There’s not a lot worthwhile to say about the Alberto situation that won’t be added to or corrected in a few hours. Both MLW and the Wrestling Observer have podcasts out later tonight which will likely add more information about the situation. I’m going to stumble thru a few paragraphs anyway, but I’m making assumption which could quickly said to be wrong.
My best guess is Alberto is working Guerra de Titanes, drop the title, and that’s it. It appears he (unlike Myzteziz) let AAA know ahead of time and he’ll work out the rest of his dates, but previously saying he wanted to take no bookings in December is the indication of when he’ll be working only WWE. (No one’s said when Guerra de Titanes is, but I’m under the impression it’s late November this year, maybe 11/29.) Alberto’s already changed his Twitter profile back to just WWE and there was no mention of AAA on the PPV; any thoughts of some sort of alliance is wishful thinking. AAA is just some indie dates Alberto’s finishing up, as far as they’re concerned. I’m guessing Alberto got an awesome deal as part of returning; beating Cena clean on his first night is a good start.
AAA has to decide what to do with the Megachampionship next. The best case is Texano or Fantasma or Mundo or Cage just beating Alberto, but it may be a situation where Alberto can not or will not lose cleanly and they’ll have to add a third person to get beat. Mundo’s the guy most recently set up to challenge, but he’s not a regular and he’s also a guy it would seem WWE would make a run at. (It’s possible he’s under Lucha Underground contract; those ones seem to still matter.) Myzteziz only lost to Averno, Perro and Rey. Alberto’s lost in non-significant ways to Cage and Texano. Rey hasn’t lost. AAA’s going to boast about having a lot of young promising stars even after the defections of Alberto and Myzteziz; one of them really needs to get a win here.
Lucha Underground says Alberto leaving their group was a mutual decision. There have been reports about Alberto not coming back since pretty much last season ended but, given what happened with Hernandez, there had to be a real release given at some point or WWE wouldn’t have brought Alberto in. (It’s the LU contract that’s important; the AAA ones don’t seem especially binding.) There’s also been occasional reports for weeks/months in the Observer and Steve Sims’ section of the Figure Four that at least one member of the Myzteziz/Alberto/Rey Misterio group weren’t happy with what they were being paid by AAA, as it wasn’t what they were promised.
Elite Lucha Libre
Elite Lucha Libre (SUN) 10/25/2015Arena México [+LuchaTV, MT]
1) Pegasso & Puma (CMLL) b Fly Warrior & Principe Diamante Pegasso worked rudo, and landed on Fly Warrior’s ribs while failing at a 450 splash.
2) Aeroboy, Ángel de Oro, Golden Magic b Kamaitachi, Okumura, Tiger Said to be a very good match
3) Bárbaro Cavernario & Hechicero DQ Heddi Karaoui & Zumbi Zumbi fouled Hechicero.
4) Blue Panther & Negro Casas b Negro Navarro & Solar I Money thrown in. Los Traumas came to the ring to challenge the Panther and the Casas families to matches. It was announced one of those matches would happen on the upcoming show.
5) Máximo, Silver King, Valiente b Bestia 666, Damián 666, Halloween Silver King wore facepaint instead of his mask. Maximo was introduced as Maximo Sexy. Damian fouled Maximo.
6) Carístico & Volador Jr. DQ La Máscara & Rush the original Mistico was listed as Ex-Mistico, announced his new name would be Mistic 2.0 (to wide mockery) and declared his name would now be Caristico. His team took falls 2/3, with Rush fouling Caristico and unmasking him for the DQ. Volador & Carístico showed no tension. Los Ingobernables declared this was their arena now, not Carístico’s.
Show did not draw especially well, a surprise to everyone involved. The estimate is 8,000. That’s more than a normal Friday show gets, but a lineup with this many names and with the first Mistico I match in Arena Mexico in five years should crack 10,000 easy. Both the Dia de Muertos shows last year appeared to outdraw this show and it’s possible this year’s shows will do so as well. The original All Elite shows did better than this attendance. Elite surely was disappointed with the numbers and it seem fair to already wonder how many of the Sundays shows they’re going to be around for if this is night one turnout. Again, 8,000 is much better than CMLL draws, but they’re doing it at much higher than CMLL costs.
Mistic 2.0 announced he was changing his name once again, this time to Caristico, in a post show interview. (It appears he was actually announced as Mistico.) Caristico is a combination of (Sin) Cara and Mistico. It’s a slightly better name than anything with a “2.0” in it. His explanation is he felt there would be too much confusion between Mistico and Mistic 2.0.
It’s kind of silly CMLL is going thru all this work to own the trademark on characters they barely do anything to merchandise. And there’s many better names than Maximo Sexy, a name most people will never actually use. (Like, they’re not great, but couldn’t they just call him “Maximo Alvarado” or “Maximo Brazo”?)
CMLL (SAT) 10/24/2015Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Bengala b El Rebelde
2) Sensei b Akuma
3) Stukita COR Mercurio match ended early when Terror Chino counted Mercurio out as he was coming back in fromt a dive.
4) Súper Halcón Jr. b Cancerbero
5) Delta b Sangre Azteca Virus replaced Sangre Azteca on Monday.
6) La Vaquerita & Marcela b La Comandante & La Seductora
7) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Volador Jr. b Felino, Mr. Niebla, Vangellys Vangellis replaced Negro Casas on Monday. Angel de Oro replaced Titan.
A show. (I’m going to push Arena Coliseo Guadalajara to Monday.)
On Friday, Bryan Alvarez said on Wrestling Observer Live that he heard a rumor Lucha Underground had gotten a lot of funding, enough to easily cover seasons 2 and season 3. Steve Sims, on the line at the time, said he had not heard that. There was also discussion about the benefits/downsides of LU moving away from wrestling and more sci-fi, with the different hosts disagreeing on it. Somewhere in here, Bryan (seemingly joking) suggested an alien character, which caused LuchaUndergroundproducers to mock the idea on Twitter. I don’t think we’re getting aliens.
IWRG (WED) 10/28/2015Arena Naucalpan
1) Bambio, Canario, Fly Tiger vs Gafe, Kabra Kan, Skanda
2) Charly Boy, Guerrero 2000, Vardeus vs Ángel De La Muerte I, Ángel De La Muerte II, Vengador
3) Fireman, Rey Flecha, Shadow Boy vs Acero, Blue Monsther, Macho
4) Atomic Star, Galaxy, Kanon vs Picudo Jr., Troll, Violencia Jr.
5) Alas de Acero, Aramis, Black Drago, Dragón Fly, Fresyer, Hijo del Alebrije, Látigo, Power Bull vs Ángel Dorado, Ángel Dorado Jr., Cruz Del Silencio, Emeprador Sayri, Hades, Obituary, Rene Rocks, Toro Machine [Copa Higher Power] Torneo FILL XLVI; Gym FILL versus Gym SCW.
SCW is a Morelia based promotion. Neither team is listed with a trainer, but that looks like an Eterno team. Cruz del Silencio is a deaf luchador who wrestled briefly with DTU.
AAA started the year with a pretty formidable big four
Rey Mysterio Jr.
Perro Aguayo Jr.
Alberto el Patron.
Perro passed away. Myzteziz is returning to Arena Mexico as I write this. And Alberto del Rio just returned to WWE.
Alberto beat John Cena for the US championship in a match which was planned to be Cena’s last match for a few weeks. Alberto is expected to return full time to WWE, though the details are unknown.
It appears AAA knew about this in advance. There was an MLW podcast announced with Konnan prior to the reveal, and MLW would have the best info about Alberto doing anything. Dorian Roldan sent out a positive message about Alberto and suggested he’d be in both promotions, at least for the moment. My hunch is Alberto is working with AAA for all his announced dates – as Mistic claimed he wanted to do – and losing a title match to someone at Guerra de Titanes. But this is obviously a very strange story.
Alberto’s next scheduled appearance is on 11/02 in Nuevo Laredo, the pushed back TV taping.
CMLL (FRI) 10/23/2015Arena México [CMLL, Estadio Deportes, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Okumura, Sangre Azteca, Súper Comando b The Panther, Tiger, Tritón Tiger replaced Blue Panther Jr. and didn’t get along with his partners. Super Comando beat the Panther by using the ropes and they continue to feud.
2) Blue Panther, Delta, Rey Cometa b Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Sagrado Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Hechicero b Heddi Karaoui [lightning] 7:17. Hechicero submitted Karaoui in a match which derailed near the finish.
4) Dragon Lee, Máximo, Mistico b Ephesto, Kamaitachi, Mephisto Dragon Lee was back wrestling, and beat Kamaitachi for the win.
5) Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Último Guerrero b Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Thunder Terrible & Rey Bucanero replaced Gran Guerrero & Euforia on Monday. Ultimo beat Thunder clean with the Guerrero Special
6) La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush b Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr. Naito showed up with Los Ingobernables and spend the match wandering around ringside. Naito snuck in the ring to foul Volador and set up a Sombra win.
The feed was blocked in the US and probably should be assumed to be any time it’s on ClaroSports going forward. It’s frustrating. The feed died at the end of the fourth match and it took me until the sixth match to get back on.
Naito’s not booked next week or any place else I can still in Mexico. He might be in Mexico City only just to hang out between NJPW appearances and interfere in matches.
The next big show in Arena Mexico is the first one of the relaunched Elite Lucha Libre group. Like everything else, it’s main evented by Volador versus Los Ingobernables, with Volador teaming with old friend/enemy Mistic 2.0. +LuchaTV interviewed Principe Diamante, Fly Warrior and Golden Magic about their appearances on the show.
NJPW announced the schedule for the 2016 FantasticaMania tour
01/22 – 01/24 Korakuen Hall in Tokyo
Kochi replaces Kagawa from last year. They ran one of the three Tokyo shows in Shin-Kiba 1st ring in previous years. Some of the shows will be on NJPWWorld, but it won’t be announced which ones for quite a while.
The list of luchadors on the tour typically comes out the day after the November NJPW major show, so maybe 11/09 this year. They’re teasing the possibility a different CMLL luchador may be loaned out to NJPW for a year, like Mascara Dorada this past year. Given Mascara Dorada hasn’t really done that much, this doesn’t seem like the greatest plan. (Mascara Dorada lost in a first round of a tournament today, as always.)
Guerrero Negro Jr. is doing better after being shot, and told Zocalo Deportes that CMLL invited him to return to the promotion after he recovers. He expects to return to Arena Mexico the second week of January. That’s when many guys will be gone for FantasticaMania, so it’s a little believable CMLL would have spaces to bring people in. I’m not sure I totally believe this story, but it’s something to watch out for.
Cadena3 is indeed still on the air, and their internet feed was still working as of this writing, so tonight’s episode of Tuesday lucha will air as scheduled. That’ll be it, at least for now.
This is a very ordinary card outside the main event, a match they’ve done many times and just two months ago for free on the internet. You’re not trying to hard when Pequeno Unvierso makes an iPPV cut, and you really have to do more than one meaningful match. With the strange and seemingly uncoordinated way CMLL works on things, it feels like maybe the iPPV & TV people were excited to do a big show for Dia del Muertos, but maybe not so much the programming group.
The real selling point is the Dia de Muertos set dressing and costuming, which will look great but might not be enough for people who can just see the one important match for free a few weeks later. (Also, I’d expect a good amount of people confused if they can actually watch it since the previous Friday shows have been blocked.) It is only $6, but the buys are going to well down from last time.
This is actually the bigger card (in the context of the promotion) than the CMLL iPPV, though the Mega/Comandos cage match seems to have disappeared. And I’ll probably skip that title match. Second match is Teelo’s first since July.
Golpeador seems like the favorite to lose his mask, but Rayan’s there too. Astro Rey hasn’t been on these shows in quite a while and you can never rule out a Ninja Turtle. The Traumas, Golden Magic, Canis Lupus, Super Nova and Hijo del Pantera all seem very unlikely to lose their mask.
CMLL’s main event tonight has Los Ingobernables versus Atlantis, Volador and Valiente. CMLL not announcing the Dia de Muetros main event may mean they’re waiting for some angle to set up the main event. The most logical main event is another Sombra/Volador match, so that could come out of that. There are other possibilities. NJPW fans have repeatedly mentioned Naito is not on their current tour; he’s said to both have an ear lobe injury and also not be in Japan at the moment. There’s no sign of Naitro being on any match in Mexico any time soon, but we do know Sombra’s scheduled to be teaming with him next month in Japan. There’s also a small possibility of the first Ultimo Guerrero/Thunder match next week – they meet in the semimain with Terrible, Rey Bucanero, Dragon Rojo and Thunder also involved – but it seems more like they’re saving that for down the line.
The Hechicero/Karaoui feud, pushed strongly on CMLL Informa and in interviews, leads to a lightning match between the two tonight. Dragon Lee and Kamaitachi are scheduled to meet in a trios, but Lee’s missed all his matches this week due to injury and seems unlikely to wrestle tonight. The opener has The Panther, Super Comando and Sangre Azteca repeating from last week, where there seemed to be the seed of an issue involving all three.
CadenaTres officially announced it was shutting down last night. The explanation seems to be a scheduled switch over from analog to digital was going to be pushed back to at least New Year’s Eve (because Televisa wasn’t ready), this meant many people would be unable to see CadenaTres for months, and so the parent company decided to shut the whole thing down. They’re saying they’ll relaunch a network “a little more than a couple months” after the changeover happens, though there’s no guarantee the switchover won’t be pushed back again. They’re still working on setting up their new national network, so they’re not going away and will be a factor at some point down the road. All their live shows are saying their farewells today, though SkyTV is listing Cadena Tres as ending on October 26 instead. Might still be worth checking to see if the channel is still running on Saturday.
Reforma has an interview with Mistic 2.0, but only a little section of it is available for free. In that, Mistic says he believes AAA didn’t offer him a contract because they thought he was stuck in AAA and didn’t have any options elsewhere.
What happened: Daga & Steve Pain cost Angelico & Jack a win, but they sort of also cost Lider & Pentagon the win and there’s some tension inside Perros del Mal. Myzteziz and Rey Mysterio started feuding in main events and I’m sure that’ll end up well. There’s a mystery person stalking La Secta, an angle I had completely forgotten existed when I finally put up this recap.
What was good: Everything! The opener was great (and a surprising Australian Suicide focused match), and the three way tag and the main event were good as well.
Where can I watch it: It’s up on AAA’s YouTube channel.
Cadena3 is listed up there but this may just a memorial. Maybe the show returns in January when the channel returns under a new name. Maybe it gets shifted over to a new network quickly. No one knows and we may not know until someone stumbles onto the show randomly (because it’s not like anyone involved is sure to promote it.)
AAA starts a run of one taping per event episodes (which means the main guys make appear more frequently.) Tomorrow’s taping that was going on while Myzteziz was showing up in Arena Mexico. Beyond the matches, this is the first show after Heroes Inmortales so they might start to announce when/where Guerra de Titanes will be held
The time change only really affects CMLL on Puebla and IWRG on this week; they’ll both start around 11pm Eastern on Monday if you’re in the US. (Also, change your clocks on Sunday.) It’ll also push back Noches de Coliseo, but that airs at a random time as it is.
This is a strangely busy week for Heddi Karoui singles matches, between ClaroSports.com and IWRG.
This week is pretty much all internet shows and AAA, though the Tuesday show had a good minis match too.
I believe this will be the last normal week where I’ll have four recaps still to post. Puebla and the iPPV weren’t recapped live, though I think I might have written or talked about the Anniversary show a bit. I will probably change how I’m doing these if C3 is really done Friday, because it’ll just be AAA that I’m not recapping live.
Monday’s Puebla show started with the ring announcer promoting the items for yesterday’s CMLL Informa, including “todos los detailes” for the Dia de Muertos shows. Apparently, all the details meant the costuming perpetration and not any of the matches. Nothing was announced, not even that it’s on iPPV. Ultimo Guerrero did appear as scheduled, inventing a lawsuit against Thunder and Tony Salazar (as head of security) that’ll never be mentioned by anyone else. Alfredo has a recap of what was talked about. They also interviewed Stukita, Mercurio, Zeuxis, Hechicero and Aguila Solitaria.
Besides not mentioning the Dia de Muertos, Informa did not mention Cuatrero and Sanson were introduced to the press as new members of CMLL. Those are the two (actual) sons of Cien Caras who regularly wrestle in Arena Lagos in Aguascalientes and have appeared in Arena Coliseo Guadalajara occasionally. They were certain to be coming to CMLL at some point, because of their family and their size, and hopefully will be good. They both appeared as part of the tribute to Cien Caras as the 2014 Homenaje a Dos Leyendas. Sanson is Cien Caras’ original name, Cuatrero means “rustler” (in the horse sense.) This Sanson is 19, and his brother Cuatrero is 21, and they’ve both been wrestling since September 2010. They started out training under Universo 2000 and have been training with Ultimo Guerrero and Virus in CMLL. There’s no official start date, just that they’ll be turning up soon.
This week’s Wrestling Observer Newsletter mentions Alberto el Patron has told people he’s taking all of December off to spend time with his family. That sounds like a great parental move, but it also has led people to speculate he’s not coming back to Lucha Underground (which is otherwise noted as more likely not) and maybe might not be taking bookings as part of a move back to WWE. (Again, there’s no mention of an AAA contract.) The WWE stuff is speculation plus talk of his name coming up within WWE, but that might WWE just coming up with ideas to entice him to come back. If Alberto is not working in December and Alberto is on Guerra de Titanes, then Guerra de Titanes is late November this year (or Alberto’s making one exception.)
There’s no update on the CadenaTres situation. The network hasn’t commented on the stories of it’s imminent closure. The frequency won’t be going dark. It’s being handed over to an all news channel owned by the same people (which is already airing, but with lesser availability until now.) The bigger idea is that CadenaTres’ parent company won a contract to put in new TV towers across the country to launch themselves a national network when everything is ready – maybe in January or March or April – with a new name and look. If the lucha show was profitable enough and they wanted to, they could definitely move it over to news channel for now or bringing it back when they relaunch. My thinking is if they wanted to keep the same programming, they wouldn’t be letting everyone go, they’d just be keeping them all around for a few more months and relaunching then. The strange thing is you can find recent interviews with the people who run the parent company stating that CadenaTres was going to be that national network (and challenging TV Azteca and Televisa stations.)
This is now less an issue with CMLL apparently no long on CadenaTres, but Daylight Savings Time starts in Mexico (and much of the world) on Sunday, and not in the US until the week after. I’ll go over this again on the TV preview post, but this means the Dia de Muertos show will not start until 10:30 pm Eastern Time on 10/30. Maybe take a siesta beforehand? This appears to be a live only show too. (Likewise, next week’s Puebla show will not start until 11pm ET.)
+LuchaTV has highlights of Rush versus Herodes Jr. in Arena Chilpanicngo. Herodes Jr. doesn’t seem to be working a completely full schedule, but he’s kept pretty busy since leaving CMLL and is getting matches (like this one) he wouldn’t have if he was still a segunda/tercera guy in CMLL.