AAA on Televisa: 2017-08-12

I don’t even know what to call it

Recapped: 08/13/2017

All matches were taped in Arena Jose Sulaiman, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon on 07/16/2017 


Sexy Star defeated Faby ApacheLa HiedraLady ShaniGoya Kong and Big Mami to win the AAA Reina de Reinas Championship
(5:14, Sexy Star pin La Hiedra, below average, Lucha Libre AAA)

Aerostar, Drago, Raptor defeated Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker  in the AAA World Trios Championship best of 5
Aerostar, Drago, and Raptor lead 2-0
(7:46, Aerostar second rope knee springboard frontcracker Carta Brava, 7:46, good, via 
Lucha Libre AAA)

Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr. vs Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria © for the AAA World Tag Team Championship
(8:33, Cuervo pin Fantasma, ok, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened: 

the table didn’t help

Shorter version: the last time we saw Kevin Kross, he and Mundo were teasing an imminent breakup so Kross could go after Mundo’s title. This time, Kross is eagerly doing all of doing all of Mundo’s dirty work to help out Mundo. The thing that hasn’t changed is Vampiro is still teasing a match against him, is the only guy who can hurt Kross, and that was treated as a bigger deal than any of the matches currently scheduled for TripleMania.

Sexy Star returned and won the Reina de Reinas championship in a six way match. Sexy Star didn’t receive much of a reaction from the crowd, though ringside fans seemed excited when they finally saw her. (A few people asked me if this was the real Sexy Star when she returned, and I suspect some of the fans were wondering the same thing when the music first played and she was wearing a purple hooded robe that hid her identity.) The match itself was short and designed to give all the woman an equal moment. Sexy did not use a move to get the win, instead stealing Faby Apache’s pin as she went for a moonsault (that she was way too far away to actually land; Goya stopped her anyway.) Sexy Star treated the victory like it was the most surprising and emotional moment of her life. The reaction for Sexy Star winning was shockingly small, and there were audible boos in response.

Sexy tried to cut a promo post match, but was interrupted by Kevin Kross. Kross grabbed Sexy, yelled at her about the belt, and clotheslined her (or tried to, Sexy went down too early.) The announcers explained Kross was upset about the woman taking away Taya’s belt, mentioning Taya by name in a way they wouldn’t normally do if she was really no longer working for the company. Kross took out each woman, set up a table, and attempted to give Sexy Star the same chokeslam thru a table he gave Mascara de Bronce previously. Faby Apache made the save with a chair shot, which received more of a reaction than Sexy Star had gotten winning the title. Faby celebrated too soon and ended up taking the chokeslam thru the table instead. Kross left, and Sexy Star melodramatically checked on her long time enemy, shaking her head unconscious head around.

loco Aerostar

Lady Shani was revealed to be Sexy Star’s TripleMania challenger in Noti AAA, mentioned the match she won in Aguascalientes (which won’t air for two or three weeks.) She talked about herself in a long interview, threw a couple barbs at Sexy Star, but didn’t come off strongly like a tecnico or a rudo.

The tecnicos are now up 2-0 in the trios title series. Aerostar dove off the entrance set onto everyone during the match.

Fantasma continues to want to be friends with Texano, despite Texano rejecting him a few times. They worked together in their tag title match. Fantasma had Cuervo set up for the Thrill of the Kill when Kross walked into the ring and punched Fantasma. Kross hit Texano too. Referee Copetes saw all of this and did not call for a DQ. Cuervo looked at Kross, concerned he was next, and covered Fantasma when he felt safe to get the win. (That made two of three matches on this show where the winning person just scooped up a pinfall.)

The post match was a dozen things going on. Texano attacked Fantasma for no real reason. Cuervo & Scoria joined in. Fantasma was about to turn it around when Kross hit him as well, then Kross attacked Texano again. Vampiro walked out, went head to head with Kross, did his jacket pull off bit (revealing a Pagano shirt) and tried to clothesline Kross out, only Kross didn’t get over. Vampiro threw Kross out the other side. Fantasma woke up, hit Texano a couple times, and said he’d beat him at TripleMania.

AAA is selling t-shirts – but only at TripleMania. They’ve done this in past years too.


Shani/Hiedra teamwork

The tag title match was actually going better than the Mascara de Bronce/Hernandez version of the same match, at least until the quite lame finish. It’s also just following that same concept with these same titles. Texano & Fantasma are doing the same Loony Tunes version of a feud AAA just did with Bengala & Australian Suicide, where they break up hard every match but are back to being possibly friends the next time we see them. It didn’t help with the other guys, it probably won’t help with these guys, but AAA can’t stop doing it.

The idea for this trios series is obviously Lucha Underground, and it’s playing out a lot like the Aerostar/Drago series. Every match is good, I’m left wishing they could go a lot longer, and hopefully they will in the final. Poder del Norte seemed like a much more effective team, controlling the match and keeping the pace going. The Aerostar big dive took an uncomfortable long time to set up (AAA’s gone from bad edits to no edits and there has to be a middle ground), but they did show a lot of replays so it came off more important than usual. Aerostar’s in-ring stuff was more impressive and he came off as the big star of his team.

I did not like the idea of AAA bringing back Sexy Star and I didn’t like the idea of her winning the title back on the first night when it would’ve been easy thing to sell a TripleMania match around. I can still enjoy a good match despite the reasoning around it, but this wasn’t any close to a good match. It was a hurried mess, trying to be nice to give everyone a spot but so rushed that nothing really meant anything. There were a lot of reasons the result didn’t get over, but I think one big one is it was so quick and so inconsequential that most people probably though it was just an elimination and not the total end to the match. Sexy Star stealing a pin was a tremendously flat way to end the match. If AAA believes in Sexy Star enough to do all this stuff to accommodate her, they should’ve put her over so much stronger and made her look like a star of the group. Instead, she was outside selling within 30 seconds of her big reveal so Big Mami & Goya Kong could do spots. This came off like something that was imposed on the people in charge of figuring all this stuff out from above, and they half heartedly carried out their orders while obviously being more interested in the stuff they really care about (Kross). This – the match, the title change, even the post match angle – was a whole lot of drama for no particular benefit.

who needs a rope to springboard off of

great match roundup, week of 2017-08-05

poor door

I didn’t rate many matches this week. You missed a lot of OKs, I think. Or you didn’t really miss it. Didn’t get an extra group done in this set but 05/05 Crash was done so late that I probably should’ve been in with these. There will be one in the next group.

The MOTYC list is up. I’ve got an idea for it that may pop up elsewhere.

Recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Jeremiah Crane vs Mil Muertes [Cueto Cup] and in a tournament quarterfinal match Lucha Underground: 2017-08-09 2016-05-15
good Mephisto © vs Stuka Jr. for the CMLL World Welterweight Championship LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 7 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-07 2017-08-07
good Rey Cometa vs Forastero in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 8 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-08 2017-08-08
good Shockercito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pierrothito LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-08-11 2017-08-11
good Blue Panther Jr., Esfinge, The Panther vs Disturbio, Puma, Tiger LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-08-11 2017-08-11
good Diamante Azul vs Rush LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-08-11 2017-08-11

Other matches watched (though perhaps very quickly)

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Dr. Wagner Jr. vs El Mesías AAA Worldwide desde Puebla Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) Dr. Wagner Jr. vs El Mesías (posted by thecubsfan) AAA on Televisa: 2017-08-05 2017-06-30
ok Psycho Clown vs Pagano AAA Worldwide desde Puebla Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) Psycho Clown vs Pagano (posted by thecubsfan) AAA on Televisa: 2017-08-05 2017-06-30
ok Johnny Mundo © vs Texano Jr. for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship AAA Worldwide desde Puebla Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) Johnny Mundo © vs Texano Jr. for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship (posted by thecubsfan) AAA on Televisa: 2017-08-05 2017-06-30
ok PJ Black, Ricky Mandel, Taya vs Mala Suerte, Paul London, Saltador [Aztec Medallion] Lucha Underground: 2017-08-09 2016-05-15
ok Pentagón Dark vs Texano [Cueto Cup] and in a tournament quarterfinal match Lucha Underground: 2017-08-09 2016-05-15
ok Lady Maravilla, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-08-11 2017-08-11
ok Carístico, Soberano Jr., Valiente vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-08-11 2017-08-11
not rated Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja vs Guerrero Espacial & Sombra Diabólika LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 7 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-07 2017-08-07
not rated Black Tiger, Lestat, Robin vs El Malayo, El Perverso, Fuerza Chicana LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 7 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-07 2017-08-07
not rated La Vaquerita & Princesa Sugehit vs La Comandante & Zeuxis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 7 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-07 2017-08-07
not rated Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., The Panther vs Kráneo, Morphosis, Olímpico LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 7 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-07 2017-08-07
not rated Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico vs Diamante Azul, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 7 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-07 2017-08-07
not rated Acero & Aéreo vs Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 8 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-08 2017-08-08
not rated La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs La Seductora, Metálica, Tiffany LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 8 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-08 2017-08-08
not rated Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Ephesto, Felino, Luciferno LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 8 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-08 2017-08-08
not rated Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Titán vs Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 8 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-08 2017-08-08
not rated Mistico, Rush, Valiente vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 8 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-08 2017-08-08
not rated Dragón Lee, Mistico, Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2017-08-11 2017-08-11


CMLL Anniversario press conference on Wednesday, Sugehit keeps title over Zeuxis

Negro Casas and Zacarias

CMLL (MON) 08/14/2017 Arena Puebla [CMLL]
1) Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja b Millenium & París LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 14 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Paris & Millenium took falls 2/3
2) Disturbio & Metálico b Espíritu Maligno & Lestat LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 14 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
rudos took 1/3
3) Princesa Sugehit © b Zeuxis [MEX WOMENLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 14 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Sugehit took falls 2/3. 3rd defense.
4) Kráneo, Morphosis, Olímpico b Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., The Panther LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 14 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3, and only lost the middle fall by excessive violence DQ. The commission interrupted the match in the third fall to demand Morphosis unmask, which he did.
5) Ángel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Niebla Roja DQ Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Sam Adonis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 14 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3, Gran Guerrero fouling Niebla Roja
6) Diamante Azul, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero b Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico [Relevos IncreíblesLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 14 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Diamante Azul’s team won in straight falls, setting up a title match with Marco Corleone next week.

The Sugehit/Zeuxis match seemed fun from what I saw but the rest of the show doesn’t sound like it went well.

Today’s CMLL show is nothing special. Last week’s show set up an Ultimo Guerrero/Mistico feud, which probably will be a singles match next week. They already made it clear it’ll happen and wanted it to happen this week, so they’re just killing time this week. UG should be back from the UK in time to wrestle that match next week. This week, he teams with Cavernario & Negro Casas and Mistico with Rush & Valiente.

Drone versus Puma should be a fun lightning match. Maya, Idol & Cometa face Misterioso, Sagrado and Virus could be good. The opener has Fiero & Retro making a stream, which is the first CMLL YouTube appearance for Retro ever. It’s still not a promising card.

Guadalajara has Diamante Azul vs Euforia. Arena Aficion has a Mexico vs the World match of their own with any foreigner available.

CMLL announced they’d have a press conference on Wednesday to talk about the Anniversario main event. I’m setting my expectations at Diamante Azul/Rush & Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero so it can only turn out better than expecting. On Friday, Zeuxis and Princesa Sugehit were saying they hadn’t heard from CMLL’s Programming department or Paco Alonso if they’re on the Anniversario, which is very believable.

I think Matt Taven & Juice Robinson may be at the press conference as well to promote the Gran Prix, and possibly the crew going to the UK to promote that.

Dr. Wagner says Psycho Clown has more to lose in the mask match, because he’ll disappoint his family, his friends, and his entire promotion.

+Lucha’s podcast talked to Heavy Metal and Extreme Tiger about being possibly part of the Copa TripleMania match. Heavy Metal sounded like he wasn’t interested and wasn’t in it right now but didn’t 100% rule out his mind being changed later. It was harder to make out Tiger’s audio but he didn’t seem like he’d be participating either.

Lucha Memes on 09/03 in Coliseo Coacalo
1) Keira vs Makabre
2) Silueta vs Diosa Quetzal

Powerbomb.TV says Puma King is returning on 10/22 for their FUTURES show, which will also have the final of their tag team tournament.

Villano IV says he’s forming a civil association, Dinastia Imperial, to fight for better conditions. One of the problems with this idea and Octagon’s idea are these are being fronted by people who are at the end of their career and don’t have much leverage to force the changes they’d like to see.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania.

Segunda Caida reviews Blue Panther vs Sam Adonis.


CMLL (MON) 08/21/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Astro, Asturiano, Meyer vs El Perverso, Fuerza Chicana, Joker
2) Arkalis, Astral, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Espanto Jr., Rey Apocalipsis
3) Fuego, Johnny Idol, Stigma vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
4) Juice RobinsonMatt Taven, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Rush
5) Marco Corleone © vs Diamante Azul [CMLL HEAVY]
3rd defense

Not a super promising match.

A title change doesn’t seem out of the question; Azul would’ve been the favorite to win the title had he been around. They could have him win it to build him up if he has a big match in September, or they could have Rush cost him the match for the saem reason.

Robinson & Taven are working Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday and probably Tuesday.

new lucha videos for the weekend of August 11th, 2017

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-08-08
taped 2017-08-06 @ Arena Naucalpan – Mega/YouTube
1) Bombero Infernal, Freelance, Hijo del Alebrije vs Eterno, Kempo Jr., Monaguillo
2) Herodes Jr., Hijo del Pantera, Internacional Pantera vs Emperador Azteca, Golden Magic, Hijo De Dos Caras

CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2017-08-12
taped 2017-08-04 @ Arena México – Mega/YouTube (interviews only)
1) Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr., The Panther vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
2) Blue Panther vs Sam Adonis for the hair

IWRG Zona XXI: 2017-08-12
taped 2017-08-09 @ Arena Naucalpan – Mega/YouTube
1) Lunatic Xtreme & Warrior Jr. vs Kempo Jr. & Monaguillo
2) Chico Che vs Ovett
3) Alas de Acero, Aramis, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal, Diablo Jr., Dinamic Black, Eterno, Golden Magic vs Fly Star, Fly Warrior, Fulgor I, Fulgor II, Glenn Calavera, Jerry Calavera, Mr. Leo, Séptimo Rayo [Copa Higher Power]
4) Emperador Azteca © vs Arez for the IWRG Intercontinental Welterweight Championship
taped 2017-07-23 @ Arena Naucalpan – Mega/YouTube
5) Emperador Azteca vs Hijo del Pantera

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-08-08 

Forastero tope

Recapped: 08/14/2017


Acero & Aéreo beat Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia
(12:40 [5:38, 3:14, 3:48], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

La Vaquerita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit beat La Seductora, Metálica, Tiffany
(9:11 [5:59, 1:02, 2:10], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Rey Cometa beat Forastero in a lightning match
(6:54, huracanrana roll thru, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ephesto, Felino, Luciferno beat Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr.
(11:31 [4:10, 2:35, 4:46], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible beat Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Titán
(13:55 [4:09, 5:09, 4:37], 1/3. n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cavernario, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero beat Mistico, Rush, Valiente  
(9:17 [2:15, 1:48, 5:14], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

this is how Niebla Roja’s year has been going

Último Guerrero feuded with Mistico. UG had Mistico beat after the front superplex, but Rush pulled Tirantes away. Rush simply unmasked Mistico and pinned him anyway. They teased a singles match for next week, which is not happening yet.

Niebla Roja clearly uses the bottom rope to beat Terrible in the second fall of the semimain, though nothing comes of it and it’s probably just a mistake. Luciferno reverse a huracanrana into a Styles Clash for the win the same way in consecutive matches.


slide kick

An easy a Tuesday recommendation as it comes. This wasn’t much deeper than a cool spot move fest but they were really cool. Forastero – and all the NGD – are benefiting a bit from the Nuevo part of their name. They’re fresh, so their sharp moves stand out more than ones seen a hundred times already. I’m not sure if we’ve seen the roll into the sliding one foot kick to face from Forastero before, but I wasn’t expecting it and unexpected wrestling sequences are more interesting to watch. His dives looks cool and he took Cometa’s well. Cometa is getting more charismatic as he gets older; he seems like a guy who’s going to figure out a way to stay entertaining even as his body begins to betray him. The reversal finish here was a nice surprise and I could stand to see these two fight a few more times.

Black Dragon unmasks Gallo Frances, Zeuxis 2nd title match tonight, Alberto

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (SUN) 08/13/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)The Gladiatores]
1) Atomic Star b Fly Tiger
2) Climax & Shaolin b Demonio Infernal & Skanda
3) Bombero Infernal & Bombero Infernal Jr. b Eterno & Lunatic Xtreme
Eterno used the ropes. He and Bombero Infernal continued to fight backstage.
4) Cerebro Negro & Dr. Cerebro b Argos & Dr. Karonte
5) Hijo del Pantera DQ Emperador Azteca
Pantera tricked Azteca into being DQ.
6) Herodes Jr., Internacional Pantera, Máscara Año 2000 Jr. b Dinamic Black, Golden Magic, Hijo De Dos Caras
Mascara pulled Dos’ mask and cradled him for the win.
7) Gallo Frances b Black Dragón [mask]
Gallo Frances was unmasked as Jérôme Motta, 35, 15 years a wrestler from Lyon, France.

Main event looks like the typically dramatic IWRG mask match. Gallo Frances is also known as Jerry Motta & Jerry Snake.

CMLL (SUN) 08/13/2017 Arena México [CMLL, CMLL (highlights)]
1) Artillero & Espanto Jr. b Bengala & Sonic
2) Canelo Casas, Hijo del Signo, Nitro b Astral, Oro Jr., Sensei
3) Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus b Johnny Idol, Pegasso, Stigma
4) Zeuxis b Marcela [CMLL-REINA INTL] Campeonato Internacional CMLL-REINA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) Marcela vs Zeuxis por el campeonato CMLL Reina (posted by TvRegeneracion)
Zeuxis took falls 2/3, the last with the La Roca package piledriver, to win the vacant title. She’s announced as going to Japan in October.
5) Ángel de Oro, Titán, Valiente DQ Cuatrero, Hechicero, Sansón
Sanson fouled and unmasked Angel de Oro
6) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. b Cavernario, Gran Guerrero, Pierroth
Pierroth replaced Shocker (so CMLL had to relent on no father vs son for the night.)

The second video link has a slightly longer version of highlights for the title match.

Zeuxis has her second title match in as many days, tonight in Arena Puebla. She beat Marcela for the vacant CMLL-REINA International championship, and she faces rival Princesa Sugehit tonight for the Mexican Women’s Championship. CMLL usual booking philosophy is they’ve already done the one title change to build up this feud (when Sugehit beat Zeuxis) so they probably won’t do another one at least until after the mask match – but two title wins in two days would be a good story. They’ve have good matches during this feud and this shouldn’t be different.

The main event is another rematch, with Caristico, Marco and Mistico against Diamante Azul, Ultimo Guerrero and Negro Casas. That seems to be setting up Azul vs Marco, possibly for the heavyweight title. Gran Guerrero and Niebla Roja are opposite sides of a trios match once again, this time in the semimain with Angel de Oro, Johnny Idol, Sam Adonis, and Euforia rounding out the match. If you think you haven’t seen Johnny Idol much, you’re correct; his last YouTube appearance was about three weeks ago, and you have to go back to June for an appearance on a non-Tuesday show. Idol hasn’t been on a Friday show since January, though that streak should end soon.

The Panthers & Soberano face the Invasors in another rematch from last week. In the surprise of Morphosis actually showing up last week, I didn’t think about the other thing going on with him: he wrestled the whole match in his mask, which he lost back on Christmas. Morphosis’ only other YouTube match of the year was in June, where he started the match masked but unmasked during it. I guess he “forgot” to do last week. We’ll see what happens this week, or if maybe something else is going on. (Technically, Morphosis is a different character than Histeria, but he gave up wearing the Morphosis outfit years ago and just wrestles in a Histeria one.)

Second match is a rare straight Puebla vs DF match, with Lestat & Espiritu Maligno against Disturbio & Metalico. They usually only run those matches when they’re setting something up, but there’s plenty of other stuff happening on this show. It may just be numbers. The opener is an equally strange match of tecnicos versus tecnicos, with Millenium & Paris facing Centella Roja and his son. The show airs on YouTube at 09pm.

GFW announced that Alberto el Patron has been stripped of their championship. He remains indefinitely suspended. GFW hints at some conditions Alberto has to meet before he’ll be suspended; it stands to reason he’s probably not expected to meet those conditions by their next taping on Thursday if they’re stripping him of the title. I was skeptical of this suspension being anything more than PR, but it looks like they were serious about it.

Last week, the WON mentioned Alberto and The Crash were no longer working together. They hadn’t worked together this year except for Alberto doing a promo on the Mexico City show to set up a match with Carlito that never happened, but perhaps he was in the plans to be used on the 09/02 show with the usual names not around because of BOLA. Alberto still seems to be working with Tinieblas’ FULL promotion (September 17th in Tlaxcala) and MDA. Last month, Alberto told SI that he was defending the GFW title at TripleMania and there was a lineup floating around with Alberto defending against Lashley. Lashley was announced in Copa TripleMania instead, and maybe AAA had been told Alberto wouldn’t be champion by TripleMania in advance.

Imagen Deportes has a video story on Arena Azteca Budokan.

Lucha Underground posted a Rey Mysterio fact sheet.

Hip Hop Man, La Mosca, and El Pibe won the Arena Azteca Budokan trios titles on the Hip Hop Man anniversary show. They beat Yakuza, Kamikaze and Hanaoka, so hopefully that means Hanaoka’s injury in the La Llave a La Gloria tryouts wasn’t so bad.

The Crash’s poster for a show in Toluca (no date) includes Rey Mysterio.


CMLL (SUN) 08/20/2017 Arena México
1) Fantasy & Último Dragóncito vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia
2) Pegasso, Star Jr., Starman vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Hijo del Signo, Sangre Azteca
3) Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
4) Dragón Lee, Juice Robinson, Rush vs Pólvora, Terrible, Vangellys
5) Diamante Azul, Matt Taven, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Mephisto, Negro Casas

CMLL sees Taven as a bigger start than Juice – which makes sense from a Mexican perspective, since this is Taven’s third time in and Juice is new.

Sanson/Angel de Oro rematch, so good chance they’re headed to the title match in a couple weeks.

CMLL (SUN) 08/20/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Amperage & Avispón Negro Jr. vs Destructor & Stress
2) Cosmos & El Yaqui vs Linterna & Relámpago Azul
3) Príncipe Kisho & Terremoto King Jr. vs Gran Kenut & León Blanco
4) Esfinge, Magnum, Neutrón vs Difunto, Pitbull I, Ráfaga
5) Espectrúm vs Guerrero de la Muerte [hair]

My expert analysis is “uh, maybe Guerrero de la Muerte wins, I don’t really know.”

CMLL Puebla: 2017-08-07 


Recapped: 08/10/2017


Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja beat Guerrero Espacial & Sombra Diabólika
(17:38 [7:27, 6:06, 4:05], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Black Tiger, Lestat, Robin beat El Malayo, El Perverso, Fuerza Chicana
(14:05 [5:40, 4:43, 3:42], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

La Comandante & Zeuxis beat La Vaquerita & Princesa Sugehit  
(11:28 [7:22, 4:06], 1/2, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., The Panther  went to a draw against  Kráneo, Morphosis, Olímpico
(14:56 [4:05, 3:15, 7:36], rudos 1/tecnicos 2/DCOR 3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mephisto © beat Stuka Jr. for the CMLL World Welterweight Championship
(12:10, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Mephisto roll counter cradle (3:25)

  2. Stuka huracanrana roll thru (1:08)

  3. Mephisto super devil’s wings (7:37)

Diamante Azul, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero beat Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico in a relevos increíbles match
(11:40 [5:38, 1:29, 4:33], 1/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

Stuka snake style moonsault

Diamante Azul worked rudo, snuck in a foul on Marco Corleone, and grabbed the bottom rope. They’re setting up a title match, but not quite yet.

Tirantes got taken out about five minutes into third fall of the title match. Mephsito immediately lands the Devil’s Wings for the certain three count, but Tirantes doesn’t recover quickly enough to count. Mephisto yells at Tirantes, then turns around into a fireman’s drop from Stuka. Stuka lands the torpedo splash but Mephisto kicks out at two. Stuka’s next move is to set up Mephisto on top, but Mephisto stops Stuka as he climbs up and drops him with a super Devil’s Wings for the win.

The rudas won in straight falls without a problem, setting up a Sugehit/Zeuxis title match for next week.

Psicosis/Ripper said Morphosis would be coming with him to TripleMania, but he’s still appearing in CMLL as usual for now. Everyone was too busy brawling outside after a second set of tecnico dives, causing the third fall countout. It’s the second draw in four weeks on this show.


The title match was a basic title match done well. The fake out ref bump things was clever, but the match itself was them going thru a lot of their normal trios spots and adding nothing much extra or different for a singles match. They’re effective in what they do, but not especially creative outside of playing off that cliched ending. That’s really Mephisto & Stuka’s style, and in was unsurprising how predicable the match turned out to be.

Zeuxis new REINA champ, DTU w/Freelance/GALLI

CMLL (SAT) 08/12/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico b Fantasy & Último Dragóncito
2) El Coyote, Metálico, Sangre Azteca b Fiero, Oro Jr., Star Jr.
Coyote replaced Arkangel
3) Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus b Drone, Fuego, Pegasso
4) Guerrero Maya Jr. b Sagrado [lightning]
5) Johnny Idol, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. b Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys
6) Carístico, Dragón Lee, Marco Corleone b Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible

A show. The Tuesday Guadalajara results also got posted on Saturday, and they were also just a normal show. Euforia unmasked Diamante Azul in the main event to set up their title match.

Tonight in Guadalajara, Espectrum and Guerrero de la Muerte set up a hair match for next week.

CMLL hasn’t posted results from tonight’s Arena Mexico show as of the time I’m writing this, but they upload highlights of Zeuxis defeating Marcela for the vacant REINA International Championship. She’ll be going to that promotion in October.

In IWRG, Black Dragon unmasked Gallo Frances as expected. Gallo Frances was unmasked as Jerome Motta, 35, 15 years a wrestler from Lyon, France. I couldn’t find any more info on him via cagematch or wrestlingdata, so I guess he must normally wrestle under another name.

Chicago promotions Freelance & GALLI announced they’ll be working with DTU later this year. Freelance says Matt Knicks, Stevie Fierce, and Isaias Velazquez are headed to Mexico in November. GALLI says DTU luchadors will also be coming there and Freelance that month.

This seems similar to the deal DTU has with GCW, which has now led to some DTU shows turning up on SmartMarkVideo. They’re selling the complete June Pachuca & Queretaro shows as one download, and the July Guadalajara & San Luis Potosi in another. Each are $12. These are the only full DTU shows to be released this year – so, while you might not know the Freelance guys (they’re all solid from what I’ve seen), maybe they’ll record shows again when they come in November, or the GCW guys will in September. It shouldn’t really take a US promotion coming to Mexico to bring a camera to these shows to be taped and made available in full, and it’s another instance of Mexican indie promotions being staggeringly behind the rest of the world, but beggers can’t be choosers. These deals are good news for fans of DTU.

Indy Nation say they’ll be returning to IWRG on August 30th.

Mary Apache won the High Speed Championship in Stardom on 08/13.  She celebrated with her children.

Generacion 21’s show on 09/11 has a typically loaded card, and the odd team of Marco Corleone, Sam Adonis and AAA’s Hernandez. Hernandez seems to have a deal with AAA where he’s allowed to work wherever when he’s not on TV.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.


CMLL (SAT) 08/19/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Sangre Imperial & Sonic vs Grako & Yago
2) Flyer, Príncipe Diamante, Sensei vs Akuma, Artillero, Espanto Jr.
3) Eléctrico, Shockercito, Stukita vs Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pierrothito
4) Rey Cometa vs Virus [lightning]
5) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
6) Juice Robinson, Marco Corleone, Matt Taven vs Hechicero, Pierroth, Shocker

Pierroth and Shocker are heavyweights and Shocker speaks English so CMLL thinks they’re swell opponents for Robinson and Taven. This is not a savvy judgement call.

IWRG (SUN) 08/20/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Climax vs Lunatic Xtreme
2) Látigo & Shaolin vs Harry The Sick & Taylor Wolf
3) Hijo del Alebrije vs Villano III Jr.ImposibleDanny CasasVillano V Jr.Diablo Jr.Hijo del PanteraHijo De Dos CarasEternoRelámpagoDinamic BlackDragón FlyCerebro NegroAramisTrauma IGolden MagicPantera IAceroTrauma IIInternacional PanteraGallo FrancesAlas de AceroWarrior Jr.Bombero InfernalEmperador AztecaVenenoMáscara Año 2000 Jr.FreelanceEl Hijo del DiabloHerodes Jr. [Gran Cruzada]

This 30 man battle royal gives someone a title shot in their weight division for winning. It could be anyone, but it’s IWRG, so it’s probably a big guy.

La Llave a La Gloria semifinal, CMLL continues towards Anniversario, Canada preferred LU country


CMLL (FRI) 08/11/2017 Arena México [CMLL, Culticonthecubsfan]
1) Mercurio & Pierrothito b Shockercito & Stukita LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:44. rudos took 1/3.
2) Blue Panther Jr., Esfinge, The Panther b Disturbio, Puma, Tiger LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:59. tecnicos took 1/3
3) Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis b Lady Maravilla, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:36. Rudas took 2/3. Zeuxis pulled Sugehit’s mask to win, and they agreed to a mask match.
4) Cavernario, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis b Carístico, Soberano Jr., Valiente LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:11. Rudos took 2/3 after Adonis hit Caristico with the flagpole from outside. Cavernario argued with Adonis over the flag and Adonis attacked him, which eventually led to everyone beating up Adonis.
10:56. Azul took 2/3. Rush was DQed for smashing a piece of plasterboard over Diamante Azul’s head. Azul pinned him clean in the third.
6) Dragón Lee, Mistico, Niebla Roja b Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 11 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
10:45. Straight falls, Gran DQed for unmasking Niebla Roja. They agreed to a mask match after.

CMLL continued on to it’s apuesta matches matches. They’re very clear that Gran Guerrero/Niebla Roja is happening on 09/16, and what else happens still doesn’t seem to be clear. Even as sure as Roja/GG is as happening, they’re not bringing up it being the main event, just on the show.

Azul/Rush seemed like a test to see if it would work on the Anniversary show rather than specifically building towards it. They were working like something important was on the line, and not like it was a Tuesday show they couldn’t get done quickly enough. It looks like the 09/16 possibilities are Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero in the main and Zeuxis & Sugehit in the fourth match, or Diamante Azul/Rush in the main and Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero in the fourth. I think the first possibility are better matches but the fans are likely to be more accepting of the second one.

The Adonis thing was probably to set up a united Mexico versus the World leading into the Gran Prix next week.

AAA held the semifinals of it’s La Llave a la Gloria tournament today. They held twelve matches, and all of them are watchable on their Facebook page. On his Facebook page, Vampiro said there were 72 people trying out. I haven’t gone back and counted, but that seems about right – and means that a couple dozen people got in outside of tryouts.

AAA says the winners will be announced on Wednesday in Record. We still don’t know what the winners exactly will be. AAA announced various things at the press conference, mostly pointing towards either one winner or one winner in each category, but they do need opponents to face. My guess is it’ll be actually six winners (two men, two women and two men as minis) for a trios match, but no one knows.

Roshfrans posted a La Llave a la Gloria recap video on YouTube. It’s nice, but it has a whole 19 views and I think at least 3 of them are mine.

TLN in Canada is now ahead of El Rey on airing Lucha Underground episodes. TLN had been airing up to 3 episodes a night of Season 3, since starting the season in May. Apparently, El Rey/LU must’ve sent them the full 40 episodes, because they’re airing the episodes before El Rey gets them on air. That’s usually not permitted in these sort of international syndication deals, and this is probably a simple goof up, but LU simple goof ups have a way of not getting fixed. I’ve looked around and haven’t seen the episodes which aired last night – the semifinals and finals of the Cueto Cup – probably because not many people thought to look for them to be airing. I suspect later episodes will turn up TLN continues airing in advance.

Lucha Underground did post a video of Marty Elias explaining the rules, which are helpful to know 90 episodes into a wrestling series

This is a quiet weekend of lucha shows



Kcids draws Gran Guerrero vs Niebla Roja.


CMLL (FRI) 08/18/2017 Arena México
1) Astral & Robin vs Cholo & Espíritu Negro
2) Esfinge, Fuego, Stigma vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Universo 2000 Jr.
3) Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs La Metálica, Tiffany, Zeuxis
4) Stuka Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr. [lightning]
5) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. vs Ephesto, Gran Guerrero, Mephisto
6) Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Juice Robinson, Marco CorleoneMatt Taven

Main event is listed as tecnicos vs tecnicos. Taven was a tecnico last time we saw, but it’s also more of a Mexico vs the World thing. Juice is probably so beat up by NJPW’s G1 that he may be on vacation mode here.

The other feuds continues on in the 5th and 3rd matches. Cholo’s still around after losing his hair.

CMLL on 2017-08-11 

if the tope doesn’t get Rush angry, the drink definitely will

Recapped: 08/11/2017


Mercurio & Pierrothito beat Shockercito & Stukita
(13:44 [4:54, 3:41, 5:09], 1/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

Blue Panther Jr., Esfinge, The Panther beatDisturbio, Puma, Tiger
(13:59 [4:05, 3:35, 6:19], 1/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis beat Lady Maravilla, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta
(13:36 [5:39, 2:27, 5:30], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

Cavernario, Negro Casas, Sam Adonis beat Carístico, Soberano Jr., Valiente
(15:11 [7:04, 3:14, 4:53], 1/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

Diamante Azul beat  Rush
(10:56, Arena México, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Rush corner dropkick (1:52)
  2. DQ Rush plasterboard (2:58)
  3. Diamante Azul German suplex (6:06)

Dragón Lee, Mistico, Niebla Roja beat Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero
(10:45, 1/2 DQ, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

What happened: 

this was insane

Niebla Roja and Gran Guerrero feuded heavily during their match, with Gran Guerrero unmasking Niebla Roja for the straight fall loss. Gran Guerrero and Niebla Roja agreed to sign contracts for a mask match next week before Gran Guerrero unmasked Niebla Roja again.

Princesa Sugehit & Zeuxis also agreed on a mask match, though they set no date. Zeuxis picked up the win this week with a mask pull, after both earlier so destroyed each other’s masks that they had to take an unofficial time out to fix them.

Sam Adonis hit Carístico with his flagpole to set up a Cavernario win in the fourth match. Cavernario didn’t seem happen with Adonis and threw down the USA flag post match. Adonis attacked Cavernario, Negro Casas attacked Adonis and got the flag pole and everyone ended up stomping down Adonis. This was possibly a Carístico/Adonis tease for Japan, since both they and Diamante will be in AJPW by this time next week.

Rush was pinned cleanly by Diamante Azul – well, he was yelling at Edgar and didn’t see Azul coming to grab him for a German suplex, that’s close enough. No challenges were made after the match, though Rush suggested the possible of an Anniversary match on commentary.

Juice Robinson and Matt Taven were announced as appearing next week.


when you have one thing that’s working, just keep running with it until someone stops you

An overall good show. I had couple matches rated OK, but the show in it’s enterity was enjoyable and went by well. It was better than it looked as a lineup.

The main event was the most effective Niebla Roja and Gran Guerrero have been so far. They went after each other hard and Niebla Roja showed more fire (by doing not much more than one move he does well many times.) They were handicapped a little bit doing a bit of crowd brawling after Diamante Azul & Rush did a lot of crowd brawling. The bigger problem is it comes off as the third most important técnico feuding with maybe the third important rudo in every one of these matches. Niebla Roja & Gran Guerrero work work as a main event of a lesser show or a lesser match on a main show, but there’s not enough here to make it a main event of the Anniversary show and everyone knows it. They’ve got four more Fridays to find it, but it doesn’t feel like it’s happening.

Diamante Azul versus Rush probably does have enough to be the main event of an Anniversary show, and they were working like this singles match was an audition for this spot. It still wasn’t great, but it was much better than what they’ve delivered before in a watered down version of Rush’s matches with LA Park. It’s weird the much older and much heavier LA Park has a bigger tank than Diamante Azul, and Rush here didn’t put exactly the same effort, but it was better than usual. There wasn’t enough here for me to want to see that match on the big stage but CMLL hasn’t left themselves with a lot of options.

I expect this to happen to me every time I go to Mexico

Something with Adonis seems like the only other option, and the post match set up all sorts of interesting possibilities. The trip to Japan is ill timed to work any of them out, and it seems like it’d be almost too late to do anything by the time he and Carisitco are back, but I guess we’ll see if anything settled by then. The match itself was the weakest of the night for me, btu the post match made it worthwhile.

Zeuxis/Princesa Sugehit is definitely happening and yet still seems unclear. JCR teased it for the Anniversary show and it may be, but not giving a date is another thing that suggests CMLL still didn’t have their plans locked in before tonight. They actually seem to be taking less of the matches as it goes on, but the mask ripping came off serious. Maravilla wrestles impressively, but is clearly meant to be the least important woman on any tecnica trio right now and we may have a long wait before we see her in anything beyond those trios. She’s ready now. Silueta had an iffy night, with things derailing badly at the end of the second. Dalys was all over the place in this match.

The Panthers and the Casas brothers continue to have good matches with whoever they’re teaming with. This wasn’t quite their peak, but it was pretty good. Puma & Tiger have teamed up with Disturbio enough that they’ve adapted their own finishing sequence to work in his double knee smash. Esfinge seemed to disappear on me for long periods of time but looked sharp in the third fall. Blue Panther Jr.’s backbreakers land awfully to me, but he might as well keep doing as long as the multiple ones get a strong reaction.

The minis match was a higher end match for both minis and the opener; the Shockercito monkey flip into a huracanrara was more exciting in 10 seconds than most of these matches are in 15. Mercurio even did a new taunt (even if it was the same Dragon Ball fireball bit people have been doing for a decade.) this warmed up the show well.

Gran getting him up was as impressive as throwing Niebla Roja hard