GdR #67

Aired 03/03

Thanks to random shoutouts, I know I’m the only person who saw this show, so I’ve got no one to help me settle this important debate – which was worse?

– Mogur and Arkangel with an ill-planned Doomsday Device
– Universo spinning around like a top as he runs cross ring, for no reason.

That’s not the first time he’s done that, right? This SEEMS like a reoccurring Universo thing.

I don’t understand the point of Blue Panther working house CMLL tecnico style. I mean, I know I came along when Panther was already on the way down and I really need to get back to people to get those older DVD already, but even after they turned him tecnico and he got lost in the mix, he’d doat least a couple cool things each match. Lately, he’s just been A Guy – a prescene so little memorable, I have to recheck the lineup after the fact to remember he was there.

When I saw him live, I saw those cool things. But he worked as a rudo.

Most of the young guys, among those who are getting any push, are on the tecnico side, so you’d think it’d be time to change him back to the old crafty rudo. But that’s no special insight – the people who make the decisions surely see the same and aren’t doing it, so there’s something I’m missing here.

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03/09 Lucha Times

FWIW: Daylight Savings time starts on Sunday in the United States and Canada. If you’re in Mexico, it’s still starting the normal time. If you’re elsewhere, post a comment!

AAA on GALA: Latin Lover returns! Billy Boy vs Gran Apache in the 500th AAA Bull Terrier match in the last two years! Other possibly good stuff!

GdR: Since the last time I whined about it, they’ve been starting to take Mexico terceras instead of segundas (Universo don’t work segundas, so last week counts), so I think we’ve getting the Averno/Mephisto/Sangre vs Panther/Maximo/Mascara match instead of the women’s trio. I may be slightly wishcasting. Also, the Leono/Mogur madness.

FSE: I think it’ll be a big man’s semimain and then what looks like a really fun main event: Mistico/Volador/Shocker vs Warrior/Averno/Mephesto

FSE’s listings still say Rey Bucanero vs Damian 666 – Victor pointed this out over on DVDVR earlier this week. Searching…

The only time Rey and Damian have met in Coliseo/Mexico this year was being on opposite sides of the trios match that aired last week. So I think it’s a typo and I’m going to ignore it, but if I’m missing something, let me know.

AAA in Mexico: Hell Brothers vs the Vipers, WSX cameos

CMLL in Mexico:
03/04 Coliseo: Fabián el Gitano, Starman, Tony Rivera b Apocalipsis, Hooligan, Ramstein
(finally, YOU get stuck with him)
03/09 Mexico: Alex Koslov, Místico, Rey Bucanero vs Averno, Black Warrior, Mephisto
03/09 Mexico: Marco Corelone vs Universo 2000


03/07: Coliseo


CMLL (TUE) 03/06 Arena Coliseo
1) Espíritu Maligno & Karisma b Cobalto & Vaquero
2) Kid Tiger, Starman, Super Nova b Artillero, Polvora, Super Comando
3) Tigre Blanco, Tigre Metálico, Tony Rivera b Arkangel de la Muerte, Hooligan, Loco Max
4) La Máscara, Sagrado, Satánico b Emilio Charles Jr., Máscara Año 2000, Pierroth
5) Dos Caras Jr., Heavy Metal, Lizmark Jr. b Damián 666, Halloween, Mr. Águila

Clean sweep!

CMLL (MON) 03/05 Domo de la Feria []
1) Lizmark, Maximo, Volador Jr. b Eclipse, Halloween, Misterioso II
2) Heavy Metal, Mistico, Rey Bucanero b Averno, Heavy Metal, Hector Garza

“Nearly 5,000 fans”. I guess I had this show as the wrong day?

AAA Baja California (THU) 03/08 Auditorio Municipal Baja California [el sol de tijuana]
1) Bull Rider vs Soark
2) Angel Mensajero, Camaleon, Rubi Gardenia vs King Azteca, Pandillero I, Pandillero II
3) Rossy Moreno & Tiffany vs Estrellita & Martha Villalobos
4) Super Astro, Tinieblas, Zorro vs Fuerza Guerrera, Juventud Guerrera, Zumbido
5) Nicho & Rey Misterio Sr. vs Abismo Negro & Psicosis II
6) Charly Manson, Chessman, Cibernetico vs Elegido, La Parka Jr., Octagon

indy (THU) 03/22 Arena Solidadidad
1) Mini Damian 666 & Mini Halloween vs Mini Olimpico & Ultimo Dragoncito
2) Hiroka & Mima Shimoda vs Lady Apache & Marcela
3) Arkangel, Efesto, Mephisto vs La Mascara, Maximo, Volador Jr.
4) Dr. Wagner Jr., Mistico, Silver King vs Atlantis, Averno, Ultimo Guerrero

AAA posted a news update, confirming the Rey de Reyes bits we’d heard elsewhere – Rey Misterio to appear, 4 teams in the final (though they still don’t explain how).

Tonight’s the Tijuana Box Y Lucha commission banquet.

Fantastic piece of gossip which I believe came from the Observer, but I don’t recall 100% off the top of my head, so let’s just source it to Steve Sims: Recall how Latin Lover complained about Intocable and Elegido stealing his gimmick, and refusing to come back to AAA unless they were gone? He kinda got his wish. Those two guys are still with AAA, but AAA’s promised Latin that any show he’s booked on, they won’t be. Check for yourself – Latin’s worked the 03/03 taping and will work Rey de Reyes, and Intocable and Elegidio have the night off.

One other newsbit I’m sure came from the Observer – when Mistico did his WWE tryout, besides working with Dean Malenko, he also worked with Jamie Noble. That sounds like the greatest thing ever; Noble could SO be WWE’s Averno. Of course, I probably think way to highly of Noble – if you told me Mistico would get buried for 2 years in WWE but have a series of 10+ min matches with Jamie Noble on Velocity Redux, I’d strongly consider it – so don’t listen to me

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AAA #613

taped 01/25, aired in the US on 02/24

I dunno if I was just bored in general watching this show, or if I was bored specifically here. My compulsion to catch up was only slightly greater than my boredom.

Reason I hate AAA #342: 22 minute matches with absolutely no meaning, because everyone in the building knows they’re just setting up a ref/wrestler angle.

Tag team matches are too long, especially since they’re the same formula and it’s worse when it’s two tecnico teams and they work the same formula because – that’s all they can do? That’s all they think the crowd will dig?

The main event matches aren’t all that great, but at least it feels like we’re going somewhere with them – not only the La Parka Jr. mystery, but the Sect keeps winning, which helps fix the credibility problems. And it’s a lot more entertaining than slow count/fast count, which seems to occur 3 times on an average show. (This was below average, yay.)

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03/06: Tijuana, XLAW, Monterrey, Mistico


Latin Lover has been added back to’s list of wrestler profiles.

CMLL (MON) 03/05 Arena Puebla [hugo999]
1) King Jaguar & Super Star b Fuerza Tiger & La Mafia
2) Espiritu Maligno, Karissma, Toro Bill Jr. b Astruiano, Forajido, the Tiger
3) Fabian el Gitano, Mictlan, Stuka Jr. b Kraken, Negro Navarro, Okumura
4) Blue Panther, Dos Caras Jr., Sagrado b Mephisto, Olimpico, Siki Osama Jr.
5) Alex Koslov, Marco Corelone, Shocker b Atlantis, Ultimo Guerrero, Universo 2000

indy (FRI) 03/02 Auditorio de Tijuana [elsoldetijuana]
1) Hades & Mr. Maldito b Arlequin & TG Power
2) Scream, Tazmania, Viernes 13 DQ Eclipe-C, Kimura, Ricochet
3) Colibri, Extasis, Star Boy DQ Angel Negro, Animaniac, Pancho Cachondo
4) Arandu, Mortiz, TJ Boy b Kiss Jr., Rey Misterio, Super Astro
5) Dr. Wagner & Ultimo Dragon DQ LA Park & Tajiri

Park fouled Wagner and got caught. They’re now teasing a UWA Heavyweight Title match.

NWA XLAW (SUN) 03/04 Coliseo Tulancingo [superluchas]
1) Cerebro Negro & Fantasma de la Opera b Dr. Cerebro & Suicida
2) Amo de la Noche b Skayde Jr., Talaxis
3) Feroz & Geneis b Kaleth & Nemesis IWRG
4) Hiromi Horguchi & Katsumi Kania b Epidemia & Heavy Boy
5) Freelance b Avisman, Chapuline Negro
6) Chad Malenko b Kushida
7) Ultimo Dragon b Extreme Tiger, Tajiri [1, NWA HEAVY]

Not sure if that was still a #1 Contenders match (or if I got it right to begin with.)

indy (SUN) 03/11 Deportivo Lee Roy
1) Rey Temepstad & Sepultura vs Black Bull & Terrorista
2) Shiriken vs Pancho Nopales [super libre]
3) Chanque, Circus, Payasito vs Insolito, Muerte Negra, Vigilante
4) Diamante Negro, Moro Jr., Oso Negro Jr. vs Centella Azul Jr., Espacial, Indio Chirikawa II
5) Tackle vs Psycho [trofeo cibernetico]

Tackle is putting up his trophy from winning that cibernetico with CMLL guys over the winner.

AAA (TUE) 03/06 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Borrico vs Angel Negro
2) La Sombra vs Black Diamond
3) Ejecutor vs Loco Tormenta
4) Al Barone vs Silver Star
5) Golden Boy & Hijo de Anibal vs Hijo de Solitario & Pancho Tequila

IWRG (SUN) 03/11 Arena Naucalpan
1) Aguila Oriental vs Sasaki
2) Antaris & Ave Fenix vs Black Jaguar & Vampiro Metalico
3) Kai, Kid Tiger, Yamato vs Super Colt, Trauma I, Trauma II
4) Dandy, Solar I, Suicida vs Enterrador, Mascara Ano 2000 Jr., Pierroth Jr.

La Presna jumps on the “there’s no way Mistico could possibly go to WWE” line, saying that Mistico’s already booked for months from now (and no one ever misses a booking) and is scheduled to start on a telenovela soon (?). It’s, uh, interesting how this article and the one yesterday are basically followup pieces to articles they never wrote.

This AP Story (which got picked up everywhere) about visiting Mexico City on $20 or less recommends lucha, of course.

The intrepid traveler on a budget shouldn’t miss the Lucha Libre, the Mexican version of the WWF, where you can see masked, muscly giants like Mistico and Blue Panther pummel one another in a crusty downtown arena that will bring Jack Black’s “Nacho Libre” to life.

No offense to Panther, but I’ve never thought of him that way. The article says tickets are already on ticketmaster – not yet, as far I’ve seen.

Guerreros del Ring #77 has Shu El Guerrero. Did they start to run out of people?
Box Y Lucha #2808 has Mistico vs Perro

El Halcon #87 is up.
– Q&A with Satanico
– Interview with Electroshock. There’s a cool poster of him here (which is saying something)
– Tijuana recap.
– Interview with Ogun. Ogun says the most important part of wrestling is having a good body, which is what you’d think he’d say.
– Quick Trueno Bio
– Interview with Tigre Blanco. They’ve got quite a few this week.
– Bio of el Cobarde
– More history of the original El Halcon magazine

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GdR #66

aired 02/24

Mogur’s doing this feud with Leono because:
– Loco Max lost his hair on June 5th
– Mr. Mexico lost his hair on August 7th
– Okumura lost his hair on June 18th
– Emilio Charles Jr. lose his hair on October 29th

That’s about it for unmasked midcard rudos who on TV even close to regularly. (Ohara’s a special case.) They must like Leono, but not enough to actually have him beat a guy for a mask, and Mogur was around, so…Also, both Mogur and Leono are cat people. That’s vital.

Is there any special appeal of Mogur I’m missing? Is there something in his work I should pay more attention to?

I know this seems like my solution to everything, but a minor title feud would probably be better than this. I don’t think there’s any drama in this feud, and there’s not much else.

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03/05: Coliseo, IWRG, Monterrey, Magazines


Ovaciones dismisses the idea of Mistico going to WWE, saying he’s locked into a contract with CMLL. I’m glad that’s over. (not) It is nice people are daring to mention it. Ovaciones actual point here is suggesting that major companies respect each other’s contracts, which they should but – it’s the WWE, they don’t.

CMLL (SUN) 03/04 Arena Coliseo [cmll, ova]
1) Mini Olimpico & Shockercito b Fire & Sombrita
2) Fabian el Gitano, Starman, Tony Rivera b Apocalipsis, Hooligan, Ramstein
3) Leono, Tigre Blanco, Tigre Metalico b Hijo de Pierroth, Mogur, Mr. Mexico
4) Olimpico, Pierroth, Universo 2000 b Dos Caras Jr., Lizmark Jr., Marco Corleone
5) Mistico, Shocker, Volador Jr. b Averno, Black Warrior, Mephisto

Universo fouled Marco to pick up the win that match. Befor the tercera, Mogur said he’d only agree to a hair match with Leono if Leono beat him clean – so Leono did.

IWRG (SUN) 03/04 Arena Naucalpan [ova]
1) Aguila Oriental & Celestial b Extrano & Mr. Randal
2) Airon Boy & Antaris b Sadico & Vampiro Metalico
3) Kai, King Boy, Yamato b Kraneo, Peligro, Sadico
4) Bestia Salvaje, Black Terry, Veneno b Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro, Suicida
5) El Dandy DQ Villano IV

IV replaced III in the main event. Dandy claims Villano III is a coward. Rudos left the tecnicos(/IWRG Trios champs) bloody in the semimain.

Hoy Laredo hypes up a match between Konan Big and Mario Bezares tonight in Arena Cuartro Caminos.

Torreon’s Box Y Lucha Comission is shutting down shows starting next weekend if everyone doesn’t get licensed. They’re allowing people to license at the arena on Monday and Thursday, but after that, everyone’s in trouble. (El Siglo de Torreon) Someone at this paper should maybe ask a promoter or a wrestler about this at some point – why aren’t they licensed? If the commission is a powerless group that just rants to the newspaper, that’s a story too.

indy (SUN) 03/04 Arena Coliseo Monterrey [rfc]
1) La Pulga & Ricochet b La Furia & Payaso Loco
2) Corrico, Gardenia, Rosa Salvaje b Armageddon, Burrito, Rey Apostol
3) Difunto I & Difunto II b Corazon Adicto & Sky and Androide & Rey Sagitario
4) Hijo de Espanto II, Pancho Tequila, Potro Jr. b Black Dragon, El Original, Golden Boy
5) Konnan Big b Axxel, Hijo de Solitario, Hijo de Anibal [FILL MIDDLE]

As I read it, Axxel filled in for Rayo de Jalisco Jr., who missing absence when he was due to lose a title, huh. Axxel was FILL Middleweight Champion, who knew? Konnan Big picks up the title, so he’s been FILL Heavyweight, Light Heavyweight, and Middleweight champion over a short time, and in that order. Did Monterrey put in Wellness Program?

AAA (SUN) 03/04 Plaza de Toros La Esperanza [marcomejia2, rfc]
1) Rey Imagen & Virutal X b Euforia & Iron
2) Orus & The Mummy b Apolo Negro & Ben Hur
3) Mini Chessman & Mini Psicosis b Mini Path Finder & Octagoncito
4) Humberto Garza Jr. & Xochitl Hamada b Miss Janeth & Rey Infernal
5) Antifaz, Cirujano, Jordy Stone b Corazon de Barrio, El Brazo, Mascara Divina
6) Brazo de Plata, Chessman, Octagon b Fuerza Guerrera, Hator, Nicho

Super Luchas 202 has Super Crazy picking up Mistico at the airport. Question for Mr. Ocampo: why do you post more of your magazine on Box Y Lucha’s forum than your own site? Super Luchas has your IWA-MS guys in AAA pictures, for those looking.
Luchas 2000 358 tease mask vs hair. They’re also teasing Lizmark Jr. rudo for what seems like the third or fourth time in the last year. Put aside that Ultimo could do a lot better than Lizmark Jr. – Julio Cesar Rivera would seem to be plugged in about these things, but this one has gotten stuck. Lucha 2000 Special 19 has moves moves moves.

I’ve figured out why Robert is getting different tag team results than I am – he’s reading a different recap (el martiente) than I am (Satanico’s Mansion.) One recap says Zumbido caused a double pin (which can’t be anything but a 1 point each draw), one recap says clean pin for Zumbido. Double pins are easy to miss if you’re not at the right angle or looking for ‘em, so I tend to believe it’s a draw, but I’ll wait for AAA to confirm.

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03/25 AAA TV lineup

Previous: 03/10 (lineup), 03/18 (lineup), 03/19 (lineup)

this is the second taping I’m posting today – see the previous one below and the change to the Rey de Reyes lineup

AAA TV (SUN) 03/25 Plaza de Toros de Tula, Hidalago
1) Gallego & Mr. Condor vs Chiva Rayada I & Chiva Rayada II
2) Alan, Billy Boy, Decnnis vs Crazy Boy, Joe Lider, Psicosis
3) Martha Villalobos vs Tiffany, Estrellita, Rossy Moreno, Cinthia Moreno, Fabi Apache, Miss Janeth, La Diabolica, Lola Gonzalez, Vicki Carranza, La Chola, La Hechicera, Joseline, Lady Rabbit, Mujer Demente, Sexi Star [Reina de Reinas, torneo]
4) Alan Stone, Hator, Scorpio Jr., Zumbido vs Alebrije, Intocable, Oriental, Zorro
5) Cibernetico vs La Parka Jr. vs Nicho [bull terrier]

Air Date: (projected)
Mexico: 04/08
US: 04/28

That main event is interesting. If La Parka Jr. was ever going to go rudo, that would be the moment to do it. Neither of these two tapings (nor really Rey de Reyes) seem to be moving much along, but obviously that main event could shake things up.

Nice to see Lady Rabbit get her annual TV appearance. I have no idea what they’ll be doing with Reina de Reinas and I’m not sure it matters much. (Though Miss Janeth is back on TV and actually wearing the belt. Took 9 months.)

No Mexican Powers, no Consgrados, no Octagon for two weeks after Rey de Reyes. Hmmmmm. I’d trade the Mexican Powers for the Chivas any day.

Next taping is probably not until April, I’d guess.

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03/19 AAA TV taping lineup

Previous: 03/03, 03/10 (lineup), 03/18 (lineup)

AAA TV (MON) 03/19 Domo De La Feria de Leon Lineup
1) Aero Star, Jesse, ? vs Ghefar, Policeman, Toxico
2) Pimpinela, Mascarita Sagrada, Sexi Star, Billy Boy vs Polvo de Estrellas, Mini Abismo Negro, Fabi Apache, El Apache
3) Pegaso, Super Fly, Rey Cometa, Laredo Kid vs Cuervo, Scoria, Ozz, Espiritu
4) La Parka Jr., Elegido, Zorro, Super Porky vs Abimo Negro, Antifaz, Mr. Niebla, Histeria
5) Cibernetico, Chessman, Charly Manson vs Nicho, ?, ??

Air Date: (projected)
Mexico: 04/01
US: 04/21

I hope that’s not a typo and Mascarita Sagrada is back and healthy. It’s Mini Abismo on the other side, so I imagine so.

This is one day after Rey de Reyes, so they’ll be backlogging TV tapings again. This is an off Monday for TNA – no taping, so the guys who worked the night before will be available to be the mystery guys on this show. As usual, the mystery guys in the main event are unnamed Foreign Legion members.

First time four of Fuerza Aerea have been together since last summer, because of Laredo Kid’s elevation and the AAA Tag Tournament. Nemesis isn’t there, but Pegasso has been treated like an official member of the group. Looks like Sexi Star – new spelling? typo? who can say – is going to be a regular.

Card seems short a match – maybe because we’ve no longer got a tag team tournament, maybe because that opener is dark match material. There’s going to be some long matches, or a lot of filler.

Note Gronda II going back to being Ghefar – there’s been talk lately that Groon might turn up back here, but he (predictably) wants too much money.

CMLL guys are running this building on 03/09, with Mistico/Rey/Metal vs Perro/Garza/Aguila.

Next taping is 03/25.


03/04: Ultimo Dragon @ Coliseo, Accion

UDG (SUN) 03/04 Arena Coliseo [Mostro_K-Bron @ Satanico's Mansion]
1) Bryan Lee, Kazuchika Okada, Toshiya Matsuzaki b Arkangel, Daisuke Hanakoa, Negro Navarro
2) Mima Shimoda & Sahori b La Nazi & Rosa Negra
3) Shocker b Chad Malenko [NWA IJH, torneo, qf]
4) Hirooki Goto b Veneno [NWA IJH, torneo, qf]
5) Alex Koslov b Pierroth Jr. [NWA IJH, qf, torneo]
6) Ultimo Dragon DDQ Tajiri [NWA IJH, torneo, qf]
7) Brazo de Oro, La Mascara, Loco Max b Hajime Ohara, Hiromi Horiguchi, Okumura
8) Shocker b Alex Koslov [NWA IJH, torneo, sf]
9) Hirooki Goto b Shocker [NWA IJH, torneo, final]

In their match, Tajiri blew mist at Dragon when he went for a top rope ‘rana, Dragon faked a foul, and the ref decided that was enough of that. This gave Goto a bye to the final, and while Shocker gave him a hard fight, Goto beat him to take the title. Goto becomes the 18th champion, and the first after a 22 year hiatus. I have no idea what (or WHO) is going with this belt.

There was an opener that the reviewer didn’t catch. La Mascara beat Ohara to win that match, so they might still be feuding, once every four months. I’m not completely sure which Pierroth that was, but I’m going with the name they’ve been using. Next big DF show for this group is May 12th, I believe – it doesn’t matter enough to go back and check.


CMLL: Mistico vs Perro, what else? Mistico got busted one and his mask ripped apart in here, but railed to get in a dive and a La Mistica. Not as much shown of this match as I thought there might

AAA: Joe Lider, Crazy Boy, Psicosis vs Black Buffalo, Spider Nate Webb, Josh Raymond – Tim’s totally right, Josh Raymond gets wheel kicked in the face and that’s the end of Josh Raymond. Chessman helped drag Psicosis onto Black Buffalo for the pin, so there was likely some wackiness we didn’t otherwise see.

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