Santo teases retirement, Astral wins boydbuilding contest, GdT building

El Hijo del Santo’s column starts off with Santo announcing he’s off the current TxT tour because he’s headed back to Mexico City for x-rays on his spine. Santo dramatically states the doctors will decide on Monday if he’s able to continue his lucha libre career or if he’ll be forced to retire. That Monday press conference should also be the press conference to push the TxT show next week in Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera, so this feels like a real injury that’s being inflated to promote something. It’s a Santo column, so there are already fantastical things going on – he refers to LA Park replacing him last night and the crowd being totally okay with it, even though he would’ve turned in this column before the TxT show happened.  The rest of the column is in the usual fashion, claiming his generation of wrestlers ended up the least injured because they were the most skilled at wrestling on the mat (ignoring the part earlier where his career is ending due to injury.)

CMLL’s annual bodybuilding contest was held yesterday. Results

Principiantes Category:
1) Dragon Lee II – a brother of Rush & Mistico
2) Pequeno Olimpico
3) Stukita
Other particpants: Super Halcon, Genesis, Oro Jr., Ultimo Dragoncito, Apocalipsis, Acero, Pequeno Warrior, Leono, Demus, Gran Guerrero, Zacarias, Pequeno Halcon, Pequeno Nitro

Intermedios Category:
1) Electrico
2) Akuma
3) Puma – originally competed in Principiantes but moved up.
Other Particpants: Soberano, Esfinge, Metalico, Namajague

Femenil Miss CMLL:
1) Dalys
2) Dark Angel
3) Estrellita
Other Particpants: Marcela, Princesa Sugehit

Avanzados Category:
1) Astral
2) Sensei
3) Tama Tonga
Other Particpants: Mr. Niebla (wearing his afro wig), Delta, Vangellys

Astral won the overall competition.

The actual competition was preceded by a tumbling demonstration by Arkangel’s students, as in recent year. Sons of Mr. Niebla & Villano III were among those students. Villano III’s two sons (Hijo/Junior) have wrestled in the last few months on tiny shows he’s main evented. Mr. Niebla’s son was shown in one of the season 2 episodes of El Luchador. That same season included a few meals at Rush/Mistico’s home, and they appeared to have many brothers/sisters, so it’s not a big surprise to see one of them training (though there was no hint of that on the show.)

Previous years included a Minis division and a Student division. The students did pose but there were no rankings announced (everyone was just congratulated.) The minis division had been superfluous in recent years, with many of minis participating in the other categories.

Dark Angel had won the previous seven years of this contest and had previously said she would not be in this one. The reversal was a surprise, and no more explained than her announced absence. Dalys had finished second the last four years in a row.

Puma and Ultimo Guerrero gave masks to Vanguardia Deportiva, the sponsors of the contest.

Advanced category winners by year
2006: Olimpico
2007: Ogun
2008: Polvora
2009: Molotov
2010: Rush
2011: Valiente
2012: La Sombra

Polvora’s elevation from the the openers started right after he won the 2008 contest. Rush, Valiente, and SOmbra all received more attention, but may have gotten the same had they finished second.

Sensei won the intermediate group last year and was the overall winner last year, but did not seem to benefit from it.) And for all the years Dark Angel won the contest, it did not get her closer to a CMLL world women’s championship reign.

There a lot of things which greatly annoyed me about the bodybuilding contest. It was actually Genesis, a poor quality luchador gifted with a spot on the CMLL roster choosing to improve his look over his technique (and how it was the correct decision) which set me off yesterday, but there’s plenty of other things to pick at here. At the same time, people have clearly worked very hard for long periods of time on this and it feels over the top just trash the whole thing.

Dorian Roldan announced Guerra de Titanes will take place in the Auditorio de la Gente, Tepic, Nayarit on 12/08 and posted the preview poster on Twitter. Auditorio de la Gente just opened this October and seats 12,000 people. The lineup for that show should be out as soon as Saturday

Electroshock notes he’s been Megachampion and beaten Kurt Angle, so he’s a worthy challenger to Blue Demon. Plus, Demon travels a lot and he feels the belt should be defended in AAA.

The poster for the Korakuen Hall FantasticaMania shows include Liger, Tanahashi, Nakamura and BUSHI as NJPW luchadors.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Rob has highlights of CMLL 04/12/13 and random thoughts on this week’s TV.

Last night’s Tercera Caida had highlights of ChilangaMask and interviews with Ovett & Ciclope to hype the DTU show in DF this week.

Cronicas y Leyendas looks back at the odd trio of Vampiro, Mil Mascaras and Atlantis and the trio of Fuerza Guerrera, Heavy Metal and Negro Casas.

Aeroboy talks about his upcoming CZW trip.

El Martinete says fakes have been posing as LA Park using the @LA_ParkOriginal and @laparktapiia names. The last is still up, using a fake verification check as it’s background. SuperLuchas quoted the first one in a post and hasn’t taken it down. @laparktapia was believed to be LA Park’s authentic Twitter account, but he hasn’t used it since August.

The Nosawa promoted show with Mil Mascaras & Dos Caras’ billed final match as a team will also include Pantera versus Hijo del Pantera.

La Sombra enjoys airport food on the way to Japan. The tag team tournament kicks off Sunday.

Puebla’s university will host a panel discussion and movie screening of lucha libre tomorrow.

Atlantis takes Manhattan.


Brazo (SAT) 11/23/2013 Arena Neza
***Honoring El Brazo***
1) Aramis, Goya Kong, Marcela, Muñeca De Plata vs Amapola, La Comandante, La Seductora, Princesa Sugheit
2) Brazo de Platino, Coco Blanco, Neza Kid vs Black Abyss, Mike Segura, Robin (CMLL)
3) Rey Lobo vs Super Brazo [mask, hair]
4) Crazy Boy, Joe Lider, Niño Hamburguesa vs Devil Rocker, Machine Rocker, Soul Rocker
5) Argenis, Electroshock, Fenix (AAA) vs Argos, Chessman, Pentagón Jr.
6) La Parka Jr., Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown vs el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Máscara Año 2000, Silver King, Texano Jr.
7) Brazo de Oro, Brazo de Plata, La Máscara, Máximo vs Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero, Villano IV, Villano V

Lineup via Pierrothazo Facebook; AAA has confirmed the 5th and 6th matches.

CMLL (TUE) 11/26/2013 Arena Mexico
1) Leono & Metálico vs Disturbio & Inquisidor
2) Pegasso, Soberano Jr., Tritón vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Canelo Casas, Hooligan
3) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Goya Kong vs Amapola, Tiffany, Zeuxis
4) Fuego vs Namajague [lightning]
5) Stuka Jr., Thunder, Titán vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
6) Máximo, Shocker, Super Porky vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión

Brazo de Plata versus Rey Escorpion continues turning up on Tuesdays. Titan and Terrible rematch in the semifinal?

Lightning match sounds fun, won’t air.  First Arena Mexico match for Zeuxis since July 16th due to the REINA trip.

CMLL (TUE) 11/26/2013 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Esfinge & Metatrón vs Infierno & Ráfaga
2) Oro Jr., Sky Kid, Smaker vs Guerrero Negro Jr., Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno
3) Sagrado, Starman, Stigma vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus
4) Delta, Diamante Azul, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Niebla Roja, Pierroth
5) Atlantis, La Máscara, Rush vs Negro Casas, Tama Tonga, Volador Jr.

Rush versus Casas/Tonga feud comes to Guadalajara.

FS UVLL (SUN) 12/01/2013 Feria Chiapas, Tuxtla Gutiérrez, Chiapas
1) Blackbaby & Sepultura vs Furier & Mini Black Metal and Diamante Rojo Jr. & Silencio Jr.
2) Dinastía & Mamba vs Demasiado & Mini Abismo Negro
3) Jinzo vs Kaleth, Eterno, Drastik Boy, Ángel del Misterio, Rey Celestial
4) Crazy Boy, Joe Lider, Niño Hamburguesa vs Joey Ryan, Parka Negra, Roderick Strong

Ryan and Strong will be working random shows in between the DTU ones. The one and only Joey Ryan versus Nino Hamburguesa match?

AAA on UTDN: 2013-10-31


taped 2013-10-18 @ Gimnasio Miguel Hidalgo de Puebla

Mesias uses the hit stick on Fenix

El Mesías vs Monsther Clown and Silver King and Fénix in a Copa Antonio Pena semifinal: This was less than expected. Monster Clown wasn’t part of it long, which seemed like a good thing, only not so much since some of the other guys weren’t in it. Silver King and Mesías were bad together, awful for guys who are thought of individually as good wrestlers. The sunset flip spot sticks out but they were on different pages the whole way thru. Fenix and Silver should’ve also been stronger to finish it but it was just okay.


Mesias does not use the jump button

Octagón vs Hijo del Fantasma, Daga, Axel in a Copa Antonio Pena semifinal: Got better as it went along, and the lesser people went out. Octagon has nothing to offer, but Axel was much better than his last appearance. He still isn’t good, or even OK, but not embarrassing is a nice change. Could’ve used a lot more Daga & Fantasma at the end. Fantasma probably needs to work on the non-ramp finisher thing, but a casita works perfectly fine (and feels like a Consejo winning maneuver.) What’s the point of the second referee on the outside when no interference gets stopped?


Mascara 2000 Jr. attempts to fly

La Parka vs Parka Negra II, Electroshock, Máscara Año 2000 Jr. in a Copa Antonio Pena semifinal: The Mascara Ano 2000/Electroshock you never knew you wanted. Wait, you probably didn’t want this. This was really weirdly the Electroshock showcase, as he was the center of action for most of the match. La Parka was barely in, and spent most of the time in staring at Zorro (who seemed to specifically have no point in being here other than putting him back into circulation.) The big Parka/Parka Negra fight turned out to be so slight, it seemed like a possible blow off to that and maybe even the Parka Negra character. Three for three on run-ins.

Cibernético vs el Hijo del Perro Aguayo and Psicosis and Chessman in a Copa Antonio Pena semifinal: Not really much of a match; when you cut out the interference and stalling in these matches (none of which has added anything), they’re not much more than CMLL tournament matches. Perro & Cibernético’s elimination made no sense in the context of the match – they were apparently disqualified for someone attacking them. They need to stop putting these guys in tournament matches if they have to come up with increasingly ludicrous ways to get them out of tournaments without ever jobbing. (Much less them coming out after the match to show how stupid it is for them not to able to continue – that had to be Perro doing it on his own.) Four for four on interference setting up eliminations.


Fantasma learns about Parka’s bad arm.

Fénix vs Hijo del Fantasma, La Parka, Chessman for the Copa Antonio Pena: Whoever decided these matches needed a referee outside the ring must hate the AAA referees and want them to come off all as morons. Four straight matches of the interfering people getting right past the outside referee, and one match of the outside referee watching as Fantasma gives Fenix the most illegal move in lucha libre and doing nothing about it. If your spot requires the inside the ring ref to be distracted, maybe you should also think about the guy outside? This was so dumb. This tournament didn’t work at all – it’s tough to make any tournament built around a 2013 La Parka, but this was a 2013 La Parka who really had little to offer. Parka, for whatever reason (and there are obvious ones), did not seem interested in any of his matches and it really dragged everything down. Fantasma laughable ends his debut show by getting stretcher out from an armbar or all things. This was a bad tournament.

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CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2013-10-26

Herb Dean would’ve stopped it


taped 2013-10-18 @ Arena Mexico
Super Porky vs Rey Escorpión for the hair in super libre plus: I have this as Good and not great – though this is an incredibly weird match to rate. It did really feel like a different match than usual (like the submission match), where the spots they’d normally do in a match (the plancha!) felt wildly out of place and made the match seem more goofy than they were otherwise going for. Same thing with the three falls. There was a case for them, because they got over the holds as finishes in the first two falls and played off them in the third fall, but it seemed really silly to have Escorpion choke out Porky in under two minutes and then the match just keep going like Porky just wasn’t unconscious. When they did play it serious, there were some really serious moments. The punches near the end were really good, but all the brawling just came off as more violent. The finish was kind of in between – it made sense for Máximo to break it up but, if they’re playing fake MMA, it didn’t make sense for the referee not to stop it. Maybe I didn’t understand the rules, but I don’t think I’m the only one who thought that. This was still good more than bad, but I think it was too all of the over the place to be great. It’s one still worth checking out.

Maximo’s boxing skills. (Note Zavala deciding to stay as far out of range as possible.)

Tama Tonga & Terrible vs La Máscara & Rush: Not good, disappointing. La Mascara was not into the match at all, moving half speed and having no energy. I’m not sure if his mind was just elsewhere because of the circumstances, but it turned out to be a poor performance. He and Tama Tonga were so slow in the first fall, as if building to a much longer match than was happening, and the match only picked when Rush was involved. They really could’ve used a much hotter start to distract from the lackluster title change. It didn’t help that they turned the sound way down – probably because of some negative reactions to the bait and switch. It sounded like no one cared, and it was tough to find a reason to care in the match itself at all. I’m very much not excited for the inevitable title rematch.

best thing Mascara did all match was mostly Tonga’s work

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Volador defeats Mascara Dorada for NWA Welterweight Title, UG beats Sombra

photo by Alexis Salazar

CMLL (TUE) 11/19/2013 Arena Mexico [CMLL]
1) Camaleón & Soberano Jr. b Apocalipsis & Espanto Jr.
Apocalipsis replaced Herodes. Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Mercurio, Pequeño Violencia, Pequeño Warrior b Eléctrico, Pequeño Halcón, Último Dragoncito
Ultimo Dragonicto replaced Bam Bam, missing back to back shows. Rudos took 2/3
3) Amapola, Dalys, Princesa Sugheit b Estrellita, La Seductora, Marcela
Dalys was announced as a replacement for Comandante, and Seductora was a replacement for Luna. Rudas took 2/3. They were annoyed at Seductora for helping the tecnicas, but Sedcutora betrayed the tecnicas at the end and Marcela beat Dalys.
4) Delta, Diamante Azul, Titán DQ Ephesto, Pierroth, Terrible
Terrible & Pierroth replaced Averno & Mephisto earlier in the week. Pompin was honored for being in lucha libre 56 years. Tecnicos took two straight, Terrible DQed in the second for throwing Titan over the top rope (powerbomb to the floor onto the tecnicos)
5) Máximo, Super Porky, Thunder b Dragón Rojo Jr., Rey Escorpión, Tama Tonga
Tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Volador Jr. b Máscara Dorada [NWA WELTER]
Mascara Dorada came in as champion. Volador won the first with a frontcracker/backcracker, Dorada took the second, and Volador won the third with a Canadian Destroyer. Volador is the 5th/61st champion. Dorada falls on second defense.

Probably a rematch coming on FantasticaMania (and it doesn’t seem like Volador’s going anywhere else, as it has for a while.) Match sounded like it was the usual quick opening falls and long last fall.

Volador has won these titles, in order: trios titles, tag titles, light heavyweight title, middleweight title, welterweight title. Virus should be concerned about his super lightweight title.

CMLL (TUE) 11/19/2013 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl, Informador]
1) Bengala & Leono b Demonio Rojo & Sádico
Leono replaced Sensei. Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Bárbaro Cavernario, Hooligan b Leo, Magnus, Stigma
Rudos took 2/3.
3) Dark Angel, Goya Kong, Silueta b La Comandante, Princesa Blanca, Tiffany
La Comandante replaced Dalys. Tecnicas took 1/3.
4) Mr. Águila, Olímpico, Pólvora b Ángel de Oro, Sagrado, Shocker
Rudos took 1/3.
5) Último Guerrero b La Sombra
UG took 2/3, the last by pulling Sombra’s mask and rolling him up.

That’s two straight people who’ve lost to Ultimo Guerrero in a seemingly pointless singles match before they go to the NJPW tour. I guess if UG is running thru all the tencicos to build up to the mask match with Atlantis it makes some sense, but I don’t believe there’s actually that sort of plan here.

Dark Angel said on Twitter she would not be in the bodybuilding contest. The streak is over!

ChilangaMask says they’ll run one more show this year on 12/22.

Black Terry Jr. has highlights of Canis Lupus vs Guerrero Maya and Satanico, Black Terry, Negro Navarro vs Blue Panther, Solar, Super Astro.

LuchaWorld has a recap of Casandro on WrestleTalkUK and PosterMania for the week.

Mamba wants revenge for Pimpinela unmasking him three years ago.

CMLL Gaceta has a preview of the bodybuilding contest.

Elijah Wood saw the AAA show at Morbid Fest.

Estrellas del Ring interviews Rey Inmortal.

Cronicas y Leyendas looks back at Villano I unmasking Brontas.

top six stories of the last two weeks

  1. AAA taped in Queretaro, their second to last taping before their last major show of the year. The only match announced for Guerra de Titanes is Electroshock challenging the returning Blue Demon for the dormant Latin American championship. Fenix won in the main event, pinning the least important member of la Secta. A womens/exoticos apuesta match continues to build in the opening match.
  2. La Mascara & Rush kept the tag team titles over Tama Tonga & Terrible, with Rush faking foul to win. This apparently ends the Rush/Tonga feud for now, because Rush has returned to feuding with Negro Casas.
  3. Ricky Marvin defeated Belial in the main event of last weekend’s Chilangamask show in what was said to be a great match. Rey Cometa versus Impluso was said to also be great.
  4. Rush beat Shocker in Puebla, but lost again to Terrible for the heavyweight title in Guadalajara
  5. CMLL debuted on Azteca America. They’re matches from the Friday night shows and already airing out of order.
  6. Dr. Wagner declared he was going to invade CMLL, then showed up at an Arena Naucalpan show to challenge Mr. Niebla. It still seems like a stretch that Wagner will make it to Arena Mexico, but maybe CMLL okayed Niebla vs Wagner matches elsewhere.
  • Mistico, Volador Jr., Mascara Dorada, Rush, La Sombra, Mascara Dorada, Titan, Maximo, Ultimo Guerrero, Mephisto, Rey Escorpion, Okumura, Stuka Jr., Rey Cometa, Fuego, Vangellys and Niebla Roja will be on the FantasticaMania shows.
  • Dos Caras won in the first of a series of retirement matches in Arena Lopez Mateos.
  • CMLL lists someone named “Psyco Ripper” as wrestling on Friday. No one has any idea who this is.
  • NWA Mexico folded.
  • EAW returned, ran shows in Sonora to low attendances, will now disappear again.
  • Joe Lider took Angel o Demonio’s hair.
  • IWRG’s Canis Lupus beat CMLL’s Guerrero Maya Jr. to keep the IWRG IC Welterweight championship, with AAA’s Eterno in Lupus’ corner. This is kind of surprising if you stop to think about it, so the people in charge obviously did not.


CMLL on CadenaTres: 2013-10-26


taped 2013-10-22 @ Arena Mexico

Disturbio double knee

Metatrón & Robin vs Disturbio & Zayco: A very formula primera, with the same sequence of events at the same points as all the other openers ever. It was a little bit livelier in the third fall and it was actually one of Robin & Metatron’s better days, but it was so also so incredibly routine and uninspired.


[crowd chant here]

Aéreo, Fantasy, Stukita vs Mercurio, Pequeño Warrior, Pierrothito: Stukita is one of the handful of most exciting minis CMLL has, as he was again here, and it’s a shame we’re not getting to see him more often. Pequeño Warrior is one of the worst (Pequeño Universo holds the crown) and he’s seems to be getting a hair loss payoff in the next few months. He really put as little effort as possible here and built no interest in a match with him and Aereo. Everyone else was okay, but this was the rare two fall match where they actually gave the match less time and it showed.


Delta’s rolling over the ropes headscissors

Fuego, Sagrado, Starman vs Namajague, Sangre Azteca, Virus: Didn’t reach the potential of this match but still solid enough. Starman really seemed to enjoy wrestling Namajague and Virus was good, but a lot of the rest of this was the usual bits with the usual guys. An improvement over the last two matches.


great Titanics

Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Rey Escorpión, Vangellys: Vangellys has come a long way, but a Vangellys/Atlantis feud and Vangellys actually winning a match over Atlantis is still a pretty shocking sight. Vangellys made it seem not totally absurd. The match itself wasn’t as all out as some of the weekend Maya/Delta exploits but had some good moments.

Kráneo, Mr. Águila, Volador Jr. vs Super Porky, Titán, Valiente: Unusual for a CMLL match building to a hot tag – and then not really getting the técnicos a lot of offense after it. Rudos won pretty quick and easily in the end. Match was fine for a Tuesday main event, but a match with Valiente & Titan where the only guy who did a dive was Super Porky (so totally strange.) Aguila seems to be a Tuesday night star for the time being, but looked decently motivated here.

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CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-10-26


Rudas plan needed some work.

taped 2013-10-15 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
Luna Mágica, Marcela, Silueta vs Amapola, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sugheit: Only aired because everyone was on auto pilot. Not a good match, not really interesting in anyway. Between the rest of CMLL’s Sunday show and the Guadalajara one, there surely were more interesting matches to be had, but what we had was a lackadaisical luchadora match.

Valiente crushes Ultimo Guerrero

taped 2013-10-20 @ Arena Coliseo
Valiente vs Último Guerrero: Straight up Ultimo Guerrero match, with Valiente plugged into the opponent spot. He did fine and the crowd was into him but it really wasn’t about him. There’s been a lot less singles UG matches of late and it’s been a pleasant change. UG still has no plans of changing how he does singles matches – not even the order of the moves in the third fall – so at least they’re giving chances to other people instead of doing these. This seemed a little longer and little better live, but neither version is worth going out of your way to see.


can’t believe this didn’t work!

Atlantis, La Máscara, La Sombra vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto: This seems like a real match live, but was edited down to not be much of one for the first two falls and then total autopilot for most the last two falls. I guess it was enough, but it was also very nothing special.. Crowd cheering more for Mascara than Sombra is feels so wrong but happened here. Unclear if there was a plan for a Mephisto/Mascara match the following week which got scuttled, or if this was just usual a CMLL random finish.

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Quien es “Psyco Ripper”?

Heck if I know.

Theory #1: Psyco Ripper is a current CMLL luchador getting a new name.

CMLL usually keeps people who are getting new characters away for around a month, so they’re forgotten a bit before they show up with the new name. A list of male luchadors who’ve been away for at least two weeks (number is days since last match.)

14 Mr. Águila
14 Bengala
14 Cholo
21 Morphosis
21 Ramstein
21 Robin
21 Leono
21 Apocalipsis
39 Rey Bucanero – out hurt
49 Inquisidor
49 Diamante
53 Psicosis II
95 Skandalo – out hurt, but I put him here so you wouldn’t ask

I’m thinking Cholo is not getting a midcard gimmick, as much as the Cholo fan club might dream. We can rule out Ramstein, Robin, Leono, Apocalispis and Inquisidor for similar reasons. Mr. Aguila and Rey Bucanero are not getting new characters at this point of their career. Morphosis obviously would like to be Histeria and it seems unlikely he’ll change names outside of going back to that name. That leaves two names:

Psicosis II – Psyco Ripper is not far off and it’s always possible he lost the rights to the name. It’s also possible someone decided they couldn’t put him in a credible mask match with that name but maybe thought a new one would work. The problem here is he’s in Puebla Monday under the Psicosis name, but CMLL internal confusion is not new.

Diamante – went home seven weeks ago and hasn’t been heard from since. Diamante’s career has nose dived since he took up the El Santo outfit. There’s a half dozen tecnicos who’ve passed him on the pecking order and he’s regressed in the ring. CMLL was high enough on Diamante to feature him on the first FantasticaManias, so maybe there’s still someone who holds him in enough esteem to give him a new chance as a rudo. It may not work, but it’s not hard to try.

Theory #2:  Psyco Ripper is a new person

Trainee? Family member who is getting a spot to make other family members happy? A Black Abyss-like indy guy getting a good spot here? (Unlikely.) A foreigner? (More unlikely.) There are a lot of possibilities. Most of them aren’t likely to be any good.

Psyco Ripper will be revealed tomorrow if he’s a new person. Any new guy who’s important enough to jump right into the midcard will certainly be required to be at the crazily important bodybuilding contest, and is probably a participant. That seems to be how CMLL works.

Theory #3:  Psyco Ripper is a Trojan horse for Dr. Wagner Jr.’s invasion of Arena Mexico

[head explodes]


11/16-18 lucha videos

No IWL this week. Friday Terra recording was pretty wrecked. Last week’s UTDN is running late due to internet issues. Extra IWRG aired on AYM previously.


11/16 WWC:
11/17 WWC: - interrupted briefly by severe weather alert

IWRG Zona XXI: 2013-11-03
taped 2013-11-03 @ Arena Naucalpan
1) Dragón Celestial, Fulgor II, Imposible vs Ciclón Black, Douki, Guerrero Mixtico

IWRG Zona XXI: 2013-11-09
taped 2013-11-07 @ Arena Naucalpan
Full show:
1) Alfa, Hip Hop Man, Omega vs Araña de Plata, Atomic Star, Electro Boy
2) Dragón Celestial, Mr. Leo, Seiya vs Douki, Anubis Black, Fulgor II
3) Chico Che, Golden Magic, Relámpago vs Canis Lupus, Imposible, Saruman
4) Dr. Cerebro, Toscano, Veneno vs Alan Extreme, Eterno, X-Fly

CMLL on Terra: 2013-11-15
taped 2013-11-15 @ Arena Mexico
1) Metálico & Molotov vs Disturbio & Espanto Jr. – last few minutes only.
4) Titán vs Boby Zavala in a lightning match

AAA on Televisa: 2013-11-16
taped 2013-11-03 @ Domo de Parque Solidaridad, Tonala, Jalisco
1) Angélico, Australian Suicide, Jack Evans vs Eterno, Juventud Guerrera, Steve Pain
2) El Mesías vs AJ Styles [TNA HEAVY]

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-11-16
taped 2013-11-05 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
Full Show:
1) La Máscara, Rush, Shocker vs Tama Tonga, Terrible, Vangellys
taped 2013-11-10 @ Arena Coliseo
2) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Super Porky vs Niebla Roja, Pierroth, Tama Tonga
3) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Gran Guerrero, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero

CMLL on CadenaTres: 2013-11-16
taped 2013-11-12 @ Arena Mexico
1) Metatrón & Sensei vs Akuma & Guerrero Negro Jr.
2) Bam Bam, Fantasy, Último Dragoncito vs Pequeño Violencia, Pequeño Warrior, Pierrothito
3) Estrellita, Goya Kong, Marcela vs Amapola, La Seductora, Princesa Blanca
Stellar Moments
4) Ángel de Oro, Super Porky, Thunder vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión
History Capsule: La Fiera
5) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Volador Jr.

CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2013-11-16
taped 2013-11-08 @ Arena Mexico
1) Máximo vs Rey Escorpión in a lightning match
2) La Máscara & Rush vs Tama Tonga & Terrible for the CMLL World Tag Team Championship
3) Atlantis, La Sombra, Shocker vs Euforia, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero

Lucha Azteca (CMLL): 2013-11-16
taped 2013-10-11 @ Arena Mexico
Full Show:
1) Máximo, Super Porky, Valiente vs Comandante Pierroth, Ephesto, Rey Escorpión
2) Titán vs Averno in a lightning match

3) La Sombra, Marco Corleone, Rush vs Rey Bucanero, Tama Tonga, Terrible

CMLL Puebla: 2013-11-17
taped 2013-11-04 @ Arena Puebla
Full Show:
1) Meyer & Tigre Rojo vs Guerrero Negro Jr. & Herodes Jr.
2) Asturiano, Leono, Robin vs Fuerza Chicana, Inquisidor, Siki Ozama Jr.
3) Marcela vs Dalys for the CMLL World Women’s Championship
4) Máximo & Super Porky vs Felino & Puma
5) La Máscara, Rush, Vangellys vs Negro Casas, Shocker, Terrible in a relevos increíbles match
6) La Sombra vs Volador Jr.

CMLL on Terra: 2013-11-17
taped 2013-11-17 @ Arena Mexico
Intro (Dark Angel)
1) Acero & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Warrior
2) Magnus, Stigma, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Camorra, Hijo del Signo, Nosferatu
3) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Tritón vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Hooligan, Nitro
4) Dark Angel vs Dalys in a lightning match
5) Rey Cometa, Super Porky, Thunder vs Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr.
6) La Sombra, Titán, Valiente vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto

IWRG Zona XXI: 2013-11-17
taped 2013-11-14 @ Arena Naucalpan
Full Show:
1) Alfa & Omega vs Atomic Star & Electro Boy
2) Dragón Celestial, Látigo, Mr. Leo vs Anubis Black, Douki, Imposible
3) Golden Magic vs Canis Lupus
4) Trauma I, Trauma II, Veneno vs Alan Extreme, Eterno, Súper Nova

La Lucha se la Hace, aired on Mexicanal 2013-11-17
taped 2013?-??-??
Full Show:
1) El Infiel, Fuego de Plata vs Destructor Jr., Daemon
2) Senor Dante vs Drack Conde
3) Brujo Cosmico Jr., El Baron, Rayo de Plata IV vs El Esta Bien, Leopardo, Vagabundo
4) Huracan Ramirez, Ciclon Ramirez Jr., Rayo de Plata Jr. vs Fishman Jr., Espectro Jr., Sabu Jr.

Noches de Coliseo: 2013-11-17
taped 2013-11-12 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Coyote Jr. & Pedro Navajas vs Flecha & Muerte Guerrera
2) Cirio Negro I, Cirio Negro II, Rey Demonio Jr. vs Baby Power, Super Jack, Xtreme Boy
3) Sexy Maciel & Sexy Piscis vs Genocida & Mr. Cuervo
taped 2013-11-10 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey
4) Bengali, Genocida, Heddi Karaoui vs Difunto I, Gato Fantasma, Super Jack


Rush defeats Shocker, Wagner/Niebla, Shu/Navarro, EAW, Atlantis on WON HOF

WCS (SUN) 11/10/2013 Coliseo Coacalco [Black Terry Jr. (flickr), El Pancracio]
1) Látigo & Vega Boy b Cáncer & Sacristán del Diablo
2) Belial, Fulgor, Terremoto, Tornado (DF) b Aramis, Epidemia, Hijo del Angel, Ztizan
an XMW vs Coacalco match, Terremoto beat Ztizan.
3) Ojo de Tigre Jr. & Violent Wotan b Arez & Impulso and Metaleon & Mr. Leo and Angel Celestial & Silver Storm
Wotan & Ojo beat Arez & Impulso. Metaleon and Leo are the Lion Brothers.
4) Jaque Mate, Jaque Mate Jr., Tsunami (Coacalco) b Huracan Ramirez, Huracan Ramirez Jr., Ultraman
5) Black Terry b Black Warrior
Warrior explained after his match he was retired from CMLL, but not from lucha libre.
6) Shu el Guerrero b Negro Navarro [UWF SM] highlights (posted by tvluchadelpasado)
originally listed as UWF, no weight class, then revealed to be Shu’s Super Middleweight Championship. Shu submitted Negro Navarro to defend the belt.

Debut show for the promotion. Main event sounds good.

EAW (SUN) 11/17/2013 Centro de Usos Multiples, Hermosillo, Sonora [El Imparcial]
1) Dark Crow, Embajador del Infierno, Misterio de la Muerte b Herson Kid, Meican Wolf, Sagrado Misterio Jr.
2) Bello Juan, Rey Centella, Sexy Alan b Mario Mora, Templario, Wily Cortez
3) Murua Kid & Sol de Oriente b Yako & Yako Jr.
4) Chico Che, Extreme Tiger, Laredo Kid b Estruendo, Tron, Xcalibur
5) Máscara Dorada & Máximo b Animaniac & Lizmark Jr.
6) Hijo de Rey Misterio II, Mistico, Villano III b Latherface, Rey Escorpion (CMLL), Shocker
Shocker replaced Atlantis and sides were changed. Mistica on Rey Escorpion for the win

Only show with results from the EAW, though there are video clips of other shows here and here. Rey Escorpion ended up on the rudo side and the shows do not seem to have drawn well, as expected.

CMLL (SUN) 11/17/2013 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr. (flickr), Fuego en el Ring]
1) Aéreo & Fantasy b Pequeño Olímpico & Pierrothito
Pierrothito replaced Nitro.
2) Oro Jr. & Stigma b Boby Zavala & Disturbio
Straight falls for the the tecnicos.
3) Canis Lupus b Guerrero Maya Jr. [IWRG IC WELTER]
Canis Lupus’s first defense. AAA’s Eterno was Lupus’ second, rudo Disturbio was tecnico Maya’s second. Both seconds eventually got thrown out for interfering too much. Maya took the first with his suastica variant, Canis took the second with a reinera, and the third with a nudo to keep the title. Money thrown in after the match.
4) Black Terry, Negro Navarro, Satánico b Blue Panther, Solar I, Super Astro
Brazo de Oro was referee, and argued with Satanico after the rudos won. Satanico attacked Brazo de Oro and left him laid out on the floor.
5) Euforia, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero b La Máscara, Rush, Valiente
La Mascara replaced Marco Corleone (out hurt.) Rudos took 1/3, the last when everyone (but Niebla) was distracted by the arrival of Dr. Wagner, and Niebla fouled Mascara to get the pin. Niebla and Wagner had a 15 minute argument post match (and everyone else left?)

Putting everything else aside – and you’d have to find a pretty big aside to put it all – Mr. Niebla versus Dr. Wagner Jr. is an infinitely more doable mask match than LA Park versus Mr. Niebla. I don’t think that’s actually happening here, but I’m sure it’s been suggested.

They’re not using the Furor name for these shows any more (though it’s the same group behind them; they just don’t have a name.) Weird to see Eterno slip thru; I’d imagine CMLL pays so little attention to AAA that they didn’t even realize he was on AAA TV now.

CMLL (MON) 11/18/2013 Arena Puebla [Cinco Radio, El Popular]
1) Águila Egipcia & Bengala b Akrón & Cholo
2) Pierrothito & Saurón b Asturiano & Blue Center
Blue Center replaced Bam Bam.
3) Cancerbero, Fuerza Chicana, Raziel b Metálico, Pegasso, Tigre Rojo Jr.
Raziel beat Pegasso.
4) Kráneo, Olímpico, Psicosis b Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stigma
Camorra drove all the way to Puebla just to distract Stigma into a loss. That’s dedication.
5) La Máscara, Titán, Valiente DQ Averno, Mephisto, Mr. Niebla
Niebla stole Valiente’s mask for the DQ. Averno and Titan continued their feud from Sunday.
6) Rush b Shocker
Rush jumped Shocker on the way to the ring, but lost the first fall. (That seems to happen a lot here.) Rush took fall two with a suplex and snuck in a foul in the third.

Tonight’s CMLL Arena Mexico show has Mascara Dorada defending the NWA Welterweight Championship against Volador Jr. In CMLL Gaceta quotes, Dorada wants a mask vs hair match regardless of the outcome, while Volador thinks they should just combine the stips in this match to get it out of the way. (CMLL Gaceta also warns this match may cause cardiac problems.) CMLL title changes in the summer are planned around the Universal tournament, and CMLL title changes in the late fall seem similarly planned around the FantasticaMania tour. Both guys are on that tour, but a title change tonight could be the set up for a rematch (and another title change) in January. This is a pretty even match which always leads me to take the status quo, but you should not be surprised if the NWA Welterweight title changes hands tonight.

The rest of the card is a toss up at best. There was a good sounding Diamante Azul, Delta & Titan versus Hijos del Averno match on the card, but Mephisto and Averno are now replaced by Terrible & Pierroth. (Dalys also replaces Comandante.) Luchadors in tomorrow’s bodybuilding contest will probably be more focused on whatever they need to get into peak shape for that and not as much on tonight’s matches.

Over in Guadalajara, Sombra faces Ultimo Guerrero in his last match before the NJPW tag team tournament.

photo by Eric

Ultimo Guerrero and Atlantis were among the luchadors working a show in New York this weekend. Reader Eric got to talk to Atlantis at the show:

I told him that he was in the Observer HOF. He was amazed on how well he did in the voting in comparison to Villano 3, LA Park, Blue Panther, etc. He said a mask VS. mask match with Ultimo Guerrero is going to happen, hinted possibly in March.

At least they still think the mask match is happening.

AAA has the second and third part of their interview with Mesias.

Tinieblas Jr., Oriental, and Mascara Jr. defeated PirataMorgan, Hijo de LA Park (sub for Wagner III), and Hijo del Medico Asesino in the main event of the Arena Azteca Budokan 52nd anniversary match.

Holkan and Yakuza continue to build to a mask match in Arena Lopez Mateos.

No IWRG Sunday lineup yet, but they say it’ll be a Caravana de Campeons show. They may not have announced it because Thursday could be setting the title matches – Douki/Celestial versus Impossible for the lightweight, Golden Magic versus Canis Lupus for the Welterweight, FdT and/or Veneno & Alan Etreme for the tag team title. Dinamic Black isn’t going to be back, so they could vacate that title and have a title match. Piratas haven’t been around so probably not that trios titles (or the middleweight), but maybe the Gringos title?

Hijo de Rey Misterio, Xtreme Tiger, Niebla Roja, Dragon Rojo, and Cassandro are billed as appearing in Atlanta on 12/15

DJ Spectro has a bio of Gran Markus

I got a notice from Comcast that El Rey will launch on my cable system on 12/19. It should be around that time for other Comcast customers. At last word, AAA programming wasn’t expected to be on the channel until spring 2014.


CMLL CHOLO TJ (THU) 11/21/2013 Auditorio de Tijuana
1) ? vs ??
2) ? vs ??
3) Tony Casanova & Venum Black vs X-Torm & Zarco [LA TAG]
no champions listed
4) Camaleon De Oro & Hijo de Lizmark vs Memo Velazques & Super Kendo and El Pulpo & Espectro and Rubi Gardenia & Septiembre Negro [ruleta de la muerte]
5) Brazo de Oro, La Máscara, Mistico vs Histeria, Oriental, Rey Escorpión

Rare Thursday show in Tijuana. Non-rare Mistico/Escorpion match.

CMLL (MON) 11/25/2013 Arena Puebla
1) Meyer & Paris vs Artillero & Súper Comando
2) Black Tiger, Milenium, Pegasso vs Blue Center, Camorra, Hijo del Signo
3) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stigma vs Kráneo, Olímpico, Psicosis
4) La Máscara, Máximo, Super Porky vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión
5) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

Tercera is a rematch from this week. At least Camorra gets a match this week. More Artillero/Comando.

CMLL (SAT) 11/30/2013 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Aéreo & Astral vs Demus 3:16 & Pierrothito
2) Dallys la Caribeña & Estrellita vs Princesa Blanca & Tiffany
3) Dinamic Black, Flyer, Golden Magic vs Canis Lupus, Centvrión, Freelance
4) Máscara Dorada, Titán, Tritón vs Euforia, Puma, Tiger
5) Máximo, Rush, Super Porky vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

R de Rudo says this is another Brazo de Plata anniversary show. 3/4 look like a lot of fun if those guys want to have a good match on a Saturday match. This lineup had to be put together long enough ago where Dallys as a tecnica made sense, so Demus’ appearance is probably a hopeful outcome and not confirmed.

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