11/02-04 lucha videos

No IWL this week. La Lucha se Le Hace did not air. Busca was a rerun. Terra had video problems on Sunday – the first match is clipped, the second match has weird video issues. IWRG aired an hour early here for no apparent reason; it was not pleasant to flip to the channel to see money being thrown in the ring at the just ending match.

Terra from Friday night had some issues the first time I put it up, but I believe I fixed it.

I’m going to post the Azteca America stuff, if turns out to be new stuff. (I already have a backup YouTube channel ready for when this gets me in trouble.)

YouTube Playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2I0JwI23A_UoF0HOYGEaFfpb_QDKCdgI

11/02 WWC: http://www.sendspace.com/file/gq3s99
11/03 WWC: http://www.sendspace.com/file/9zdv1m

AAA on UTDN: 2013-10-31
taped 2013-10-18 @ Gimnasio Miguel Hidalgo de Puebla
Brazo tribute
1) El Mesías vs Monsther Clown and Silver King and Fénix for the Copa Antonio Pena and in a tournament semifinal match
2) Octagón vs Hijo del FantasmaDagaAxel for the Copa Antonio Pena and in a tournament semifinal match
3) La Parka vs Parka Negra IIElectroshockMáscara Año 2000 Jr. for the Copa Antonio Pena and in a tournament semifinal match
4) Cibernético vs el Hijo del Perro Aguayo and Psicosis and Chessman for the Copa Antonio Pena and in a tournament semifinal match
5) Fénix vs Hijo del FantasmaLa ParkaChessman for the Copa Antonio Pena

CMLL on Terra: 2013-11-01
taped 2013-11-01 @ Arena Mexico
Full Show: http://depositfiles.com/files/14wxjnxbo
1) Soberano Jr. & Súper Halcón Jr. vs Cancerbero & Raziel
2) Goya Kong, Marcela, Silueta vs Dalys, La Seductora, Tiffany
3) Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Titán vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
4) Blue Panther, Shocker, Thunder vs Euforia, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
Thriller dance

AAA on Televisa: 2013-11-02
taped 2013-10-18 @ Gimnasio Miguel Hidalgo de Puebla
1) Crazy Boy & Joe Lider vs Angélico & Jack Evans and Dark Scoria & Dark Spíritu and Aerostar & Drago for the AAA World Tag Team Championship

2) Psycho Clown vs Texano Jr. for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-11-02
Full Show: http://www.sendspace.com/file/x2cxxo
taped 2013-10-22 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Black Metal, Esfinge, Leo vs Espectrum, Hooligan, Nitro
taped 2013-10-27 @ Arena Mexico
2) Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Namajague, Puma, Tiger
3) Mistico, Rush, Titán vs Averno, Mephisto, Volador Jr.

CMLL on CadenaTres: 2013-11-02
taped 2013-10-29 @ Arena Mexico
1) Leono & Robin vs Apocalipsis & Ramstein
2) Aéreo, Bam Bam, Último Dragoncito vs Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pequeño Warrior
3) Fuego, Pegasso, Sagrado vs Boby Zavala, Sangre Azteca, Virus
Stellar Moments
4) Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión
5) La Sombra, Máscara Dorada, Super Porky vs Morphosis, Mr. Águila, Volador Jr.

CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2013-11-02
taped 2013-10-25 @ Arena Mexico
1) Ángel de Oro, La Máscara, Stuka Jr. vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
Midsh0w Intro
2) Blue Panther, Máximo, Mistico vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
3) La Sombra, Rush, Thunder vs Tama Tonga, Terrible, Vangellys

CMLL on Terra: 2013-11-03
taped 2013-11-03 @ Arena Coliseo
Full Show: http://depositfiles.com/files/1sc0cluso
1) Metálico & Sensei vs Akuma & Herodes Jr.
2) Sagrado, Starman, Stigma vs Camorra, Hooligan, Nitro
3) Stuka Jr., Super Porky, Tritón vs Felino, Olímpico, Pierroth
4) Namajague & Shigeo Okumura vs Delta & Guerrero Maya Jr. for the Arena Coliseo (DF) Tag Team Championship
5) La Máscara, Máximo, Shocker vs Tama Tonga, Terrible, Volador Jr.
6) Mephisto vs Titán for the Mexican National Light Heavyweight Championship

CMLL Puebla: 2013-11-03
taped 2013-10-21 @ Arena Puebla
1) Black Tiger & Paris vs Ares & Toro Bill Jr.
2) Astral, Eléctrico, Último Dragoncito vs Pequeño Violencia, Pierrothito, Saurón
3) Estrellita, Goya Kong, Marcela vs Amapola, Dallys la Caribeña, Princesa Blanca
4) Máximo, Rush, Titán vs Tama Tonga, Terrible, Vangellys
5) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión for the CMLL World Trios Championship

IWRG Zona XXI: 2013-11-03
taped 2013-10-31 @ Arena Naucalpan
3) Trauma I & Trauma II vs El Hijo del Medico Asesino & Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. for the IWRG Intercontinental Tag Team Championship

4) Dr. Cerebro, Extreme Tiger, Relámpago vs Eterno, Fuerza Guerrera, X-Fly

Noches de Coliseo: 2013-11-03
taped 2013-10-22 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Black Metal, Ciber Payaso, Mortifero vs Euforia, Genocida, Jessy El Vasco
taped 2013-10-27 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey 
2) Pequeno Flamer, Red Flamer, Red Flamer Jr. vs Coyote Jr., Darling Boy, Pedro Navajas

3) Muerte Guerrera, Sexy Francis, Sexy Maciel, Simbolo vs Dulce Kanela, Erika Sotelo, Rico Rodriguez, Sexy Piscis

AAA on Televisa (Regional): 2013-11-03
taped 2013-10-18 @ Gimnasio Miguel Hidalgo de Puebla
1) El Elegido, Faby Apache, Octagoncito, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Dark Cuervo, Mamba, Mary Apache, Mini Abismo Negro


AAA on UTDN: 2013-10-10


taped 2013-09-22 @ Domo del Deportivo Plan Sexenal, Distrito Federal
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11/03 AAA TV Results (Tonala)

AAA TV (SUN) 11/03/2013 Domo de Parque Solidaridad, Tonala, Jalisco [AAA, Black Terry Jr. (flickr)]
1) Mary Apache, Mini Psycho Clown, Taya Valkyrie b Faby Apache, Jennifer Blake, Mascarita Sagrada
Cuervo again interfered to cost Faby the match. Post match promos, including Cuervo offering money for Faby’s hair again, set up a Faby/Jennifer vs Mary/Taya match with hair on the line.
2) Aerostar, Ludxor, Venum b Carta Brava Jr., El Apache, Pentagón Jr.
The new Cadetes del Espacio won in their debut (and have one more win than the CMLL version.) Venum & Ludxor pulled of a double spanish fly (or an original Spanish Fly) for the win.
3) Eterno, Juventud Guerrera, Steve Pain b Angélico, Australian Suicide, Jack Evans
The Anarquia won in their debut, Juvi winning with Final Justice.
4) Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Dark Spíritu b Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown
Secta challenged for a trios title shot after the win. Psycho Circus accepted if it could be an extreme match.
5) AJ Styles b El Mesías [TNA HEAVY]
Angelico was AJ’s second, Jack was Mesias’ second. Chessman, Fantasma and Texano ran in to disrupt the match, but the tecnicos ran them off. The idea was Mesias was hurt more by the attack, and Styles ended up winning with his calf slicer leg submission. Second defense for Styles.
6) Chessman, Hijo del Fantasma, Texano b Cibernético, el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Fénix
Hijo de Fantasma was the unlisted luchador, as had been mentioned a few days prior. Fantasma pinned Fenix for the win.

Air Date: 11/09 and 11/16. Attendance looks pretty good.

Fenix’s “big push to the main event” is more “they needed someone to lose to the new guy”, which we probably should’ve seen coming. Still, maybe he had a good match before hand.

A wrestler defending a championship that’s not recognized by any promotion? AJ Styles fit in perfectly in Mexico. Judging from the pictures, they set up the run-in with a Konnan/Styles confrontation backstage. I’ve said this an annoying amount of times, but I hate it when AAA does angles where Konnan orders the lead rudos around. Texano’s world champion and that’s supposed to be a big deal, but he doesn’t seem that important if some one else ordering him around – Texano’s needs to have his own agency at all times. (Even though he still won the main event, this is also way too soon for Fantasma to be unsuccessful at anything.) Maybe it all comes off much better than it sounds. It’s very clear from the recap that the idea behind the run-in was to give Mesias an excuse in losing, since he’s going to be the guy who’s staying here and Styles may never be back to even the score. It’s better than a top guy losing clean to a guy who’s never coming back, but I hope AAA’s getting more out of this than that.

Still, sounds good debuts for both Juvi and Aerostar’s new groups. Two new trios and the La Secta/Psycho Circus feud will hopefully open up the trios titles to be more than “Psycho Circus and whoever they’re feuding with.”

I’m really not sure how many hairs are supposed to be on the line in that tag match. I thought it was said one last night, but it was actually said two on Facebook last night. I think one is more likely – mostly because there’s only person in this match who might actually get their hair cut – but wait and find out more.

I think there’s a 65% chance Ozz & Cuervo were announced for an AJPW tour they’re not going on (and may have never been meant to go on.)

Next taping is 11/15 in Queretaro, continuing the one week on/one week off pattern of late. Things look like they may pick up a little before the end of the year.


Alan Extreme unmasked, Bombero loses his hair, new DTU champ

IWRG (SUN) 11/03/2013 Arena Naucalpan [DJ Spectro, Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
***Castillo del Terror, 2013***
1) Bracito De Plata & Látigo b Mini Multifacetico & Voladorcito
Latigo replaced Mini Canis Lupus. Tecnicos had a mascot named Picolin.
2) Ciclón Black, Douki, Guerrero Mixtico b Dragón Celestial, Fulgor II, Imposible
FILL vs Rivera. Karate Kid was scheduled, but hurt a week prior. The returning Chicano was announced as replacement, but it ended up being Douki as new Neza member. Fulgor II replaced Fulgor I. Straight falls.
3) Apolo Estrada Jr., Decnnis, Fuerza Guerrera b Dr. Cerebro, Trauma I, Veneno
Hijo del Pirata was announced, but Veneno replaced him more than 10 days out. Apolo snuck in a foul on Cerebro.
4) Tony Rivera b Bombero Infernal [hair]
Bombero took the first. Tony took the second when Guerrero Mixtico (Tony’s second) hit Bombero with a chain. Team Neza tried the same thing again in the third, but Matrix Jr.’s second (Bombero’s second) got the chain, gave it to Bombero, and Bombero beat up Tony with it. Ref was taken out, Mixtico hit the ring and hit Bombero with a board, and put Tony on top for the win. Team IWRG protested to the commissioner but got nowhere, and Bombero lost his hair. Tony says this is his 56th hair victory. No post match challenges.
5) Alan Extreme L Pirata Morgan Jr., Hijo de Máscara Año 2000, Canis Lupus, Trauma II, Golden Magic, Relámpago, Saruman, Oficial 911, Picudo Jr. [Castillo del Terror, mask, cage]
Ten minute minimum. Carta Brava was originally listed, but replaced by Hijo de Mascara Ano 2000. Centviron was originally listed, but replaced by Saruman after an injury. Escapre order when Pirata Jr., Golden magic, Saruman, Picudo Jr., Hijo de Mascara, Trauma II. Relampago went to leave, but dived off the top of the cage on top of everyone. Rudos beat up Traumas after. Canis Lupus left. That left Relampago, 911 and Alan Extreme, only Golden Magic came back in so Relampago wouldn’t be beat by the two tecnicos. Golden Magic got Relampago out of there, 911 escaped after a superplex/powerbomb spot, and Magic escaped after giving Alan a cradle piledriver. Alan Extreme is Alan Giovanni Perez Montoya, 23, from Mexico State, 6 years a luchador.


Very surprising Alan Extreme lost (though I guess that makes the Temerarios all unmasked, if they’re going to team up again.) Golden Magic went back in a cage, the biggest mistake you can make in IWRG, and lived to tell the tale. If IWRG is still heading towards Black Terry vs Tony Rivera, they didn’t tease it here.

AULL (SUN) 11/03/2013 Arena Lopez Mateos [@BatallaCampal (5), @BatallaCampal (6), @BatallaCampal (7)]
5) Delincunete II L Sangre de Lobo, ??? [mask]
Losing trio from previous match squaring off in an apuesta match (or at least that was the announced format; third person unknown.) Delincunete II is Raul Gonzalez, 20, from Guadalajara, 3 years a luchador.
6) Holkan b Yakuza [AULL LIGHT]
Yakuza came in as champion, but lost the title to Holkan.
7) Terry 2000 b Cerebro Maligno [hair]
Terry won the hair match, though Cerebro Maligno seems to have plenty of hair left in the photo after the match.

Maybe Maligno got his hair cut backstage, but it’s still there in that photo.

Ovett of Los Porros won the DTU championship in Arena Xalapa. Ciclope was the previous champ.

Dark Angel lost the Wonder of Stardom Championship to Act Yasukawa, which appears to finish up her time in Japan. She’s back in Mexico at least by the 11/16 Dos Caras retirement tour show.

AAA’s web video interview with Silver King, Texano Jr. and everyone’s new favorite interview subject Hijo del Fantasma is tonight at 8 pm.


TxT (SAT) 11/30/2013 Gimnasio Juan De La Barrera
1) Rossy Moreno vs Lady Apache
2) Negro Navarro vs Heddi Karaoui
Championship match, unclear what championship.
3) Angel Blanco Jr. & Höruz vs Cien Caras Jr. & Máscara Año 2000 and Villano III & Villano IV and Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan Jr. [hair, mask]
4) Dr. Wagner Jr. & El Hijo del Solitario vs El Hijo Del Santo & LA Park
Format may be wrong.

Poster announces matches, but we’ll need a press conference to figure out what’s going on. Main event just has the pictures of the first guy and isn’t specific on if it’s a four way or a tag match. Second is listed as masks vs hairs and battle of families, but unsure how it works. Navarro & Karaoui are for a title, but who knows which one. Women’s match seems pretty clear! This is the last TxT show of the year; they’ll run 9 this year, down from 13 last year (where they stopped running shows in June.)

CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2013-10-05


taped 2013-09-27 @ Arena Mexico
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Maya & Delta new tag champs, Titan/Mephisto draw, CMLL on Azteca America

photo by Gonzalo López Peralta

CMLL (SUN) 11/03/2013 Arena Coliseo [CMLL, Yahoo! Deportes]
1) Metálico & Sensei b Akuma & Herodes Jr.
Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Sagrado, Starman, Stigma b Camorra, Hooligan, Nitro
Tecnicos took 2/3. Camorra & Stigma feuded, but weren’t involved in the finish.
3) Stuka Jr., Super Porky, Tritón b Felino, Olímpico, Pierroth
Straight falls, Pierroth failing to slam Porky and deciding to foul him instead.
4) Delta & Guerrero Maya Jr. b Namajague & Shigeo Okumura [Arena Coliseo TAG]
Okumura & Namajague are champions, second defense. Rudos took the first with a Michinoku Driver and a german suplex. Tecnicos rallied back to win a quick second fall, then Maya dropped Okumura with the Sacrifica Maya and Delta submitted Namajague with his campana variation to win the title.
5) Tama Tonga, Terrible, Volador Jr. b La Máscara, Máximo, Shocker
6) Mephisto DRAW Titán [MEX LH]
Mephisto is champion, second defense. Mephisto took the first fall and Titan reversed a Devil’s Wings to a huracanrana in the second. The third fall was midway what seemed liked a long third fall when Mephisto pulled out a reverse springboard tope con giro to the floor on Titan and hit the ground hard. Mephisto wrestled for a couple more minutes before Volador (Mephisto’s second) pulled the champion outside. The doctor checked on Mephisto and seemed to tell him he should not continue. Mephisto came back in, Titan immediately rolled him up in his back bridging folded arms cradle, and Mephisto hit Titan on the sides to cause Titan’s shoulders to touch the mat too. Referee counted three for both men, ruling it a double pinfall and a draw.

Stream had issues early. It didn’t get running until last in the first match and was doing weird things in the second. The aspect ratio seemed off all night, and the HD feed wasn’t available.

Crowd was surprisingly strong into the tag match. It got good in the third fall, but the crowd was excited for it before it really got there.  The lead up and the previous matches were about the Fiebre Amarilla team cheating to win, but there were no teases of that in this match.

There were a spot late where both Delta and Maya did topes thru the corners. As he was getting up, Namajague had some incident with a couple of fans (a mom and her son maybe) after he got up – you could briefly see security getting involved as he walked away. The report I was told was Namajague hit the fan, though I don’t have that confirmed and don’t know if there was anything that lead up to it. Namajague ended up on the floor again later, right in front of the fans, and that time a fan gave him a thumbs up and he nodded his head; it’s not like he was in a mood to randomly hit people.

Crowd was tired by the time it came to Mephisto and Titan. They seemed to be building to a big end game and didn’t get there because of the injury. It felt like the double pin was just the easiest way out of the match and maybe not the intended finish; maybe they’ll come back with it again soon.

CMLL (SUN) 11/03/2013 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl]
1) Brillante & Meteoro b El Piraña & Relampago Azul
2) Acertijo & Demonio Rojo b El Divino & El Ídolo
Demonio Rojo took falls 1/3.
3) Metatrón, Sky Kid, Virgo b Demonio Maya, Infierno, Magnum
Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Gallo, León Blanco, Smaker DQ Exterminador, Maléfico, Ráfaga
Tecnicos took 1/3, the last by DQ when Rafaga fouled Smaker.
5) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja b La Sombra, Máscara Dorada, Mistico
Rudos took 1/3, Euforia sneaking in a foul on Sombra to continue their feud. Birthday boy Sombra (24) wanted a mask vs mask match between them, but Euforia would only agree to a singles match next week.

They set up the singles match last week too and ended up with the trios. Maybe it’ll happen next week.

Full recaps of AAA and IWRG tomorrow with any luck.

In AAA, AJ Styles kept his TNA title over Mesias as expected. The match was interrupted by big new star Fantasma and world champion Texano working as goons for Konnan to mess up the match (unsure why they were goons or why Konnan wanted to stop that match; maybe they wanted to be in the match?) Styles & Mesias fought them off and concluded their match. Ludxor and Venum debuted with amazing new outfits and a win, which does put them up one win on the CMLL Cadetes del Espacio.

The undercard had build to a Faby vs Jennifer vs Mary vs Taya hair match (billed as a tag match, but they’re only promising on hair lost) and Psycho Circus vs La Secta trios title match. They also announced to the live crowd that Guerra de Titanes will be 12/08 in Tepic. Again, that makes it very hard for the Secta to get back from AJPW in time for the matches which are being set up, but I’m starting to believe Ozz & Cuervo aren’t actually going to Japan for this tournament. AAA still has said nothing about it and has acted like they’re going to be around next month.

Over in IWRG, Alan Xtreme lost his mask to Golden Magic in Castillo del Terror. Bombero Infernal lost his hair to Tony Rivera in their hair match. No details yet on either; wonder if maybe Team Neza decided to take out both of Black Terry’s friends on the same show.

This came up in the comments already, but not in the main post: Azteca America has a lucha libre show starting next Saturday at 2pm CT. It appears to be a CMLL show. No idea what matches will air or any other detail; I was waiting until the Lucha Times to talk about in hope of finding out a little more, because there’s not much besides that. The show that would make the most sense is the Fox Sports show and the footage they’ve used in the commercial is from that ringside camera recap they use on that show.

AAA announced they’d be taping on 11/22 in Aguascalientes. That should cover at least the 11/30 TV and maybe the 12/07 show (last before Guerra de Titanes, last regular TV show of the year.) Whatever AAA’s doing for GdT should be obvious on that card.

Rob has highlights of 08/30/13 AAA and 08/30/13 CMLL.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update and Alfredo’s recap of Heroes Inmortales part 1

Photos from the 10/30 Lucha Va Voom show.

Rey Terror lost his mask to Yuma.

Lucha Libre in Chile

Arkangel is back from Chile, says he plans on defending his newly won FULL Maximo Championship many times in Mexico before return.

Lucha Libre in Japan

11/02 REINA: everyone lost. Chik Tormenta lost to Dump Mastumoto in revenge from her debut match, and Zeuxis & Vaquerita lost the tag team titles to Aki Shizuku & Alia. As you might have guessed, this is the trio’s last show in Japan before heading back to Mexico.

11/03 Dragon Gate: CIMA, Masaaki Mochizuki, CIBA [W], TSUBASA beat U-T [L], Yosuke  Santa Maria, Flamita, Rocky Lobo – this aired on iPPV, which you can still check out here. Flamita & Rocky Lobo didn’t win, but it sounds like they’re generally impressing. A previous trios match with them is up on DailyMotion.

Solar will face Tiger Mask I on 1/13/2014 in Japan.


CMLL (SUN) 11/10/2013 Arena Coliseo
1) Aéreo & Stukita vs Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia
2) Magnus, Metatrón, Starman vs Camorra, Cancerbero, Raziel
3) Fuego, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Namajague, Sangre Azteca, Shigeo Okumura
4) Delta vs Misterioso Jr. [lightning]
5) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Super Porky vs Niebla Roja, Pierroth, Tama Tonga
6) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Gran Guerrero, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero

Valiente returns from Japan. That suggests he was right about the day he was leaving Japan and is not hanging around for their 11/09 PPV (which in turns suggests what’s going to happen in the tag team tournament.)

They appear to be teasing a Super Porky/Pierroth match, so don’t send in your Worst Match of the Year votes quite yet.

Namajague is not gone yet, but he’s got to face three people who annoy him instead. That’s almost an Anniversary opener rematch, except Sangre Azteca instead of Ishii.

Magnus returns! No Stigma but Camorra keeps his segunda spot.

Tonga defeats Rush, Cometa to Japan

photo by Alexis Salazar

CMLL (FRI) 11/01/2013 Arena Mexico [CMLL]
1) Cancerbero & Raziel b Soberano Jr. & Súper Halcón Jr.
Rudos took 1/3 in a rough match, particularly for Soberano. Soberano was stretchered out after missing a plancha to the floor and hitting his face on the barricade.
2) Goya Kong, Marcela, Silueta b Dalys, La Seductora, Tiffany
Tecnicos took 2/3. Marcela and Dalys are still feuding but not involved in the finish.
3) Ángel de Oro, Rey Cometa, Titán b Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
Tecnicos took 2/3. Titan beat Ephesto and Mephisto in the third fall in build to the title match on Sunday.
4) Blue Panther, Shocker, Thunder b Euforia, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
Shocker’s latest return. Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr. b La Sombra, Máximo, Mistico
6) Tama Tonga b Rush
Straight falls for Tama. Rush fouled him in the first.

Main event sets up the tag title match for next week, with nothing else going on. Everyone who wore a costume got in free, and the Terra cameras found a lot of people in costumes. Many of the wrestlers wore zombie like outfits. The edecanes too; they had a different outfit for every match and did a dance to Thriller in the fourth.

The action in the ring was scary too. Soberano had a rough opening match, and Shocker looked not in good condition (in so many ways) in his return. Tercera was the best match on a weak Terra show. Hopefully Sunday is better.

Rey Cometa is headed to Japan, according to the Arena Queretaro Facebook. This was the name I’ve been hinted towards. We were told the same thing in Mexico and actually already expected it to happen. (I thought it might have been canceled to do a Namajague/Cometa hair match, since they started that up again before dropping, and now wonder if there was a change in plans because of Alex Shelley’s injury meant the Bushi/CMLL team would be advancing in the current tag team tournament.) There’s no timeline mentioned here, but it would make a lot of sense for Cometa to work against Namajague upon his return to Japan, which is most likely to happen at FantasticaMania. Plus, if Fantasma knew he wasn’t going on that tour this year, the guys who do probably have been told they’re going.

AAA has the second part of their interview with Cibernetico. They’ll talk to el Consejo on Monday night.

Eric R @ Segunda Caida reviews Uprising: Lucha Libre 10/21/13.

LuchaWorld has Alfredo’s recap of last Sunday’s CMLL on Terra show.


IWRG (THU) 11/07/2013 Arena Naucalpan
1) Sky Ángel vs Zurdog
2) Alfa, Hip Hop Man, Omega vs Araña de Plata, Atomic Star, Electro Boy
3) Dragón Celestial, Mr. Leo, Seiya vs Douki, Fulgor I, Fulgor II
4) Chico Che, Golden Magic, Relámpago vs Canis Lupus, Imposible, Saruman
5) Dr. Cerebro, Toscano, Veneno vs Alan Extreme, Eterno, X-Fly

Main event Alan Extreme! Toscano’s worked more IWRG than AAA of late. Chico Che is back.

CMLL (FRI) 11/08/2013 Arena Mexico
1) Astral & Bam Bam vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pierrothito
2) Goya Kong, Luna Mágica, Silueta vs Dalys, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sugheit
3) Ángel de Oro, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Felino, Puma, Tiger
4) Máximo vs Rey Escorpión [lightning]
5) Atlantis, La Sombra, Shocker vs Euforia, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero
6) La Máscara & Rush vs Tama Tonga & Terrible [CMLL TAG]
Rush & La Mascara are champions, first defense.

The Super Libre Plus match seemed to point towards a Maximo/Escorpion hair match, and maybe we’ll find out if that’s happening after the lightning match. Women in the segunda continues even without Marcela.

CMLL on CadenaTres: 2013-10-05


taped 2013-10-01 @ Arena Mexico
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Fantasma rips CMLL, Traumas too much for medics, Rush/Tonga

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (THU) 10/31/2013 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr. (flickr), Estrellas del Ring]
1) Látigo b Zurdog
2) Araña de Plata & Electro Boy b Emperador Azteca & Hip Hop Man
Hip Hop Man, from 100% Lucha in Argentina, made his debut here in a loss.
3) Canis Lupus, Imposible, Picudo Jr. b Bugambilia, Diva Salvaje, Veneno
4) Trauma I & Trauma II b El Hijo del Medico Asesino & Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. [IWRG IC TAG]
Traumas came in as champions and took falls 1/3. Wagner stole Trauma 2′s mask in the third to pin him, but Medico was hurt after a Trauma dive. The real IWRG doctor ruled Medico unable to contonuie, and Trauma I beat Wagner to keep the titles. econd defense
5) Eterno, Fuerza Guerrera, X-Fly b Dr. Cerebro, Extreme Tiger, Relámpago

Alfredo has a recap of this week’s Tercera Caida, including Veneno being Veneno and Fantasma talking about his problems with CMLL.  If you want a lot more detail on the later, you really ought to check out Fantasma’s after the show chat with the hosts. Fantasma does not hold back much in that, and it’s a 17 minute video that probably could’ve gone 30. (There are a couple edits, so maybe it did!) Rob called it a lucha libre shoot interview and it was pretty much as close as you’re going to get

You’re (always) better watching yourself and not relying on me to translate conversations, but pieces of note

  • CMLL morale is generally bad – they have no hope of advancing because the office doesn’t even watch the matches and the people running the shows leave before they’re over.
  • Lots of CMLL people say they want to jump, but don’t have the guts to do it when it comes to it.
  • CMLL lets people go to the ring drunk or high.
  • Very critical of a certain wrestler going from opening matches to main events over night, skipping over a lot of deserving person, but it helps to be someone’s “brother”. (Fantasma said it in quotes, more or less.)
  • Points at favoritism when it comes to Japan/FantasticaMania bookings. Felt CMLL had Fantasma work with all the Japanese wrestlers when they came in and the Japanese guys always liked him, and the CMLL guys would always tell him he’d be going but it’d turn out someone else would go.
  • Praise for many people he now gets to work with in AAA. (He’s the mystery guy in Tonala, and also excited for the Queretaro match.)
  • CMLL opening matches can’t touch AAA opening matches.

On one of those points: Now that the Anniversary show is long past, the Gran Guerrero push Fantasma is refereeing to really sticks out as a horrible case of nepotism. It made a little sense to introduce and push him hard if CMLL was laying the groundwork for some Guerrero Switch during an Atlantis/Ultimo Guerrero mask match, but that was never even teased as happening and now that mask match is TBD. Gran Guerrero is arguably the second worst rudo being pushed near the top (similar nepotism champion Pierroth has first placed locked up), and unarguably not at the level of Euforia & Niebla Roja, guys who’s spots he’s taking. Gran Guerrero isn’t hopeless, but he’s nowhere near ready for the spot they’ve put him in, doesn’t help his team, doesn’t help his opponents look good, doesn’t have any particular charisma or any other attribute to help him stand out. (In this case, even Mistico II is better, because they can at least try to the ‘special charisma’ case. Gran Guerrero is just a guy.) There’s absolutely no reason Gran Guerrero should be in the spot he’s in besides he’s the “brother” of a guy who has power and gets to do whatever he wants. It’s not good for CMLL, it’s not good for the other luchadors and it’s not good for the fans, but none of those things matter much to the people in charge.

The bit about people in charge leaving before shows are over and no one watching the matches is a pretty strong shot at CMLL (but also one that appears to be true.) Luchadors going to the ring in no condition is not news if you see certain main events (and people who get brought back time after time), but there usually an omerta-like silence in Mexico about drug and alcohol usage near lucha libre. It stands out when luchadors are actually willing to talk about it.

I don’t know if there will be a lot of blow back about this; none of the CMLL office use the internet, and this part of the interview only aired on the internet. Some will still get back to them, but CMLL’s pretty unaffected by criticism – even this past week, Ultimo Guerrero appeared in SuperLuchas critical of people chanting fraude for the Anniversary show because the rules were announced but not addressing the underlining problem which led to that unhappiness.

(Bonus person taking a shot at CMLL.)

CMLL’s main event tonight is Rush vs Tama Tonga, which seemed like it might also be the year end hair match main event. Howerver, it also seems way too soon for Tama to lose his hair in Mexico (not to mention where he is in NJPW) and it’s really not been as hot as Rush’s other feuds so far. The Dalys and Marcela feud goes on and on (and is probably in line for their own hair match challenges now.) Sombra and Volador also meet up yet again in the semifinal.

Shocker says he’s working today and in Puebla on Monday. Later, he remembered he’s also working Coliseo on Sunday and Guadalajara on Tuesday. Hooray.

CMLL may to have joined the Seguro Popular public health insurance program.  That’s the one AAA signed up for earlier this year and Daniel Aceves works with, but the article is so short that it’s not clear if CMLL actually became part of the program or if they simply put on a show to promote the program and gave the person in charge a title belt.

AAA teases the upcoming debut of Ludxor & Venum.

AAA will hold matches at a horror film festival. Psycho Circus appeared at the press conference to announce it.

A local lightweight tournament in Cuernavaca ended with Dr. Maldad defeating Kid Power by forfeit when Power was injured before the match. Unlike some other locales, they found a new challenger and still had a title match (which Maldad won in straight falls.)

Bombero Infernal and Tony Rivera talk about their hair match on Sunday.

Sadica brags about taking Bugmabilia’s hair for her fans.

Arena Queretaro has posted Marco Corleone’s medical note from the commission to explain why he wasn’t on their show this week. Probably wouldn’t need to resort to such things if CMLL would just announce when people are injured.

There’s a controversy over masks being given out at a this weekend at Washington State football game, with a student group claiming the masks are “culturally insensitive and demonstrate cultural appropriation at an institutional level” and “a marketing gimmick”. (Well, yes, that’s the point of lucha libre masks to start with.)

Lucha Libre in Japan

Andy Wu has left Queretaro and is with Wrestle-1. Pantera was supposed to go with him to wrestle on the shows, but won’t for whatever reason and Hijo del Pantera will replace him.

Wrestle-1 is also promoting an AJ Styles versus Seiya Sanada match. It’s listed as non-title, but you can probably already have a good guess at the Mesias/Styles Tonala result. (The ‘fun’ part of Mesias being the one getting this shot is English language websites listing him as ‘Judas Mesias’, a name from his unsuccessfully TNA run, instead of either name he actually is currently using.)

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-10-05


taped 2013-09-24 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
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