Tag: Valiente

Vangelis wins En Busca de un Idolo, Guerrero Maya vs Black Terry

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CMLL (FRI) 07/12/2013 Arena Mexico [CMLL]
1) Eléctrico & Último Dragoncito b Pequeño Olímpico & Pierrothito
Tecnicos took 1/3
2) Namajague, Puma, Shigeo Okumura b Diamante, Sagrado, Tritón
Rudos took 2/3.
3) Diamante Azul, La Máscara, Shocker b Dragón Rojo Jr., Ephesto, Mephisto
Tecnicos took 1/3.
4) Averno, Negro Casas, Rey Escorpión b Blue Panther, Rush, Super Porky
Straight brawl and straight falls. Negro got in a foul on Rush in the end. Lots of post match talking and fighting to set up next week.
5) Vangelis b Valiente [En Busca de un Idolo, final]
Vangelis won a 10+ minute match, surviving two Valiente Busters and escaping a Valiente casita to put on his own – with some help from Virus. Valiente was livid post match, had to be held back by Fuego and Stuka (there to get 4th/3rd place trophies) as well as Negro Casas, and refused to accept his second place trophy. Vangelis, who had a rooting section, decided the win to the rudos.
6) Atlantis, Máscara Dorada, Mistico b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
Tecnicos took 1/3.

En Busca de un Idolo’s results page says “the tournament has changed the way you look at Mexican wrestling.” Matches happens, they’re never mentioned again, seems like the same lucha libre. Maybe I missed something! It seemed like Valiente vs Virus was going somewhere, but Misterioso vs the Judges has not. Still, Vangelis ought to find himself a trio just to be sure.

Diamante, Triton, and Sagrado versus Puma, Arkangel and Skandalo has been added to next week’s card as the opener.

AAA interviews Chessman before his tag match Monday on the Puebla TV taping. Chessman hates Jack Evans and Angelico for being male models. It’s not quite dancers, but it’s close enough to annoy Chessman. “The girls shout in excitement for them, but I will make them scream in horror.” Chessman likes Eterno, thinks he’s got a future in lucha libre, and just needs to get with the right people (rudos.) KrisZ says Black Killer & Dracul Jr. vs Blaze & Principe Azul has been added as the dark match.

Rob has highlights of 06/11/13 CMLL.

Porra Fresa previews Monday’s card, is angry at people trying to give away finishes. (Wait, is he mad at me? oh no.)

Hijo del Santo says he won’t be in Denver on a show tonight for a card promoted with him and LA Park.

ChilangaMask announced Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Black Terry for their next show. Hooray!

Principe Orion says he’s going to learn in DTU and use the knowledge to make it to the WWE.

Estrellas del Ring has the third part of it’s trip to the lucha libre exhibit at Museo de Noreste.

Arena Mexico is taken over for a Golden Gloves tournament today.

Challenges to build up a Brazo Jr. vs ATM match.

Anime debuts in Arena Aficion this Sunday.

Cronicas y Leyendas looks back at Texano winning the UWA LH title in 1992.

Triplemania PPV, Stuka, Valiente, Vangelis, Fuego advance, Chicas Vuelta Vuelta

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TripleMania will be on conventional PPV. AAA confirmed this last night and posted the pricing today. If you order before the show, it’s $18, plus $5 more for HD, plus $2 more if you call to order instead of using the internet. If you wait until Sunday, there’s another $5 surcharge in there.  Whatever way you do it, it’s cheaper to buy the iPPV – but you get on TV, which is nice and I’d pay a little extra not to have to deal with cords and multiple screens.  No word about that movie theater plan.

AAA’s been doing a lot of press all week to talk about TripleMania. The annual pilgrimage, taking place the same day as Antonio Pena’s birthday, is happening right now.

CMLL closed the En Busca de un Idolo polling much earlier this week, updated the scoreboard, then took the scoreboard down and just posted the final totals. They might have done this because the polling scores made no sense. This is what they appeared to be (based on what they had for the last 3 weeks.)

40 Stuka
39 Valiente
37 Vangelis
22 Fuego
5 Sangre Azteca
4 Tiger
4 Hijo del Fantasma
0 Misterioso

The numbers on the website didn’t make any sense as they were listed. It looked like they gave Fuego 42 points for the 40 point poll (despite giving the actual winning 40 to Stuka for the third straight week.) What appears to actually have happened is Fuego got 22 points for votes, and they threw in the 20 points for winning his match over Misterioso in the same column. (The last update still had him listed as 1 win instead of 2.)

The final totals were 333 Valiente
280 Vangelis
278 Stuka Jr.
208 Fuego – should’ve been 206 but there was a typo never fixed
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202 Hijo del Fantasma
164 Tiger
140 Sangre Azteca
113 Misterioso Jr.

Walking thru the math fails is truly exciting, but the bigger point here is even the people running this system can’t keep track of these numbers – this point system is wildly unsuccessful.  Please make this easy to follow next year, if there is a next year.

For what it’s worth, if you take out the fan poll points, the order would’ve been Valiente, Hijo del Fantasma, Vangelis, Tiger, Stuka, Fuego, Sangre Azteca and Misterioso. The 3/4/5 group are all grouped in within 4 points.

Valiente, Vangelis, Stuka and Fuego advance, three tecnicos and one rudo like last year. Valiente and Stuka are the favorites for making the final two. The intermission trios match this Friday will be Negro Casas, Valiente & Stuka vs Vangelis, Virus and Fuego. Schedule, based on what they announced at the start, looks like

06/21: Valiente vs Vangelis, Stuka vs Fuego
06/28: Valiente vs Fuego, Vangelis vs Stuka
07/05: Valiente vs Stuka, Vangelis vs Fuego

That’ll probably change.

You can now rent the CMLL edecanes – for your corporate or private event. The 16 women currently working as ring girls for CMLL are going to be working as a group named “Chicas Vuelta, Vuelta”, they’ll be booked out thru CMLL’s office the same as the luchadors, they’ll be available to be booked on lucha libre shows as well as other events and they can work as dancers and singers as well. There’s been mentions in the past of some of the CMLL edecans having to choose between working for the promotion or working elsewhere due to conflicts, and this would seem to give them more work if they stay with CMLL. Having all of them at the Father’s Day show this Sunday is the kick off to the initiative.

Rob has highlights of AAA 06/17/07 Toluca, AAA 05/12/13 Durango, and CMLL from the first, second, third and fourth week of May 2007. Plus, typical CMLL editing.

Bill has highlights of 06/07/12 IWRG.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Lucha Libre in Japan

Super Crazy gets his GHC Junior Heavyweight title shot against Taiji Ishimori on July 7.

Super Crazy teams with Ricky Marvin NOAH’s July GHC Junior Tag Team tournament. Pesdailla teams with someone who translates to “Dual Force” as the “Ultraviolent Lucha Libre.” team Maybe Santo Jr. – I guess you can get from Tempestad to Dual Force. The South American team of Kaiser & Gaston Mateo are back as well.

Links

Soul Rocker says Machine is (back?) wrestling with the group tomorrow.

Daga wants to settle outstanding accounts with Davey Richards.

AAA is taking part in the campaign against childhood obesity again.

Hugo Savinovich likes AAA’s innovation and WWL and AAA working together.

Blue Demon & Hijo del Santo defend their PWR tag team titles in Watsonville, CA in July (assuming they get by Zumbi & Karaoui next Saturday.)

Lineup

CMLL (TUE) 06/18/2013 Arena Mexico
1) Metatrón & Robin vs Camorra & Ramstein
2) Pegasso, Starman, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Hooligan, Nitro, Skándalo
3) Hombre Bala Jr. vs Shigeo Okumura [lightning]
4) Bushiroad, Hijo del Fantasma, Sagrado vs Felino, Pólvora, Puma
5) Máscara Dorada vs Averno [NWA WELTER]
Mascara Dorada is champion. First defense.
6) Mistico, Titán, Valiente vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

I guess if your usual high flying Guadalajara tecnico partner is busy, Titan is a good fill-in.

Dorada vs Averno should be great.

CMLL (TUE) 06/18/2013 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Black Metal, Leo, Magnus vs Disturbio, Magnum, Sádico
2) Marcela & Silueta vs Amapola & Princesa Sugheit
3) Gallo, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr., Super Porky vs Kráneo, Maléfico, Sangre Azteca, Vangellys
4) Bam Bam vs Mercurio [hair]
5) La Máscara, La Sombra, Shocker vs Mr. Águila, Rey Bucanero, Volador Jr.

I really have no idea how that hair match is going to go.

Kraneo vs Guerrero Maya! An actual good CMLL women’s tag match! Wish this was still airing.

Valiente & Lyger keep their titles, Cindo de Mayo shows

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CMLL (MON) 05/02/2011 Arena Puebla [Cindo Radio]
4) Valiente b Virus [MEX WELTER]
Valiente kept the title. He’d like a world title match with Averno, Mephisto or Ultimo Guerrero. (Mephisto doesn’t actually have the world title.) Virus gave Valiente credit for the win, called him a good wrestler, and said the wrestling connoisseur would appreciate their bout.
5) Rush, Strong Man, Toscano b Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
Strong Man replaced Black Warrior.

No results from the early matches as of yet.

CMLL in NJPW
05/03: Jushin Liger beat Mascara Dorada [CMLL WELTER]; 10:04, brainbuster for the win.

Liger’s turned back Dorada and Sombra twice. Liger spoke positively about Dorada, who appeared to have a good tournament, but pointed out he’s beatable on the ground. Liger’s post match comments seem to point to another Sombra match. Dorada will get another singles match with Liger in Best of Super Juniors tournament, which starts up on May 26. Dorada has one more day on the tour, then flies home for Friday’s show.

Cinco de Mayo

Dragon Rojo vs “Angel Azteca” is billed for a NY tequila show on 05/05.

Lucha Va Voom’s shows are main evented by Sicodelico in LA and Casandro in Chicago. That seems unfair to my friends in LA, but they’re certain to get a Lil Chicken who might be Mascarita Dorada on other days. Tickets are $45 at the Mayan in LA (no seats, same prices for everyone) and $25 GA to $150 for booths in Chicago. If anyone’s going, let me know.

Forjando un Idolo

I liked both of them. CMLL’s press release on the tournament says Guerrero Maya Jr. and Metal Blanco will fight tonight as a tie breaker. Winner is second place in Group Charly and meets Angel de Oro on Friday. Press release doesn’t mention it, but the website lists Rey Escorpion with 7 points, having won the final voting point.

Other Stuff

On this past week’s TV, Chessman did join Los Maniacos, but they’re now calling themselves La Maniarquia. Also, Dorian brought up Jeff Jarrett by name, so he’s for sure in. Sting? I’m guessing no, though that’d be a big deal.

Rey Escorpion says his son’s illness is “Legg-Calve-Perthes“, a disease attacking the hip which only happens to young boys. The boy has already had two operations, but Rey Escorpion needs to raise funds for a third. All the guys working the 05/21 show volunteered to work on the show (and Shocker will be signing autographs), and Rey Escorpion is grateful for their support.

Princesa Sujei will appear on the next DTU show. DTU’s only used AAA wrestlers prior, I thought they had announced Chessman vs Joe Lider for the next show, and CMLL’s not letting their people work on the same show as AAA people. Whatever the situation, DTU girls working with someone like Sujei is only good news for them.

Bestia 666 will be on the Urban Wrestling Federation show. For his level of experience, Bestia 666 has been perfectly fine (though he hasn’t been in much of a place to show in AAA.)

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Links

Lineups

CMLL (MON) 05/09/2011 Arena Puebla
1) Black Tiger & Centella de Oro vs Espiritu Maligno & King Jaguar
2) Lestat, Metálico, Starman vs Apocalipsis, Arissma, Inquisidor
3) Dark Angel, Goya Kong, Lluvia vs La Comandante, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sujei
4) La Máscara, Máscara Dorada, Máximo vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Texano
5) La Sombra, Rush, Toscano vs Atlantis, Dragón Rojo Jr., Último Guerrero

They got all the rudos on the right teams, hooray.

CMLL on CadenaTres #175 (04/09/2011)

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recap: here
YouTube: 1 2 (Astral/Pierrothito 4 min in) 3 4 (Valiente/Polvora starts here)5 6 7 8

taped @ Arena Mexico, 04/05/2011

I reviewed all the matches, but these are the matches that actually matter.

Pierrothito vs Astral for the Mexican National Lightweight Championship: Pierrothito looked great here, and Astral didn’t look bad, so Pierrothito must’ve been great. Crowd was way into the match, another testament to Pierrothito here. Much better than it should’ve been, would’ve liked to see more of it. Can’t believe Pierrothito was the only one who did a dive in this match. Would’ve liked to see a longer version of this match, but it might be possible that editing helped.

Valiente vs Pólvora for the Mexican National Welterweight Championship: Also much better than I would’ve expected, which is a testament to Valiente here. This is a good match, but the end of the third fall didn’t come together as well as I’d like. The Valiente Special is so important, it’s tough to believe the match is going to end until he pulls it out (maybe he’d be better off using that one early and saving the tope for late), and there was no real point after that dive where it felt like Polvora might actually win. Polvora had two moves that could win for him, the Polvora Driver (he won with in the first fall, never tried to go back for it) and the counter dropkick (which he landed, but made no attempt to win.) He could’ve used something else, but there was a missing portion where Polvora did use something else. Like in between Valiente his move the first time and the second time.

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Puebla, Valiente, Taichi

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CMLL (MON) 01/18 Arena Puebla [R de Rudo]
1) Mr. Rafaga & Policeman b Asturiano & SWAT
2) Bam Bam, Fantasy, Último Dragoncito b Pequeño Damian 666, Pequeño Universo 2000, Pequeño Violencia
3) Ángel de Oro, Ángel de Plata, Sagrado b Nitro, Nosferatu, Shigeo Okumura
4) Hijo del Fantasma, La Máscara, Valiente b Dragon Rojo Jr., Sangre Azteca, Vangelis
5) Felino, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero b La Sombra, Shocker, Volador Jr.

Felino & Niebla fouled Somnbra & Volador and got away with it for the win. Tecnicos demanded a super libre match. Seems like a tag team title match coming up here.

Vangelis replaced Misterioso II in the semimain, where Mascara got Sangre with the campana. Ultimo Dragoncito replaced Tzuki in the minis match.

Ovaciones and ESTO both preview tonight’s CMLL card. There’s no particular story going into this one, though maybe it should be Garza continuing his win streak heading into Friday.

Fuego en el Ring talks to Valiente, who’s now the only Valiente. Hijo de Valiente and Valiente Jr. (“children of a friend”) had talked about using the name, but never actually got permission. After CMLL pointed it out, Valiente asked them to stop. They also have interviews with Rambo, La Comadante (who figures she got a promotion in Pierroth’s army, causing the name change) and Okumura. Okumura says he and Naito have been brainstorming ideas for Taichi. Judging from Naito on this weekends 52MX show, Taichi should definitely be concerned. NJPW officially announced Taichi, was headed to CMLL for an excursion. No word on exactly how long he’s meant to be in CMLL for, but it should be a while.

Record, LuchandoLibre, ESTO and R de Rudos have reports on the Perros show.

There’s lots of photos of this weekend’s Tijuana show over on flickr.

A new lucha libre commissioner was sworn in, in Juarez.

Blue Demon Jr. will be appearing on ROH’s Charlotte show. Kind of a surprise, because he was not that popular last time ROH used him, but they wanted a lucha name to help draw latinos.

Box Y Lucha #2957 hypes more Konnan vs Cibernetico. Or maybe they’re it’s just meant as a warning.

Cronicas y Leyendas writes about Rey Misterio & Juvi in Japan, Cien Caras vs Salomon Grundy (slightly different matches), plus Pirata Morgan taking Masakre’s hair, and Solitario taking Atila’s mask.

Segunda Caida writes about IWRG 11/26/09 and KrisZ’s news update

10/11: Mexico, Rey Jr., lineups

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CMLL (FRI) 10/10 Arena Mexico [sololuchas, superluchas, La Afficon]
1) Sensei & Starman b Calígula & Méssala
2) Ángel Azteca Jr., Flash, Máscara Púrpura DQ Dr. X, Loco Max, Skandalo
3) Mictlán, Sagrado, Stuka Jr. b Dragon Rojo Jr., Ephesto, Mephisto
4) Heavy Metal, Lizmark Jr., Negro Casas b Hijo del Fantasma, Marco Corelone, Volador Jr.
5) Blue Panther, Dos Caras Jr., Héctor Garza b Atlantis, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero

Tecns won the main event in two falls, clean. After the match, the Villanos returned to attack Blue Panther. Dragon Rojo ran down for the save, then Ephesto and then finally Ultimo Gurerero decided to help out too. It seems the Lagunera guys have decided to rally around Blue Panther in his fight with the Villanos, which leaves three questions

1) all the guys who made a save were rudos – is Panther headed that way?
2) is this a one time, or an ongoing faction? What does this mean for the Guerreros?
3) Hooligan’s totally going to be involved, right? Please say yes.

In the semimain, the rudos got DQed for excessive violence, but they kept on going to win the second and the third (Lizmark foulding Corelone without the ref seeing it.)

Dragon Rojo replaced Virus, which makes sense in retrospect to get Dragon Rojo in the building to make his save. ESTO says Stuka replaced Valiente because Valiente is/was hurt from a head injury.

Skandalo grabbed Flash’s mask for the DQ in the second. Tecs took it in two.

Rey Misterio Jr. talked to Notimex. If there was a question about the recent Ovaciones stuff, it did not make it in here; this was more focused on the Dos Jr. rumors (Rey didn’t know if he was coming or not, but thinks he’s got the attributes to do well – he’d really love to have Perro Jr. in WWE though.) Rey’s NOT on next week’s WWE Mexico tour, since he’ll be with the RAW brand in Puerto Rico unless things change at the last minute. Rey’s was happy with RAW’s debut rating and fine with Televisa moving the show to a later hour, because it makes it “more flexible schedule”.

SoloLuchas interviews Bestia Negra, who talks a bunch about his pre-refereeing wrestling career. I wish SoloLuchas next page links were a bit more visible (or everything was just on one page, because you can apparently make them as long as you’d like.)

The next Dos y Tres magazine has the Psycho Circus on the cover.

Robert recaps 04/02/06 AAA, 04/16/06 CMLL and 04/20/06 IWRG

I guess Rockin’ Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu really is a bitch though b/c at the end of the fall he went for a slingshot somersault senton dive and HORRIBLY blew it.

CMLL (TUE) 10/14 Arena Mexico
1) Carrona & Cholo vs Molotov & Sombra de Plata
2) Calígula, Hooligan, Méssala vs Angel Azteca, Angel de Oro, Hijo del Faraon
3) Leono, Máscara Púrpura, Stuka Jr. vs Arkangel de la Muerte, Vangelis, Virus
4) a replacment for Alex Koslov, Máximo, Mictlán vs Dragon Rojo Jr., Ephesto, Olímpico
5) Héctor Garza, Hijo del Fantasma, La Máscara vs Misterioso II, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero

As you’ll see, they had no idea Koslov was jumping, because he’s booked like normal next week (and probably the weeks after.) Not really surprised they still put his name up in the lineups after the rest of the world knew, because they probably didn’t know.

Hey, look, Hector actually teaming with his former title partners after they’ve stop holding the titles! Could be there’s just no other top tecnicos on this card, but let’s pretend they planned it that way.

CMLL (FRI) 10/17 Arena Mexico
1) Axel, Flash, Metalik vs Loco Max, Nitro, Skandalo
2) Máximo, Sagrado, Valiente vs Felino, Heavy Metal, Sangre Azteca
3) a replacement for Alex Koslov, Dos Caras Jr., Héctor Garza vs Averno, Mephisto, Terrible
4) Blue Panther, Ephesto, Último Guerrero vs Villano III, Villano IV, Villano IV [ri]
5) Marco Corelone vs Lizmark Jr. [hair]

Lizmark is teasing a surprise for his second. (Lizmark Sr.?) Since it logically would’ve been Alex, I’d guess Marco’s second will be a surprise too. Hey Marco, just don’t pick Mistico, that worked out really poorly for the last guy who did that.

AAA tapings results in a little bit.