Lucha Memes, Pierrothito advances in minis tournament

CMLL (SAT) 02/18/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Bengala, Flyer, Leono b Akuma, Camorra, Cholo
tecnicos took 1/3
2) Estrellita, La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit b Amapola, La Comandante, Zeuxis
Tecnicas took 2/3. Sugehit beat Zeuxis to set up a title match next week.
3) Blue Panther, Drone, Tritón b Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys
Tecnicos took 2/3. Dragon Rojo was hurt at the end of the match, but said he was OK later on.
4) Titán, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Rey Bucanero
Volador replaced Caristico. Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Último Guerrero DQ Rush
UG took 2/3, Rush for the DQ.

CMLL was probably pretty aware Caristico was missing all the shows this weekend whenever they sent Volador in his place for the Lucha Libre Boom show, but decided to make no effort to announce substitutions on their own shows this weekend or even acknowledge that changes were being made.

CMLL (SUN) 02/19/2017 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Artillero & Inquisidor b Robin & Sensei
Rudos took 2/3.
2) Fuego, Magnus, Starman b Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Nitro
tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Pierrothito b Eléctrico, Pequeño Astro, Stukita, Fugaz, Aéreo, Mercurio, Pequeño Violencia, Pequeño Universo 2000, Espíritu Maligno [CMLL MINI, #1 Contenders]
Arena Mexico debuts for Fugaz (Guadalajara), Aereo (Puebla) and Espiritu Magino (Puebla – he’d wrestled in Arena Coliseo prior.) Rudos vs tecnicos. Eliminations: Pequeno Universo (Fugaz), Aereo (Espiritu Maligno), Pequeno Violencia (Astro; each of the new guys got a pinfall to start), Fugaz (Mercurio), Espiritu Maligno (Stukita), Astro (Pierroth; each of the new guys pinned in the same sequence), Mercurio & Electrico (DDQ), and Pierrothito beat Stukita to advance. He’ll face next week’s winner on 03/05
4) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Stuka Jr. b Bobby Villa, Felino, Misterioso Jr.
5) Atlantis, Máximo Sexy, Mistico DQ Cavernario, Ephesto, Mephisto
Mistico replaced Caristico, Cavernario fouled him for the DQ.

Neither of those guys – or Caristico – are booked next week, so the main event DQ was just to do a DQ.

The lineup for next week has another minis cibernetico, so this was one of those times where CMLL just doesn’t explain what they were doing. Pierrothito and Pequeno Violencia are calling themselves the Pequeno Ingobernables now.

Lucha Memes (SUN) 02/19/2017 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México [@TKD_117, +LuchaTV]
1) Demasiado & Diva Salvaje b Baby Star & Black Metal
2) Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako b Totem I & Totem II
money thrown in
3) Demus 3:16 b Astrolux
Astrolux looked good before Demus destroyed him.
4) Virus b Belial
very good match
5) Black Terry & Negro Navarro © b El Cuatrero & Sansón [Arena Coliseo TAG]
first defense. Good match.
6) Alas de Acero & Iron Kid © b Dragón Negro & Sádico [EdM TAG]
Crazy match.
7) Yoshitatsu b Aramis
Short match. Aramis looked good.
8) Hechicero b Ronnie Mendoza
best match on the show

Sounds like it was a fun show. Hechicero/Mendoza seems like an obvious pick for one of the VOD matches, but they could go with a few different choices for match 2.

Jocay took a Periscope of Penta vs Rey Horuz from New York today.

Vampiro says AAA sold out their show in Tijuana on Sunday. Elegido says they sold out in Morelos today.

Konnan & Zorro showed up as a surprises on tonight’s Arena Coliseo Monterrey show, helping out Garza Jr. Konnan talked about “cleaning up the damage other wrestling promoters have done” with the Crash and independents. The big group appearance of La Rebelion in Monterrey is tomorrow.

Mistico was scheduled for a show in Autlautla, Estado de Mexico, but says he canceled due to not getting payment from the promoter.

Trauma II appeared for the first time in months at a show in Iraputo.

Takashi Sasaki and Daisuke Masaoka are announced for the DTU show on 03/24 in Arena Aficiona 03/26 show in Tulancingo. As mentioned on the podcast, there’s a really good chance that 03/24 DTU show is another iPPV.

AAA posted this week’s TV show.

Garza Jr. is interviewed on this week’s The Dave Dynasty show.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Tampico luchador Relampago Gutierrez passed away.


CMLL (SUN) 02/26/2017 Arena México
1) Magia Blanca, Magnus, Oro Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Sangre Azteca, Skándalo
2) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Johnny Idol vs Felino, Luciferno, Tiger
3) Último Dragóncito vs Fantasy, Aéreo, Shockercito, Reiko, Demus 3:16, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Relámpago, Pequeño Joker [cibernetico, CMLL MINI, #1 Contenders]
4) Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Vangellys
5) Marco Corleone, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs La Máscara, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero

Released in Box Y Lucha, may change when it’s posted on CMLL’s website. More outside names in the minis match. Reiko and Relampago are from Guadalajara, there may be confusingly two different Relampagos wrestling in Guadalajara, or this one wrestles indie shows too. Pequeño Joker is usually Mini Joker in Puebla. (The original CMLL minis used “Mini”, CMLL switched to Pequeño after that group left for AAA.) Ultimo Dragoncito & Shockercito are the two obvious favorites. CMLL wasn’t afraid to do a tecnico/tecnico minis title match previously, so a rudo/rudo final isn’t out of the question.

como estaz 4×11: Terry’s friend Gersom

(this is not Gersom)

Rob & TKD are back in Mexico, and they bring along Black Terry Jr. and Gersom of Sensacional de Luchadors to talk about the shows they’ve seen the first couple days of the trip. I ask questions along the way. There’s discussing of the Friday night Lucha Libre Boom show, Juventued Guerrera’s Super X show (with a strange referee), and Saturday night in Arena Coliseo. Plus, we talk with Gersom about how got into filming lucha libre and discuss how we think the current rise in paid lucha libre content is going to work out. The podcast runs just about two hours.

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Thanks for listening. We’ll be back in a month, if not sooner.


Ultimo Guerrero & Valiente advance, La Llave a la Gloria, LLB

photo by Black Terry Jr

CMLL (FRI) 02/17/2017 Arena México [CMLL, CultIcon, Estrellas del RIng, SuperLuchas, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Eléctrico & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pierrothito
2) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Sanely b Metálica, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
Tecnicas took 2/3.
3) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. DQ Kráneo, Pierroth, Yoshitatsu
straight falls in a poor match, with Azul unmasking Pierroth for the DQ.. Azul & Pierroth agreed to a mask match at Dos Leyendas
4) Negro Casas & Ripper vs Terrible, Último Guerrero, La Máscara, Euforia, Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero [natl pi, seeding battle royal]
all rudos in the match
5) Atlantis & Euforia b Dragón Rojo Jr. & Guerrero Maya Jr. [natl pi, 8f]
Rojo unmasked Maya after the match
6) Rush & Terrible b Hechicero & Stuka Jr. [natl pi, 8f]
7) Último Guerrero & Valiente b Dragón Lee & La Máscara [natl pi, 8f]
8) Mistico & Negro Casas b Ripper & Titán [natl pi, 8f]
9) Atlantis & Euforia b Rush & Terrible [natl pi, quarterfinal]
10) Último Guerrero & Valiente b Mistico & Negro Casas [natl pi, quarterfinal]
11) Último Guerrero & Valiente b Atlantis & Euforia [natl pi, semifinal]
UG & Valiente face Volador & Cavernario next week

Ultimo Guerrero wins! Ultimo Guerrero winning next week seems like the most likely outcome.

The recaps are very definite on Pierroth and Diamante Azul agreeing to a mask match. The old theory was CMLL would never have Pierroth wager his mask because (as most people know), he’s already lost a mask in Arena Mexico. The old theory doesn’t appear to be correct. This would be a lackluster match for Homenaje a Dos Leyendas but that doesn’t seem to be a concern and the challenges are said to have gotten a big reaction.

There’s still a month away from the show, and time for the main event to change. The press conference locks it in – sometimes they come right after mask challenges like that, sometimes they wait until a couple weeks before the show.

LLB (FRI) 02/17/2017 Arena Lopez Mateos [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), R de Rudo]
1) Epidemia, Kid Jaguar, Osiris b Devil Terror, Macho IV, Macho V
2) Mini Pinochito b Felinito, Bracito De Plata, Súper Loco, Águila Solitaria, Caramelito, Panterita [LLB MINI]
Aguila was stretched out after hitting the barrier on a tope
3) Atomik Star, Fly Star, Heronia, Toxin Boy b Araña de Plata Jr., Crazy Star (F), Lunatik Fly, the Tiger (Tamaulipas)
Star Warrior (Black Warrior Jr.) attacked Atomic Star after the match.
4) Axxel, Fandango, Golden, Kempo Dragón b Ninja de Fuego, Sagrado, Shadow, Tony Rivera
Axxel submitted Sagrado. Challenges followed.
5) Carta Brava Jr. (IWL), Cerebro Negro, Fantasma de la Ópera b Apolo Estrada Jr., Eterno, Fresero Jr.
Fresero was stretched out.
6) Aero Boy & Violento Jack b Cíclope & Miedo Extremo and Ángel o Demonio & Ovett and Halloween & X-Fly
7) Black Warrior, Juventud Guerrera, Súper Crazy DQ Mr. Águila, Ronnie Mendoza, Volador Jr.
Volador replaced Carsitico (injury?). Warrior fouled Volador for the DQ.

Sounds like this was a good show from the people who were there. Seemed decently full in Arena Lopez Mateos. Still no update on how badly Caristico’s hurt, but obviously it’s some issue since he’s been gone all week.

Goya Kong won the women’s cage match in Arena Neza. Building looks about half full.

Saturday Arena Coliseo has Rush vs Ultimo Guerrero in the main event. AAA is in Tijuana with a three way tag match. Martinez is running a show with Violento Jack vs Penta in Texas.

Sunday Arena Mexico is a mostly normal show with a minis cibernetico. The final two face off next week for the vacant CMLL Minis championship. (That match probably should be stream this week, definitely next week, but no idea if either will be streamed.) Sunday’s match is the debut of Arena Puebla’s Astro, but he’s really more Contla, Tlaxcala’s Astro. His hometown paper notes he’ll be the first Tlaxcala luchador to wrestle in Arena Mexico in modern times. Tlaxcala is one of the smaller Mexican states, though densely populated. It just doesn’t seem to have much of a lucha libre infrastructure – most of the ‘locals’ working shows there are from nearby Puebla. (That article also mention Astro’s real name.)

A few more notes on the La Llave a la Gloria contest. The general message was the same as with the Psycho/Wagner mask match: everything’s not just fine in AAA, they’re having their biggest and best year ever. It’s not crystal clear how many winners there will be; some reports just mention one winner but second and third place awards, some said each a man/woman/mini/exotico, some said exotico was a maybe. I think it’s probably safe to assume they’re working all of this out as they go and not to expect to stick to exactly what they’ve said in February by the time TripleMania comes around. MedioTiempo’s report notes that AAA said luchadors beyond the winners may be signed, which makes sense and is the norm in any talent search. Dinastia, Mamba and Nino Hamburguesa were brought on as examples of people who’ve achieved the dream of making it to AAA. Dinasita won the Quien Pinta Por La Corona contest. Mamba & Hamburguesa did not, but did well enough that they were brought back in later on.

Vampiro emphasized they don’t need someone with great ability, but with great heart. The plan is to make this an annual thing. (Like with the previous contest, that’s probably up to the sponsors.) Vampiro hypes it as being previously impossible to join AAA, which I guess means Dave the Clown did the impossible. In truth, AAA doesn’t seem to have the time/resources to go search for talent that’s not presented to them, so this is a way to get more people to come to them. Vampiro says he’s going to have veterans like Wagner, Parka, Marvin, Averno and Chessman help him teach the new guys.

SuperLuchas is the only one I’ve seen so far who got a quote from Dorian Roldan about the logo. He says it’s tough to know who came up with what, but AAA definitely doesn’t want to offend, sometimes mistakes happen, and this is just the first teaser for La Llave a la Gloria – implying we’ll see a different logo in the future. (It’s really not tough to know; the Arizona lucha libre group had been using the logo for years, Dorian says this idea started six months ago. FWIW, I do suspect it was Record or Roshfrans who came up with this logo and Roldan is just being a good partner by not blaming them.)  Dorian also says Vampiro was one of many people AAA considered for the director of talent position, Dorian also reaffirmed the idea of closer bonds between AAA and Lucha Underground, saying that’s his goal as “head of Lucha Underground”. I know there’s some drama about the Lucha Underground organizational chart or whatever but, at least for the Mexican press, Dorian was presenting himself as the guy on the top of the pyramid.

Marco Corleone had thoughts about what AAA is actually looking for in this contest. People who win are going to be paid in mild TV exposure, and should expect not to be paid much in money beyond that. It’s very noticable AAA is promising chances but not saying how the winner is actually going to get paid for winning.

Alberto, Tinieblas Jr., Zumbi and Hip Hop Man are doing an interview on Wednesday. That could have more details on the Distriomania shows in May.

DTU announced Takashi Sasaki for their 03/24 show.

+LuchaTV has a new edition of Aqui Esta La Lucha

LuchaWorld has their latest podcast.


CMLL (FRI) 02/24/2017 Arena México
1) Robin & Star Jr. vs Cancerbero & Raziel
2) Esfinge, Soberano Jr., Tritón vs Misterioso Jr., Okumura, Sagrado
3) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
4) Ángel de Oro vs Dragón Rojo Jr. [lightning]
5) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone vs Pierroth, Rush, Yoshitatsu
6) Cavernario & Volador Jr. vs Último Guerrero & Valiente [natl pi, final]

Yoshitatsu seems to be with the Ingobernables on Fridays, but just a random rudo other days. Angel de Oro & Rey Bucanero did a split up on last week’s show, Dragon Rojo & Guerrero Maya did a split up last night, so obviously teh follow up is Angel de Oro vs Dragon Rojo. Should be good anyway. Main event really should be too.

CMLL TRAGEDIAS (SAT) 03/04/2017 Deportivo Pavón, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal
1) ? vs ??
2) Metálico & Skándalo vs Demasiado & Magnético
3) Marcela & Sanely vs Dalys & Zeuxis
4) Bobby Z & Dragón Rojo Jr. vs El Cuatrero & Sansón and Bengala & Rey Bucanero
5) Ángel de Oro, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero
6) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Máximo vs La Máscara, Pierroth, Rush

A Brazo de Plata 40th Anniversary show. He’s not wrestling on this one – though he is listed on one the next day. This is probably also a fundraiser for his medical expenses, and a 40 year veteran who’s been on top for 30 years still needing charily shows to pay for wrestling related injuries is probably a good reason not to join the wrestling business. Goya Kong & Psycho Clown can’t wrestle on the show, but will sign autographs.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-02-14

Star Jr. moonsault

Recapped: 02/16/2017

What happened: Ephesto pinned Volador twice to get a title shot next week. That’s about it.

Also, there’s a new Roshfrans mat. Or at least it seemed new to me. It’s very black. The CMLL logo is now on screen the entire show (which is how it is often on the NJPW World version of this show.)

What was good: a This was one of those shows where I rated pretty much everything OK. They’re always different levels of OK, but they’re all in the same range where you don’t really need to go back to watch them.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s channel. (more…)

Torneo Increible de Parejas, Yoshitastu, La Llave a la Gloria


Tonight’s the second block of the CMLL Torneo Increible de Parejas. Volador & Cavernario made it thru last week’s group, and would work as opponents for pretty much anyone. Block B has about four teams who are at the usual level of those who win these tournaments, and about four who would be Valiente type surprises. The long shots are easy to dismiss: Hechicero & Stuka, Titan & Ripper, and Guerrero Maya & Dragon Rojo all could be fun teams, but aren’t usual main eventers. Rush is, but CMLL’s done very little with Terrible, and that’s enough to dismiss that team too.

Euforia doesn’t get a lot more than Terrible, but Atlantis & Euforia have won this tournament before and Atlantis wins this tournament half the time, so they may go away. Dragon Lee & La Mascara is last year’s anniversary match as a team, which could mean they work together and go along way, but probably means they’ll betray each other instead. (Rush vs La Mascara seems inevitable.) Ultimo Guerrero & Valiente are probably the favorites because Ultimo Guerrero is involved. I think Negro Casas & Mistico would set up the bigger tournament final next week, with teammates against teammates on both sides.

The tournament has no bad teams, everything could be a quality match, but time and angles will likely prevent the matches from being too good.

The rest of the card is not all that much. Yoshitatsu debuts in the tercera. (CMLL changed all of their lineup this morning to make his name one word as used in NJPW, instead of the two word “Yoshi Tatsu” spelling used in WWE.) He says he’s in until March 4th. Tatsu seemed to be turning heel and is a rudo on CMLL shows, though that could just be CMLL reflexively booking a foreigner as a rudo. We’ve seen Nakamura and Naito come to Mexico to tweak their characters before introducing those changes in NJPW, and I suspect that’s what is going on here.

Tatsu pulls a rough match to start, teaming with Kraneo & Pierroth against Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone and Volador. That’ll be mostly about the Pierroth/Diamante Azul feud. CMLL’s now five Fridays out from the Homenaje a Dos Leyendas show and the main event should be starting to take shape. It’s about time for mask challenges to be made (and more people to get sucked in, if they’re going for a cage match.)

The other two matches are a minis match (Electrico & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pierroth), which just happens to include the four best choices for next minis champion, and a women’s match (La Vaqureita, Marcela, Sanely vs Metalica, Reina Isis, Tiffany) which seems a bad idea. Metalica is officially a endorsed as a good luchadora if this is a good match, because she’s not been given much help.

CultIcon has a preview of the show, which I always enjoy reading but definitely more so on the days where I only realize I typed the wrong women’s matches after noticing he’s talking about a different one.

The show starts at the usual start time of 8:30pm, airing on ClaroSports. I’m not going to be around – I’m going to AAW, where I’ll see Hijo del Fantasma versus Low Ki and Rey Fenix in trios action – but I’ll try my best to record it remotely anyway.

There’s another notable show tonight in the Mexico City area. Lucha Libre Boom runs Arena Lopez Mateos with a random Caristico, Mr. Aguila, and Ronnie Mendoza versus Black Warrior, Juventud Guerrera, and Super Crazy trios main event. I guess Caristico/Warrior, Aguila/Juvy and Mendoza/Crazy all have history but it looks odd together. Semimain is a four way extreme match and there’s more Mexico City indie guys on the rest of the show.

AAA held a press conference today, mostly to talk about the La Llave a la Gloria contest. The video is here, and, as you can see, they still used the stolen logo. Maybe that’ll come up in post panel interviews. Most of the details about the contest were already known – sign up closes in 5 days, the tryout is a week from Saturday, winner on TripleMania – but that tryout was better explained here as the first stage in a contest that will last all the way thru August. Before, they mentioned it as just being one winner, but now it’s one winner in minis, female, exotico and men’s division. (That means TripleMania will have a Relevos AAA – at least Dinastia has a shot at making the card.)

There’s two over riding themes to the contest: riding the current patriotic wave in Mexico by trying to boost the nation’s wrestling, and AAA as a promotion that’s created new stars for 25 years creating one more in the winner of this contest. That’s kind of the reaction to departures: AAA has unyielding faith in their ability to create new stars, so while those departures may hurt in this moment, they’ll made those guys and they’ll make the guys who replace them. (They and CMLL are pretty alike in this aspect.)

The big reveal was Vampiro as the new director of talent for AAA. (Or it would’ve been reveal if Leo Riano didn’t write about it two days ago.) Essentially, he’s taking over Konnan’s position, as those two guys continue to be linked forever. There had been reports of Vampiro working in this role all the way back to last year’s Lucha World Cup, but it had never been made official and Konnan even recently said Vampiro had left AAA. If there was an issue, it’s obviously worked out. Vampiro gave a strong pro-AAA and pro-Lucha Libre speech to close the press conference.

MedioTiempo talked to Penta el Zero M about his AAA exit. In this one, Penta says he never told AAA he was leaving, but he had previously had conversations with AAA about problems he was having and did not feel AAA was listening to him. Since they weren’t listening to him, he didn’t feel there was a point in telling him he was leaving. Penta notes Zorro did give AAA notice, and claims AAA is trying block Zorro from working places just the same. (Zorro hasn’t seem to confirm this – he did RT me mentioning in on Twitter, but Zorro’s like a lot of luchadors who will seem to blindly RT anything which mentions their name.) Penta wants promoters to contact him directly if they want him to get him booked; he knows there’s a perception that Konnan convinced him and others to quit AAA , but Penta wants it clear that this was his own decision and he’s handling his own business.

Flamita & Hijo de Octagon were on opposite sides of the match for maybe the first time Wednesday in San Luis Potosi. Sabor del Ring says the match was more a feud between Flamita & Golden Magic then a working off what was a big story last year – Golden Magic stole the pin on Octagon at the end from Flamita. (Bandido replaced Jack Evans in the match, though Jack was still there on crutches.)

Super Comando vs Artillero has been added to the GH show at Gimnasio Hercules on 02/26. Super Comando has been back in Mexico this month, though his name hasn’t shown up much. He was in the US for almost all of 2016.

The AAA spot show in San Luis Potosi has a 11 person Copa Hijo del Perro Aguayo. Joe Lider is the only Perro del Mal left and he’s in it, though former members and associates Texano Jr., Averno, Hijo del Fantasma and Ayako Hamada are involved. Ayako showed up at AAA San Luis Potosi a while back but hasn’t been seen elsewhere much, perhaps she’s living in the area?

RobViper has a music video of Elite 05/04/16

Segunda reviews some recent matches, has strong feelings on Delta/Galactar.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Fuego en el Ring has a new edition of their podcast. I really need an audio feed of these podcasts.

Lucha Underground Season 2 starts airing on KIX TV in south east Asia (think Malaysia) this Monday.

A photographer talks about her experience shooting ringside at DTU show in 2015, with photos. I do like the photographer thinking that maybe they wouldn’t be allowed to take photos, when I see a half dozen people at ringside with camera phones on half the indie shows these days.

Tony Rodriguez is looking hard for a partner for the RIOT show.


NGX (SAT) 03/25/2017 Gimnasio Factores Mutuos, Monterrey, Nuevo León
1) Xtreme Boy vs Gemelo Muerte
2) Demenzía vs Sol Naciente
3) Lord Byron vs Psicótico, Core
4) Epydemius vs Centinela, Guerrillero, Último Ninja
5) Aeroboy & Violento Jack vs Daisuke Masaoka & Takashi Sasaki

Masaoka & Sasaki are from FREEDOMS in Japan, where Violento Jack & Miedo Extremo spent the second half of 2016. It’s a safe assumption they’re working the 03/24 DTU show in Arena Aficion,

CMLL Puebla: 2017-02-13 

couldn’t believe they did this

Recapped: 02/15/2017

What happened: Rush cheated to beat Diamante Azul. Virus won a cibernetico.

What was good: The cibernetico was the one good match on the show, though it was overall better than usual.

Where can I watch it: It’s on CMLL’s YouTube channel. (more…)

lucha TV preview for weekend of February 17th

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Not exactly Mexican wrestling, but Tim pointed out WWC’s Saturday and Sunday shows are moving to 1pm ET, an hour later than they had been airing. That change is not reflected on my TV’s guide; you may just want to extend your recording an extra hour if you DVR the show to be safe.

(We’re also at the point where I’m going to be canceling WAPA soon if no other lucha turns up. I think I’m giving it a little bit longer, but not much. I can always resubscribe later.)

Yoshi Tatsu debuts Friday, and is also on the Monday Puebla show.

Beyond the matches to finish out the Toluca taping, AAA promising Mesias and Pagano having a skit. So that’ll be fun.

Between CMLL and IWRG, there’s two different tag team tournaments this week.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-02-11 

Mascara de Bronce soars thru space

Recapped: 02/14/2017

What happened: a Faby Apache cost OGT a match. The OGT strangely blamed this on Joe Lider. He and Kahn are the final two Perros del Mal. We found out the Mesias/Pagano feud stemmed from an attack on Dave the Clown and I will not get over this no matter how many times I type it. Dave the Clown!

This is Zorro’s final AAA match (at least for now) after 17 years with the promotion. Zorro knew he was leaving, though maybe not that this was his last match – he’s said he would’ve wanted to work his remaining dates if allowed – but no one else knows. There’s no reference to it during the commentary (which was done live, so they wouldn’t have noticed.) There’s also no attempt to down play or cut him out like the Rebelion guys, with the possible exception of the OGT/Apaches recap cutting out the Xinetez’ involvement.

What was good: The opener was fun. The main event is an interesting Angelico & Australian tag match sandwiched around a long La Parka comedy bit. The other match occurred.

Where can I watch it: It’s on AAA’s channel, and there’s handhelds around if you need all the AAA you can get.

Previously: Dr. Wagner & Psycho Clown agreed to a maks match, again. Aerostar & Super Fly less dramatically got to an apuesta match. Lady Shani won, challenged Taya for a title match, didn’t really get a yes or no but did get beat up. OGT beat the Apaches. (Zorro and the Xinetez’s interference is omitted from this video package.) (more…)

IWRG, blurred referees, borrowed logos, occasional things about lucha libre

IWRG (WED) 02/15/2017 Arena Naucalpan [Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Araña de Plata b Shadow Boy
2) Avisman b Odín
Odin was not listed on the poster
3) Diablo Jr., Douki, Hip Hop Man b Alfa, Black Dragón, Omega
4) Demasiado, Diva Salvaje, Nigma b Leo, Mike, Rafy
Moved down a spot. Exoticos want a trios title shot.
5) Diablo Jr. b Emperador Azteca
Moved up a spot. Diablo Jr. replaced Ak47. Money thrown in.
6) Cerebro Negro, Demonio Infernal, Relámpago b Apolo Estrada Jr., Eterno, Heddi Karaoui
Eterno faked a pin, but Demonio Infernal simply pinned him and got the win. Eterno did seem to have his shoulder up at two.

The Psicosis/Super Crazy vs the Hardys match will air tonight Impact Wrestling, but with an alteration. Marty Elias was referee for the match, Marty Elias is under contract to Lucha Underground, so Lucha Underground sent TNA a legal notice saying they couldn’t use Marty Elias on their TV. This is a repeat of what happened with Hernandez in 2015. This time, TNA decided to air the footage, but blur Marty out. On his podcast, Konnan says Jeremy Borash asked him about which guys were LU guys to not shoot them, but he just blanked about the referee. He says LU sent cease and desists to himself and his partner in the Crash, to TNA and to Anthem.

I watched that match – recap is below – noticed it was Marty and it didn’t even occur to me that LU would have a problem, but of course they did. On that recent MMM show appearance, EVW talked about not being concerned about guys leaving AAA, only being concerned on them being ready for his show and not appearing on another US TV show. Given the timing, he probably had this specific situation in the back of his mind in hindsight. The Crash had a second referee on hand, but seemed to be using Marty for the segments where a bilingual referee would be help – he was there for AR Fox/Flamita, the big angle with the debuts, and the main event. The match airing tonight was four minutes long, probably the second referee could’ve handled it, but I’d bet The Crash was so focused on making sure Fenix, Pentagon, etc. weren’t on TV that they didn’t even think about the referee.

Anyway, maybe someone on AAA or LU’s legal team can also work public relations, since they seem to have an unending supply of money for one and none for the other. They may have more legal work now anyway: the logo for the La Llave de Gloria talent search contest appears to be a color switched version of the logo for Arizona’s Lucha Libre Pro promotion. That logo’s turned up elsewhere – Arena Vidal uses it too – but there’s actually an article by the original artist saying specifically he created the logo for Lucha Libre Pro.

Lucha Libre Pro on the left, AAA’s logo on the right

This may not be something AAA did themselves – Roshfrans or Record could’ve had someone search “lucha libre logo” and done the work – but they’re aware of it now. It’s be bad in normal sequences, but  it’s incredibe for a company also being aggressive protecting it’s copyright. AAA’s argument about the Penta & Fenix names (as best we can surmise, since they’re not talking about it) is the new names/looks Penta & Fenix have come up with are not sufficiently different from the IP AAA created and owned. I don’t know if that’s correct, but I do know they’re on the exact other side of the argument by using this logo. Can’t have it both ways.

A bunch of Lucha Underground people, including Rey Mysterio, Johnny Mundo and Taya, will be at Chicago’s C2E2 expo on April 23rd for a Lucha Underground panel. I believe they announced one of these last years and then canceled it. Both Dorian & EVW will be on the panel, maybe they can discuss Netflix. Maybe it’ll be on Netflix by then. (Not a guarantee. It’ll still be more than a month before they’re on TV.) Maybe I’ll go. I’m not in a LU mood right now, have to think about it later.

Leo Riano’s column claims Vampiro was officially introduced to the AAA wrestlers as a part of the staff on Saturday. Vampiro’s been said to be around AAA for months, and I thought the story was he had recently quit. Maybe they convinced him to come back? Riano’s column is as carrying water for AAA as ever: when he mentions the LU/Netflix story, he’s careful to only name people on the show who are on good terms with AAA. He also says Villano III said, on Riano’s radio show, that he hopes his sons can debut in Arena Mexico at Homenaje a Dos Leyendas.

DTU says they running Arena Aficion on Friday 03/24. There’s a few usual people announced. The poster is Japanese themed and hints at international involvement. The poster also has a +Lucha logo on it, and this would fit as the promotion’s next iPPV.

La Aficion has an interview with Dragon Dorado, the winner of the Octagon talent search contest in Veracruz who wrestled on the Octagon/FULL show a few weeks. He is the luchador who you may remember as Vengador Radioactivo, when he won a similar NOAH talent search (but never made it to NOAH), then returned back to Veracruz. He explains here that he wanted to stay in Mexico City, but the promotion he was working with only offering him 500 pesos a week ($25 USD) and that wasn’t enough for him to stay. His dream was to somehow get back to Mexico City and winning the Octagon reality show did that. Now his goal is to defend the honor of the Octagon name by winning Penta el 0M’s mask. Dream big, I guess. He’d also like to go to WWE.

RobViper has a music video of the 04/27/16 ELITE show.

Diamante Azul wants an apuesta match with Rush, probably is not getting it.


CMLL (TUE) 02/21/2017 Arena México
1) Bengala & Metatrón vs Apocalipsis & Inquisidor
2) Oro Jr., Príncipe Diamante, Starman vs Canelo Casas, Espanto Jr., Hijo del Signo
3) Princesa Sugehit, Sanely, Skadi vs Reyna Isis, Tiffany, Zeuxis
4) Fuego, Rey Cometa, Stigma vs Puma, Sansón, Tiger
5) Máximo Sexy, Mistico, Titán vs Cavernario, Mephisto, Negro Casas
6) Volador Jr. © vs Ephesto [NWA WELTER]
14th defense

Main event is really happening. Volador’s going to win that main event and it’s just another opponent for him to beat, but they could’ve easily done better. Any one of the rudos in the fifth match would be a bigger match and probably better match. Even if CMLL’s felt they’ve over done Volador/Mephisto and Volador/Casas and is saving the next Volador/Cavernario match for another day, they could just go down another match and use any one of the rudos in the fourth match too and have a better match. Tiger would get more out of being in a main event with Volador and losing than Ephesto. If you’re not going to give those guys a shot on a Tuesday show that’s not going to draw big anyway, when are you going to give them a shot?

Fourth match looks a lot of fun anyway.

If Espanto Jr. wrestles, it’d be first match since suffering an injury on a baseball slide in November. He stands a good chance of getting a win with Diamante on the other side.

CMLL (TUE) 02/21/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) El Divino & Gallo vs Évola & Exterminador
2) Eléctrico, Fugaz, Shockercito vs Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Relámpago
3) La Vaquerita, Marcela, Silueta vs Amapola, Dalys, Metálica
4) Dragón Lee, Esfinge, Stuka Jr. vs Bobby Villa, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora
5) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, Valiente vs Pierroth, Rush, Yoshi Tatsu

Yoshi Tatsu arrived last night. They’re not exactly putting Tatsu in a lot of helpful situations. Bobby Villa officially listed under his new name.

Fugaz teams with the minis after getting in the minis title match. In theory, that could be a preview to the eventually title match (and Electrico/Pierrothito would make the most sense.)

BARACAL (SAT) 03/11/2017 Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal
1) Ángel Del Amor & Mr. Leo vs Centvrión & Violencia Jr.
2) ? & Trauma I vs Herodes Jr. & Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
3) Hijo de LA Park & Hijo De Octagon vs Hijo del Fishman & Silver King Jr.
4) Mr. Electro & Silver King vs Dragón Lee & Pierroth
5) Rush vs LA Park

Rush vs LA Park, at the site where Park had some of his crazy brawls with Dr. Wagner. Semimain seems like a waste of Dragon Lee.

G21 (WED) 03/29/2017 Arena Querétaro
1) Adroide & Galáctico Dragón vs Bacter & Hades
2) Ángelus, Destello, Low Rider vs Gremlin, Maremoto Jr., Speed Demon
3) Atómico, Dragón De Oriente I, Dragón De Oriente II vs Juventud Rebelde, Lince, Maremoto
4) Negro Navarro, Trauma I, Trauma II © vs Kastigador, Mr. Electro, Vengador [IWRG IC TRIOS]
fourth defense at time announced
5) LA Park, Rey Fénix (LU), Sharly Rockstar vs Daga, Garza Jr., Penta Zero M

The Rebelion leaving AAA have given LA Park all sorts of new indie opponents.

Negro and Trauma I are feuding in Naucalpan right now, but still trios champs. Trauma II is advertised on this show, and on for the ChilangaMask anniversary show that month. (He might be the mystery guy on the BARACAL show too.) He hasn’t been listed in a match since October.

The Crash: 2017-01-21 

Daga breaks thru

Recapped: 02/21-2/2017

What happened:  Daga, Pentagon Jr., and Garza Jr. all left AAA and to join this promotion and the greater indie landscape. Garza and Fenix were added to the Perros del Mal. All mutually decided to relinquish the Perros del Mal name sometime after the show. The “La Rebelion” name came a week later officially, but this is the beginning of that story.

According to the people involved, those three people didn’t tell anyone (including Pentagon telling the other two) that they were going to jump. That’s hard to believe and certainly people in charge knew some point on this day before the big angle, since that big angle only makes sense if they knew they were changing the main event that Fenix was about to get a tag team partner. Still, it’s also clear many people out there for the big angle were not clued in on what was happening, even while it was happening.

The adjusted main event saw the Lucha Brothers (Penta/Fenix) win a five way match which was announced as for the The Crash’s vacant tag team championship. Super Crazy & Juventud Guerrera protested, and the reward was changed to a title shot at a future show. The tag titles instead were determined in a tag match between Super Crazy & Nicho el Millionario (not Guerrera, for unclear reasons) and the Hardy Boys. The Hardys won the titles. If you are reading this on Thursday February 16th, that final match is airing today on Impact Wrestling in some form.

In other action, Flamita kept The Crash Cruiserweight championship over AR Fox and Arkangel Divino defeated Black Danger to win the The Crash Junior Championship.

(Also, I decided I needed to try to do proper reviews on these. I’m not sure how I’ll manage if it’s an ongoing concern and both Elite and LU are back, but that’s a problem for down the road.)

What was good: Everything on this show was watchable. The bonus Hardys match was just OK as a stand alone match, but it was about giving the fans who came to see them all the Hardy Boys spots in a low impact match, and they delivered. Despite being in Tijuana, this was a crowd very familiar with the Hardys and often reacted more like a US indie show than a Mexican one – most of the reactions were ooh”-ing at big spots, and there were few chants beyond “DELETE!”.

I had stylistic issues with the trios match, but otherwise this had good matches. They could’ve cut down the time a little bit, it did feel a little long, but that shouldn’t be a problem if you’re picking and choosing. AR Fox vs Flamita was the best match on the show and the one you should go out of your way to watch.

My GIFs aren’t much good – I didn’t zoom in enough.

Where can I watch it: All the links are below videosluchas3000 has the show complete from a hard camera. Unfortunately, they’ve put up giant translucent watermarks all over the video. It’s not covering ring as long as the entrance screen is lit up bright, but you can tell it’s there and it’s a little distracting. +LuchaTV has commentary and multiple camera versions of Fox/Flamita, the big angle, and the five way tag match. TKD has handhelds of some of the matches. (more…)