starts building a local feud for a July apuesta match. They’ve been lately doled out as a reward for long service, not as something that might be an interesting match. 2015 had Lestat/King Jaguar, 2016 had Black Tiger/King Jaguar, 2017 was Espiritu Maligno/Ares. Espiritu was flipped over to the tecnico side to make that feud worked (and flipped back to the rudo side when it was done), which makes it especially noteworthy that Sauron is suddenly listed as a tecnico in the second match. He’s been a rudo in this building for a decade, so either the likes of Lestat & Tigre Rojo Jr. were surprisingly unavailable tonight, or something is up.

Angel de Oro, Niebla Roja & Mistico versus Cuatrero, Sanson and Mephisto has the best chance of being good, though random trios main events don’t have a great track record in Puebla. Amapola, La Comandante and La Seductora take on Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, and Lady Maravilla in a women’s match. Maravilla is scheduled to appear, and the indications are she’s staying in CMLL at the moment. The show opens with Astro, Black Tiger & Meyer taking on Ares, Perverso and Rey Apocalipsis.

Lucha Central has a preview of this show. It’ll air at 9pm, but you may want to watch it later on YouTube.

+Lucha has a sit down interview with Imposible.


CMLL (SAT) 05/19/2018 Arena Coliseo
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia
2) Magnus, Príncipe Diamante, Sangre Imperial vs Akuma, Apocalipsis, Inquisidor
3) Magia Blanca, Robin, Star Jr. vs Metálico, Nitro, Universo 2000 Jr.
4) Audaz, Blue Panther, Flyer vs Felino, Luciferno, Rey Bucanero
5) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Mr. Niebla vs Titán, Valiente, Volador Jr.

One day after the Gran Alternativa final, Flyer is in a semimian. It may be just that the tecnico side is a little soft on this show; Robin working a tercera is odd too.

Invasion Indy (FRI) 06/01/2018 Arena Neza
1) Torito vs Dinamick Flay
2) Chico Che, Estrella De Oro, Sky Man vs Motocross, Punker Bizarro, Tony Cirio Jr.
3) Keyra & Toro Negro vs Quetzal & Yoruba
4) Aramis, Neza Kid, Toxin vs Centurion, Fly Warrior, Látigo
5) Black Taurus & Carístico vs Hijo de LA Park & Volador Jr.
6) LA Park vs Rush vs El Mesías

A more star powered Invasion Indy show than usual, with the Park/Rush/Mesias match coming to Mexico State.

Tortas Super Astro (SAT) 06/02/2018 Arena Azteca Budokan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México
1) Jalapano Lopez vs Alfa Jr.Miss GaviotaSéptimo Rayo
2) Montana & Sayrus vs Colosus & Yoruba and Astro Infernal & Lucifer
3) Cinthia Moreno & Mima Shimoda vs Muñeca De Plata & Rossy Moreno
4) Alas de Oro, Divino Boy, Kalibus, Magnético vs Dr. Pólux Jr., Maravilla, Maremoto Jr., Murciélago Plateado
5) Demasiado & Diva Salvaje vs Douki & Musashi
6) Demonio Infernal, Karonte Jr., Tackle vs Ángelus Fly, Imposible, Samoano
7) Baronessa vs Ludark ShaitanQuetzal
8) Ciclón Infernal & Dragosth vs Hijo De Dos Caras & Ricky Marvin
9) Laredo Kid vs Alberto el Patrón vs Xtreme Tiger

the Super Astros affiliated group is headed back inside for a show headlined by Alberto. Going to be a busy weekend for YouTube people.

1998 Coahuila/Durango lineups added to the luchadb

I added 1998 lucha libre lineups, mostly from the cities Torreon and Gomez Palacio to the luchadb database a few weeks ago. They’re integrated the different pages of this site, and they’re also just available here. This is a slow continuing project to mine the El Siglo de Torreon archive for lucha lineups and results. This time, I wrote this post before diving into the next year. It looks like I went fast, but it was actually a lot slower.

Events per year:

year events
1990 169
1991 175
1992 181
1993 151
1994 113
1995 144
1996 114
1997 199
1998 243
1999 235

(I did 1999 three years ago, because I originally thought I was going to do this backwards and then I just didn’t.)

That’s the most events in a single year. Again, it’s probably not that there were more events, but that the paper was listing lineups for more shows – maybe because of space, maybe one person was just motivated to include them. That’s the highest count to this point, though even more lineups would start turn up later in the decade.


The results for big matches are slightly up too. There’s a lot of previews that mention [X] got his head shaved last week or such the following week. It may just be that the word count on lucha libre stayed about the same overall though, because the news articles have virtually disappeared at this point. The national column is gone, the local column is long gone, and there’s only a handful of other articles. The positive news is the ones that were posted are interesting.

On March 18th, Brillante retires. It’s explained as his son asked him to retire weeks ago and he decided to do it, complete with Brillante writing a touching letter to his son. His son Christian, not Manuel (Sombra) – I didn’t remember he had a brother. It’s lucha libre, so Brillante is back in early 1999, asked to defend a title he never actually gave up and then picking up a second one. He disappears for a few more months, then wrestles under a new mask as Black Ninja for a little while before losing it and continuing back onto this day. I hope Christian got over it.

The end of the year has a big profile of one Ultimo Guerrero. He was not around home much this year, busy elsewhere: this is the year where he took Mr. Aguila’s mask, after jumping from Promo Azteca in 1997 when he was slated to lose his mask. That turned out to be a great call. Guerrero credits Blue Panther for helping him jump to CMLL. Panther previously got him, Pantera del Ring/Ephesto and Ultimo Rebelde/Lucifierno into Promo Azteca and didn’t seem to leave Promo Azteca on the best terms, so he had some stakes in making sure a protege of his made the jump.  Ultimo Guerrero had gone to Japan for the first time this year, as part of a CMLL Japan tour, and talks of possibly signing a two year deal with NJPW in 1999. Guerrero says that if that doesn’t work out, he might instead go to the WWF. This interview took place early on in the of the WWF Super Astros run, which included future partners Tarzan Boy & Rey Bucanero among others. It’s possible Ultimo Guerrero really did have a chance to go to WWF at one point, though I wonder if they would’ve asked him to unmasked like they did with Bucanero & Aguila.

Other articles include Mascarita Sagrada being upset with other people wrestling as Mascarita Sagrada, and hype for El Dorado, who comes home to Torreon this year. There’s some of the standbys:  Gomez Palacio gets a new lucha commissioner, which is the only time we hear about a commissioner. 70s? luchador Hielero Aguilar passes away. The seemingly annual history of lucha libre piece includes pre-EMLL shows this year. Mini Frankestein and El Felon make for a great picture; most of the pictures didn’t scan well.

This may be the last one of these for a while. I have some 2006 clean up to do, but probably not going to do a post about it. I was able to do half the work for the 1979 one, but the pre-1985 ones don’t have much to them and I might do something like post the 70s in two stacks. I should get back to the magazines I was looking thru for a while, but moving over the luchadb is the next free time priority.

CMLL weekend results, Torta Super Astro

photo by Black Terry Jr.

Tortas Super Astro (SAT) 05/12/2018 Tortas Super Astros, Cuauhtémoc, Distrito Federal [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)R de Rudo]
1) Kalibus & Zoy Raymunda b Divino Boy & Miss Gaviota
2) Hijo de Sangre Chicana, Jaalpeno Lopez, Tackle b Colosus, Montana, Panther Boy
3) Diva Salvaje & Rossy Moreno b Cinthia Moreno & Yoruba
4) Maravilla Strong & Maremoto b Ciclón Infernal & Dragosth
5) Demasiado & Demonio Infernal b Hijo De Dr. Pólux Jr. & Murciélago Plateado
6) Ludark Shaitan & Muñeca De Plata b Baronessa & Quetzal
7) Kawato & Súper Astro Jr. b Imposible & Ricky Marvin

If I’m using the picture I probably should post the results on the main page, but it doesn’t seem like a lot interesting happen. These outdoor shows are well attended, especially by people who film matches for YouTube.

CMLL (SAT) 05/12/2018 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Magnus & Sangre Imperial b Grako & Yago
tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito b Fantasy, Shockercito, Stukita
rudos took 1/3.
3) Dalys, La Comandante, Zeuxis b La Vaquerita, Lady Maravilla, Marcela
Rudas took 2/3. Maravilla did appear despite being listed on an upcoming AAA show.
4) Blue Panther Jr., Guerrero Maya Jr., The Panther DQ Felino, Olímpico, Rey Bucanero
Tecnicos toko 1/3. Guerrero Maya replaced Stuka. Rey Bucanero pulled Maya’s mask for the DQ. Olimpico’s first match here in two months.
5) Diamante Azul, Kraneo Stuka Jr., Valiente DQ La Bestia Del Ring, Rush, Terrible
Stuka Jr. replaced Valiente, but Valiente ended up working anyway and replacing Kraneo. Ingobernabels fouled Azul for the DQ.

Promos: Magnus & Tony Salazar (who will be on Facebook Live on Thursday), Olimpico, Guerrero Maya (who’s says he’ll take care of Rey Bucanero after he goes to ROH, but he’s not going for a month), and Stuka Jr.

CMLL (SUN) 05/13/2018 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Camorra & Hijo del Signo b Retro & Robin
Rudos took 1/3.
2) Metálico, Nitro, Sangre Azteca b Astral, Eléctrico, Oro Jr.
Rudos took 1/3.
3) Audaz, Drone, Pegasso b Kawato, Okumura, Sagrado
Kawato replaced Misterioso. Tecnicos took 1/3.
4) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón b Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr.
Rudos took 1/3.
5) Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Kráneo b Cavernario, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
Tecnicos took 2/3.

Promos: Hijo del Signo, Sangre Azteca, and Pegasso, which seems like it wasn’t a much happening for a show.

CMLL (SUN) 05/13/2018 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Destello & Destructor b Amperaje & Avispón Negro Jr.
2) Demonio Maya & Puma Negro b Capitán Cobra & Tigre Blanco
3) Mr. Apolo, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno b Black Sugar, El Divino, Mágico
4) Explosivo, Joker, Magnum DQ Difunto, Maléfico, Sádico
Sadico fouled new tecnico Joker.
5) Esfinge, Titán, Tritón b Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
Esfinge beat Hechicero before their title match.

Hechicero beat Esfinge at the sponsored show on the previous night in Guadalajara. CMLL sent the Mexico City edecanes all the way to Jalisco for a dance number; the Cementos Fortaleza people are clearly important.

House Hunters visited Arena Coliseo Guadalajara for some reason.

AAA put up the second week of the San Luis Potosi taping. They tease an OGT split in vignettes, which is something not at all seen on the taping itself and doesn’t seem to reflect the team versus team Verano de Escandalo match. I have a lot of questions about AAA right now. Maybe Friday’s taping will answer some of them.

Hollywood Reporter has a favorable review of “Cassandro the Exotico“.

AIW has Gringo Loko versus Laredo Kid in the first round of their 05/25 JLIT tournament in Cleveland.

Martinez Promotions has Lacey Lane vs Faby Apache on 06/15 in Fort Worth, which is currently the The Crash Women’s champion against the AAA Women’s Champion.

Rey Mysterio as announced as appearing on 09/01 All In card. Tickets for the show have sold out.

Templario & Ultimo Guerrero advance to Gran Alternativa final, Verano de Escandalo surprises revealed


CMLL (FRI) 05/11/2018 Arena México [CMLL, ESTOLucha Cenral]
1) Mercurio & Pequeño Violencia b Acero & Aéreo LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE MAYO DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETAS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 2/3.
2) Fuego, Pegasso, Stigma b Cancerbero, Disturbio, Raziel LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE MAYO DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETAS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora b Esfinge, Titán, Tritón LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE MAYO DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETAS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 2/3, Hechicero submitting Esfinge before their title match. Money thrown in.
Negro Casas won via casita in a very good match.
5) Templario & Universo 2000 Jr. b Star Jr.El AudazEl CoyoteAstralAkumaPríncipe Diamante [Gran Alternativa, battle royalLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE MAYO DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETAS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Kraneo replaced Dragon Lee on Tuesday.
6) Akuma & Euforia b Astral & Niebla Roja [Gran Alternativa, 8f] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE MAYO DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETAS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
7) Carístico & Star Jr. b Cavernario & El Coyote [Gran Alternativa, 8f] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE MAYO DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETAS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
8) Audaz & Kráneo b Príncipe Diamante & Valiente [Gran Alternativa, 8f] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE MAYO DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETAS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
9) Templario & Último Guerrero b Máscara Año 2000 & Universo 2000 Jr. [Gran Alternativa, 8f] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE MAYO DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETAS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
10) Carístico & Star Jr. b Akuma & Euforia [Gran Alternativa, quarterfinalLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE MAYO DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETAS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11) Templario & Último Guerrero b Audaz & Kráneo [Gran Alternativa, quarterfinalLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE MAYO DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETAS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12) Templario & Último Guerrero b Audaz & Kráneo [Gran Alternativa, semifinalLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE MAYO DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETAS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13) Ángel de Oro, Mistico, Volador Jr. b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE MAYO DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETAS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3

Reviews seem to be all over the places on this show, ranging from average to one of the best of the year. Everyone seems to agree Casas/Soberano was really good.

CMLL has post match intreviews with Dragon Rojo & Polvora, Esfinge, Triton & Titan (officially as Guanatos Style), Negro Casas, and Ultimo Guerrero & Templario. Negro Casas also crashed Soberano’s interview with the press to remember to ask for a title match. Titan talked there about going back to Ring of Honor.

CMLL looks back at Euforia winning the 2012 Gran Alternativa.

Dragon Lee posted a photo from training, so he’s still getting ready for the Best of Super Juniors even if he’s not wrestling on shows. Skadi is also in the phot, so mus be close to returning.

AAA released an updated card for Verano de Escandalo, filling in almost all of the surprise spots.

AAA TV (SUN) 06/03/2018 Plaza de Toros La Monumental, Monterrey, Nuevo León
1) Arkángel Divino, Dinastía, Hijo Del Vikingo, Star Fire vs Arez, Belial, Lady Maravilla, Último Maldito
2) Lady Shani, Mamba, Pimpinela Escarlata vs ?, Black Danger (Baja California), La Hiedra
3) Drago vs Sammy GuevaraAerostarAustralian SuicideDarby Allin
4) La Máscara, Máximo, Pagano vs Juventud Guerrera, Killer Kross, Texano Jr.
4) Hijo del Fantasma & Psycho Clown vs Brian Cage & Rey Escorpión
6) Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana [hair]
7) Dr. Wagner Jr. © vs Rey Mysterio Jr. [AAA HEAVY]

There’s one they notably did not fill in: the main event had been listed as a three way match, and now is a straight Wagner/Mysterio match. Notably, no sign of Blue Demon, Hernandez or Hijo del Dr. Wagner, who had been the focus of the promotion the first half of the year. No La Mascara or Maximo La Parka & Dave the Clown either.

Cage & Escorpion were the mystery opponents for Fantasma & Psycho. Kross & Juvy are Texano’s surprise teammates, the same as in Tehuacan next Friday. That show still is a lot of mystery people, though it’ll probably be some of the mystery people we see here. Darby Allin had be the guess as the mystery guy in the five way and will be one, but now the match is no longer for a heavyweight title match. The one mystery spot still left is the rudo side in the second match. It probably should be Faby Apache, so she and Shani can actually interact. Their “feud” is reaching the same levels of the Ivelisse/Catrina one from Lucha Underground season 3.

The opener has the most ‘new’ names, though may show up before this show. Star Fire is a long ago CMLL fringe roster member who’s been mostly been wrestling on the indies (and has missed the last couple of shows she’s been advertised.) Arez & Belial had AAA tryouts matches in 2015 but didn’t stick around when they were told they’d have to work AAA small shows around the country and decided to work their own schedule instead. That seems to have worked out for them, so I would suspect they’re also going to keep working some indie schedule if they’re being brought in at the opener level.

Lady Maravilla also was in AAA in 2015 and 2016 before jumping over to ELITE. After she left, Konnan said one reason was because referee Copetes was sexually harassing her, and an AAA/Marisela Pena investigation into it cleared Copetes. Maravilla did not make the same claim – she didn’t dismiss them either, but kind of sidestepped the topic. Copetes is listed as a referee for this show. Lady Maravilla is listed as working tonight’s Arena Coliseo show and Monday’s Arena Puebla show. Her Facebook fanclub posted a message that they say proves she’s staying with CMLL and the AAA news is false. Obviously, if she was going to AAA and had not yet informed CMLL of her decision, then that’s the story she should would have to say. Like Arez & Belial, I suspect Maravilla appearing on this card would means she would be actually returning to the indies with some AAA dates, rather than going full time with AAA. CMLL seems to view Maravilla as just one of a bunch of young women they have no plans to push this decade in a division going nowhere, so her leaving would be no big surprise.

AAA’s also quietly fixed the 05/31 Arena Aficion lineup: Big Mami & Nino Hamburugesa are now facing La Hiedra & Villano III Jr., instead of the mixed up teams they had before. Not that they know exactly what’s going on; the “La Parka” written column in Record believes Hiedra & Villano III Jr. are the champions. They are not, though they did steal the belts in an angle last year that was dropped. It’s odd to preview that lineup and not the Tehuacan show that’s actually happenign this week. Everything with AAA is a bit odd now.


RIOT has Riotmania on 05/26 in Arena LLF

The new match has a story, though not exactly related to the match. RIOT references in a hashtag, “#BloqueameEsta“, an issue that only seems to be talked about on Facebook. People in Monterrey are saying Iguana was told by Lucha Memes to no longer work for RIOT if he wanted to work for Lucha Memes. Memes hasn’t directly responded, though they have posed memes. I guess that makes sense.

Casandro spoke to the press at the premiere of a documentary on his life, saying a fictional film about his life is also being prepared. Casandro said the director is looking to get Gael Garcia Bernal to playing him. The headline makes it sound like it’s happening, the body of the article says it hasn’t been confirmed. There’s also a book coming.

LuchaWorld has their latest news update.

Lucha Central posted a Flamita, Torito, Laredo Kid, Willie Mack, Fly Warrior, Lince Dorado, Septimo Dragon match from 2016.


CMLL (FRI) 05/18/2018 Arena México
1) Astral & Eléctrico vs Espanto Jr. & Hijo del Signo
2) Blue Panther Jr., Drone, The Panther vs Okumura, Puma, Tiger
3) Fuego vs Guerrero Maya Jr. [lightning]
4) Ángel de Oro, Mistico, Soberano Jr. vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
5) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Kráneo vs La Bestia Del Ring, Rush, Terrible
6) Flyer & Volador Jr. vs Templario & Último Guerrero [Gran Alternativa, final]

Los Ingobernables versus Kraneo continues. A lot of Could Be Good undercard matches to go along with the final.

great match roundup, week of 2018-04-21


shows watched

Some above average matches. Nothing super great this week; even the indie stuff didn’t pop as much in this group.

Recommended matches

Rating matches TV Show taped
good Dalys © vs Kaho Kobayashi for the CMLL World Women’s Championship LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 23  DE ABRIL DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-04-23 2018-04-23
good The Panther vs Fuego in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ABRIL DEL 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-04-24 2018-04-24
good El Audaz, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Templario LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ABRIL DEL 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-04-24 2018-04-24
good Drone, El Audaz, Tritón vs Okumura, Tiger, Virus LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 27 DE ABRIL  DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-04-27 2018-04-27
good Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr., Titán vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 27 DE ABRIL  DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-04-27 2018-04-27
good Rush vs Kráneo CMLL: Rush vs Craneo (Arena México 27/04/18) (posted by Estrellas del Ring) LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 27 DE ABRIL  DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-04-27 2018-04-27

Other matches

rating matches TV Show taped
ok El Audaz, Lestat, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Disturbio, Kawato San, Virus LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 23 DE ABRIL DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-04-23 2018-04-23
ok Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Soberano Jr. vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 23 DE ABRIL DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-04-23 2018-04-23
ok Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Mephisto LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ABRIL DEL 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-04-24 2018-04-24
ok Princesa Sugehit vs La Seductora for the hair CMLL: Princesa Sugehit vs La Seductora (Arena México 27/04/18) (posted by Estrellas del Ring) LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 27 DE ABRIL DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-04-27 2018-04-27
ok Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Niebla Roja vs Hechicero, Rey Bucanero, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 27 DE ABRIL DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-04-27 2018-04-27
ok Atlantis, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 27 DE ABRIL DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-04-27 2018-04-27
not rated Astro & Meyer vs Espíritu Maligno & Rey Apocalipsis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 23 DE ABRIL DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-04-23 2018-04-23
not rated Príncipe Diamante & Robin vs El Malayo & King JaguarLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 23 DE ABRIL DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-04-23 2018-04-23
not rated Carístico, Kráneo, Último Guerrero vs Terrible, Valiente, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 23 DE ABRIL DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-04-23 2018-04-23
not rated Acero & Angelito vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño OlímpicoLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ABRIL DEL 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-04-24 2018-04-24
not rated Magnus, Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante vs Cancerbero, Nitro, Raziel LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ABRIL DEL 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-04-24 2018-04-24
not rated Hechicero, La Bestia Del Ring, Terrible vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Máscara Año 2000 LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 24 DE ABRIL DEL 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-04-24 2018-04-24
watch later Valiente & Volador Jr. © vs Cavernario & Negro Casas for the CMLL World Tag Team Championship Valiente & Volador Jr. © vs Cavernario & Negro Casas for the CMLL World Tag Team Championship (posted by thecubsfan) Volador Jr y Valiente vs Negro Casas y Cavernario CATEDRA DE LUCHA LIBRE, SOLO CONOCEDORES! (posted by Ingobernablemente Dinamita TV) CMLL Guadalajara: 2018-04-21 2018-04-17

CMLL Gran Alternativa Block B tonight, Atlantis & Stuka & Maya to ROH in June, Mysterio in HOLL

Usually, my previews of tournament focus on all the different possibilities that could happen. This is not one of those previews. Templario & Ultimo Guerrero are almost definitely winning this block of the Gran Alternativa, and likely winning this tournament. It’d take something like Templario breaking a leg for it not to happen. He’s very good, he’s got a partner who wins a whole lot, and there’s barely a credible opponent. You can reach and think that maybe CMLL thinks nearly as highly of Audaz, or maybe Universo 2000 Jr. gets a sympathy push, but they’re all extreme long shots. This is less a competition than an obvious coronation.

What would make for a strong coronation is a good bunch of wins leading up to that crowning. In that vein, it’s a tremendous disappointment Audaz & Dragon Lee aren’t still a team to provide the best of those possible wins. It makes all the sense for Dragon Lee not to be here – there’s no reason for him to risk his health with three possible matches when he’s unlikely to be 100% anyway – but a big build to Kraneo & Audaz definitely doesn’t have the same appeal. A tournament path where UG & Templario beat Valiente & Principe DIamante, Caristico & Star Jr. and Kraneo & Audaz doesn’t have a tremendous amount of excitement in it.

It’ll be up to Soberano and Negro Casas to provide the excitement. It’s a no time limit one fall match, following on their 10 minute draw last month. The irony is that was probably Negro Casas’ longest singles match of the year. They’re a good bet to go under 10 this time, because Casas seems to feel he’s better in shorter amount (and probably knows better than me.) A shorter length will keep the pace pretty fast, and this should be worth watching after.

The main event is Mistico, Volador and Angel de Oro against Mephisto, Lucifierno, and Ephesto, which figures to be a quick showcase for the tecnicos. Titan, Triton, and Esfinge versus Dragon Rojo, Polvora and Hechicero looks like the better trios match; perhaps they’ll follow up on the Esfinge/Hechicero feud elsewhere. That wouldn’t be normal for CMLL, but Hechicero works smarter than most. Fuego, Pegasso and Stigma versus Disturbio, Raziel and Cancerbero promises to be a match, and Aereo & Acero versus Mercurio & Pequeno Violencia might not even be that much.

CultIcon has a preview of the show. The show airs at 8:30pm, on and Facebook, though there’s no link for that when I wrote this. I’m probably not going to be around, so you’re on your own if the feeds don’t work. Or you need to bug me very loudly.

CMLL looks back at Polvora winning the 2010 Gran Alternativa.

ROH & CMLL announced Atlantis will appear on ROH’s on June 15 show in San Antonio and June 16th. Wrestling Observer mentions Guerrero Maya Jr. & Stuka Jr. will also appear. CMLL luchadors working those Texas shows has been a consistent part of the relationship, one of the few reliable parts of the relationship.

I loudly voiced my opinion that Atlantis in ROH was a not a good idea on Twitter. Atlantis was slowing down even before his knee injury, but he could’ve figured out some way to get thru the ROH matches if he was there a year ago or three. He was doing fine at FantasticaMania. This year’s version of Atlantis has not looked good and seems to be getting worse, as if the knee hasn’t healed right for him or if age suddenly caught up. He seems to be sticking around primarily so he can team with his son, and is also saying that son isn’t going to be ready to wrestle until maybe late this year or next. Atlantis just seems to be intent on surviving until then, which doesn’t make for great matches. (And probably means he won’t be losing his mask any time soon.)

Atlantis is working in ROH because Atlantis wants to be in ROH. It wouldn’t be happening any other way. Atlantis’ only US major promotion appearance was a one match appearance on WCW Worldwide, where the announcers pretended he was Lizmark Jr. for the entire match. I’d suspect part of him wants a real US major promotion appearance to check it off his career list, and that’s what this is all about for him. I just also think the memory he’s going to leave for people who’ve never seen him before and will only see him there will not be a greatly positive one.

The flip side is these are not really big ROH shows, so a bad match on a normal house show far away from home is not really that big of a deal. The Texas shows seemed to draw well, from what I saw going back thru them a couple months ago, and they’ll likely be streamed on ROH’s service this year. That’s still not that many people – it’s not like Atlantis is in danger of being an anchor on a PPV or a TV taping, it’s just something only the dedicated of ROH fans are going to ever see. If ROH had to use Atlantis, there are worse ways to use him.

Rey Mysterio Jr. was announced for the 06/02 Heroes of Lucha Libre show a few days ago. SoCalUncensored adds that Rey was originally planned for a later show, and moved up because of concern about how that June show is going to do. They also appear to be offering discounts.

An interview with Mil Mascaras has him noting he’s not been giving many calls for work later, and theorizes it’s because he’s a serious wrestler and they don’t want serious wrestlers nowadays.

+LuchaTV has a new Aqui La Lucha.

A profile of Pachuca rudo Tiger Japan.


CMLL (TUE) 05/15/2018 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Capitán Cobra & Principe Daniel vs Exterminador & Frezzer
2) Magnus, Star Black, Star Jr. vs Cancerbero, Guerrero de la Muerte, Raziel
3) El Audaz, Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr. vs Cavernario, Dragón Rojo Jr., Felino
4) Hechicero © vs Esfinge [NWA LH]
fifth defense
5) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Volador Jr. vs La Bestia Del Ring, Rush, Terrible

The title match is happening on a Tuesday. Hechicero is also just wrestling in this building three times over four days. I do not expect a title change.

CMLL (TUE) 05/15/2018 Arena México
1) Retro & Sangre Imperial vs Cholo & Espíritu Negro
2) Bengala, Oro Jr., Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Príncipe Odín Jr., Yago
3) Estrellita, La Maligna, Princesa Sugehit vs Dalys, La Metálica, Zeuxis
4) Pólvora vs Sagrado [lightning]
5) Blue Panther, Titán, Tritón vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
6) Carístico, Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr. vs Mr. Niebla, Shocker, Último Guerrero

Tuesday shows often aren’t great but this one is particularly unpromising. Shocker’s back for the first time in a month. Arkangel hasn’t been around for two months. Espiritu Negro makes his first appearance since Sangre Imperial broke his face last year, immediately face Sangre Imperial. The lightning match is no good, the women’s match doesn’t seem promising. Maybe the semimain will be good but it’s not a great sign when 2018 Epehsto & Luciferno are in the best match.

2018 watch later catch up, part 5 of ∞

Aramis dive

El Bandido vs Niebla Roja
(TSW @ Arena San Juan Pantitlan on 01/01, 11:35, good, via +LuchaTV)

Bandido doing well elsewhere is usually the way to point out how great it is he didn’t stay in CMLL. In this one, Bandido faces a CMLL wrestler to make the same point. Niebla Roja is technically alright but never feels like he gets out of Tuesday lightning match gear. He never seems to realize he’s wrestling in a (mostly empty) Arena San Juan instead of a (mostly empty) Arena Mexico. It’s a slow match early and one where Bandido feels plugged into an above average formula without either man really challenging what they can do. The finish is extremely weird – I think Niebla Roja gives up, and then puts his foot on the ropes to break the hold. It’s not much of an out, even as he protests

Bandido’s tope con giro always looks good in the building
a fight over an armbar

Dulce Gardenia vs Syrus, hair vs hair
(AMLL @ Arena Azteca, Torreón, Coahuila on 04/03, 23:24, good, via LUCHAMANIA AMLL)

An apuesta match that feels vicious and bloody at times. I wanted to see Syrus again after seeing him on the KDojo shows and he works well here as a rudo. His timing on spots is pretty good; the jumping kneelift to cut off a dive is a different spot than I’ve seen for that moment and works well here. Gardenia is nominally an exotico but it’s not much part of the match here outside of his outfit. Gardenia does a lot more traditional offense and comes off as a good athlete. The rudo referee stuff doesn’t really add much or go anywhere, but they do make a story out of Gardenia limping around by the end. I think they peaked well before the actual finish, but the crowd was way into to the actual end.

Syrus takes a big fall
heads up!
violence as comedy

Esfinge & Tritón vs Disturbio & Virus for the Arena Coliseo Tag Team in a tournament final match
(CMLL @ Arena Coliseo on 03/10, 18:07, good, via Princesa DoradaPrincesa DoradaPrincesa Dorada)

It was nice to be able to see a CMLL title match, even if CMLL couldn’t just air it themselves. This two teams had a fair match given it was a non-TV match on the least important show of the week, and it’s only disappointing in the idea that it could’ve been some hidden classic. Neither técnico really works a mat style to go with Virus, and Triton or even Esfinge doesn’t have a great showcase of moves in this one. it’s a midlevel combination of what they all do well with nothing really feeling like a big match until the last few minutes. They were effective in what they do pull off, but they do something more than rush thru finishers at the end to bring it up. This was solidly good but the idea of the match was more interesting than the match itself.

Triton rope walk headscissors
Virus ringpost armdrag

Ricky Marvin vs Kawato
(Lucha Memes @ Coliseo Coacalco on 03/11, 11:27, good, via +LuchaTV)

Kawato was closer to his Japanese reputation than he has shown in CMLL, showing fire and intensity that’s not really present in his rudo act. He was a young boy trying to fight over his status and getting brutally shut down, and Ricky Marvin brutally shuts him down in a great closing stretch. The earlier portions of the match are more disjointed, seeming like Marvin has a plan of what they’re going to and CMLL Kawato is along for the ride while being mildly confused. These Lucha Memes Marvin matches have been the best possible version of the grump rudo act, where he gives his young opponents enough moments to make them look like something worth defeating, and then still looks like a monster in destroying them. Marvin never felt truly in danger of being beat here, and I’d like to see the rematch in nine months when maybe Kawato can get that far and make the first half work better. Generally, I’d like to see him in these matches rather than what we’ve got out of him in CMLL.

Kawato dropkick
Marvin DVD
Marvin hammers Kawato

Negro Casas vs Aramis
(Lucha Memes @ Coliseo Coacalco on 03/11, 9:04, great, via +LuchaTV)

Negro Casas gave Aramis chances to look really good in this match, and Aramis fully took advantage. They built the match well towards the finish and around the casita, with the battle escalating the entire way. Casas was there for every big spot Aramis wanted to do, and Aramis made them look good. The toughest part was convincing the crowd that Aramis had a chance; his kneebar looked great, but the crowd didn’t react at all like it was a possible ending. Everything else went really well, and it made for a satisfying match.

superplex onto a hard ring

Ricky Marvin vs Dr. Cerebro in a super libre match
(IWRG @ Arena Naucalpan on 03/11, 10:01, good, via +LuchaTV)

The early brawl was great, though it felt like they kind of punched themselves out and slowed down quick as a result. It was still a strong fight the whole way. Marvin having a plan to attack the knee from the start and following it thru the match feels totally different for IWRG. Marvin the bruiser needs something more to his look but it’s an effective character.

Marvin knocked out of the bar
a nice transition into the submission

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-04-24 


Recapped: 05/02/2018


Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico beat Acero & Angelito 
(14:51 [7:09, 3:13, 4:29], 1/3, n/r, via

Cancerbero, Nitro, Raziel beat Magnus, Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante
(14:37 [6:06, 2:59, 5:32], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

The Panther went to a time limit draw with Fuego in a lightning match
(10:00, good, via 

Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Templario beat El Audaz, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa  
(13:58 [5:58, 1:31, 6:29], 1/3, good, via

Hechicero, La Bestia Del Ring, Terrible beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Máscara Año 2000
(13:17 [6:56, 2:21, 4:00], 1/3, n/r, via 

Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Mephisto
(7:50 [4:11, 3:39], 1/2, ok, via

What happened: 

Panther was locking on the nudo lagunero as time ran out, and may have gotten it if the match went 10:15.


a new move

There was little drama to the main event. The rudos took control only long enough to set up another wave of técnico offense in the first fall. The second fall didn’t even contain that much, with the almost-Sky Team just running thru the opposition with not much of a fight. The execution needed to be a little bit smoother or more spectacular for me, but it did seem to get money thrown in anyway. A normal two fall match with nothing to it is at least something that should be tried more often.

The fourth match would be worth watching just to see Audaz and Templario work together. They appear to be each other’s best opponents at this point, but have been split apart this year as CMLL focuses on Audaz/Virus instead. Audaz seems most comfortable trying his trickiest moves with Templario, and Templario showed more than his standard routine. Templario being added to the Revolucionarios is the tease right now, but they seemed to make less an attempt to work him in than Puma & Tiger had.

The lightning match was another draw, and another one where having the same side guys worked to the determinant. It would’ve been interesting to see The Panther attempt to be a rudo for a night, but instead we got to see a lot of moves. I generally liked the moves, but could see others – there was no particular flow or story to the moves, they just did as much as they could to get to the 9:50 mark and then had Panther put on his hold. The Panther’s modified 619 kick takes even more of a forced set up than a 619 but it’s The Panther actually trying a new move so I’m not totally down on it.

Hechicero elbow