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taped 2014-02-04 @ Arena México
Pequeño Halcón & Último Dragoncito vs Mercurio & Pequeño Warrior: Pequeño Warrior tried to claim a foul on armdrag, and even the referee didn’t care. This turned into a usual Pequeño Warrior goofing around match for stretches and was an okay match for other stretches. Nothing not involving him went too wrong, but there wasn’t too much to it. Shorter match than usual for minis, though maybe not for an opener.
Oro Jr., Soberano Jr., Starman vs Disturbio, El Rebelde, Hijo del Signo: Good for the level. Oro & Soberano both looked good with their bigger spots. Hijo del Signo did better job working with them than I was expecting, and Disturbio was solid as usual. Glad he’s keeping the bald head for the moment. This was a better read on Rebelde than the Gran Alternativa match. I was wondering if he’d be a guy who takes crazy falls like his father. Rebelde managed to nearly fall on his head twice in this match, so that seems like a yes. He’s going to be fun if he lives. Starman seemed slow or just didn’t have great timing, he’s been better in other matches.
Fuego, Hombre Bala Jr., Súper Halcón Jr. vs Espiritu Negro, Guerrero Negro Jr., Shigeo Okumura: This was a fun tercera. The top three are all good matches but this was my favorite. Espiritu Negro dressing in all white for his first match was weird. Espiritu Negro doing the Black Warrior hamstring flip bump was near. He also helped Guerrero Negro get revenge on Super Halcón by using one of the Gen11 moves on him, so good debut. The match did fall apart for a moment in the second fall (when Espiritu fell too soon on a dropkick and Guerrero nearly did a senton onto Bala’s head) but was generally good. It’s amusing Bala has a top rope version of his corner headbutt, but the normal one actually looks cooler. Fuego seems more confident since coming back from Japan and the crowd was actually chanting for him; I don’t know what they should do with Fuego, but they really should be doing something.
Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Máximo vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Virus: This was another good match, but the crowd seemed to die sometime in the third fall. I don’t know if they thought it was over with the kiss, but there was a weird lack of noise for guys wrestling the same level the rest of the match. There was nothing noteworthy about this match, everyone was good, but Niebla Roja is another guy I hope gets a bigger chance in 2014 because we haven’t seen what he can do in a feud in a while.
Rey Cometa, Rush, Titán vs Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla: Rush is an unprompted jerk to Tirantes and pays for it. Rush is an amazing técnico. Mr. Niebla playing mentor to Cavernario is so great for both characters. Cavernario generally did well here, though there was at least one point where he was not in the right position for Cometa and the slide to the floor needs a little bit of work. (It’s a good idea for him.) The Titan/Barbaro opening section went better than I would’ve figured. It didn’t feel like Rey Cometa got a whole to do here, but the Brillo Cometa looked superb. It seems like they’re setting up a trios match, but I’d be alright seeing the Niebla/Rush singles match from this.
taped 2014-01-21 @ Arena México
Dragon Lee, Pegasso, Star Jr. vs Cancerbero, Hechicero, Raziel: Good match, more entertaining than most matches at this position. Hechicero fit in well with the Cancerberos; maybe too well, because they’re not moving up any time soon and Hechicero should be on a higher level. Going with a wacky swing based offense was as neat as the first fall mat work. Star Jr. definitely looked better than Dragon Lee at this point, though Dragon Lee really lowered the bar in the third fall. Don’t try to repeat your blown spot with Cancerbero or he will destroy you! (Credit for Dragon Lee for getting a takedown in on the bigger man, and credit Raziel for backing up his partner and settling things down.) This match was also weirdly entertaining for both Hechicero and Dragon Lee learning the weird CMLL tag team rules – Hechicero was totally confused as to why his tag wasn’t legal in the first fall, and Dragon Lee had no idea why he was being yelled at for helping make a cover.
Black Panther, Cachorro, Valiente vs Felino, Puma, Tiger: Another good match in this feud. Valiente & Felino brought something different than Panther & Casas, but it still worked well. Puma & Tiger seemed to control most of the match and looked good doing so. Died laughing when Puma and Tiger did their series of crackers and powerbombs on Valiente – and then didn’t bother to pin him. Had to get in their pose! Cachorro & Black Panther still look very good for rookies. They were more limited here and they’re going to have to face someone besides Puma & Tiger at some point, but that feud is working well for them right now.
La Máscara, Rush, Titán vs Terrible, Vangelis, Virus: Titan learned an important lesson here: don’t touch Virus’ hair. This a very good/borderline great match. First fall was superb and the rest of the match went along at a good pace. It never got off track and didn’t have many bad moments. Virus and Titan actually didn’t feel like they fought as much as I’d expect to set up next week’s match, but most of the match was building to just that and was sharp enough to want you to see it. Rush was great just teasing getting into the ring. Rush and Terrible was on against each other too. If they ran another Terrible/Rush hair match, I don’t know if it would draw better, but it would feel twice as big at this point.
Blue Panther vs Negro Casas: Probably the best match on a lot of other Tuesdays but not this week. Their brawling was good but not as good as other brawls, and the match was hampered by the referee inserting himself in the action quiet a bit. It made more sense when they were doing actually illegal spots later on, but he was breaking up holds from the start and the repetitive intervention hurt the match from having any rhythm. I guess they’re building to a genuine no disqualification match here, should they actually be building to anything specific, but it made for a frustrating match here for most of the time. They seemed just to be getting into a long end game when the run-in happened. Crowd was not into the match as much as you’d expect, but very much into the post match feuding.
taped 2014-01-14 @ Arena Mexico
Leono & Magnus vs Apocalipsis & Cholo: Bad, one of the worse openers in some time. The end of the first fall was embarrassingly for all involved and the rest didn’t get much better. Comeback was not too smooth and I’m not sure if something got edited in the third fall or if Magnus was supposed to get in no offense before the finish. I don’t have high standards for some of these guys but everyone could’ve done better.
Oro Jr., Robin, Stigma vs Espanto Jr., Herodes Jr., Inquisidor: Congrats to Inquisidor for finding another big set up to do a front cracker. I would fine these guys every time they use a Canadian Destroyer in the first fall of a segunda, but they’re probably not paying them much to begin with. Still, Espanto Jr. can do all sorts of moves but has no idea which ones to do or how to get himself across; Herodes is still greener in the ring but is going to be zooming right past him. Match was wrapping up fine until Tiger Hispano decided not to count three on the third fall planned finish, and everyone runs half lost for two more minutes to come up with a new one. Inquisidor and Robin were better at improvising than Herodes and Stigma.
Hombre Bala Jr., Sagrado, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Cancerbero, Guerrero Negro Jr., Raziel: Bad refereeing night continues with Tirantes completely missing Raziel putting his outside foot on the bottom ropes in the third fall. That was clearly not supposed to be an elimination, because Raziel just kept wrestling and Tirantes did his usual bit of reacting to a loud voice in his earpiece. (The kids in the previous match did a better job of handling it.) Raziel was rather angry about it after the match. The match itself had some good moments and not smooth moments; the first fall mat work had a few weird looking spots which may have not meant to be so weird. There was still good stuff here, they just need a bit more work. Guerrero Negro fit in fine enough; I’d be totally okay with a mask vs hair feud with Sagrado before Guerrero Negro goes off to get the new non-indy-looking gimmick he really needs.
Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger vs Black Panther, Blue Panther, Cachorro: Payoff to all the bad refereeing – one where the referee is supposed to do a bad job! This was much more of a brawl then the previous week’s match, which might have actually worked out better for the young Panthers. They again did surprisingly well, helped by working with the Casas (and a very planned out match) but obviously bringing something to the table themselves. The crowd was really into Negro/Blue specifically, but this is a good feud for everyone. Here’s the “oh, duh” way of telling the Panthers apart – Cachorro means ‘cub’, as in small bear. The guy who’s name implies small is in fact the smaller one. It’s almost like they planned that.
Delta, Super Porky, Valiente vs Boby Zavala, Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora: A Super Porky match; I spent way too much of this match trying to figure out if Dragon Rojo had lost weight. (Maybe? I’m not sure, which is why it took so long.) Weird layout with the rudos starting the beatdown, losing the first fall anyway, the rudos continue the beatdown unimpeded, the técnicos make another comeback the end of the second fall, then lose that fall anyway. It was reversals of expectations for the sake of reversing them. Zavala got to work with Delta & Valiente and very little with Brazo de Plata outside of getting a surprise pinfall on Porky. That was a surprise to me, and he handled himself well with two tricky guys. Delta actually landed the moonsault well, another surprise.
taped 2014-01-07 @ Arena Mexico
Camaleón, Oro Jr., Soberano Jr. vs Artillero, Canelo Casas, Súper Comando: This was a disguised opener match for the first half, but got more interesting when the rudos took over and pulled off their double teams. Third fall went well too – Oro even got to do a dive! – but it seemed like something went wrong about a minute before the finish and it wasn’t as sharp as planned. It looked like an innocent Camaleon dropkick to break up a Super Comando pin threw him off for a moment. There were a lot scarier looking things in this one – Oro’s freefall to the floor in the first, and Canelo’s positioning on the splashed second. It seemed like he was for sure getting squashed by his partners, but they knew what they were doing and worked fine with the four less experienced guys here. Hope they get more chances at this matchup because it has potential.
Negro Casas, Puma, Tiger vs Black Panther, Blue Panther, Cachorro: Nice match to debut in for the new Panthers. You got more of a sense of them then in the Copa Junior last week, and they had some people who can cover up for their weaknesses, plus a reason for the crowd to care about the match right away. They were excited the moment Negro Casas stepped in the ring. Cachorro seems Super Halcón/Hombre Bala sized, but Black Panther is way bigger (and more muscular) than most técnicos outside his level, and uses more of a stronger rudo style. He might ultimately be better of being on the rudo side. They both need to work on their timing, and there were issues that Casas family were able to get past here but other rudos might not be, but this was a fun good match to start out with.
Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Shocker vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Euforia, Niebla Roja: Shocker feuding with Barbaro Cavernario is too random even for the CMLL booking hat. Barbaro did deserve a beating by interfering in the first fall about a million times and livened up a match that was not otherwise that memorable. Tecnicos didn’t do interesting things and rudos were not as sharp as normal. Guerrero Maya’s post match strut was hilariously awful, for the one second we saw of it.
Rush, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Virus: The Rush/Terrible stuff was on a different level than the rest of the match and made it feel like a main event enough though it wasn’t the usual names. The other guys were fine but those two had something more. Titan using the inverted Gori stretch is a cool idea, but he’s got to be a 100 times more careful dropping the guy after it – he came close to really messing Virus up, and it was only luck that it didn’t turn out worse. He lost his balance dropped Virus very carelessly.
taped 2014-01-01 @ Arena Mexico
Pegasso, Sagrado, Sensei vs Puma, Raziel, Sangre Azteca: Though the first fall and half of this was pretty good, but it lost it’s momentum with the second fall DQ (a very quick 10 count for too many rudos in the ring for too long) and the third fall was more ordinary. Puma was over the top in his protest of the DQ and seemed to annoy Tirantes something fierce, but played to the crowd well the rest of the match.
Hombre Bala Jr. vs Súper Halcón Jr., Dragon Lee, Oro Jr., Stigma, Robin, Guerrero Negro Jr., Canelo Casas, Black Panther, Hijo del Signo, Cachorro, Herodes Jr. in La Copa Junior: Good cibernetico given the guys involved. Black Panther and Cachorro seem to have potential but both also seem still very green. Dragon Lee wasn’t in long enough to really tell. Canelo Casas did fine for his biggest match yet. It didn’t feel like Hombre Bala got to do much here. Halcón appeared to need to lift someone onto his shoulder to do any move; he probably could use a bit more variety. Last bunch of eliminations were super quick; just one move and eliminated until they gave the final two a little time.
La Máscara, Máximo, Valiente vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas: Standard Peste Negra match for the holiday crowd. It was total formula and keeping it easy – no Valiente dive, many Mascara superkicks, Máximo comedy – plus some interacting with the crowd. Puma cheering on his dad was fun.
Mephisto vs Atlantis for the Mexican National Light Heavyweight Championship: Good match, better than I thought it would be. Action was slow early and Mephisto didn’t seem to have the same cardio as his much older rival, but they got it to feel dramatic by the third. Atlantis doesn’t do a lot but what he does still looks good, and he took that finish like a champ.
taped 2013-12-25 @ Arena Mexico
Leono & Metálico vs Akuma & Zayco: A routine opening match with one psycho Zayco bump to the floor. He should’ve just stayed on the floor and been counted out forever after that, but he came in in after a minute or so for some random near falls. No one showed much but this was a match to show a lot.
Astral, Eléctrico, Último Dragoncito vs Demus 3:16, Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico: Felt like a more active minis match than other ones of late. Maybe it was the same amount of action in less time, but it was more fun match to watch . Finishing sequence was not good.
Molotov, Starman, Stigma vs Canelo Casas, Hijo del Signo, Shigeo Okumura: Canelo pins captain Starman about 3 minutes into the second fall. Only, he’s clearly not supposed to have pinned him – Tirantes counted too fast, Starman didn’t get shoulder up. Tirantes tries to end the match, only the rudos argued they didn’t actually win the match! Everyone generally ignored Tirantes and went along to do get in their spots and luckily Tirantes went along with it (though he appeared to receive a loud message in his earpiece between falls – when he finally put it back in.) This aired! I’m glad it did because I don’t what I’d write about this match otherwise. I was unconvinced by Canelo Casas finish, or that it was a move at all.
Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Valiente vs Euforia, Felino, Pierroth: Short match, even granted the problems of the online feed. (They didn’t seem to join this one so late, it was just a quick match.) Guys generally seemed to be trying while there were out there. Delta seemed slower than usual. Pierroth remains bad and not a good fit for this match. I’m not sure which match he’d be a good fit for, but I fear they’ll keep giving him matches until they figure it out.
Atlantis, La Máscara, Titán vs Averno, Mephisto, Rey Escorpión: Normal build up trios match, focusing on Atlantis/Mephisto with the other four guys getting in spots in between. I would’ve liked to see a more full out match with these guys to make it memorable, but they were still fine at this level. The visual of Atlantis’s ripped mask still around his head as he wore the replacement one was nice.
taped 2013-12-17 @ Arena Mexico
Estrellita, Goya Kong, Marcela vs Dalys, La Seductora, Princesa Blanca: Usual women’s match, with an entertaining (if not always good) técnica section and a not as fun ruda section because it’s tough to do much with these técnicas. Princesa Blanca was great for her counter kick to Marcela and for breaking out a runway walk for no apparent reason; those two had a couple good exchanges. The rest were trying. I was very concerned Seductora was about to die on the powerbomb/sunset flip reversal spot, and I had not heard about because it’s Seductora. Please do not do that again.
Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Morphosis, Mr. Águila, Ripper: About as one sided a match as CMLL will do. I don’t think it’s possible for them to book a two fall match where a team gets cleanly beat both falls, so one where they cheat to win a second fall feels dominant. Tecnicos spend the majority of the match selling for the Invasors, which makes some sense if the Invasors are (suddenly) supposed to be top guys. This is a fair result if CMLL is looking at the big picture; I’m still having trouble believing CMLL is actually doing that. It only works if they bring these results up elsewhere, which doesn’t seem to happen. Easily skipable in isolation.
La Sombra, Rush, Super Porky vs Gran Guerrero, Rey Bucanero, Último Guerrero: Could’ve been an interesting match on another day, but this was a Tuesday match before may of these guys were disappearing for a few weeks and worked as such. Heavy on the Porky comedy (who’s looking very heavy himself.) Amusing to see Tirantes have no problem with Rush and Sombra pile on top of the técnicos in the second fall for the Porky win, when he shooed the other women out of the ring on the same exact spot two matches prior.
Rey Escorpión vs Máximo for the CMLL World Light Heavyweight Championship: They got to a good place in the last couple of minutes. Sadly, this was a seventeen minute match. Máximo and Rey Escorpion working a technical style didn’t work out well at all in the first fall. Maximo’s routines get repeated too often, but he’s not the same guy when he plays it straight. Escorpion’s had better days himself; every other singles match he head in 2013 was better than this.
taped 2013-12-10 @ Arena Mexico
Bengala & Metatrón vs Cholo & Zayco: formula opener, just quicker and with a random DQ. There’s been more early match random disqualified of late, which probably means absolutely nothing. Smoother than some openers but not very complicated.
Metálico, Molotov, Sensei vs Disturbio, Hijo del Signo, Nosferatu: Wrong team won! Metálico was a lot of fun, probably the best vet who’s stuck in the bottom third of the card, and so he lost to Hijo del Signo in one of their few interactions in the match. Metálico was still the most charismatic man her by a mile. Match was generally okay generally a Tuesday night segunda.
Fuego, Soberano Jr., Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Hooligan, Sangre Azteca: Sobearno’s Fan Club making noise was a nice change of pace, though it also made clear how little noise the rest of the show was getting. Fuego and hooligan did some fun stuff early, and the rest of the match was sound. Stigma’s dive to the outside into Sangre’s feet looked like not a lot of fun. Soberano and Stigma did fine in tercera appearance, but it was about the same guys they were working against in segundas; it’s a shallow show.
Blue Panther, Shocker, Thunder vs Felino, Mr. Águila, Tiger: Match started some what interesting and then became less so as the match went on. Shocker/Tiger feuding was a halfway decent idea that didn’t develop. Thunder is barely in the matches. Aguila is barely in the matches, though he’s in the ring for a lot longer.
Diamante Azul, La Sombra, Máximo vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Mr. Niebla, Rey Escorpión: Back to a normal Máximo/Rey Escorpion feud, which is okay but nothing extraordinary. Sombra’s first match back from Japan had him doing a lot of spots he saw there, but the second fall finish looked great. Post match promos were very hard to decipher.