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CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-03-15


taped 2014-03-07 @ Arena México

This was a less interesting tournament.

Rey Escorpion is just leaving

Titan/Felino: Místico refused to fight Titan, then they teased the matchup, then they just fought like it was normal all within about 3 minutes. That’s like four months of matches in one tournament lucha. Felino & Titan got to do a little but this was much more for the other team.

Cometa/Polvora: Cometa and Pólvora got in trademark moves just to have them done, but Cometa got a knee to the gut on his tornillo and Pólvora had his special kicked out to no reaction, so maybe that wasn’t such a good idea.

Valiente/Vangellys: The one Valiente/Vangellys match just felt like guys doing random moves with nothing to them. Vangellys & Valiente basically worked as rudos; UG as a rudo in danger from another rudo kind of works, but there wasn’t enough Sombra/Valiente to get a feel for that.

Mistico La Nueva Era

La Mascara/Ephesto: La Mascara & Ephesto’s sole match was another getting in the spots as quick as possible situation – look, it’s Ephesto’s dive, it’s a campana tease, it’s a shoulderbreaker, etc. Mascara doesn’t have many spots so this worked out okay. The only advantage is I believe the early near falls, because there are only early near falls.

Místico/Reaper: Does Reapper’s snake have a name? Is it spelled differently every show like Reapper is? Místico and Escorpion had a stumble stating off and they were both kind of useless for a while, but still managed the dangerous headscissors to the floor. Every other team was generally on the same level, but Místico was treated like a big star and Reapper like just a guy.

Averno/Volador Jr.: Volador was the only one who seemed to work at changing his outfit each time out. Averno & Volador were the efficient team they were this time last year and it reminds me that I’m still not so sure why they’re enemies. Crowd, which was deathly quiet for this show, was their loudest for the Volador/Sombra face off. It’s not for a lack of doing big spots in this tournament – there were a ton of them in the second semifinal – but it came off as no one cared about them. Or maybe someone just turned crowd mic sound by accident, who knows.

Volador continues to try to detach Sombra’s head.

Ultimo Guerrero/Sombra: UG has to get in all his near falls even in a tournament, as always. This team probably had the two best matches of the tournament. Their semifinal with Averno & Volador was the last four months of a much longer and better imaginary match, and the final was the most complete story told in four minutes. Sombra switching to being ticked off mode right away helped, and they had some good people to work off.

Rey Escorpion & Maximo: Escorpion’s change from complete dismissal of Máximo to grudging respect was the best part of this tournament; I’m not sure if they planned it that way or Rey Escorpion is just smart enough to work it out. It was the only thing really connecting the matches and the only thing that made them seem meaningful.

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CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-03-08


taped 2014-02-28 @ Arena México
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CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-03-01


taped 2014-02-21 @ Arena México
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CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-02-22


Marcela will dropkick your anywhere


taped 2014-02-14 @ Arena México
Marcela vs Dalys in a lightning match: Marcela figured out the best way to get a good match out of Dalys is to hit her hard at every opportunity. At least that’s what seemed to be happen. Dalys is much more tolerable now that she’s no longer doing her técnico bits, and kept up with Dalys exceedingly well in this match. They fit a lot of action into six minutes and change.


I think I’ve got more out of these barricades than CMLL

Soberano Jr. & Volador Jr. vs Cavernario & Mr. Niebla in a CMLL Gran Alternativa Tournament final match: Pretty sure something(s) got screwed up with the third fall finish here, because I can’t believe anyone would think that sequence of events looked good. All I know is Soberano came off like a dummy. Barbaro Cavernario, for all his big win here, seemed surprising like a non factor for most of the matches. He got in a couple big moves and a couple big bumps, but there was a lot going on with Soberano and Mr. Niebla and not really much going on with Volador and Cavernario. Not really much going on with Barbaro and Soberano either. Soberano really had the stand out match of the two and came out looking like a bigger star; Cavernario just got the trophy.


caveman powerbombed back to the stone age

Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero: Match was edited to almost nothing. Only the third fall felt like were seeing a match and not highlights, and the total time was not much more than the lightning match. First fall was hilariously edited down to less than 30 seconds. I think the the announcement of the captains lasted longer. The time between falls definitely did. The replay spots at the end of the show also did. Dorada & Valiente’s dives were great there, though I’m surprised they did so much in the third fall if this is the start of the program. Gran Guerrero looks totally lost at times; they’re not doing him a service by putting him in a position he’s clearly not ready for, and he’s exposed every time you Euforia doing much better right there next to him. Euforia’s work on Mistico’s tope con giro into a headscissors was incredible. Really poor job by Babe Richard of being distracted for the finish – he ended up looking right at Ultimo Guerrero as he pulled off Mistico’s mask, then had to pretend he was temporarily blind.

Niebla bringing back the handspring reverse tope

flying death

Mistico suicide flip headscissors


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CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-02-15


Herodes is great!


Gran Alternativa, Block B!

Espiritu Negro: Espiritu Negro’s Shocker imitations trust was even more random than what Herodes did earlier. Espiritu didn’t really get to do much else, but he took a couple good bumps and seemed to go up easy for Sh–ocker’s finish. You can’t get much out of this.

Canelo Casas: stood on the apron for a very long time. Never seemed in danger of falling off the apron. Didn’t sell enough for Rush’s shots at first, eventually was hit harder by Rush. Some guys really got the short end of the stick.

topes everywhere

Black Panther: Black Panther also didn’t get to do a lot to do, but worked well with Azul in the little they got to do together. Black looks like a smaller size Azul.

Star Jr.: Star Boy’s whole match here was leading up to one big dive, and he had every single problem on that. That was too. Bad. Another day.

Dragon Lee: Everyone who doesn’t follow CMLL closely must be so confused about there being a Dragon Lee and Místico at the same time. (Was the IP so valuable they had to reuse the name?) Dragon Lee’s dive looks good, the hanging German suplex is going to end badly at some point. I didn’t feel like the original Dragon Lee had a lot of charisma, but this one just seem more like a random guy in a mask.


Hechicero: Hechicero was limited from doing too many crazy moves on the open and Barbaro seemed to screw up a move he was trying in the second, but he still generally set up UG well and bumped for the técnicos. Short tournament matches aren’t really the best use of him right now, and every match was a short tournament match.


Barbaro Caveranario: Barbaro and Azul trying to do spots was not the greatest idea; they struggled at the beginning and I don’t think the finish went quite right. There was a messed up spot with Hechicero in the second match, where UG seemed to take Barbaro around and talk to him after it. Barbaro did go impressively out of the ring soon after. Mr. Niebla seemed super motivated to work with him; he barely does the moonsault, but pulled out one to the floor here. Barbaro’s willingness to do the splash to the floor is impressive, but Herodes being eliminated by it was never explained. Barbaro’s win would’ve felt bigger if he actually got it by a countout at the end, but again the rookies played second fiddle to the existing stars.

caverman splash

Herodes: Herodes doing Shocker’s entrance behind him was the greatest thing. Herodes doing a snake dance upon facing Reaper was not bad either. He’s still got to improve on the wrestling part – he almost elbow dropped Reaper in the face to end the first match and his timing with Rush wasn’t great – but he’s good enough on the rest that other people should be able to help. He’s willing to get beat up pretty bad. I don’t know if I really trust the CMLL doctors if they let Herodes, who was in spasms selling the Rush Driver, to wrestle another match on the same show. He didn’t sell it at all in the second match, and they didn’t really play off the two partners being against each other. (Two guys being put on the same team one week and facing each other for the first time the next week is annoyingly familiar.)
match 7 gif: 804

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CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-02-08


Cachorro tope


taped 2014-01-31 @ Arena México

As usual, there’s no point in reviewing each match. It’s rare there’s a useful match on these tournament shows. I’ll recap each novato instead

There was nothing bad about Rebelde here, but I need to see more of him before having nay feeling about him. It was nice they got him a pinfall over Panther here. More real matches (or at least lightning tags) than past tournaments, though they’re also clearly edited.

Oro powerbomb on the apron

Akuma didn’t do much but get facesmashed by Sombra and give him his own finisher, which actually seemed to shake up Sombra a bit. He was down for far longer than normal and was still walking it off at the finish.

No time here for Hombre Bala Jr. to do much; they even cut in in mid move, then went right to his Destroyer. (The show ending video package showed he did get in his corner tope, but that was cut in the match footage. This was a longer than usual tournament.) This might have been his last chance to win; he should move up enough in 2014 not to really be belong in this next year.

first part goes better than the second

Espanto and Rebelde might have not advanced out of the first round, but they got free Avernos hoodie t-shirts for participating. Much like Espanto, this match was short, sometimes a mess, and very generic. (When kicking out of the middle rope Devil’s Wings doesn’t get a big reaction, you’ve done it too many times.) Espanto also might not make it back to this tournament next year, but it’s because he’s going the other way. CMLL debuting 8-10 new people a year means people are constantly getting pushed out of the way to make room; Espanto’s got to show something more this year or he’s in danger of ending up in Robin-land or worse.

Oro springboard tope

Cachorro reversals of the Devil’s Wings wasn’t nearly as smooth as his father (few are), but they booked him like a guy who knows how to sneak out wins he shouldn’t get. Using him as the anti-Misterioso would be an interesting way to set him apart. His short bit as a Tiger-like rudo in the second match was good, though it also seemed like his father was literally calling spots for him at times. (“Bite the foot, son!” may not be an actual quote.)

Guerrero Negro had a good look for once. Soberano was a really good fit for him. He looked strong throwing around the lightest guy in the division and set up Soberano’s moves well. He didn’t do anything super memorable in this tournament but did well for what he was asked

Volador treats Oro’s head like a pinata

The Soberano/Volador Spider-Man outfits looked great, and it actually made Soberano look less skinny. Soberano’s standing moonsault into a double knee drop on Mephisto, not as much. These two did a lot of teasing of certain loss, including one of moment where they were doomed in every round. It was more dramatic than these matches are usually allowed to be. Other things were more to form – of course we got the double stage dive, though Soberano maybe needs to work on his form if he ever tries that again. (And of course it lead to the other team just walking to the ring and getting their own dives.)

Oro has a Mascara Dorada like willingness to take big abuse; the powerbomb onto the apron looked not fun. I thought he looked like the more elegant high flyer than Soberano, but then I always think that. He seemed a little limited when he started repeating moves in just the second match and it would’ve been nice if he brought out his submission finish, but both he and Soberano held together well in the kickout filled block final. I also enjoyed how Sombra set Blue Panther up in a faraway spot, so he wouldn’t be reliant on anyone having to remember to roll. Better. Sombra seemed to be in an unhappy mood

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CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-02-01


Dragon Rojo in one gif


taped 2014-01-24 @ Arena México
Máximo, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Misterioso Jr., Rey Escorpión: Máximo/Rey Escorpion build up, which seemed to exist just to remind you they might get around to it someday. Now day. I don’t know if I had no patience or if this was too slow, but it really dragged the first couple falls and the comeback felt super casual. Everyone ended up doing what they usually do but I was forgetting this match as it was happening. Rudos just stood around to let the técnicos do things to them, it was nice of them. Third fall was more interesting. Titan’s offense is much more slap based when wrestling Misterioso and more deadly DDT on the apron with Escorpion, funny how that works.


apron DDT

La Sombra, Rush, Shocker vs Averno, Mephisto, Negro Casas: Good bit to get over the Shocker turn; there was no mistaking or dragging it out, he was after Rush from the moment they got to the ring (and Rush was still hurt from Shocker forcing the bar on to his chest!) Negro Casas was the happiest man in the world to see Shocker and Rush fighting each other. Sombra, Averno and Mephisto occasionally tried to have a match here, but this was really short and just about the turn.


Brillo Dorado

Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Volador Jr. vs Niebla Roja, Reaper, Último Guerrero: Good main event, though not a lot to it. A moment for the tencicos to show off while the rudos still get the win. Mascara Dorada makes tricky aeral moves look amazingly easy in this match. While CMLL is creating vignettes, I hope they do one about why all the técnicos suddenly love Volador Jr. – Dorada going with the half mask here was kind of good.

triple dive

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CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-01-25


maybe don’t try this with Diamante Azul

taped 2014-01-17 @ Arena México
Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Super Porky vs Ephesto, Euforia, Pierroth: Edited version of a not good match. Guerrero Maya versus Euforia could be fun, but they’re split up to give Super Porky & Pierroth have someone decent to work with and definitely not do much with each other. Pierroth remains bad, kneeling in the ring for a minute (instead of getting out or selling), waiting for his next spot. Ephesto seems to screw up a senton to end the first fall , Delta overshoots his moonsault; there were plenty of other problems with this match. I still can’t figure out how Ephesto gets cut in this match.

Averno, Rey Bucanero, Terrible vs Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, La Máscara: Right team won, at least. Unnoteworthy match except for Diamante Azul nearly killing himself in the third fall. Azul hasn’t been around much and hasn’t used that time to get more interesting, but just taking the normal stuff was a big problem for him. First fall seemed edited (or Averno sent a new personal record for speed of losing to Mascara) and second fall featured Terrible transporting from the ramp to the center of the ring on a camera switch.

Atlantis, Shocker, Valiente vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas: This one starts off as build up to Mr. Niebla & Atlantis (building up a match I already watched, oops) but Shocker and Negro Casas are the more interesting battle and the one that decides it. Shocker has since become a rudo so I guess that match probably wouldn’t happen, but I hope they find a way to it anyway. Shocker looked much more energetic versus Casas and they did enough to make a singles match really interesting. This match was very short for a main event.

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CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-01-18


triple dive


taped 2014-01-10 @ Arena Mexico
Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Kráneo, Mr. Águila, Reaper: The same Estetas/Invasors match they’ve been doing the last few months, only a bit shorter because of edits for time (and because it only took two topes to take down Kraeno this match.) The editing means you’re probably best off finding one of those other matches, unless you want to see Místico lose in the clutch.


Volador rearranged Casas’ face

Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas: Good, but last week’s was better. Volador has a mindset of spots he’s got to get in and there’s not a lot of variety to it – not even which ones or what order. I prefer more creative matches in general, but it didn’t help him here when he asked Negro Casas to do things he was unlikely to do well (Spanish Fly!) Volador did seem to add the headbutts to spice things up but he didn’t seem to take advantage of working with Negro Casas as much as he could’ve outside of the chop/boot spots. The Sunday match was more fun (for the Zacarias wackiness), though the crowd seemed a little more receptive to Volador as a técnico here. This was a good match suffering among some better ones.

Casas almost goes over the barrier on his own silla

Atlantis, La Máscara, Máximo vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto: Again, having the average trios match after the big singles match is an anti-climatic finish to the show, but this one appeared to be a change in plans to get the Volador/Casas match on Terra without putting on the whole card. That almost suggests CMLL’s deal with Fox doesn’t allow them to air the full card, because there’s no other reason to ‘protect’ this very usual Hijos del Averno versus técnicos match. More interestingly, it suggests CMLL believes airing a match on Terra is actually important – I am fairly certain no significant amount of people are watching those shows (guessing under 1000, and that may be way high), but they’re planning that show like it matters. I dunno. Anyway, this match has all the spots you’d expect – the star, the Averno doing their triple rolling pose to set up técnicos dives, Máximo trying to kiss people, Máximo actually kissing people – done fine.


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CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-01-11

Titan as Blue Panther (Negro Casas as Negro Casas)


taped 2014-01-03 @ Arena Mexico
Máximo, Shocker, Super Porky vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Tiger: Of the many TRT matches lately, this is definitely the one with the most edited fall fall. Not one did anything horrible but this was pointless. This is still a promotion putting the live show first; TV really needed a shorter match they got here. JCR’s claim of TRT being top contenders to both trios titles falls a tiny bit flat when they seem to lose a lot of these.


Titan loses via gravity

Titán vs Negro Casas in CMLL’s Leyenda de Plata Tournament final match: EXCELLENT. I’m surely going to put Titan on this list so many times again in 2014, but it’s going to be tough to beat this one. Negro Casas was superb in working with him, giving him enough to think Titan was actually going to pull off the upset (again!) and in putting him over after the match. (It feels unfair to compare this to Ultimo Guerrero’s performance against Valiente, but it’s also very obvious.) Titan more than held his side of the bargain in way few guys his age on this roster would’ve been able to; this wasn’t the crazy spectacle with Niebla Roja, but one with plans and strategies that lasted more than a move, and counters that were actually surprising and organic. That’s stuff Titan does with the right guy, and Negro Casas is the right guy for everyone. I thought this felt short watching it live, but it’s more a case of it just flying by for being fun.


Valiente Especial

Máscara Dorada, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Averno, Mephisto, Último Guerrero: Main event formula – triple dive spot, everyone gets a big move but someone else breaks it up, rudos fail at a triple team and técnicos all get cradles but it doesn’t work. Generally good but generally the same as other matches with different offense plugged in. Volador & Ultimo Guerrero doing the Shocker & Ultimo Guerrero reverse casadora spot is amusing since Volador is the new Shocker (but missing some of that self confidence.) I was surprised UG took the top rope headscissors at the end, but Volador needed that.

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