Drago & Fantasma on Impact’s Slammiversary, CMLL Puebla preview

AAA to Impact

IWRG (SUN) 06/25/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Tentáculo b Power Bull
debut of Tentaculo
2) Atomic Star & Lunatic Xtreme b Climax Jr. & Shaolin
3) Alas de Acero & Aramis b Metaleón & Picudo Jr.
Picudo Jr. replaced Demonio Infernal
4) Dinamic Black, Gallo Frances, Pantera del Japon DQ Eterno, Látigo, Tyson La Bestia
straight falls. Latigo replaced Cerebro Negro.
5) Heddi Karaoui, Trauma II, Villano III Jr. b Emperador Azteca, Hijo del Pantera, Pantera I
Hijo turned on his partners for screwing up and mask challenges followed.
6) Cerebro Negro, Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Trauma I DQ Hijo De Dos Caras, Imposible, Veneno
Dos hit Mascara with a chain. Cerebro Negro replaced Black Warrior.
7) Black Warrior, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Pirata Morgan b Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro [hair]
3 v 3 hair match. Black Warrior replaced Pirata Morgan Jr. Piratas took 1/3. Hijo pined Ak-47 for the deciding pin.

Getting Black Warrior as a sub seems totally unfair. Black Warrior subbing for someone who no showed is also kind of unusual.

Tonight’s CMLL Puebla show is highlighted by Dragon Lee versus Negro Casas. It feels like they’ve had good matches in the past, but really it’s just been the Leyenda de Plata final from 2015. They’ve matched up a couple times in Guadalajara, but this is the first time we’ll get to see them. The lightning match might be the better format for them, it’ll allow them go at a fast pace and not worry about fall breaks.

The actual main event has Ultimo Guerrero as the third Ingobernable for a night, facing Terrible, Rey Bucanero and Niebla Roja. The fourth match is Drone, Johnny Idol, and Stuka Jr. versus the Felino family; it’s probably going to be the second best match. Ares & Espiritu Maligno, who slightly started feuding with each other last week, continue to be on these shows in trios matches. Arkangel, Canelo, Fuego & Pegasso will be around them. There’s a tag team women’s match with Dalys & Amapola against Sanely & Estrellita; it’s a rematch from last week where the rudas were DQed, so there’s probably a title match coming out of it. Dalys defending against Estrellita fits. Local favorites Asutriano & Vega take on Perverso & Joker in what could be a good match if they had no handicuffs. The show will stream at 9pm CT on CMLL’s YouTube channel like normal.

Drago & Hijo del Fantasma will represent AAA in an international four way tag title match with LAX. The Impact storyline is LAX has been going to other promotions to create havoc so now they’ve got other promotions coming there. The real life story is what the heck.

Back at the TripleMania press conference in April, Impact and AAA (Dorian Roldan) announced there’d be wrestlers going back and forth between the companies. This immediately seemed to be an issue, since Lucha Underground wrestlers were said specifically not permitted by their contracts to appear on any one else’s television. This was something specifically enforced on an Impact show where a referee was blurred because he was on LU contract. After AAA made this announcement, both Vamprio and Eric Van Wagenen said Lucha Underground luchadors would not be appearing on Impact due to that contract. You can thread a needle to make everyone correct: technically, they’re right now only scheduled to appear on a PPV and not the TV show, and perhaps there’s different rules for that. Penta, Fenix, Drago and others have appeared on (relatively small) streaming services since being on Lucha Underground without LU appearing to raise a contract issue, maybe this is being seen as the same thing.

It’s still weird for the LU people to be so definitive about these guys not appearing elsewhere and then it to mostly just happen. It comes off as if they were being creative with the truth or overruled. Dorian Roldan, in position of being in charge of Lucha Underground live events, maybe just decided this was a live event worth pursuing. In the end, they only thing the LU side seems to have gotten so far was AAA not to putting the two people who are feuding on LU together in Impact – Aerostar was the original rumor, Fantamsa is in his place. Both Impact & AAA’s press releases on this match avoid mentioning Lucha Underground by name, even though that’s the place where most American fans would know Drago from and Fantasma being included would be a bigger deal if they said he was King Cuerno.

Just to be clear, I have no problem with AAA wrestlers on Impact. If AAA still plans on doing a TripleMania US PPV, getting some courtesy mentions on another PPV could be a help. I don’t expect many people to be buying an Impact PPV but people who buy an Impact PPV are probably more open to buying just about any wrestling PPV if they’re made aware of it. (So, it’d be a really good idea if AAA was sure of it’s TripleMania date and plans by this Sunday so those could be correctly promoted, and if there was English language information some place handy so curious people could find it. The press release keeps the August 26 date.) But I generally don’t see a problem with LU being allowed to be anywhere on TV that might help promote the show – there’s no real LU advantage to having the referee blurred or Ricochet being kept off the NJPW shows this weekend in LA – and those haven’t been allowed. The exception here seems to be solely to help AAA and not really anyone else.

The press release says it’s a four promotional match, with LAX, Drago/Fantasma and two other teams to be mentioned. NOAH’s probably the third team, since they’ve both got a relationship there. Both NOAH & Impact say they have a relationship with the Crash. It would seem to be political impossible to get The Crash & AAA guys in the same match, but Impact is already doing the impossible (and Mexican promotions historically have gone the extra mile just to be associated with Impact) so I can’t rule it out. LAX is headed to Puerto Rico’s WWL soon, and probably that’s the better answer. The press release also mentions AAA wrestlers will be on the November Impact show as well.

 

Lucha Underground has an eBay store now. That seems random, but I’d guess it was just what they could get done.

AAA posted last week’s Zona Ruda, which included a Brazo de Plata appearance as part of a father & son (& son) segment.

weekend results, rare Santo singles match

photo by Black Terry Jr.

ANCLA WWCI (SAT) 06/24/2017 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), Carxyus]
1) Black Fury & Diosa Quetzal b Bastet & Hahastary
2) Thunder Stroom b Black Warrior Jr.
3) Drako b Danger, Lokillus, Yoruba, Toxin, Belial, Guerrero Mixtico, Kronoz
4) Astrolux & Black Metal b Fly Warrior & Látigo Latigo y Fly Warrior vs Astrolux y Black Metal | 24-06-17 (posted by TVLuchaMundial)
Fly Warrior replaced Centvrion (injury)
5) Demus 3:16 b Black Terry Demus vs Black Terry | 24-06-17 (posted by TVLuchaMundial)
6) Hijo de LA Park, LA Park, Terremoto DQ Ancla, Arez, La Máscara L.A. Park vs La Máscara en la Arena San Juan Pantitlan (posted by TVLuchaMundial)
Maximo tried to help La Mascara win, but the ref called the DQ.

In a post match bit, Maximo warned the fans that they should be careful about their cars, then mocked them for not having enough money to afford cards. They are so casual about this.  Show didn’t seem to do especially well given LA Park on top, but it was about what CaraLucha shows used to be doing.

LLB NOBA (SAT) 06/24/2017 Arena Lopez Mateos [+LuchaTV, R de Rudo]
1) Avantar, Channer, Optimus b Fandango, Licántropo, Lunatik Extreme
2) Cazador, Demonio Chino, Enigma b Keiser Drago, Kilvan, Shadow
Keiser Dragon replaced Yoruba
3) Carta Brava Jr. (IWL), Cerebro Negro, Fantasma de la Ópera b Ángel o Demonio, Fresero Jr., Herodes Jr.
4) Fly Star, Fly Warrior, Glen Calavera, Látigo, Metaleón, Séptimo Rayo, Yoruba b Aspirantito, Atomik Star, Eterno, Freelance, Limbo, Toxin, Tromba
LLB vs Indy Nation (with some subs; Centvrion was there but unable to wrestle due to injury.) Fly Warrior nearly won his second match in under two hours, having pinned Eterno for the win, but the ref missed and Eterno went onto win.
5) Hijo de LA Park & Mr. Águila b Emperador Azteca & Golden Magic
6) Dr. Wagner Jr. b LA Park [super libre]
so many fouls and Wagner sneaking in a casita

A bunch of people working twice Saturday night. A promotion that says they’re not going to do any foul finishes would have a big advantage over everyone else (but a lot of people who they couldn’t use, I suppose.)

CMLL (SAT) 06/24/2017 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Grako & Yago b Fiero & Sonic
debut of Sonic
2) Espanto Jr., Metálico, Nitro b Bengala, Leono, Príncipe Diamante
Leono suffered a knee injury. Rudos took 1/3.
3) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón b Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther
Rudos took 1/3
4) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. b Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
5) Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto b Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr.
Mephisto pulled off Azul’s mask to set up the win.

A show.

CMLL (SUN) 06/25/2017 Arena México
1) Artillero & Templario b Magia Blanca & Sangre Imperial
2) Raziel, Sagrado, Virus b Astral, Star Jr., Stigma
Rudos took 1/3. Raziel replaced Misterioso (moved up) on Monday
3) Dragón Rojo Jr., Misterioso Jr., Pólvora b Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr.
Misterioso replaced Morphosis on Monday. Rudos took 2/3. Misterioso took Drone’s mask this time.
4) Diamante Azul, Titán, Valiente DQ Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush [Relevos Increíbles]
tencicos took 1/3, Rush unmasking Azul for the DQ (two straight days where Azul’s unmasked)
5) Euforia, Shocker, Último Guerrero DQ Carístico, Mistico, Niebla Roja
UG unmasked Niebla Roja again. Roja wants a mask/hair match.

They were teasing that apuesta match more heavily here, but it’s hard to see where it fits in. The fans wouldn’t seem to accept Niebla Roja defeating Ultimo Guerrero or see UG beating Niebla Roja as a big deal. Niebla Roja/Gran Guerrero (in a title match) seems like a more likely outcome

Hijo del Santo defeated El Bandido in the final of the Lucha Libre World/Todo x el Todo tour on Saturday. It was streamed on Facebook live (and plays better on demand – no buffering.) As far as I can tell, it’s Santo’s first singles match in 3.5 years. You could tell, he looked rusty and it felt like Bandido was mostly chosen as a guy who’d be easy for Santo to move around.

Rush talking about wanting only to face LA Park in an apuesta match is nothing new at this point but, out of context, it’s so weird one of the top luchadors in CMLL is repeatedly building up a match with someone who appears to be banned from wrestling in the promotion.

Ultimo Guerrero & Terrible won their match on the ROH PPV Friday. They both competed on the TV taping on Saturday. UG’s match with Matt Taven aired on the first week of TV and gave the indication there’s more to come with those two. Terrible was an extra guy in a six way match on week three, I believe.

This week’s AAA TV is up.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

An interview with Fuego Latino from Ciudad Madero.

Lineups

IWRG (WED) 06/28/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Voltar vs Guerrero 2000
2) Fly Tiger & Keiser Drago vs Adrenalina & Power Bull
3) Ángel Oriental, Seiya, Verdeus vs Atomic Star, Lunatic Xtreme, Skanda
4) Guerrera & Luna Mágica vs Cristal & Lady Sensación
5) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly vs Diablo Jr., El Hijo del Diablo, Imposible
6) Emperador Azteca, Internacional Pantera, Pantera del Japon vs Cerebro Negro, Dragón Yuki, Ovett

Main event has visiting Japanese luchador versus visiting Japanese luchador. Mariachi Locos team up for the first time in a final. Luna Magica is still wrestling.

CMLL (SAT) 07/01/2017 Arena Coliseo
1) Fiero & Retro vs Apocalipsis & Espíritu Negro
2) Estrellita, La Jarochita, La Vaquerita vs La Comandante, La Seductora, Zeuxis
3) El Gallito & Microman vs Mije & Perico Zakarías
4) Drone, Fuego, The Panther vs Cancerbero, Cuatrero, Universo 2000 Jr.
5) Johnny Idol, Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr. vs Hechicero, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado
6) Carístico, Diamante Azul, Niebla Roja vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

Minis make another Saturday appearance, booked higher than the women. No carry over from the Diamante Azul/Mephisto bit from this weekend.

CMLL (SUN) 07/02/2017 Arena México
1) Magia Blanca & Príncipe Diamante vs El Coyote & Grako
2) Fantasy, Shockercito, Stukita vs Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
3) Marco Corleone, Rey Cometa, Valiente vs Cavernario, Ephesto, Kráneo
4) Diamante Azul vs Rush
5) Carístico, Mistico, Niebla Roja vs Euforia, Shocker, Último Guerrero

Hooray for doing the Diamante Azul/Rush match on a non streamed Sunday show.

CMLL (SUN) 07/02/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Capitán Cobra vs Quca
2) El Yaqui & Javier Cruz Jr. vs Gitano & Mr. Apolo
3) El Alteño & Johnny Dinamo vs Demonio Rojo & Évola
4) El Divino, Mágico, Neutrón vs Guerrero de la Muerte, Nautilius, Ráfaga
5) Sky Kid & Smaker vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno and Explosivo & Star Black and Frezzer & Furia Roja [OCCIDENTE TAG, semifinal]

Gallo & Esfinge were tag team champions. Gallo hasn’t been in this building since February and this seems to indicate he’s not coming back this time.

LLB NOBA (WED) 07/12/2017 Arena Naucalpan
1) Fly Star vs Toxin Boy, Tromba
2) Atomic Star, Chico Che, Hijo del Alebrije vs Fandango, Shadow, Yoruba
3) Fantasma de la Ópera vs Fresero Jr., Ángel o Demonio, Cerebro Negro, Ovett, Herodes, Carta Brava Jr. (IWRG)
4) Arez, Aspirantito, Belial, Freelance, Suicida vs Baxter, Emperador Azteca, Eterno, Golden Magic, Imposible
LLB vs IWRG
5) Garza Jr. & Zorro vs Pirata Morgan & Sharlie Rockstar
6) Daga & Penta 0M vs ? & LA Park and La Máscara & Máximo

After a week of not getting IWRG lineups until the day before the show, they’ve now got three Naucalpan shows announced: the Wednesday one up there, the Festival de Mascaras next Sunday, and this one in a couple weeks. Garza Jr. is still listed as a Rebelion member but it appears he’s not one.

Vangellys outcheats Pierroth, Nicho loses hair match, Universal tournament rerturns

Diamante Azul wins

CMLL (FRI) 06/23/2017 Arena México [CMLL, ESTO, Marca, Ovaciones]
1) Arkángel de la Muerte & Disturbio b Flyer & Robin
2) Eléctrico, Shockercito, Stukita b Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Violencia 2017-06-23 CMLL (posted by thecubsfan)
3) Estrellita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit DQ Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis 2017-06-23 CMLL (posted by thecubsfan) LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Zeuxis was DQed this time for unmasking Sugehit.
4) Vangellys b Pierroth [lightning] 2017-06-23 CMLL (posted by thecubsfan) LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Vangellys used the ropes to get the win. Pierroth and Vangellys agreed to a hair match. Rush & Pierroth attacked Vangellys.
5) Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja b Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero 2017-06-23 CMLL (posted by thecubsfan) LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Gran Guerrero & Niebla Roja feuded.
6) Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. b Cavernario, Euforia, Rush [Relevos Increíbles] 2017-06-23 CMLL (posted by thecubsfan) LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE JUNIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Diamante Azul beat Rush

I’ve seen none of this show yet, but it doesn’t sound like it was any better than it seemed on paper. The three feuds prior to the show kept on, but only Vangellys & Pierroth got to verbalize challenges. That’s how CMLL says that’s the one happening soon.

Claro had problems with their feed once again, not getting it running until the second match was going. It looks like it was probably something on the Arena Mexico side this time, since CMLL’s own recording doesn’t pick up until the third match. Still, this only happens on Fridays and never an acknowledgement something was wrong until they’ve got it working again.

Next week’s opener is much better than usual, so I hope they finally get it working. Since the problem always seems with the start of the feed, it’d be smart if they just started it earlier to get it working. Put a countdown timer up there or a logo like NJPW does, but they could at least use it to sort out whatever’s wrong that night.

Post show, Rush said the only mask he’s looking for is LA Park’s. CMLL books Diamante Azuls strong when he’s around, he’s not around much, and Rush/Azul still feels like a backup Anniversario plan if they’ve got nothing better (and if Azul sticks around long enough.)

The Crash (FRI) 06/23/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California [@jorgegccr, 126f, R de Rudo, The Crash]
1) Oraculo b Black Danger
mask match challenges continue with these two.
2) Rey Horus © b Matt Sydal, Lio Rush, Sami Callihan [The Crash CRUISER]
First defense for Horus.
3) Douglas James, Jack Evans, Joey Ryan b Bestia 666, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Mr. 450
Joey Ryan replaced Flip Gordon (ROH). Jack and Bestia continue to make challenges.
4) Jeff Cobb & Keith Lee b Brian Cage & Willie Mack
5) Penta Zero M & The King b La Máscara & M-ximo
Rey Escorpion ran in post match, continuing his alliance with Mascara & M-ximo
6) Nicho el Millionario L Daga, Garza Jr., Damián 666 [hair, cage]
Order of escape was Damian, Garza and Nicho. Garza betrayed Daga to escape, which appeared to be more than usual lucha cage match mishaps post match – Garza may have turned rudo and distances himself from La Rebelion. Nicho said he’d be back in eight months after knee surgery.

Garza was invited to join Los Ingober Indies, which may also be how they’re getting around that trademark. It didn’t appear he accepted, but this was pushed as a situation in progress rather than just a one off thing. Edit: Sure looks like Garza’s quit the group on Facebook.

This show seemed to draw well as usual. Nicho’s booked thru next weekend, so it may be his surgery is still a few days off.

The Crash’s next Tijuana show will be 07/14. That’s only three weeks away, so a lineup might be out next week.

Ultimo Ninja beat Zach Sabre Jr. on last night’s Martinez Entertainment/CTLL show (Texas). ZSJ can’t buy a win in lucha promotions.

The Hijo del Santo/Bandido title match Santo was advertising didn’t happen, or at least didn’t happen on the first day of the tour. They did the Santos over Bandido & Silver King instead in Manchester. That seems more like a last day of tour match.

AAA will air the minis title match, the OGT trios and the main event for the Mexico City taipng today.

Saturday

Sunday

Lady Shani & Zuzu Divine defeated La Hiedra & Lilith Dark to win a women’s tag team in Arena Aficion.

Arena Lopez Mateos will have La Mascara versus Penta 0M on 07/16.

El Hijo del Santo & Rey Mysterio Jr. are among those being advertised for a 09/17 show in Cicero (Chicago). I’m a little skeptical on this one.

Powerbomb.TV announced their title tournament will include a opening round match in RIOT.

Lucha Underground posted a Joey Ryan promo for his match with Taya, full of puns.

Rockstar Pro Wrestling of Ohio is working with ChilangaMask for shows on 09/15 in Dayton, which better explains why ChilangaMask is running that day and 09/16 in New Jersey.

Lineups

CMLL (FRI) 06/30/2017 Arena México
1) Drone, Pegasso, The Panther vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
2) Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, Titán vs Pólvora, Ripper, Virus
3) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Soberano Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Mephisto, Sam Adonis
4) Misterioso Jr., Pierroth, Rush vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys [Relevos Increíbles]
5) Volador Jr. vs Dragón Lee, Ángel de Oro, Valiente, Negro Casas, Shocker, Luciferno, Hechicero [CMLL Universal, battle royal]
the Copa Bobby Bonales will also be handed out
6) ? vs ?? [CMLL Universal, 8f]
7) ? vs ?? [CMLL Universal, 8f]
8) ? vs ?? [CMLL Universal, 8f]
9) ? vs ?? [CMLL Universal, 8f]
10) ? vs ?? [CMLL Universal, quarterfinal]
11) ? vs ?? [CMLL Universal, quarterfinal]
12) ? vs ?? [CMLL Universal, semifinal]

The Universal tournament is early; the only time it’s been earlier was the first one in 2009. CMLL will have tournaments on Friday nights for 9 of 13 weeks, or 6 of 7. I guess the good thing is they’re just about running out of them.

CMLL attempts to have exactly 16 champions for this tournament every year. It doesn’t always work out, but CMLL title match changes thru the year are done with the 16 number in mind, especially during the last few months before the tournament. It’s a odd and not useful way to handle championships, and causes situations like Shocker to be tag champion while being hurt for a half year because it’s easier than figuring out which two people who aren’t champions can win the titles instead while still getting Negro Casas in it. And it also means a guy like Shocker has to get back in the ring in time for the Universal tournament, possibly just to have a five minute match. Maybe this would be worth the effort if it meant more, but Valiente’s crazy win last year has long been forgotten – if that level of result isn’t going to have lasting results, then maybe CMLL shouldn’t be booking their year around this tournament.

The placement of this tournament seems to explain how and why they handled the heavyweight and light heavyweight titles like they did: they weren’t going to have time to put them on a Friday show with the Gran Alternativa happening, but they had to get new champions ASAP because of this tournament.

Mephisto, Niebla Roja, Marco Corleone, Mistico, Ultimo Guerrero, Soberano Jr., Atlantis and Ephesto are left for Block B.

Atlantis and UG (twice) are the other former winners. There’s no obvious direction except for Volador & Ultimo Guerrero being in the finals of everything and being on opposite blocks here. Valiente’s win really most everyone in play. (Not you, Luiciferno.)

The final of the Universal tournament will take place on 07/14. That may also be the date for Vangellys/Pierroth.

This is also the Copa Bobby Bonales show, though Copa makes it sound like a competition and it’s more an award for service. Blue Panther (2009), Negro Casas (2010), Atlantis (2011) and Ultimo Guerrero (2014) have been given them in the past. Volador or Shocker would fit.

Super Astro (SAT) 07/29/2017 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Candy White, Diva Salvaje, Keyra, Pegasuz vs Estrellita, Hijo del Alebrije, Lady Maravilla, Yuriko
2) Emperador Azteca, Metaleón, Mr. Leo vs Diamante, Fly Warrior, Imposible
3) Lizmark Jr. & Ninja Jr. vs Fresero Jr. & Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
4) Flamita & Rey Horus vs Trauma I & Trauma II
5) Mr. Niebla & Shocker vs Hijo De Dos Caras & Silver King
6) Gran Guerrero, Mr. Electro, Último Guerrero vs La Bestia Del Ring, Rey Escorpión, Septiembre Negro Jr.
7) Hijo de LA Park & LA Park vs Dragón Lee & Rush

This promotion doesn’t seem to run the same venue twice, one of a number of things unusual about it. For all Rush seems to have the freedom to do in CMLL, it’s only in the indies where he can get people to promote Pierroth under his new name (one they don’t have to pay the original Pierroth to use.)

CMLL & the Crash tonight, CMLL in ROH, Super X results

tonight

IWRG FILL (WED) 06/21/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV, The Gladiatores]
1) Craken, Matrix Jr., Satán X b Destructor, Dinámico, Dranzer
2) Adrenalina, Skanda, Warrior Jr. b Fly Tiger, Keiser Drago, Voltar
3) Blue Monsther, Celestial Boy, Shadow Boy b Acero, Auzter, Vórtize
4) Hijo del Pantera, Lunatic Xtreme, Toxin b Hijo del Alebrije, Kanon, Leo
Hijo del Alebrije replaced Dragon Fly, Hijo del Pantera replaced Skanda, worked rudo, and snuck in a foul on Alebrije.
5) Ángel Oriental, Aramis, Atomic Star, Black Dragón, Demonio Infernal, Diablo Jr., Dinamic Black, Power Bull b Aeroboy (Estado De México), Alex Pain, Centella Salazar, Danny Barrio, Homonimo, Payachucho, Stone Magic, Último Conde [Copa Higher Power]
Gym FILL (Bombero Infenal) versus Gym Cuatitlan (Robin Maravilla)

Main event looks like about what you expect out of the Copa Higher Power

Super X (THU) 06/22/2017 Big Daddy Latino, Tlalpan, Distrito Federal [+LuchaTV, R de Rudo]
1) Superxtar b Aeroboy, Eterno
2) Mini Rey Misterio DRAW Mini Juventud Guerrera
double pin
3) Marcela b Sanely
Marcela replaced Lady Apache
4) Huracán Ramírez DQ Hijo De Dos Caras
Dos fouled Huracan
5) Sam Adonis b Súper Crazy
after a match that went all around the night club, Adonis used the ropes to beat Crazy
6) Juventud Guerrera b Dragón Lee
Guerrera won after a mask pull. Dragon Lee asked for a rematch.

I can’t tell who is Mini Juvy from the photos (only they look way too big to be the ex-Mascarita Sagrada.)

After three weeks of a Gran Alternativa, and spotlight title matches on the last three CMLL streams, tonight’s CMLL show is easy to miss. CMLL’s not designed it to be that way, there are storylines going on that they very much would like us to care about, but those feuds are either running in place or not that interesting to start with. There’s a lower chance of good matches than usual.

Maybe one of the three rivalries will move to a next step tonight. One is Niebla Roja versus the Guerreros (as the semimain tonight, with Angel de Oro, Dragon Lee, and Niebla Roja versus Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas, and Rey Bucanero.) Another is Pierroth versus Vangellys, who face in a dreadful lightning match. The last is Zeuxis & Princesa Sugehit, who are joined this week by Estrellita, Marcela, Dalys and Amapola. All feel like they have the upside of a secondary apuesta match on the Anniversary show, but there’s three of those and probably only one is going to take place in September. If one or two are happening in July, then it’s time to start making that clear. If they’re not happening until August, or just not actually happening, maybe this show means nothing.

The main event has nothing to do with anything. Diamante Azul makes his latest return, this time teaming with Volador and Marco against Rush, Euforia and Barbaro Cavernario. It’s listed as a relevos increíbles match because CMLL still treats Rush a tecnico despite not being one for years. CMLL also is talking up a Rush/Diamante Azul feud we haven’t seen. Stukita makes a more exciting return in the minis match, with Electrico & Shockercito against Mercurio, Nitro and Violencia. The opener has Arkangel & Disturbio versus Flyer & Robin, with all the advantages to the veteran rudos.

The show will air at 8:30pm on ClaroSports and probably on Facebook. CMLL has also been covertly streaming the broadcast and posting it publicly on their channel within an hour of it airing the last couple weeks. I may not be around to record today (and even if I do, the frequently dying streams may my kill my recording), so probably keep an eye on the official channel if you want to watch it later.

The Crash is also back tonight in Tijuana. The main event is a four way cage match with Daga, Garza, Damian and Nicho, where the loser loses their hair. Everyone, myself included, assumed Nicho was losing his hair when this was announced, as a farewell before getting his leg operation. Nicho’s booked at least thru next weekend, so it may not be as quick a goodbye as thought. Still, only he or Damian should be losing this match.

The semimain has Penta & Fenix against Mascara & M-ximo, which might also be a place for someone new to show up. Jeff Cobb & Keith Lee take on Brian Cage & Willie Mack in a battle of large agile people. Jack Evans & Bestia 666 continue to feud in the tercera trios, and Rey Horus defends his newly won cruiserwieght title against Lion Rush, Matt Sydal and Sami Callian in the second match. Black Danger and Oraculo, who’ve been feuding towards a mask match, open the show.

The Crash’s show is believed to be not streamed anywhere, though you may want to check in on their Facebook later on to be sure. It may show up at some time, in some place, but they’re not saying. Konnan’s said they’d have the video worked out by “next month”, so this would possibly be the final show with this issue. Fancams should turn up as usual.

ROH announced Ultimo Guerrero & Rey Bucanero will face Mistico & Atlantis on 08/19 in Liverpool as part of their UK tour. That’s the best match they could do with those four. UG versus Mistico would be the match to run on the show the next day. That’s all fine and good.

ROH’s text piece hyping this is bad. Whoever wrote it believes the Mistico coming to CMLL is Caristico, not the Munoz brother who’s been Mistico for years now. The photo in the piece is Mistico II, but the background information is all about Mistico I’s history with these two guys. Advertising Caristico as Mistico would make CMLL really unhappy, so I don’t think that’s happening here – I think whoever wrote this just doesn’t know CMLL at all. The piece generally reads like it was written based on a history that article that hasn’t been updated since 2010 (they’re not sure if Atlantis & Mistico will be able to be friends), so I’m wondering if it’s just some wikipedia out there that hasn’t been updated. Maybe whoever wrote it just stopped following lucha libre around 2010, which would definitely explain why Rey Bucanero is booked for this tour, he was still great at that point.

ROH actually has a PPV tonight. It’s the one with The Kingdom versus Terrible and Ultimo Guerrero. It’ll probably be better than the CMLL show, though it’ll also cost you about $40. They’ll also probably continue to treat the CMLL guys like WCW treated it’s luchadors during the Nitro era, with the promotions and announcers not bothering to learn or care much about them. That is going to drive me nuts if I watch the show so I’m going to do my best not to do that. It’s probably going to mean nothing to the ROH fans who don’t really know these guys anyway.

Lucha Memes is running Gimnasio Hercules on 07/15
1) Los Traumas vs Freelance & Mike Segura

MDA says they’re bringing Alberto to Monterrey sometime in July. They’re promising more details at their show Sunday.

MedioTiempo has a video feature on Guerrero Maya Jr.’s trip to the Powerbomb.TV show.

The Dr. Wagner Jr. plane paint job took eight people four days to finish.

+Lucha has an interview with Penta 0M.

Lineups

IWRG (SUN) 07/02/2017 Arena Naucalpan
IWRG Festival de Mascaras, 2017
1) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Dragón Fly vs Hip Hop Man, La Mosca, Pibe Alfajor
2) Orito & Panterita (Freelance) vs Demonio Infernal & Eterno
3) Cerebro Negro & Veneno vs Bombero Infernal & El Hijo del Diablo
4) Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro vs Mega, Omega (09), Súper Mega
5) Imposible © vs Súper Nova [IWRG Rey del Ring]
second defense
6) Internacional Pantera, Mr. Electro, Trauma I vs Groon XXX, Guerrero Maya Sr., Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
7) Carístico vs Black Warrior
8) Villano III Jr., Villano IV, Villano V Jr. vs Negro Navarro, Texano Jr., Trauma II
Villano V Jr.’s debut under that name

IWRG’s annual show where everyone can wear their masks for one night and old names are brought back. The main event is a sort of Villanos versus Misionerios match, and Caristico vs Black Warrior is a big feud from almost a decade a go now. It’d normally be impossible for AAA and CMLL wrestlers to be on the same show, but Caristico might be able to get away with it (though a change still seems possible.)

AAA EMW (FRI) 07/21/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Drago vs Mamba, Estrella Divina [EMW MIDDLE]
first defense
2) Argenis, El Hijo del Medico Asesino, La Parka vs Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown
3) Faby Apache vs Taya ©, Lady Shani [Reina De Reinas]
first defense
4) Pagano vs Mil Muertes [EMW HEAVY]
new championship
5) Johnny Mundo © vs Hijo del Fantasma, Texano Jr. [AAA HEAVY]
second defense when announced

This is a house show, but AAA’s main titles are being defended so it’s notable. Tijuana is the only place Taya & Mundo are working off TV for AAA. In fact, this is currently the first match Taya’s scheduled to work for AAA since the last show in Tijuana – between the car accident and maybe scheduling issues, Taya & Ayako had a match that AAA themselves thought was awesome and then haven’t been back on TV at all. They’ve failed to take advantage of whatever momentum was there.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-06-19 

Hechicero tricky cradle

Recapped: 06/20/2017

Matches:

All matches aired live from Arena Puebla

Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja beat Fuerza Chicana & Policeman
(11:22 [5:53, 3:04, 2:25], 2/3, via
VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Estrellita & Sanely beat  Amapola & Dalys
(12:11 [5:28, 3:11, 3:32], 1/3 DQ, via
VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Ares, Arkángel de la Muerte, Rey Apocalipsis beat Black Tiger, Espíritu Maligno, Lestat  
(17:45 [8:35, 3:28, 5:42], 1/3, via
VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys beat Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Titán
(15:45 [5:34, 3:42, 6:29], 1/3, via
VideosOficialesCMLL, ok)

Carístico, Dragón Lee, Mistico beat Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
(7:34 [3:24, 4:10], straight falls, via VideosOficialesCMLL, below average)

Hechicero © beat Atlantis for the NWA World Light Heavyweight Championship
(17:52 [4:58, 3:44, 9:10], 1/3, via VideosOficialesCMLL, great)

  1. Hechicero conjuro (4:58)

  2. Atlantis double arm cradle (3:44)

  3. Hechicero entanglement submission (9:10)

What happened:

we don’t get this comedy enough

Hechicero beat Atlantis to remain NWA Light Heavyweight Champion

Dragon Lee defeated Negro Casas after the two feuded all match.

Dalys & Amapola were disqualified for excessive violence, setting up a match next week.

Ares & Espíritu Negro show the slightest sign of a feud.

Thoughts: 

this did not go well

The main worked a great bit in overcoming problems it was creating. Hechicero & Atlantis’ work in first fall was solid, but they were battling thru issues in that third fall and it was remarkable they were able to finish as smooth as they could. Something was off on the side kick spot Hechicero did in the second fall – he covered for it as well as usual, but they went back to it a moment later and nothing looked smooth to finish that fall. Compounding things, Tirantes appeared to pull a muscle in his left leg counting the finishing pin, and was obviously in pain every time to get up and down for counts in the third fall. That third fall was heavily built around doing many third falls, so Tirantes slow movement hampered the speed they could be done, but he was also in too much pain to make a show of himself in the process and the focus remained on the luchadors. Atlantis also bled from the nose for the last few minutes of the match, courtesy of a Hechicero knee to the face on his standing shooting star press. (It’s near that Hechicero can do the shooting star press, but it’s a challenging move to be thrown out as a middle of the third fall random spot and his landings on them have never looked smooth.) Atlantis being able to keep battling at about his normal speed despite taking such a serious blow made the match more impressive, and they did so much that it felt like it was a big deal. Atlantis looks older than ever, but there was enough of him to make this match with Hechicero worked. We’ve now seen Hechicero with Rey Bucanero and Atlantis in this title reign (since the Stuka match never aired), and I hope we get to see with someone a big younger who can move.

Cavernario looked way off in the semimain, struggling to take headscissors from both Carístico and Mistico. It seemed to and derail the match, with the técnicos deciding not to deal with it. Mistico walked off grabbing his neck, having landed badly on the first one. Cavernario would look many times better the next day. Casas/Dragon Lee stuff look good.

SSP knee to the face

The fourth match was a quicker match than usual, good pace, better than Friday but nothing special. Putting the dives pots in earlier changed the feel around usual, and Vangellys getting in the spear gave another peak to the match. Stigma has a springboard kick to the knee that I’m not even sure it was supposed to be to the knee.

Ares more aggressive and central this week, feuding slightly with Espiritu Negro – but so was Arkangel and Lestat was involved too and there’s no direction here unless you also obsessively compare the lineups from week to week. The rudos got some serious static from Tirantes for continuing the beatdown after the match. Tirantes shoved Ares to get him to stop, which might have been needed from a time perspective but I don’t imagine would happen anywhere else.

The excessive violence DQ in the women’s match was not built at all, coming off as random. The rudas were at least looking good at destroying people. The tecnica highlight was Estrellita not remembering how to put on her own finish or didn’t bother because it was going to be broken up anyway.

The opener moved well, had some decent action, was actually OK fine instead of the usual handwave OK.

lucha TV preview for weekend of June 23th

full size

AAA finishes up the Mexico City taping. The minis title match should air this week, but I have a suspicion the La Llave de La Gloria match will air instead. (Hope the missing match makes YouTube either way.)

IWRG is as iffy as ever; I don’t think they’ve aired this Sunday’s taping, and they might instead of the Wednesday show. (The best shot at seeing the Copa Higher Power is +Lucha, as always.)

For people who don’t want to deal with YouTube, this week’s Lucha Azteca should be really good.

The text preview and matches for this week’s Lucha Underground suggests this may be a Crane/Catrina/Muertes/Ivelisse??? focused episode. The police are there too though, and they shouldn’t go so long without addressing their status quo after Delgado’s death.

CMLL Domingos de Familiar: 2017-06-18 

Astral had this coming

Recapped: 06/19/2017

Matches:

This aired live from Arena México on 06/18/2017.

Akuma & Espanto Jr. beat Astral & Sensei
(10:40 [3:37, 3:10, 3:53], 1/3, ok)

Dalys, Metálica, Zeuxis beat La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit 
(14:05 [4:45, 4:09, 5:11], 2/3, ok)

El Gallito & Microman beat Mije & Perico Zakarías
(17:34, one fall match, below average)

Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. beat Felino, Hechicero, Pierroth
(18:25 [8:15, 3:06, 7:04], 2/3 DQ, ok)

Marco Corleone © beat Terrible for the CMLL World Heavyweight Championship
(15:32 [4:14, 1:01, 10:17], 2/3, good)

  1. Terrible fujiwara armbar (4:14)
  2. Marco Aero Italia (1:01)
  3. Marco Powerbomb (10:17)

 

Dragón Lee, Stuka Jr., Volador Jr. beat Ephesto, Mephisto, Shocker
(15:05 [5:07, 3:55, 6:03], 1/3, ok)

What happened: 

required micros stage dive GIF

CMLL aired the Father’s Day Sunday show without advertising it ahead of time. The Father’s Day show was built around seeing the edecanes; the edecanes dance numbers were removed from the show.

Marco Corleone made his first defense of the CMLL heavyweight title, defeating Terrible.

Princesa Sugehit and Zeuxis continued their feud with no obvious change brought on by Sugehit’s newly announced upcoming WWE appearance. This time, Zeuxis was eliminated, but unmasked Sugehit from the outside to set up the win for Dalys. There’s still no post-match microphone challenges; it seems like the mask match is happening, but they’re not close enough to put a date t it yet.

Gallito & Microman remain undefeated over Zacarias & Mije.

Thoughts:

Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja still getting their teamwork back up to speed

Yes, I am annoyed they aired this show and not the one with Dragon Lee/Cavernario.

The heavyweight title match was the only thing you should spend any real time on here. We may not take the CMLL titles all that seriously, but the people holding them seem to consider them worth upping their games. Maximo had some of the best singles matches of his career when he was heavyweight champion and Marco and Terrible had a strong match in Marco’s first defense. Marco mixed up his offense a bit for the championship match, and Terrible always seems game if he’s in a singles match with someone who wants to do something. They had a few good near falls that got the crowd believing a title change could happen – the neck scissors submission looked good, the roll thru Aero Italia was a smart spot since it’s often a finish – and the fans reacted well despite Marco’s not being a usual favorite of these crowd. (Putting female favorite Marco against tough guys Terrible on Father’s Day probably should’ve backfired loudly.) Some of the punch spots didn’t go as well as usual and I think they can expand on this, but this was fine for a title match.

The micros seemed to have taken the some unfortunate lessons from their previous success. They went for more spots, more time, and ended up with more things not going well and less of the feeling of an actual match. This match seemed like it proved they’d be best showing up once every few months. The remainder of the show was the usual disposal b-show matches, with the distress of Pierroth feeling he could do Rush’s invisible football spot on his own.

TripleMania date change? Super X tonight

SuperX

AAA has spent it’s entire year building to Psycho Clown versus Dr. Wagner in a mask versus mask match on August 26th in Arena Ciudad de Mexico. That day might be changing. Last night, the Wrestling Observer Newsletter stated “it appears they’ve already made the call to move it to August 27th.” This would be be because of Mayweather/McGregor fight taking place on August 26, and perhaps with the idea of airing on TV in Mexico. At the same time, Leo Riano’s column in Record says AAA had a plan of airing the show (or at least Wagner/Psycho) live on a Televisa network that day, and would still do against the fight. AAA has said nothing about moving the date, and would be expected to say nothing until they’re ready to make announcement.

It’s not totally clear if Riano is saying this was a done deal, just that’s a possibility, or somewhere in between, and he’s not been a reliable news source. That mask match would probably be highly rated, especially if it came on before the boxing match, but they’d be forfeiting some decent PPV revenue by airing it on TV. (It’s possible Televisa could be paying AAA some money for the rights; it’s been reported in the past that Televisa pays nothing for the weekly AAA TV show.) Airing it over the air in Mexico means AAA might as well air it free on the internet, because pirated feeds would be pretty easy to come by.

I’m skeptical the show will air on Televisa. It does fit AAA’s overall strategy of trying to increase the awareness. Nothing would make AAA seem like a bigger deal than if they were all over today that day. AAA’s also a company that seems be counting it’s pennies carefully and it should be hard for them to give up any revenue. I’m less sure about the date, but that seems like something they’ll want to decide as soon as possible just to make it clear. It’d be a good idea to announce they’re NOT changing if that’s decision too, and it’s noticeable that AAA hasn’t said that either.

Super X runs tonight in Mexico City. Matches include Juventud Guerrera against Dragon Lee, Sam Adonis versus Super Crazy, and Mini Rey Mysterio (the recently ex-AAA Octagoncito) against a debuting Mini Juvnentud Guerrera. It’s a good bet for turning up on the usual fan cam YouTube channels. MedioTiempo has an interview with Juventud Guerrera about his career.

The Lucha Libre World/Todo x el Todo tour starts tonight in Manchester. Hijo del Santo says he’ll defend his WBC title on tonight’s show versus el Bandido. It’ll be his second defense since winning the title in 2007.

CMLL announced NJPW’s Juice Robinson will appear on their 09/01 Gran Prix show. He’ll also be wrestling for Lucha Memes.

CMLL wrestlers (The Panther, Blue Panther, Flyer and Stuka) participated in a panel discussion on blood drives.

EMW says their AAA house show on 07/21 will include a Pagano vs Mil Muertes EMW Heavyweight Championship match. The EMW title was supposed to be on a line on between Psycho & Wagner at the TV taping and I guess they’re assuming everyone knows Mil Muertes is Mesias. They’re also advertising a Taya vs Faby Apache vs Lady Shani Reina de Reinas title match.

KDNA is teasing announcing the lineup for the AAA TV taping on 07/16 in Arena Jose Sulaiman soon. The teaser they posted doesn’t show any foreigners, it’s mostly the usual lineup.

In addition to the normal names, Carlito is advertised for the 08/04 The Crash show in Mexicali.

ChilangaMask will run a show on 09/16 in Camden, New Jersey with Guerrero Maya Jr., Solar, Aeroboy and more.

Belial says he and Impulso said they’re looking for a new partner since Arez is hanging out with IndyNation now.

Hijo de Dr. Wagner picked up an injury, and is off a 06/24 show in Mexicali and 06/30 show in Torreon.

LG promotions (Xalapa) blamed economic conditions for lucha libre shows drawing poorly in Xalapa. They mentioned drawing only 4,000 people in the 6,000 seat Arena Xalapa last December as a sing they’ve started to turn it around.

DJ Spectro says Rey Neptuno passed away.

LuchaWorld has the latest edition of their podcast.

Segunda Caida reviews Virus matches.

LuchaTalk has a new edition of their podcast.

Liger Fever translates an El Dandy story.

Lineups

MOBIL (SAT) 06/24/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Javier Cruz Jr., Johnny Dinamo, Magnum vs Évola, Gran Kenut, Thunder Boy
2) Ángel Negro, Flash I, Flash II vs León Blanco, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno
3) Marcela, Silueta, Súper Estrella vs Chik Tormenta, La Comandante, La Pantera
4) Explosivo, Sky Kid, Smaker vs Exterminador, Furia Roja, Maléfico
5) Motor Machine, Power Diesel, Star Black, Vaquero Jr. vs Joker, Ráfaga, Sádico, Satánico

A show sponsored by a gas station company is a thing that happens when your government starts privatize the gas station industry.

CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-06-17 

Jarochita lived

Recapped: 06/21/2017

Matches: 

All matches were taped at Arena Coliseo Guadalajara on 06/13/2017 

La Comandante, La Seductora, Tiffany beat La Jarochita, Sanely, Skadi
(12:26 [5:33, 2:53, 4:00], 2/3, via thecubsfan, below average)

Ángel de Oro, Guerrero Maya Jr., Niebla Roja beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(12:07 [5:03, 3:01, 4:03], 1/3, via thecubsfan, ok)

Carístico, Marco Corleone, Mistico beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
(8:57 [3:24, 1:48, 3:45], 2/3, via thecubsfan, good)

What happened:

it stuns me Mistico does this outside of the streaming shows

Nothing really.

Whatever piece of software Televisa Guadalajara uses to block all non-news shows from airing on their internet feed failed and this full show aired for the first time in a long time. The promotion’s Facebook site neglected to post results for this show for about a week, so I decided this would be a good opportunity to get those results and see if they were doing anything noteworthy on this show. Those results turned up before I watched this, but it still felt easier than starting on another 2 hour plus CMLL stream.

This show was announced by the same crew who handle the Fuego en el Ring podcast (which might be a recent change; previous shows were done by the Super Libre radio group.) There’s in fall breaks for the tequila sponsors but not many adds in between the matches. The matches themselves seemed edit down, with time cut out from the beginning of each fall rather than condensing the matches, but they still find time to air the Ecos de Lucha Libre segments CMLL used to be airing on their Mexico City streams.

Thoughts: 

Jarochita is OK relatively when she’s not reliant on someone catching her

The matches themselves were not that interesting. The main event was the classic version of that match. They did just enough that it just barely crossed the threshold of a good match for me, though it totally felt like a nine minute and there’s plenty of longer/better versions of that sort of match. There’s not as many where the técnicos get cheered and the rudos get booed, and it made me wish we’d get a big match to slip thru under this structure, even with it being edited down.

The other matches were also exactly to form but to lesser results. The second match felt super generic, and their B- match isn’t at the level of the main event. Mephisto and Niebla Roja also had some iffy moments, as the Niebla Roja tecnico experiment is still obviously searching for the right formula.

The women’s match was full of rudas taking bad looking bumps (or being incapable of bumping at all) and the técnicos showing awkward offense, but just generally no good and not something that’d make for good GIFs – up until Skadi didn’t do much to catch Jarochita on a dive. That match was full with luchadoras who wouldn’t be in CMLL if the barrier to wrestling was based on performance, but Skadi still stands out as the least qualified. She’s more dangerous than any first match dive.

Lucha Underground 3×23: Family First

Mascarita & Pindar

Matches

Cage beat Vinnie Massaro
(3:29, Drill Claw, ok)

Marty the Moth beat Saltador
(7:25, double underhook inverted powerslam face crusher, OK but interesting)

Pindar beat Máscarita Sagrada
(5:55, Pain Killer, good)

Fenix beat Mariposa
(5:32, Fire Driver, good)

Developments

bye Vinnie

Lucha Underground is now halfway through the first round of the Cueto Cup and the format has definitely been established:

  • 4 matches, all from the same group

  • 1 Rey Mysterio/Johnny Mundo video package building to their match

  • heavy focus on a singular storyline (one that was setup before the hiatus)

Last week was Cage’s episode. This week was all about the relationships between Marty, Mariposa, Fenix and Melissa Santos. Fenix and Melissa are flirting with each other. Marty is serial killer levels of obsessed with Melissa; she’s not aware how bad it is. Mariposa relished the idea she might get to have a match with her brother and doesn’t seem to like him, but seems to see him as a tool in whatever long term plan she’s got.

Mariposa’s plan didn’t work here; Fenix beat her in a match that was back and forth but never felt like the former champion was in danger of losing. Marty attacked Fenix afterwards, which the announcers was believed to be about them being next round opponents but was probably more about Marty’s jealousy. Marty himself defeated Saltador, then returned to his lair to reveal an altar of Melissa photos, a piece of Melissa’s hair stashed away, and an extra photo being kept in Marty’s pants.

Mascarita Sagrada diving headscissors

The other two matches were without as much incident. The Rabbit Tribe still believes Máscarita Sagrada to be their god. He doesn’t share their belief, and it didn’t help him much against Pindar of the Snake Tribe (though he got in a lot before losing. Cage also advance by defeating Vinnie Massaro. Vinnie got in a surprising amount of offense before deciding to mess with Cage’s glove and angering him. There seemed to be some definite backslide in that plot line this week: Cage was able to remove the glove (Delgado believed Cage could not last week, though perhaps that was just a bad assumption) and Cage’s post match gloved punches to Vinnie’s head bloodied him, but did not blast his head to pieces. Vinnie was battered as usual, but lives to fight another day. Just not in this cup.

Thoughts

The other pattern in this first round Cup matches is they’re giving everyone at least some time, and giving chances for the obvious first round losers to still get some attention in a loss. Vinnie got nearly 4 minutes, Sagrada got about 8, the other two were in between. There hasn’t been an upset yet, but those out of the tournament are getting to showcase their personalities in the ring in a way that’s going to help when Saltador is back teaming with the Rabbit Tribe or Mariposa is part of a group instead of an individual.

Fenix well timed dropkick

These matches also just felt more successful than last week. The Rabbit Tribe matches are good examples: Mala Suerte showed off his skills, but had trouble connecting it to his persona. Saltador did a whole bunch of weird and strange mat wrestling matches that fit better with a strange guy in checkered outfit. At this level, it’s not about establishing finishers for credibility, it’s about just making the guys more identifiable next time they come on screen.

Vinnie became identifiable as the guy who will totally kill himself in his one squash a season. He got in the snoring elbow, he got in more offense than anyone thought, but – just like in the Pentagon match – he took a few huge bumps to put over his opponent big. Getting dumped all the way to the floor looked devastating. I’d like to see him more often, but I’d also like to see him one piece.

this got violent

Pindar is the best guy on the roster to have a match with Máscarita Sagrada. No one’s going to be a better base for his moves, and do his best to make it look good. This was the best Máscarita Sagrada has looked in a match on this show, even considering the Believer’s Backlash is going to be much more remembered. It’s probably the best he’ll look unless they bring in a mini rudo to work with him.

The Mariposa character is inconsistent – she was introduced as just about the baddest woman in the world, but she’s definitely never been booked that way for long and her acting scared of superkicks played against that even harder. (If it was supposed to be a ploy to distract Fenix, it wasn’t done well enough.) It also pushed to questions of man on woman violence to the forefront of a show trying to background those concerns as much as possible. They may have done all that to make it clear Fenix isn’t a jerk for fighting a woman, but one of the larger premises of the show is everyone’s equal in the Lucha Underground ring and those two thoughts don’t mesh. The action of the match was really good, one of Mariposa’s best matches here, and the story they told around those elements was fine enough, but the context made it less enjoyable.

The Marty stuff would feel over the top if I didn’t just see Lorenzo Lamas’ eyeball on the floor last week. He’s going all in the character – which is almost not even needed, since the crowd seems to be reacting to him that way without having even seen the vignettes. But at least it’s a direction for their second round match, the only one so far that has an obvious issue.

snoring elbow from @snoringelbow