01/15 – 22 Lineups

Box Y Lucha posted their list today, so I guess I should do the same. A couple quick notes

- Friday’s Tijuana show has another “lots of masks/hair” on the line match. Lizmark’s involved, and every time he’s been in one of these for the last year, I keep wondering if this is how it’ll end for him, losing a mask with no particular build kinda far away from his popularity bases, because he’s just finally found someone who’ll pay for it. It’s kinda sad, but it also would be kind of a relief for him to get that payoff he’s been sticking around for and be done with it. Other names in the match are Groon XXX, Hijo de Solitario, Lizmark, Super Muneco, Coco Negro, Coco Rojo, Electroshock, Espectro Jr., Blue Demon Jr., and Rayman
- Rey defends the LH title against Ultimo in Guadalajara on Sunday.
- The IWRG Veneno/Diablo/Fantasma de la Opera trio, who are calling themselves Corporacion VIP, are promising a new member on Sunday. IWRG appears to be posting lineups but not results on their site. (Same thing with CMLL GDL)
- There’s a big show in Cancun on Saturday, with a main event of Santo & Latin Lover vs Demon and Nicho. There’s been talk about Nicho going to one group or another, but as long as he’s able to get high paying indy bookings like that one sounds, he’s not going to need to join a major promotion right away.
- There’s a UWA Welterweight title defense on Sunday, presumably a different one the other UWA Welterweight title floating around in Japan. I think there was a thread hashing this out on Box Y Lucha, but I couldn’t make sense of it.
- AULL is starting a tag team tournament. That’s why they’re not drawing, they don’t have completely random people fighting for tag team titles, it all makes sense now.

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01/17: Coliseo, AAA TV, Monterrey, Guadlajara, Toryumon


CMLL (TUE) 01/16 Arena Coliseo Results
1) Rayo Tapatio I, Rayo Tapatio II b Carrona, Cobalto
2) Danger, Flash, Super Nova b Polvora, Vaquero, Zayco
3) Apocalipsis, Hooligan, Ramstein b Leono, Tigre Blanco, Tigre Metalico
4) Mictlan, Satanico, Virus DQ Emilio Charles Jr., Okumura, Pierroth
5) Dr. Wagner Jr., Rey Bucanero, Shocker b Canek Jr., Mephisto, Ultimo Guerrero

Misterioso II and Tarzan Boy were replaced by Cnaek Jr. and Mephisto in the main event. Pierroth fouled Virus to get DQed in his match. Leono and one of the Tigres needs to team with a bear.

AAA TV (SAT) 01/20 Parque de Beisbol, Guanajuanto, Guanajuanto
1) Estrellita, Fabi Apache, Cinthia Moreno vs Tiffany, Rossy Moreno, Miss Janeth
2) Chris Stone, Hator vs El Apache, Alliens vs Pegasso, Super Fly vs Scoria, Espiritu [AAA TAG, 1st]
3) Juventud Guerrera, Joe Lider, Psicosis II, Crazy Boy vs Pirata Morgan, Drake, Barba Roja, Pirata Morgan Jr.
4) Alebrije, Elegido, Laredo Kid, Angel vs Abismo Negro, Histeria, Antifaz, ?
5) Octagon, Super Porky, Gronda II vs Scorpio Jr., Alan Stone, Zumbido

They’re doing a “surprise Viper” bit again in the 4th. This is an Octagon tribute show for hitting 25 years of wrestling, so I think you can figure how that main event is going. No La Parka Jr., as he got suspended for a month of shows last tapings. No Hellbrothers because they have no one to fight? Maybe just because it’s Octagon’s night.

RFC is hearing three Mexican wrestlers will probably be joining AAA, either at their first show in Monterrey or the TV taping after.

AAA (SUN) 1/14 Arena Azteca Budokan Results [KrisZ]
1) Drako & Rey Dragon b Takuya & Willy el Exotico
2) Dorado, Galatico, Triple X defeated Flanagan, Ricky Gonzalez, Judas
3) Angel & Fishman Jr. b Histeria & Pirata Morgan Jr.
4) Oriental & Cinthia Moreno b Espiritu & Rossy Moreno [AAA MIXED TAG]
5) Elegido & La Parka Jr. b Abismo Negro & Charly Manson

Judging by the cover of the Box Y Lucha 2801, it’s Cibernetico’s turn to call Latin Lover out. (India Sioux is headed to Japan?)

indy (SUN) 01/14 Arena Coliseo Monterrey Results
1) Corazon Adicto, La Pulga b Angel Negro, Guerrero Griego
2) Burrito, Mini Burro b Toro Blanco, Turbina
3) Ejecutor, La Bestia, Red Flamer b La Kalaka, Nacho Libre, Vagabundo
4) Sky, Turbina b Androide, Rey Sagitario
5) Pancho Tequilla b Golden Boy
6) Konnan Big, La Bella, Vudu b Dulce Poly, Humberto Garza Jr., Sky [cage, electric]

LA Park talked to Ovaciones today. He claimed his feud wasn’t with other wrestlers – it was with the fans in Arena Mexico! I think he could take ‘em. Park finds the fans too moody – he acts tecnico, they boo him, he acts rudo, they start cheering him, what gives? Park’s goal for this year is to the take Dr. Wagner’s mask, and he’ll take the fight outside of CMLL if they keep protecting Wagner and refusing to do the match. It’s good he has a backup plan.

Wrestlers Iron Man and Scorpion were honored by the Box Y Lucha comission of Merecieron. (El Manana)

You may have already seen this elsewhere yesterday, but if you haven’t, there’s a show called Viva La Lucha that’s selling itself at the National Association of Television Program Executives conference this week. (It’s probably over by the time you read this.) The trailer’s entertaining in itself, just for the randomness. I’m sure I see WWE (SmackDown and old ECW footage) and TNA clips in there, but the stuff with a Flash – that’s gotta be RXLL, right? If I understand this correctly, this is merely a hype video to find people (a cable company? someone with money!) to get excited enough about the product to talk them, and not actually a preview, but I don’t expect to hear anything more about this. The studio behind it appears to be reputable, but it doesn’t seem like this is farther along than the concept stage. (Thanks to mikeinformer)

The next Toryumon Mexico show will be on 03/04 in Arena Coliseo, and will feature the promised/threatened NWA International Junior Heavyweight Title tournament. Is this the Zero One Title or the one prior to it? Is that a stupid question? I have no idea. This title better be going back to Japan regardless. Anyway, it’s an 8 man tournament, and current first round match ups are

Hijo de Pierroth (Puerto Rico) vs Alex Koslov (Russia)
Chad Malenko (USA) vs Shocker (Mexico)
Hirooki Goto (Japan) vs Veneno (Panama)
Tajiri (Japan) vs Ultimo Dragon (Japan)

I don’t think Hijo de Pierroth will be bringing home the gold. Yes, I know there are lies up there, but I think that’s what we’re supposed to roll with here. Main event isn’t announced, will theoretically feature Mexicans. They’ll also be Toryumon shows on 05/10 (Acapulco) and 05/12 (annual Arena Mexico show – happy birthday to me). [DGUSA and KrisZ]

There’s a thread on Box Y Lucha theorizing why Arena Coliseo Guadalajara isn’t drawing well.

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GdR #60

Two good matches. Neither was awesome, but it was a good use of an hour.

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Recent (and not so Recent) Box Y Lucha Articles

Box Y Lucha posted many magazine’s worth of articles at the end of last week. Let me try to link to everything for no good reason:

CMLL Owner Slightly Upset

Francisco Alonso is a somewhat angry man. Apparently, after the CMLL vs AAA match on the telethon, someone on air suggested they do a show together – the CMLL owner says no way, and the last time they did, AAA ended up hiding in it’s locker room at the end of the show, and he doesn’t want to deal with that again. He’s also very unhappy with Arturo Rivera coming to CMLL for a few weeks and Alfonso Morales going to AAA for a few weeks. He notes that was out of his control, but states that they have at least 50 new faces they want to get over (QUE?) and has no time for helping out other companies.

In a completely random and seemingly unrelated note, Alonso sounds very enthused about how the CMLL Bodybuilding event and hopes it becomes an annual event. I would be worried about such a statement, but if it’s anyone added more muscle, it’s Olimpico, and he’s got absolutely no push out of it. This fits with the general belief Alonso is divorced from the day to day decision making.

Year End Voting

- Rudo of the Year: Black Warrior (CMLL) and Chessman. Both have new legions of fans – Warrior’s surprised, but Chessman figures people just started using common sense.
- Mistico’s listed as wrestler of a year on the cover, but that article wasn’t posted. If they’re doing split ones there, I’d assume Cibernetico would be the other one.
- Four Man Team Of The Year: Los Mexican Powers. They do have the belts. Juvi says all of us who thought they were an imitation of the Mexicools were wrong. I’m going to hang my head in shame.

- Mil Mascaras bio, which is explicable. The crazy section is where they discuss the idea of a Mil Mascaras Jr., Mil’s all “no one else could live up to me” as you’d expect Mil to be, and then mentions a conversation with Rey Misterio Jr. the other day, where Rey explained to Mil that there’s another international guy who’s a copy of him – Tiger Mask.


Mil also gives a thumbs down to Nacho Libre, in case you were waiting to find out.

Feud Hype

- Before their match at Guerra de Titanes (that’s how old some of these are), Muerte Cibernetica and Cibernetico cut promos on each other. Muerte thanks his fans, who obviously recognize him as he truly is: the messiah. Cibernetico is nicknamed “The King Of Pumping Iron”. That’s an opening for like 500 jokes and I’m not going to make any of them for some odd reason.

- Mistico wants to fight Averno for masks because it’s a match the fans want to see, and Averno doesn’t want to wait to the anniversary show to do it. They’re very much pushing that the match is agreed to, just not the date.

AAA pretty boys angry, still pretty

Remember how Latin Lover claimed AAA wrestlers were ripping him off and wouldn’t go back unless they were ditched? Yea, well, Intocable and Elegido took that one as well as you might think.

Intocable says Latin Lover has hated him from day one and Super Calo and Winners were the true innovates of dancing. Unlike Latin Lover, Intocable notes he didn’t abandon his wrestling fans one he found a little bit of mainstream popularity. Intocable would actually NOT like to face Latin Lover in a match – they’re both tecnicos and the fans wouldn’t want to see them fight, but he’s defintely not scared of Latin Lover. Intocable notes Latin Lover isn’t coming back to AAA any time soon, so he must be totally scared.

Elegido also goes with the “Latin’s abandoned his fans” idea. Elegido states that he’s not imitating or stealing from anyone, he’s got his own unique style. Elegido notes that he came to AAA to take Latin Lover’s place, which kinda makes Latin Lover right, but I shouldn’t be arguing with a professional stripper who just wants to share his talents with the public, as he proclaims. (I imagine Elegido bellowing all these quotes for some reason.) Elegido, AAA historian, says Latin Lover didn’t know how to dance and didn’t have a good body until Antonio Pena made him into the man he is today – Elegido knew all that stuff before he started wrestling, so he couldn’t be ripping anyone off. It took Latin Lover 14 years to get the fans Elegido’s gotten in 7 months, which proves something. Elegido ends by thanking Latin Lover for leaving AAA.

= Blue Demon Jr. talks about wrestling in Arena Mexico for the Teleton show and whatever, but the real thing I took out of this one was the 11/20 Teleton show was supposed to be CMLL vs UWA! Maybe I’m just dumb for taking two months to understand this, but I think that’s topped by CMLL doing an interpromtoional rivalry angle like 13 years after the other promotion died. If AAA dies this year, we can look forward to a big AAA vs CMLL show in 2020. Anyway, Demon does say some noteworthy stuff – he was 70% sure he’d be wrestling in Arena Mexico to start ’07 (not yet) so he can prop up attendance, he’s hoping the CMLL vs indy show becomes an annual event, and he’s thinking he’s not still a member of the Perros.
- Konnan states it was never even a consideration that he would run AAA, but he’s just there to help – like by bringing people with actual talent fron TNA. (LANCE HOYT!)
- Coloso Colosetti, who debuted in 1963 and claims still to be wrestling occasionally, had testicular surgery on 12/20. He says he’ll recover in three months, and then go on a farewell tour.
- Alex Koslov! talks about wrestling in Mexico. He’s learned more in the time in Mexico than the 4 years prior; he chalks that up partially to wrestling guys with a lot more experience, rather than the young men of similar age you’ll find on the US indy scene. Alex loves Mexican women and is looking into making one his fiancee. Also, Alex’s lost his hair while in Mexico – but not in a match, he just had a barber who had no idea what he was doing.
- Octagoncito talks about the death of his father last November and his goals for 2007.
- Mano Negra talks about winning the mask. When the referee raised Atlantis hand, Mano Negra was not sad. He knew, inside, he was a winner who just lost a battle, but not the way. (How’s that war going against Atlantis now?) He’s been wrestling for 36 years now.
- Brazo de Plata Jr. talks about joining AAA. His mother was a little bothered by him changing his name to Kronos, so he’s happy to be back to Plata. He sidesteps any real talk about why he changed names in the first place.
- Flash which is basically the same one elsewhere I posted a week ago.
- Sergio Iván Angulo, Arena Coliseo Ring Announcer? I mean, they say he is, but I don’t remember ever seeing him. I’ll look closer.
- Wolf Ruvinsky
- Bio of Dr. Gama

- Merced Gómez
- Tigre Canadiense
- Blue Demon
- Love Machine
- Eddie Guerrero


- href=http://www.boxylucha.com/n/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1168501904&archive=&start_from=&ucat=4>thoughts on recent Tijuana news
- Bio of Golden Boy, who’s real name is Alfonso Morales but isn’t that Alfonso Morales. Unless this is an elaborate prank.
- Various wrestlers share stories of Dia de Reyes when they were children. For Nemesis and Super Fly, this may have been last year. They ask Alex Koslov about Dia de Reyes in Russian, and he’s like “we never had it – must’ve been too cold!”

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01/21 Congress Theater Lineup


This Sunday, there’s a lucha libre card at the Congress Theatre. I’ve mentioned it before, but in case you’re still unaware

(ongoing thread about it on CPW.)

It’s been a while since I’ve been able to go to a show, so I was actually considering this. The main event is scary – Rayo and Mil are two guys firmly entrenched the ‘living on their reps’ stage of their career. I’m sure there will be plenty of people there who grew up watching them and seeing them in person will take them back to those warm happy memories, but I didn’t, so I’m just left with a bad match. Even still, the undercard could be fun…

…except, as I called when I first mentioned this show, the Bears are playing the same day. It’s not the same time, but the Bears game is pretty much the day. If they win, I want to stick around my TV to find out who they’re playing, and if they lose, I will hate the world and not want to deal with the pain of getting to the Congress Theatre from where I live.

Why aren’t they running on Saturday? They’re running on Friday in LA, so there’s either a show FMLL isn’t mentioning on their site, or they’re just paying Mil and Rayo and the others to hang out for a day. I’m not sure which is better.

I am entertained by them not bothering to announce matches for the undercard. Since they’re no better than half right and don’t mean anything, that’s probably for the best. It’s still too bad they haven’t figured how to announce a start time – that poster lists 6 (bell time?) and AdC’s site goes with 5 (doors open?)

If you check it on Sunday, let me know how it goes.

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01/16: Puebla, Halcon


CMLL (MON) 01/15 Arena Puebla Results [hugo999 @ box y lucha]
1) Fenix, King Jaguar b Espiritu Maligno, Mr. Rafaga
2) Asturiano, Lestat, the Tiger b Fuerza Chicana, Furia Chicana, Siki Osama
3) Mascara Purpura, Stuka Jr., Texano Jr. b Loco Max, Maniacop, Nitro
4) Mistico, Negro Casas, Ultimo Dragon, Volador Jr. b Averno, Efesto, Mephisto, Nitro
5) Shocker b Ultimo Guerrero

Sounds like the main event finish played off the previous ones.

AAA (SUN) 01/14 Plaza de Toros San Roque de Tuxtla, Gutierrez Results [El Heraldo de Chipas]
1) Charly Galan, Dr. Electro b Ying Yang, Tarot Magico II
2) Alebrije & Cuije b Monsther & Chucky [AAA MASCOT TAG]
3) Tarot Magico DQ b El Macho [mask]
4) Gronda II, Octagon b Scorpio Jr., Pirata Morgan

El Macho is Alfredo Vazques, from Estado de Mexico, and he’s been wrestling 20 years. He lost his mask by accidentally hitting the referee. That sucks.

Noticias de Oaxaca has a profile on Los Misioneros de Oaxaca.

Halcon #84 features an interview with Sangre Azteca (happy with 2006 but wants better in 2007), an interview with the Kamoa family, q&a with [Mini] Fantasy (who mentions he beat someone named Victorioso for his mask in Oaxaca) and a bio of Circulo Rojo (former wrestler now trainer).

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01/15: Coliseo, Neza, Merida, Warner


CMLL (SUN) 01/14 Arena Coliseo Results [cmll, ova]
1) Bracito de Oro, Mini Olimpico b Mini Mr. Aguila, Sombrita
2) Flash, Sensei, Super Nova b Artillero, Super Comando, Zayco
3) Dr. X, Hooligan, Mr. Mexico b Mascara Purpura, Tony Rivera, Virus
4) Lizmark, Mictlan, Satanico DQ Emilio Charles Jr., Okumura, Pierroth
5) Dr. Wagner Jr., Mistico, Volador Jr. b Averno, Mephisto, Universo 2000

I think you know the main event finish. Semimain saw the first two falls go to count outs, and Pierroth fake a foul in the third fall but get caught. Please don’t let that match make TV, thanks.

On the same day, Averno beat Mistico in Arena Neza to retain the CMLL Middleweight Championship. They’ve been pushing Los Rayo Tapatios strong as a local tag team there since CMLL took it back over (again.)

Reyes del Ring (SUN) 01/14 Poliforum Zamna de Merida Results [el halcon]
1) Estrella de Fuego, Misterio Maya b Fuego Infernal, Haragan
2) Halcon Rojo, Halcon Rojo Jr., Lobo Salvaje b Amenaza Roja, Angelito Vengador, Cobra Man
3) El Fantasma, Linda Warrior b El Hijo de Hanibal, Linda Star
4) Villano III, Villano IV b Groon XXX, Hijo del Solitario
5) Hijo del Santo, Latin Lover b Blue Demon Jr., Shocker

Villano III and Hijo del Solitario agreed to a hair/mask match, but we’ll see if it happens.

Warner and CMLL are working together to produce some CMLL cartoons and comics, feature guys like Los Perros, Mistico, and the Guerreros. They’ll start appearing in March, and they say you’ll be able to buy them over the internet. (Esto)

Mundo De Hoy has a preview of the CMLL VIP show this Saturday and an interview with the promoters. They’ve got the familiar story of wanting to be luchadores, training and their parents not liking the idea, but the unfamiliar twist of actually listening to their parents.

- Luchas 2000 #351 has Perro Aguayo Jr.
- Super Luchas #195 has an interview with Nicho

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01/13: Accion

CMLL: Perros vs tecnicos from Arena Mexico. Lots of Perros highlights. Perro’s filming Hector with a camera when Wagner launches off the ramp onto Wagner, and then that starts the comebacks. Garza pulls the mask and ditches it, and Perro pins him for the win.

AAA: Parka, Gronda, Octagon vs Cibernetico, Chessman, Charly Manson from the last taping of ’06. Seems like the same match they were doing before the Hellbrothers became tecnicos, except the Hell Brothers are actually going to win before the Sect runs out and beats them up.

Did La Parka Jr. get suspended on TV? I’m not quite following the thread on Box Y Lucha, but it sounds like he got suspended for “one week” (one episode of TV, or it’s long been over since this episode was taped weeks ago.)

My TiVo is acting very strange today, so it may be a while before I can get to reviews and/or recover from the pain of it not taping the season premiere of 24. Yay for pirated video on the internet.

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Who is Paris?

Play the guessing game yourself, based on pictures from Guerreros del Ring (and before someone puts up in luchawiki)

pictures after the link

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01/13 (2): TV Roundup

Guerreros del Ring aired:
01/05 Mexico: Lady Apache, Marcela, Sahori b Amapola, Hiroka, Mima Shimoda
01/07 Coliseo Alex Koslov, Averno, Mephisto b Felino, Sagrado, Volador Jr.
Unmasked: Paris, who is…wait, I don’t know! Hmmmmmmm.

AAA on Gala aired:
Best of, part one.

I watched about three minutes, and then I started fast fowarding and picking thru the whole thing. I love it, because they do all the standups at the AAA Year End Party, and you’ve got guys in gimmick wandering around behind the announcers – the Scarecrows in suits, just hanging out, is worth the price of admission alone. Good fun for a recap show, it seemed.

Box Y Lucha changed their website a little bit, and uploaded a ton of articles. I’ll cover it sometime this week, but I wanted to mention it’s out there.

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