CMLL/NFL Mexico, AAA/Orizaba, Big Lucha

CMLL

Ticketmaster says CMLL Aniversario’s show has sold out. CMLL hasn’t made an announcement yet. This is the second straight year CMLL’s sold out the show prior to the day of the event. Ticket sales seemed ahead of pace early but seemed a little slower to finish out. They got there nearly a week ahead of time. You can still buy it on PPV, and I’m certain there will be a busy reseller market around Arena Mexico on the day of the show.

The Aniversario is on Saturday. There is no Friday Arena Mexico show, and no Saturday Arena Coliseo show as a result. We’ll all forget sometime this week but I may run this explanation into this ground.

CMLL (FRI) 09/08/2023 Arena México [CMLL, Estrellas del RIngExcelsiorKaiser SportsThe Gladiatores (video), thecubsfan]
1) Kaligua & Pequeño Magía b Mercurio & Pierrothito  (posted by riotlucha) CMLL - PEQ. PIERROTH - MERCURIO VS KALIGUA - PEQ. MAGIA / ARENA MÉXICO / 08-09-23 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL: Kaligua y Pequeño Magia derrotan a Pierrothito y Mercurio (posted by mluchatv)
8:23
2) La Jarochita & Zeuxis b Lluvia & Stephanie Vaquer [Relevos IncreíblesCMLL - JAROCHITA - ZEUXIS VS LLUVIA - STEPHANIE VAQUER / ARENA MÉXICO / 08-09-23 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL: Zeuxis y Jarochita fueron las ganadoras en la lucha de Amazonas ante Stephanie Vaquer y Lluvia (posted by mluchatv) Jarochita y Zeuxis derrotan a Lluvia y Stephanie Vaquer dejando el ring calientito (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
9:35. Both teams had issues in the third fall, and fell back to teaming with their usual partner by the end of the match.
3) Rugido b Capitán SuicidaStar BlackStigmaDark PantherHombre Bala Jr.Max StarZandokan Jr.AkumaHijo del Villano IIIEl CoyoteCrixus [Copa Independencia, semifinalCMLL - 2A. FASE DE LA COPA INDEPENDENCIA / ARENA MÉXICO / 08-09-23 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) Final entre Rugido y Star Black para disputar el último boleto a la Copa Independencia 2023 (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre) Rugido va al 90 Aniversario tras derrotar a Star Black en la segunda eliminatoria (posted by mluchatv)
40:18. Capitan Suicida replaced Dulce Gardenia. Order of elimination: Max Star (by Hombre Bala), Coyote (Crixus), Hombre Bala (Zandokan), Suicida (Villano III), Stigma (Akuma), Villano III (Rugido), Akuma (Zandokan), Zandokan (Dark Panther), Crixus (Star Black), Dark Panther (Rugido), Star Black (Rugido)
4) Volador Jr. b Bárbaro Cavernario [lightning¡Triunfo depredador! 38 segundos antes de finalizar el tiempo, Volador Jr derrota a B. Cavernario (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre) CMLL - MATCH RELÁMPAGO / B. CAVERNARIO VS VOLADOR JR. / ARENA MÉXICO / 08-09-23 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL: Volador Jr derrota a Bárbaro Cavernario en Match Relámpago (posted by mluchatv)
9:20.
5) Atlantis Jr., Máscara Dorada, Místico b Guerrero Maya Jr., Templario, Titán [Relevos IncreíblesCMLL - GRO. MAYA JR.-TITÁN-TEMPLARIO VS MÁSCARA DORADA-ATLANTIS JR.-MÍSTICO/ARENA MÉXICO/08-09-23 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL: Místico, Atlantis Jr. y Máscara Dorada vencen a Guerrero Maya Jr., Templario y Titán (posted by mluchatv) Místico, Máscara Dorada y Atlantis Jr se llevan el triunfo ante Guerrero Maya Jr, Templario y Titán (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
14:33. Each CMLL player dressed in the colors and were seconded by an NFL mascot, as part of a promotion with NFL Mexico. Teams: Atlanits Jr. (Dallas Cowboys), Mascara Dorada (Los Angeles Rams), Mistico (Denver Broncos, lead group), Guerrero Maya Jr. (Kansas City Cheifs), Templario (Las Vegas Raiders), Titan (Arizona Cardinals.) Mistico submitted Templario, though Templario’s team would win the Week 1 match up.

In retrospect, Guerrero Maya’s big main event spot was because NFL Mexico requested an all-mask man main event, Maya had Cheifs colored gear, and Maya was available for both this show and the watch party on Sunday. (Maybe it helped that both Maya and the Chiefs are native gimmicks; probably that’s more thought they gave.) Maya did well; this was really more about the NFL. This wasn’t literally a NFL Mexico sold show, but it was fairly close with all the promotional work they were doing before and after the show. Again, it was weird more than it was annoying, and the big matches all had good energy (which isn’t always the case with sponsored stuff.) It’s not a great placement for CMLL to have their final show to build up the Aniversario, but it was also the final show to build up Week 1 of the NFL season, and that took priority. CMLL had a lot of Denver Bronco fans in attendance so they made money that way, and there was likely some other sponsorship payment.

CMLL and the NFL mascots did promotional work on Thursday and Friday, then Templario and Guerrero Maya Jr. appeared at a watch party for Sunday’s Denver Broncos/Las Vegas Raiders game. (Templario’s Raiders won.) Friday’s Arena Mexico show included the mascots doing a pre-show workout. It was basically the same tumbling and basic wrestling drills students do before the weightlifting contest each year (or before the IWRG FILL shows.) Seeing people in mascot costumes doing lockups and jumping jacks was obviously bizarre, but it was fun enough.

The main event was fun, as said previously. Volador and Cavernario worked hard for the time they had. The cibernetico was stretched too long for me, and CMLL does the “one guy beats two at the end to shockingly win” bit too often as an ending, but there were good stretches to be found in there. Zeuxis & Vaquer were great in their tag match and they had a logical build to next week’s bigger one. The minis had a lot of effort, if not the best execution. It was a good Friday night show, even as an advertisement for something non-wrestling.

The best thing about Rugido versus Esfinge is they can cut the time drastically if need be and no one will be unhappy.

CMLL (SAT) 09/09/2023 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Micro Gemelo Diablo I & Micro Gemelo Diablo II b Mije & Periquito Sacaryas
2) La Magnifica, La Vaquerita, Metálica b Amapola, La Guerrera, La Maligna [Relevos Increíbles]
3) El Coyote, Okumura, Raider b Arkalis, Pegasso, Rey Samuray
Raider replaced Polvora
4) Valiente b Felino [lightning]
5) Espíritu Negro, Rey Cometa, Volcano b Gemelo Diablo I, Gemelo Diablo II, Sagrado
6) Ángel de Oro, Hechicero, Niebla Roja b Atlantis Jr., Soberano Jr., Star Jr.

A show.

CMLL (SUN) 09/10/2023 Arena México [CMLL, Kaiser Sports]
1) Minos & Pequeño Violencia b Galaxy & Shockercito
2) Astral, Diamond, Valiente Jr. b Dr. Karonte I, Dr. Karonte II, Raider
Tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Blue Panther Jr., Flyer, Magia Blanca b Difunto, El Coyote, Felino Jr.
Coyote replaced Misterioso
4) Reyna Isis b La Catalina [lightning]
5) Blue Panther, Panterita del Ring, Valiente b Magnus, Rey Bucanero, Villano III Jr.
Magnus & Villano III had issues
6) Dragón Rojo Jr., Terrible, Volador Jr. b Euforia, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr.

Villano III Jr. and Magnus seems like a lightning match set up, though it also seems like two guys who might genuinely not get along. Villano III Jr. jumping to CMLL and getting big spots right away probably is a hard pill for guys who’ve been grinding away there for a long time.

CMLL (TUE) 09/12/2023 Arena México
1) Angelito, Kaligua, Pequeño Magía vs Acero, Aéreo, Galaxy
2) La Guerrera, La Magnifica, Skadi vs Hera, Olympia, Reyna Isis
3) Pelon Encapuchado vs El Coyote [lightning]
4) Fugaz, Star Jr., Valiente vs Gemelo Diablo I, Gemelo Diablo II, Sagrado
5) Star Black & Titán vs Bárbaro Cavernario & Terrible
6) Atlantis Jr., Hechicero, Máscara Dorada vs Euforia, Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. [Relevos Increíbles]

Some very random matches on this show. The main event is a result of Euforia & Soberano having to team, but the semi-main is some people who don’t interact much. I suspect Pelon will not be losing the next couple of months.

The Titan title match moved into the main event spot for the Night of Champions show. It had 27 more votes than than the minis match when I checked this afternoon. (Nothing else is within a thousand votes.) The Titan match moved into the top spot because of Fugaz fans rallying behind their guy. He’s still over 2,300 votes behind Mascara Dorada. I guess the matches will be revealed on the 09/20 edition of CMLL Informa, meaning Fugaz has to pick up at least 230 votes on Dorada every day to catch up. He’s only done that one day so far. Fugaz fans are going to have to stuff the ballot and the Dorada fans are going to have stop for it to have a chance.

Pierrothito has blown past Minos. Less people are voting in that minis category overall, which is why it’s slipped to second. The closest battle for a spot is now Averno and Esfinge, separated by just over 500 votes.

Lady Frost posted that she “won’t be able to compete in CMLL his year“, which presumably means good fortune to her on getting AEW/ROH bookings.

Heraldo Deportes has an interview with Satanico about various topics. He says he’s maybe retiring from the ring a year. He’s not committed to that timeline, just letting how his body and his desire to keep wrestling drive the decision. If he got to pick his retirement match, it’d be him, Averno and Mephisto against Ultimo Guerrero, Rey Bucanero, and another. Satanico claims he was the first person to tie Octagon’s mask to the ropes, a spot that’s been done hundreds of times since (including last Friday on AEW Rampage with Penta.) A lot of rudo bits people credit to Eddie Guerrero and others was stuff Satanico seemed to be doing first, but I don’t know if he was also borrowing it from others before him.

Yahoo! has a wire article on CMLL turning 90. There’s probably more of these coming this week.

CMLL left the 09/01 show free to all on their YouTube channel. That’s supposed to be subscriber only, and one of the primary benefits of being a subscriber. CMLL tends to leave it open to the public when it goes live (around 9 pm on Sunday nights) until someone points out their mistake. No one hand, at least of Monday morning.

AAA

AAA finished off the Orizaba taping this weekend. It wasn’t much. Argenis & Puma King versus Octagon & Myzteziz had a couple of spots go awry but the guys were trying hard and it was the best action of the night. The other matches had effort to, they’re just not enjoyable to watch in the dead atmosphere of this show. It was jarring to hear the announcers voices echo around a very quiet arena, especially in the opener. You don’t need to watch this set of TV unless you’re making a point of watching every AAA show possible, and that’ll probably be the case for the next two tapings. The next TV that ‘counts’ is the October 1st live broadcast of Heroes Inmortales.

The “Dinamico wants Sexy Star to join the Mexicali group” might have been less than it seemed. It played out here with Dinamico attempting to help out Sexy Star in the women’s match, only to get destroyed by Las Toxicas repeatedly. Dinamico complained to Konnan about the Toxicas, and Konnan tricked Dinamico into taking a Fiesta Sorpresa from the Psycho Circus. Dinamico yelled about fighting the Toxicas or the Psycho Circus. Dinamico doesn’t face Las Toxicas or Psycho Circus on any of them in any of the three TV tapings. That’s about normal for 2023 AAA, though it seems worth mentioning Dinamico got humiliated multiple times on TV right after he worked The Crash show that AAA wrestlers are not supposed to be working. There were almost no other angles on the entire taping; the only other notable one was La Hiedra attacking Dalys, which seems like AAA intends to do at some point but don’t have it scheduled.

QT Marshall has AAA Latin American championship defenses on 09/24 in London again TBA, 10/02 at his school in Georgia versus Vary Morales, and 10/31 in Georgia for “Modern Age Grappling” against Rey Horus. (That last one might be a reloaded version of Jonathan Greshman’s Terminus; it’s the same Twitter account if you go far back.)

La Aficion has an interview with Murder Clown, who says he was the one who came up with the Psycho Circus concept. AAA gave him the chance to come up with an idea, he was a big KISS fan and thought off their Psycho Circus tour. Dorian Roldan actually went to a show on that tour, loved the concept, and immediately approved the idea.

Panama’s Prensa has an article on Negro Casas & Dalys, but it’s behind a paywall.

Hijo del Vikingo will make his Japanese debut on 10/12 with GCW. It seems like a huge miss that AAA couldn’t swing that deal themselves, selling VIkingo’s first match in Japan seems like a huge deal, but these are also things which don’t seem to concern AAA much.

IWRG

IWRG (SUN) 09/10/2023 Arena Naucalpan [IWRG, Mas Lucha]
1) Águila Roja & Histeriosis b Águila Oriental & Blue Win
2) Noisy Boy, Pequeño Arkano, Spider Boy b Centurion, Gannicus, Rey Espartano
3) Hellboy, Shocko, Último Legendario b Cerebro Negro, Cerebro Negro Jr., Rey Halcón
Hell Boy asked for a tag title match. Rey Halcón replaced Kiki Roberts.
4) Ivan Rokov b Sádika
Sadika wanted an extreme rematch
5) León Dorado, Mr. Leo, Tonalli b Diva Salvaje, Jessy Ventura, Mamba
Lion Brothers challenged Mamba & Diva Salvaje for the RGR TAG
6) Hijo de Canis Lupus b Toxin [RGR HEAVY]

Sunday, Mas Lucha announced, “today, for one time, we’ll show the excitement of Arena Lopez Mateos.” This was odd, because they air events from Arena Lopez Mateos all the time. The “one time” bit seems to be more about not streaming Arena Naucalpan; neither Mas Lucha or IWRG’s YouTube channel has a broadcast of this show. They were both clearly there, taking photos as normal, so maybe it was some technical issue. I’m not sure, no one said a word. Edit: It was not on Mas Lucha’s channel, but it was on IWRG’s channel – though there were technical issues all show.

No IWRG show Thursday.

IWRG (THU) 09/28/2023 Arena Naucalpan
1) Sparta vs RyuPríncipe CentauroLatinoHijo De SpartaGravedad CeroRey Spartano
2) Demencia, Hijo De Brazo De Platino, Reptil vs ?, Amenesia, Gaona
3) Oro Blanco, Papelito, Voltio vs Argus, Eurus, Solido
4) Sádika vs CandelaLa BravaMarinaPrincesa AzulJesse JacksonDanessaReina ObscuraMary Caporal
5) Fandango, Hijo De Carta Brava, Noisy Boy, Spider Fly vs Lunatik Fly, Lunatik Xtreme, Súper Boy, Toto
6) Chico Che, Pantera, Último Vampiro vs Black Dragón, Bombero Infernal, Carta Brava (LLBL)
7) Pig Destroyer, Pig Destructor, Pig Pool vs Gran Pandemónium, Hijo de Pandemónium, Pandemónium Jr.
8) Hell Boy, Hijo de Canis Lupus, Puma de Oro vs Aero Boy, Cíclope, Miedo Extremo
9) Místico & Octagón vs Averno & Fuerza Guerrera

A typical Lucha Libre Boom card: a main event that will probably draw well and as many people as they can possibly book on the rest of the show.

Big Lucha

Big Lucha announced they’ll be back on 09/30, with a Mexico versus the World theme. Or Big Lucha versus GLEAT

Big Lucha (SAT) 09/30/2023 Arena Big Lucha, Iztapalapa, Distrito Federal
1) Nordico vs Sangre Nueva
2) Helios & Urzus Mendoza vs Black Skayde & Odisseo Mendoza
3) 1 vs 2345678910111213141516 [Copa Independencia]
4) Cometa Maya & Radioactivo vs SB KENTo & Takuma
5) Emperador Azteca, Flamita, Orbita, Vengador vs ?, El Potro de Oro, Jack Evans, Watanabe

CIMA will also be there though, apparently, he’s not the mystery person in the main event. Watanabe appears to be Soma Watanabe. The big theme is Mexico versus the World, which puts Jack Evans on the opposite side of his stablemates. Yutani would fit in the main event to do the same with Flamita & Emperador Azteca, but it could be someone from GLEAT I don’t know about.

A creature named Hannya who looked a lot like Takuma feuded with Radioactivo in 2022. They were scheduled to have a mask match on a Mas Lucha show, Hannya got hurt, the commission decided he was too hurt to do the match, everyone decided the match would happen in Big Lucha instead, and then the match just never happened. I’m still bitter! Perhaps more relevantly, the poster seems to suggest that tag match is for the Big Lucha MIXA titles, when Texano & Super Nova were the ones who won their block. No idea what’s going on.

(There is another Hannya running around low level indies; I presume Takuma sold the gimmick when he thought he was going back to Dragon Gate and never needed it again, and then that didn’t work out.)

I don’t really need another long battle royal. I would like to convince the promotions to run ciberneticos, but they want the entrance pops instead. I’m not sure why this card is so short though.  If there’s a pattern to Big Lucha’s uploads, this show will start to go up on October 5th.

I caught up through the last one and one half Big Lucha shows over the weekend. I hadn’t ever gotten through the whole July 29th event, but there’s no much to write about the second half; there were heated matches without great action.

The August 26th show really wasn’t much stronger. The CMLL stuff seemed to work from a business sense – it appeared to be a bigger crowd, they were very into Mistico – but the matches themselves weren’t a success. Voaldor/Templario vs Averno/Mistico did a house show match, and there was no obvious reason to mix the teams up if they were just going to do that anyway. Los Depredadores weren’t totally into their match and still their match with Delta Force was the best of the three. Locos didn’t show anything against the Malditos, and Black Generation/Infenrales didn’t work at all. Three DQ finishes in those matches also just deflated the crowd. I was relieved not to see CMLL participate on the next show.

Potro de Oro and Emperador Azteca was an OK match between two guys who are usually just OK. I understand the importance of making sure the first Golden Ticket winner is a success and the crowd got into the lockerroom coming together to fight off Black Generation and make sure Potro won, but I was not excited for more matches. (Big Lucha leaving in Bandido congratulating Potro de Oro and then abruptly ending the show was weird.) The Viajero/Brujo vs Andromeda/Carito match was well done for that sort of mixed partner match. Forneo/Skayde worked well for the brutality if it still was that very Mexican wrestling stipulation match where the stipulation only comes in to play on the finish. (The finish did look adequetely painful to keep Forneo down for 10 seconds.) The battle royal was very long and had great moments and moments where everyone looked like the inexperienced wrestlers they are. I think ti was enough that you’d be satisfied if you watched Big Lucha every month but there’s nothing here that an occasional viewer has to see.

Other News

Segunda Caida watched more Monterrey lucha libre.

Lucha Va Voom will have a special show in Los Angeles honoring Cassandro on 09/22. Cassandro was a big part of the early days of that show, and I presume it’s tied to some premiere of the film there. Reviews of the movie are starting to turn up, generally positive. The movie is only airing downtown around me and I’m not sure I’m up for a 9 pm showing (especially when I can just watch it on Amazon in a week), but maybe I’ll figure it out.

Box y Lucha did their weekly old issue drop, this time with end of 1957 issues. (They skipped about five months.) There are only 7 issues this time, which seems to be because they’re throwing in a edition of the monthly Clinch magazine and that’s double the size of a usual Box y Lucha. I need a Box y Lucha contact so I can figure out what issues they’re going to publish and plan accordingly.

Some other match recommendations from the weekend

  • Vikingo vs Arez vs Gringo vs Aramis from F1rst Wrestling was Great. It’s a four-way, so it leans heavily on everyone doing their best stuff rather than a bigger story, but everyone has spectacular stuff. It’s way more than the fans and the announcers were expecting. It’s on FITE (13 USD), and there’s an enjoyable Jah-C/Rey Horus match in the opener as well.
  • West Coast Pro Wrestling has a really good Aramis vs Iron Boy vs Black Taurus match on Sunday. Taurus joined midway through due to legit travel difficulties going cross country from Impact; both he and the promotion could’ve understandably given up (and actually did announce he wouldn’t make it at one point), and deserve credit for preserving through. The show is still up on YouTube for free at the moment, though I believe  the stream is supposed to go to IWTV at some point.

I got mentioned some on AEW Colission on Saturday and then got complimented in a quote tweet by Tony Khan on Twitter on a goof tweet. That was weird! So weird that I know I need to write something about but I’ve been struggling to figure out exactly what to write here for about two days. I’m still not sure. I go back and forth on so many things, and you’re going to be stuck with a stream of thought that ought to have been edited or deleted but there’s just no time.

It’s nice to have your note used on cable TV, it’s stressful when the notes you prepared don’t go exactly as you want because something is changed or something just doesn’t come out how you thought you put it down, and you’re stuck replaying how you could’ve put it better. (The “Marvel and DC” thing was a leftover bit from trying to explain the significance of Metalik being on the same team with Aerostar & Drago to people who have no idea what ‘CMLL’ is, only it never made sense when Metalik was no longer on the team.) It’s also nice to be mentioned on the TV show you’re actually watching or be put over on Twitter, but also it’s just internet cred. I think I have enough internet cred to last a lifetime by now, and it doesn’t get me any closer to the things I really want. I’ve also said this before in this space, but while most everyone I know would be thrilled to be put over on TV or a stream or whatever, I’d be cool if I was never even acknowledged or mentioned. I understand this is an insane position to take even as I write it, but I’m OK with my current level of US fame most days.  The only kind of fame I would like is the one where I could post things like “it’s crazy Joe and Larry aren’t calling the Vikingo/Komander title match, AAA should fix that“, and it would actually get done. But no amount of internet fame among English-speaking fans is going get AAA (or CMLL or most anyone else in the promotions I actually cover) will allow me to really affect things the way I’d like.

The other, thorny issue is that…I’m kinda of not a big fan of how lucha libre is presented in AEW a lot of the time. it’s great that it gets part of the party and that they’re not forced to change styles. It’s also a lot of guys in masks losing a lot of the time.  That trios match I got mentioned in – Dios del Inframundo, Aerostar and Gravity versus Bullet Club Gold – is kind of a classic example of a bunch of luchadors being trucked in to be used as enhancement talent. Maybe it’s the start of longer story with Andrade (who was shown watching the match for no obvious reason.) It still fits the greater pattern, of Komander and Griavty being thrown out on TV a lot to take losses, of Fenix and Penta getting one win before they also take a loss. I’ve mentioned this pattern before, in ways subtle and not so much. Maybe we’ll all be shocked in a few weeks when the teased Rey Fenix versus Jon Moxley match ends with Fenix holding the International Championship over his head in triumph. I don’t think there’s a single person who believes that’s hoping though.

The other thing is – it was an all time solid for AEW to put Dios del Inframundo on US national TV a few months after he changed his gimmick. It wasn’t much of a match, but it was enough to get his name out there. Luchadors are extremely fearful of changing their gimmicks and losing all their bookings, Ex-Drago’s seemed like one where he wasn’t finding a lot of work, and now he’s at least got one big high-profile booking to get the word out there that Dios del Inframundo is the same Drago everyone knew, he’s still in wrestling and he’s very open for work. No guarantee it is going work, but at least he’s got a better shot now. It also feels like he was only there because the team making the decisions isn’t aware of anything lucha libre post-Lucha Underground, to their own deteriment. I like Dios del Inframundo. I like Aerostar. I know those would also struggle to work a US TV style in 2023. I like Gravity, it is great for Gravity to be getting all this experience, but he was also among the least ready of all the regular Big Lucha guys when he got swooped up. AEW seems to make very informed decisions about who they pull in from US indies and they seem pretty knowledgable when they pull in from Japan as well. Pulling in Aerostar and Dios seemed more along the lines of finding the first couple of guys with valid US visas they thought their fans might know because that’s all they knew. (I’m sure AAA was/is upset about it, but it’s more a sign of how little AEW knows about AAA – they wouldn’t have known how to ask for.)

One of things about my Twitter account is a guy a fair amount of DMs that go along the lines of “big fan, being following you for years, you’re the person I go to when I need to know about lucha libre, now I’ve got a question:” and the question is something I feel like I’ve written the answer to about twenty different times. Something they definitely would’ve have said if they were reading as much as they said they were. It’s more a frustration for me than towards the other people – what am I failing to do to get my message across? What different ways can I try to do it if the current way isn’t being heard? – but it’s a frustration nevertheless. It’s great to be acknowledged, it’s more powerful to be heard, and it’s frustrated not to figure out how to broach that gap.

CMLL (& NFL mascots) at Arena Mexico tonight, legends cibernetico on Dia de Luchador

CMLL

Tonight’s show:

CMLL (FRI) 09/08/2023 Arena México
1) Kaligua & Pequeño Magía vs Mercurio & Pierrothito
2) Lluvia & Stephanie Vaquer vs La Jarochita & Zeuxis
3) Dulce Gardenia vs Star BlackStigmaDark PantherHombre Bala Jr.Max StarZandokan Jr.AkumaRugidoHijo del Villano IIIEl CoyoteCrixus [Copa Independencia, semifinal]
4) Volador Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario
5) Atlantis Jr., Máscara Dorada, Místico vs Guerrero Maya Jr., Templario, Titán [Relevos Increíbles]

It’s a show of good matches with not much obvious story to them. Guerrero Maya in a Friday main event – his first one in 12 years – is a cool novelty. It may have to do with the NFL Mexico mascots deal they’re doing, since the preview art has many of them wearing NFL themed gear or colors

  • Mistico – Denver Broncos (lead sponsor)
  • Atlantis Jr. – Dallas Cowboys
  • Mascara Dorada – Los Angeles Rams
  • Templario – Las Vegas Raiders
  • Titan – Arizona Cardinals?
  • Guerero Maya – Kansas City Chiefs?

Mascots for those six teams are scheduled to do some amateur wrestling at 7:30, so the stream will start an hour early. Who even knows what that’ll be. The KC Wolf hasn’t appeared in the promotional stuff so far but I believe they had a game last night. He might just be a late arrival.

Cavernario/Volador is an interesting test to see what both are willing to do in a random Friday singles match. The mixed partners match will probably fall apart but it is at least the best women involved, and the minis match has a good selection as well.

The Copa Independencia is the big event of the night. CMLL just ran Esfinge/Zandokan so that’s probably not getting run again. Akuma got his big match with the hair match, so maybe it’s Rugido’s turn? That’s my best guess.

It’s on Boleita/Neerme for $5 USD as usual.

CMLL (SAT) 09/09/2023 Arena Coliseo
1) Micro Gemelo Diablo I & Micro Gemelo Diablo II vs Mije & Periquito Sacaryas
2) La Magnifica, La Vaquerita, Metálica vs Amapola, La Guerrera, La Maligna [Relevos Increíbles]
3) Arkalis, Pegasso, Rey Samuray vs El Coyote, Okumura, Pólvora
4) Valiente vs Felino [lightning]
5) Espíritu Negro, Rey Cometa, Volcano vs Gemelo Diablo I, Gemelo Diablo II, Sagrado
6) Atlantis Jr., Soberano Jr., Star Jr. vs Ángel de Oro, Hechicero, Niebla Roja

A show.

CMLL (SUN) 09/10/2023 Arena México
1) Galaxy & Shockercito vs Minos & Pequeño Violencia
2) Astral, Diamond, Valiente Jr. vs Dr. Karonte I, Dr. Karonte II, Raider
3) Blue Panther Jr., Flyer, Magia Blanca vs Difunto, Felino Jr., Misterioso Jr.
4) Reyna Isis vs La Catalina [lightning]
5) Blue Panther, Panterita del Ring, Valiente vs Magnus, Rey Bucanero, Villano III Jr.
6) Dragón Rojo Jr., Terrible, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr.

Not much with the anniversary here.

CMLL (MON) 09/11/2023 Arena Puebla
1) Amnesia & Millenium vs Dreyko & Rey Apocalipsis
2) Micro Gemelo Diablo I & Micro Gemelo Diablo II vs Átomo & Chamuel
3) Meyer vs Disturbio [lightning]
4) Espíritu Negro, Rey Cometa, Stigma vs Cancerbero, Luciferno, Virus
5) Máscara Dorada, Soberano Jr., Titán vs Crixus, Difunto, Zandokan Jr.
6) Atlantis Jr., Star Jr., Volador Jr. vs Ángel de Oro, Dragón Rojo Jr., Niebla Roja

Atlantis Jr., Star Jr., and Volador Jr. are the trios champs that no one remembers are the trios champions.

CMLL (TUE) 09/12/2023 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Adira, Alondra, Lady Shadow vs Hatanna, La Pantera, Sexy Sol
2) Katara, Magia Azul, Náutica vs Centinela, Perse, Valkiria
3) Barboza, Draego, La Fashion, Persa vs Bestia Negra, Leo, Omar Brunetti, Vaquero Jr.
4) La Jarochita & Lluvia vs Stephanie Vaquer & Zeuxis
5) Templario & Último Guerrero vs Averno & Dragón Rojo Jr.
6) Místico & Volador Jr. vs Ángel de Oro & Niebla Roja

A lot with the Aniverasrio here! Top two matches preview the apuesta match, match 4 is a dry run of the tag title match.

The CMLL Japan Women’s championship has been vacant since Dalys left for AAA. CMLL Lady’s Ring will have a decision match between Dark Silueta and Japanese wrestler Kohaku on their 09/17 show. That means Dark Silueta is probably winning the belt and Kohaku is likely coming to Mexico in October.

On Informa, CMLL announced a legend’s cibernetico for their 09/22 Dia de Luchador show. CMLL likes to do legend’s themed matches for this annual event, and it helps to bring people in when about a dozen people will be on their way to England for the FanasticaMania UK shows. It’ll be a 12 person cibernetico with pre-determined sides; in other words, CMLL decided they can’t risk these guys taking battle royal eliminations.  Group A is Felino, Aguila Solitaria, Solar, Black Terry, Octagon and Satanico. Group B is Atlantis, Blue Panther, Panterita del Ring, El Pantera, Negro Navarro and Rocky Santana. This is a one night match; I think the Group A/B designation confused the WON today into thinking this was a multiweek event. A cibernetico generally sounds like a better way to get the legends in long enough to do a few trademark moves and get them out of the way before it gets too much. We’ll see how it works in practice, but the idea seems solid.

The field itself is interesting. (International) Pantera (II) has not wrestled in CMLL since 2006. He lost his mask to Misterioso in a cage match that year, then left a few months later. Pantera has generally wrestled under the same mask for the decade and a half since. Pantera’s claimed that CMLL didn’t pay him the full amount owed to him for the mask match, and so he felt he had the right to put it back on. He also made it clear you weren’t supposed to ask him about the mask, and so people stopped asking. Pantera’s mask/unmasked status is irrelevant for this show – the commission will allow everyone to wear their old mask if the so choose for the night – but it does change the story. Either CMLL’s done something to resolve the situation, or the real situation was just an older wrestler who didn’t want to look like an older wrestler coming up with a story to allow him to cover up his face.

Fuerza Guerrera is a notable omission. He wrestled as recently as Sunday in Merida, so it doesn’t appear to be an injury issue. Guerrera is scheduled to be on the Aniverasrio show, so maybe we’ll get more information this weekend.

NJPW announced a couple of CMLL matches for their 10/28 Las Vegas show

  • Atlantis, Mistico, Tanahashi and Atlantis Jr. vs Rocky Romero, Tiger Mask, Soberano Jr., and Adrian Quest
  • Lluvia & Johnnie Robbie vs Stephanie Vaquer & Zeuxis

Johnnie Robbie is a NJPW LA Dojo trainee. The atomicos is an Atlantis 40th anniversary match, though it might also be about Mistico and Romero. October is CMLL’s women’s wrestling month so it might be until November for the Mistico/Romero feud to pick back up in Mexico. Robbie being included here means she’s at least a possibility for the CMLL Gran Prix, which we should start to hear about after the Aniversario. Dave Meltzer had previous heard Giulia versus Stephanie Vaquer was planned for this show, so I wonder if this is a sign they’re holding it off for a later date or if Giulia got a more interesting opponent.

Mundo Deportivo has an interview with Titan.

AAA

Space will finish off the Orizaba taping:

  • Lady Shani, Reina Dorada, Sexy Star vs Flammer, La Hiedra, Viva Van
  • Myzteziz & Octagón Jr. vs Argenis & Puma King
  • Dalys & Negro Casas vs Chik Tormenta & Daga

Vary Morales posted Thursday about challenging QT Marshall for the AAA Latin American championship in some US indie promotion, then deleted the post. He probably just announced it too soon.

Octagon Jr. did some press to hype the Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera taping, talking about being in AAA four years and possibly challenging for the Latin American championship.

Negro Casas talked about the time he wrestled in a telenovela.

IWRG

IWRG (THU) 09/07/2023 Arena Naucalpan [Mas Lucha]
1) Ryu & Tornado b Adrenalina & Thunder Storm LIVE | La Puerquiza por los Campeonatos Estatales de Tríos (posted by mluchatv)
2) Sádika & Satania b Bengalee & Sagitarius LIVE | La Puerquiza por los Campeonatos Estatales de Tríos (posted by mluchatv)
Sadika & Santaia took out Sagitarius before hse made it to the ring, then beat Bengale. They’re doing by Las Diosas de la Destrucción.
3) Cerebro Negro Jr. b Dr. Cerebro Jr. LIVE | La Puerquiza por los Campeonatos Estatales de Tríos (posted by mluchatv)
Negro snuck in a foul on Doctor.
4) Brazo Celestial, Brazo Cibernetico, Brazo De Oro Jr., Pig Decapitador b Arkano, Hell Boy, León Dorado, Mr. Leo LIVE | La Puerquiza por los Campeonatos Estatales de Tríos (posted by mluchatv)
Brazo de Oro Jr. beat Hellboy, setting up a title match.
5) Gran Pandemónium, Hijo de Pandemónium, Pandemónium Jr. b Pig Destroyer, Pig Destructor, Pig Pool [EdM TriosLIVE | La Puerquiza por los Campeonatos Estatales de Tríos (posted by mluchatv)
First defense. Clean win.

I read Mas Lucha’s recap of the main event, which didn’t say anything about the finish, and thought it must’ve been so weird as to be indescribable. Nope, frog splash, two guys covering, no mask pulls or fouls. Unexpected. Crowd seemed to be about normal for a Thursday, which may mean that was the right decision – the pigs appear to have peaked.

IWRG (SUN) 09/10/2023 Arena Naucalpan
1) Águila Oriental & Blue Win vs Águila Roja & Histeriosis
2) Noisy Boy, Pequeño Arkano, Spider Boy vs Centurion, Gannicus, Rey Espartano
3) Hellboy, Shocko, Último Legendario vs Cerebro Negro, Cerebro Negro Jr., Kiki Roberts
4) Ivan Rokov vs Sádika
5) Diva Salvaje, Jessy Ventura, Mamba vs León Dorado, Mr. Leo, Tonalli
6) Hijo de Canis Lupus vs Toxin [RGR HEAVY]

The main event looks good until it becomes an IWRG match. Ivan Rokov vs Sadika is one for the sickos. Canada’s Florida’s Kiki Roberts is back for a least a little while; he’s listed on at least one card for the holiday weekend.

Other News

Michoacan luchador Genio (Jorge Gerardo Huape Mora) passed away on Wednesday. He was a second generation wrestler, and one of five brothers who were in lucha libre.

CMLL Tuesday results, Pelon Encapuchado

CMLL

CMLL (TUE) 09/05/2023 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Brillante Jr., Futuro, Histórico b Apocalipsis, Cholo, Disturbio FUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO - MARTES 05 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Sanely & Skadi b Hera & Olympia FUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO - MARTES 05 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) El Audaz, Pelon Encapuchado, Volcano b Kráneo, Okumura, Pólvora FUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO - MARTES 05 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Esfinge, Fugaz, Star Black b Cancerbero, Luciferno, Virus FUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO - MARTES 05 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Máscara Dorada TLDRAW Templario [lightningFUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO - MARTES 05 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Dorada was closer to winning as time ran out. Rematch of a match from April 21st, which also went to a time limit draw.
6) Atlantis, Octagón, Titán b Hechicero, Terrible, Último Guerrero FUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO - MARTES 05 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mascara Dorada/Templario was good, but not close to their previous lightning match. It’s very strange for Templario to be going to a draw about 11 days before he main events the Aniversario. CMLL done a lot of things logically this year but the last build to this Aniversario show hasn’t been especially strong in Arena Mexico. Templario himself hasn’t looked especially locked in the last few months.

The attendance was not great for this show, especially considering Atlantis and Octagon together are supposed to be a special draw.

Hershey Mexico sent out a press release hyping Pelon Encapuchado. They specify you can see him Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays in Arena Mexico during September and October, which sounds like “Fuego” will be returning in November.

CMLL (TUE) 09/05/2023 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, Mas Lucha]
1) Black Boy, Thunder Boy, Yaky Boy b Minotauro, Relámpago Azul, Rumbero Campeonato de Tercias de Occidente!! (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
2) Destello, Destructor, Johnny Dinamo b Eclipse Jr., Halcón Suriano Jr., Temerario Campeonato de Tercias de Occidente!! (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
3) Aradia, Atenea, Frida, Katara, Magia Azul, Xenna b Centinela, Estrella Maldita, La Pantera, Luna, Perse, Yemaya Campeonato de Tercias de Occidente!! (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
Billed as an exhibition match, whatever that means. Perse is ex-AAA Persephone, ex-Black Widow. A female referee also debuted in the match.
4) Dulce Kitty, Náutica, Nexy, Sexy Sol b Alondra, Gema Andrade, La Misteriosa, Lady Shadow Campeonato de Tercias de Occidente!! (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
GDL vs Laguna
5) Furia Roja, Guerrero de la Muerte, Ráfaga b Arlequín, Bestia Negra, Cris Skin Campeonato de Tercias de Occidente!! (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
6) Adrenalina, Explosivo, Fantástico © b Gemelo Diablo I, Gemelo Diablo II, Sagrado [OCCIDENTE TRIOSCampeonato de Tercias de Occidente!! (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
2nd defense
7) Euforia, Hijo del Soberano, Soberano Jr. b Hijo de Stuka Jr., Insólito, Stuka Jr. Campeonato de Tercias de Occidente!! (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )

Perse making her debut in the greater CMLL universe seemed likely since Villano III Jr. made the move. CMLL debuting a female referee in Arena Mexico in October would fit with the theme. I’m moving my odds of an all-woman’s Arena Mexico in October show to 70/30.

Pierrothito’s votes went ahead of Minos in the battle to get a Pequeno Estrellas title match with Mercurio. That category is getting far more votes than any other category. It’s still many days left, but it seems likely the minis will main event the Noche de Campeon show.

Nmas has an interview with Mistico about his career.

Brillante Jr. was working on a degree in civil engineering,  but it’s currently on hold as gets used to living in Mexico City and wrestling in CMLL.

I held up posting to see if there would be a CMLL Informa appearance list, but no such luck yet. Their patterns suggest today should have some information on the Dia de Luchador show on 09/22, maybe including guests.

AAA

I caught up on Saturday’s AAA TV. It’s not a great watch, because it appears to take place in a black, soundless void, but the matches themselves are fine. All three matches were just A Lot Of Stuff, and the opener was pulled off the most impressive stuff. It had a specific focus (showcase new Drago and Centella) the other also lacked.

Dinamico got promo time in a vignette and before his match to put over Mexicali group. He demanded Sexy Star, also from Mexicali, join the faction. It’s an actual direction for both the group and Sexy Star, though it’d be odd if it actually went anywhere. Pagano worked the main event as a rudo with La Rebelion, which is odd with his current direction. But, it’s very obviously a filler taping and none of this matters enough to think about.

AAA seems to have skipped uploading Verano de Escandalo on their YouTube channel, jumping from one TripleMania to another to catch up. It feels like it indicates how irrelevant that show (and all non-TripleMania shows) are, but it’s really more just trying to get the channel more current.

Pagano is working with the Ciudad Juarez government to create a local lucha libre museum. This is part of their second annual lucha libre marathon show, which appears to have thirty-one matches announced this year.

IWRG

IWRG (THU) 09/07/2023 Arena Naucalpan
1) Ryu & Tornado vs Adrenalina & Thunder Storm
2) Bengalee & Sagitarius vs Sádika & Satania
3) Dr. Cerebro Jr. vs Cerebro Negro Jr.
4) Hell Boy, León Dorado, Mr. Leo, Shocko vs Brazo Celestial, Brazo Cibernetico, Brazo De Oro Jr., Pig Decapitador
5) Gran Pandemónium, Hijo de Pandemónium, Pandemónium Jr. vs Pig Destroyer, Pig Destructor, Pig Pool [EdM Trios]
first defense

It seems weird they’d do the big Pandemia/Pigs match on a Thursday but then that probably means this isn’t the big match.

Hip Hop Man says he’ll host a royal rumble in Arena Naucalpan on 09/21, in celebration fo wrestling in Mexico for ten years.

Other News

Mas Lucha will air Arena GDL’s anniversary show as a subscription show this Saturday. Rayman, Rocky Casas and Makabre will meet in a three-way match. Casas seems the most likely to lose.

Ayako Hamada has been running a tournament where the winning wrestler will get to wrestle in Japan. The final is Saturday. Pily La Ametralladora, Aqua, Datura and Dayami are the final four, out of eighteen who competed. A Yahoo article specifics the winner will go to Meriken Pro Wrestling. I’m unfamiliar with that promotion but it looks like they run small weekly shows in Kobe and stream them on YouTube. The Hamada show also has a Faby/Ayako match advertised, which sounds like great fun if it happens as scheduled.

Box y Lucha posted their weekly 1950s Box y Lucha drop. This one has both 1956 and 1957 issues, filling in some gaps from previous releases.

Segunda Caida writes about more Panama lucha libre, but really more about Kendo.

Mistico dethrones Soberano, Esfinge advances in Copa Independencia, Pelon Encapuchado

CMLL

CMLL (FRI) 09/01/2023 Arena México [CMLL, Kaiser SportsThe Gladiatores]
1) Apocalipsis, Cholo, Disturbio b Astral, Leono, Robin CMLL - DISTURBIO - APOCALIPSIS - CHOLO VS LEONO - ROBIN - ASTRAL / ARENA MÉXICO/01-09-23 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
9:40
2) Capitán Suicida, Halcón Suriano Jr., Pelon Enacpuchado b Crixus, Raider, Vegas CMLL-VEGAS-CRIXUS-RAIDER VS HALCÓN SURIANO JR.-CAPITÁN SUICIDA-PELÓN ENCAPUCHADO/A. MÉXICO /01-09-23 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:09. Pelon Enacpuchado is Fuego as a sponsored character for Pelon Pelo Rico.
3) Esfinge b Blue Panther Jr.Magia BlancaFugazMagnusPólvoraEl AudazDifuntoFuturoEspanto Jr.Rey CometaFuria Roja [Copa Independencia, semifinalCMLL - 1a. FASE COPA INDEPENDENCIA / ARENA MÉXICO / 01-09-23 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
About 32:00. Polvora replaced Villano III Jr. on Sunday
4) Máscara Dorada & Templario b Dragón Rojo Jr. & Titán [Relevos IncreíblesCMLL - DRAGÓN ROJO JR. - TITÁN VS TEMPLARIO - MÁSCARA DORADA / ARENA MÉXICO / 01-09-23 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:40. Dorada & Templario had matching outfits as if a regular team.
5) Místico b Soberano Jr. CMLL - MANO A MANO / SOBERANO JR. VS MÍSTICO / ARENA MÉXICO / 01-09-23 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
16:44. Mistico won clean on a third La Mistica attempt.

The stream had frame rate issues during the Copa Independencia, then the sound was two seconds off from the video for the rest of the night. I’m not sure if it’s me being old, or latent trauma from trying to get the AAA streams to work, but I just have a very hard time staying interested in a show when the audio and video go out of sync. If you can get past that – or just wait until it’s fixed on YouTube – the top three matches all were worth watching. I’d rank Mistico/Soberano as below the Titan match but above the Takahashi match, but also why do we have to always rank things, it serves little purpose. Dorada & Templario were a cool looking team but I can’t tell what CMLL is doing with Templario past the Aniversario show, if there’s even a plan past that. (Like the Sugehit/Zeuxis mask match and others, this seems much more about the loser losing than the winner winning.)

I didn’t write down the elimination order because those were happening when the feed was breaking, but the final two of Copa Independencia were Esfinge and Rey Cometa. I know in my head Esfinge was winning because he hadn’t used Nudo Egipica to that point, and my heart hoped for a miracle which didn’t arrive. Esfinge feels like the successor to La Mascara, a guy who gets is fine at best but gets more attention than a fine at best guy should get. La Mascara at least had the obvious family connections, while Esfinge’s family (former Guadalajara booker Magnum) was exiled from the promotion after some accusations. There is some real Esfinge popularity – he’s winning his Night of Champions poll at last check – but I don’t get why he’s picked over so many others.

“Pelon Encapuchado” (no accent in Pelon) was the biggest talk after the match, with lots of Takes about CMLL having a sponsored character being out of character for a serious promotion. Snack company Pelon Pelo Rico was the sponsor this time, but CMLL’s done similar things in the past. The current Diamante Azul Diamante Azul was ‘Metro’ for years to promote that newspaper. Pelon Encapuchado returns on Tuesday.

CMLL (SAT) 09/02/2023 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Acero & Aéreo b Full Metal & Pequeño Polvora
2) Crixus, Futuro, Halcón Suriano Jr. b Cachorro, Diamond, Inquisidor
Crixus replaced Grako
3) La Catalina, Stephanie Vaquer, Zeuxis b La Jarochita, La Magnifica, Skadi
4) Felino & Felino Jr. b Blue Panther Jr. & Dark Panther
5) Cavernario, Euforia, Stuka Jr. b Star Jr., Titán, Valiente
6) Ángel de Oro, Dragón Rojo Jr., Niebla Roja b Atlantis Jr., Máscara Dorada, Volador Jr.

Nothing much to say about this one.

CMLL (SUN) 09/03/2023 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Minos b Angelito [lightning]
2) Brillante Jr. & Max Star b Halcón Suriano Jr. & Neón
3) Akuma, Dark Magic, Misterioso Jr. b Guerrero Maya Jr., Pegasso, Stigma
4) Dulce Gardenia, Espíritu Negro, Hombre Bala Jr. b Cancerbero, Luciferno, Virus
5) Blue Panther, Panterita del Ring, Volcano DQ Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Rey Bucanero
Rey Bucanero was eliminated but came back in to attack Blue Panther anyway.
6) Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Volador Jr. b Bárbaro Cavernario, Dragón Rojo Jr., Terrible

The Rey Bucanero/Blue Panther bit is weird enough to be an angle but not definitely one. CMLL recap noted it was unusual to see past Aniversario opponents Gran Guerrero and Niebla Roja back on the same team.

CMLL (MON) 09/04/2023 Arena Puebla [Porra Fresa]
1) Dreyko, Fénix SO, Rey Apocalipsis b Astro, Black Tiger, Millenium
2) Halcón Suriano Jr., Meyer, Neón DQ Apocalipsis, Cholo, Disturbio
Disturbio fouled Meyer
3) Akuma, Dark Magic, Espanto Jr. b Amnesia, Espíritu Negro, Rey Cometa Facebook video (posted by )
Amnesia replaced Dulce Gardenia.
4) Magnus & Rugido © b Fugaz & Stigma [MEX TAGFacebook video (posted by )
second defense
5) Averno, Dragón Rojo Jr., Volador Jr. DQ Ángel de Oro, Templario, Último Guerrero [Relevos Increíbles]
Dragon Rojo unmasked Templario

The Aniversario guys aren’t matching up Tuesday or Friday; maybe they’ll have one more swing it at next weekend? Dulce not showing up is another sign whomever wins the Night of Champions voting is going to win the belts.

CMLL (TUE) 09/05/2023 Arena México
1) Brillante Jr., Futuro, Histórico vs Apocalipsis, Cholo, Disturbio
2) Sanely & Skadi vs Hera & Olympia
3) El Audaz, Pelon Enacpuchado, Volcano vs Kráneo, Okumura, Pólvora
4) Esfinge, Fugaz, Star Black vs Cancerbero, Luciferno, Virus
5) Máscara Dorada vs Templario [lightning]
6) Atlantis, Octagón, Titán vs Hechicero, Terrible, Último Guerrero

Mascara Dorada and Tempalrio were good partners and probably good opponents on Tuesday. Emergency Torneo de Escualo Historico gets a third booking!

CMLL (FRI) 09/08/2023 Arena México
1) Kaligua & Pequeño Magía vs Mercurio & Pierrothito
2) Lluvia & Stephanie Vaquer vs La Jarochita & Zeuxis
3) Dulce Gardenia vs Star BlackStigmaDark PantherHombre Bala Jr.Max StarZandokan Jr.AkumaRugidoHijo del Villano IIIEl CoyoteCrixus [Copa Independencia, semifinal]
4) Volador Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario
5) Atlantis Jr., Máscara Dorada, Místico vs Guerrero Maya Jr., Templario, Titán [Relevos Increíbles]

No real Aniversario preview match on the final Friday is highly irregular. This is a good lineup and Aniversario looks like it’s going to sell out anyway, but it’s a pattern break.

The Copa Independencia winner from this block is probably a rudo. CMLL’s listed them in depth chart order, so you can read that as Zandokan as the favorite.

The Aniversario show is up to purchase on Boletia. It’s 13USD before fees.

The two competitive Night of Champions categories are the CMLL Pequeno Estrellas championship and the CMLL Light Heavyweight champioship. Minos currently leads Pierrothito to face Mercurio, though the lead there has changed multiple times during the weekend. Averno’s supporters are cutting into Esfinge’s lead for the Light Heavyweight Championship, and would get Averno in to first place in a couple of days if it stays it is. (It almost never does.) That minis battle is getting the most votes of any category, but right behind it is actually the CMLL Welterweight Championship. Fugaz gets a lot of votes, but Mascara Dorada is getting even more a day. Fugaz isn’t catching up, but it’s giving it a chance to be the main event.

Heraldo Deportes interviewed Dragon Rojo Jr., who mentioned he was so skinny when he started that others made fun of him. The article notes that six Torreon/Gomez Palacios luchadors have lost their mask on the Aniversario in the last fifteen years (Black Warrior, Blue Panther, Ultimo Guerrero, La Sombra, Niebla Roja, and Stuka Jr.) They throw in Volador Jr. but I think Monclova counts as a different region. Anyway, Dragon Rojo wants not to disappoint his hometown fans.

Angelito credits Negro Casas for getting him to CMLL. He was a kid accompanying his luchador dad to the ring and doing a couple spots for fun on a show with CMLL wrestlers, and Casas asked if he actually was trained. Angelito admitted no, and Casas demanded he demonstrate his skills if he’s going in the ring. Angelito tried some holds with Casas, who was impressed Angelito knew to work the left side. (Angelito’s uncle and father had taught him that much.) Casas introduced Angelito to Ultimo Guerrero and Atlantis, and encouraged him to train and come to CMLL.

AAA

I’m behind on watching everything; haven’t seen AAA TV (it’s on the Drive),, haven’t seen the big DTU tag match, and haven’t seen much. Maybe tonight.

AAA posted a normal hype bit for their Mexico City taping, talking about the Octagon Jr. versus Mecha Wolf versus Bestia 666 versus Drago match #1 contenders match for the Latin American championship. They hyped it as “QT Marshall is waiting to make his first defense!” AAA had previously hyped QT’s defense versus Gravity on Rampage as the first defense. What’s happening here is that AAA normally only counts defenses that air on TV, so the CDMX defense would be QT’s . I don’t know that’s a sensible policy in 2024, but fine, whatever. The problem is QT Marshall’s deal is he’s going to be defending the title everywhere, be in AEW or Progress or whatever random group Marshall is going to wrestle with in Montreal. It ultimately is just another thing to laugh about with AAA.

Las Shotas did work The Crash on Friday so I presume they’re out of AAA but I don’t really know. The only place these things are discussed are on Konnan’s podcast and I haven’t listened to that in three weeks. Maybe I’ll catch up this week.

Villano IV told La Tijera says he hopes to recover from a recent operation and still have the retirement match he and Pentagon talked about after last year’s mask match. The story going around after that operation was Villano IV was totally done and wouldn’t be returning, so I’m choosing to take this as a sign that the situation wasn’t as bad as originally thought (though he should probably still not wrestle.)

Psycho Clown is not on the next two TV AAA TV tapings. It turns out there’s a reason for skipping at least one of them. Psycho Clown showed up on NOAH’s event on Sunday in Osaka, attacking El Hijo del Dr. Wagner. Wagner had been receiving mystery messages for a while, and they’re playing off the Dr. Wagner Jr./Psycho Clown mask match. Psycho will challenge Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. for the GHC National Championship on September 24th in Nagoya and will be working the tour leading up to it.

I’m intrigued how Psycho is going to do in another environment; I don’t expect NOAH to do the same interference-heavy matches we see in AA, but I’m less certain if it’ll still be a weapons heavy match or something else. It might get to subscribe. Obviously, the idea is to get some lucha libre fans interested in checking that out; another big title match is Los Golpeadores (Dragon Bane and Alpha Wolf) wrestling Ninja Mack & Alejandro for the junior tag titles. (They were scheduled to challenge Chris Ridgeway and Daga, but Ridgeway is out with an injury.) Wrestle Universe, NOAH’s streaming site, has done some crossover with Mas Lucha in the past and this might be a good time to use a couple of their announcers to make it more palatable for Spanish language viewers.

I do not believe there is currently an AAA/NOAH agreement and instead guys like Daga and Psycho Clown are working directly and individually with NOAH (and booker NOSAWA.) Psycho Clown disappearing from Mexico for a month does say something about the relative disparity between the two companies. AAA’s big shows outdraw NOAH’s big shows (outside Muto retirement events), but the only way Psycho Clown is going to Japan for a month is if he’s getting paid well. He’s never seemed like the guy who grew up on Japanese wrestling and really wanted to be there, like Daga – it’s a money move.

Dorian Roldan appeared on the EntreFirmas podcast, which mostly focus on how copyrights and intellectual rights work in business (and lucha libre in this case.) There are not many wrestling scoops in there; there is a show ending discussion about how AI could change production and music generation for wrestling someday if that’s more what you’re looking for.  Roldan’s asked about enforcing AAA’s trademarks and says it depends on the promoter and the event, and it’s even tricky if they want to do it. It’s hard to track down an ‘underground’ promoter, and the cost of suing is high compared to the reward. There’s a discussion about the differences in the US. Roldan puts over the power of a Cease and Desist as super strong, like a person who’s been on both sides of those.

IWRG

IWRG (SUN) 09/03/2023 Arena Naucalpan [IWRG, Mas Lucha]
1) Hatana & Sagitarius b Amazonika & Satania IWRG | Amazonika y Satania vs Hatana y Sagitarius | Lucha completa (posted by mluchatv)
2) Arkano, Dr. Cerebro Jr., Último Legendario b Águila Roja, Cerebro Negro Jr., Mr. Mike IWRG | Último Legendario, Dr. Cerebro Jr. y Arkano vs Mr. Mike, Águila Roja y Cerebro Negro Jr. (posted by mluchatv)
3) Centvrión, Gannicus, Rey Espartano b Fly Star, Mosca, Rey Astaroth IWRG | Gannicus, Rey Espartano y Centurión vs Rey Astaroth, Mosca y FlyStar | Lucha completa (posted by mluchatv)
4) Gran Pandemónium, Hijo de Pandemónium, Pandemónium Jr. b Cerebro Negro, Hip Hop Man, Ivan Rokov [EdM Trios, final (posted by mluchatv)
Hip Hop Man was busted open and left the match. Pandemia won the vacant titles, then were attacked by the Pigs.
5) Pig Decapitador, Pig Destroyer, Pig Destructor, Pig Pool b Hell Boy, León Dorado, Mr. Leo, Shocko IWRG | La Puerquiza Extrema vs Hellboy, Shocko y Los Lion Brothers | Lucha completa (posted by mluchatv)
6) Dr. Cerebro & Dr. Wagner Jr. b Cibernético & Toxin IWRG | Dr. Wagner Jr. y Dr. Cerebro vs Cibernético y Toxin | Lucha completa (posted by mluchatv)
Wagner won via foul

Hip Hop Man implied La Pandemia wasn’t professional with him in the match. I believe the incident starts 17m35s into this video. Pandemia were going for a triple powerbomb spot, Hip Hop Man doesn’t go up right, and then they’re definitely kicking him in the head as Cerebro Negro tries to move it on. There may have been something that preceded it because it escalated quickly. Another day in IWRG.

ManiaCop 360 has quit IWRG. Again, this is someone who IWRG had stopped booking taking the stance they’ve left IWRG. (This seems more a IWRG HR problem of not telling people when they’ve been let go.) Maniacop560 hasn’t wrestled in Naucalpan since April. I believe ManiaCop 360 is also Garra Mortal Jr., though IWRG did something with both guys appearing at once to throw people off.

IWRG will have a technical wrestling “no ropes” tournament on 09/14. I can’t wait to see what that actually turns into.

Other News

El Mago announced he’ll be wrestling Ultimo Dragon on the 10/28 Pro Wrestling Revolucion show. In a Instagram post, Mago mentions his goal when he started wrestling was to wrestle Ultimo Dragon, Shawn Michaels, and Rey Misterio Jr., so he’s getting one of them. (The former Draztick Boy didn’t cross paths with Ultimo Dragon in his Japanese trips.) Mago hasn’t wrestled in Mexico this year. He mentions he’s left home (Hidalgo) to work elsewhere for the last seven months, trying to get better and find opportunities he wasn’t getting before. It’s off my radar, but Cagematch has him in wrestling in California over the last few months.

Mas Lucha posted highlights from the recent Big Lucha show. A Viajero promo confirms he and Brujo de Iztapalpa will have their mask match in December. Big Lucha posts one match from this show on their channel daily. I know Japan’s Stardom has done that, but I’m unsure if anyone else does. I presume it’s about trying to make the content last as long as possible. They did post a video where Black Generation were responsible for the video crew for posting the show late.

Rey Fenix was back wrestling on Sunday.

Milenio has a long article on visiting Zona 23.

A profile on Titan’s del Ring’s La Masa.

Segunda Caida reviews more Monterrey lucha libre.

Box y Lucha 3667 has a Damian 666 and Esfinge on the cover.

 

Soberano/Mistico tonight, Noche de Campeones early leaders, AAA to SLP

CMLL

Today’s show:

CMLL (FRI) 09/01/2023 Arena México
1) Astral, Leono, Robin vs Apocalipsis, Cholo, Disturbio
2) Capitán Suicida, Fuego, Halcón Suriano Jr. vs Crixus, Raider, Vegas
3) Blue Panther Jr. vs Magia BlancaFugazMagnusEsfingePólvoraEl AudazDifuntoFuturoEspanto Jr.Rey CometaFuria Roja [Copa Independencia, semifinal]
Polvora replaced Villano III Jr. on Sunday
4) Máscara Dorada & Templario vs Dragón Rojo Jr. & Titán [Relevos Increíbles]
5) Místico vs Soberano Jr.

Mistico versus a rudo Soberano should be good and might be great. Soberano has worked a lot as a rudo in Guadalajara this year and knows how to play the character well, the Arena Mexico crowd is very into Mistico, and the test is to see if they can get do enough unexpected to get people to believe Soberano actually has a chance.

The semi-main is an anniversary preview with some good wingmen. I don’t have any feel for who’s coming out of the Copa Independencia. CMLL replaced Fuego with “Pelon Encapucchado” (masked bald person) on Thursday. Not sure if there’s some issue with the Fuego name or if there’s a new character or if it’s even a fill-in.

It’s on PPV as always.

CMLL does appear to have gone on another trademark spree in June and July, filing for Atlantis Jr., Templario, Vaquero Jr., and “Titan Inmortal”, the last of which are among those also still filed under Sofia Alonso’s names. The introduction of Atlantis Jr. is listed as May 12th, 2017, which seems well before his actual debut. There are also requests for FantasticaMania (one word), Copa Atlantis and “3rd Caida.” The people behind Mas Lucha were previously te people behind TV show Tercera Caida.  I assume the CMLL trademark is unrelated – it’s also an Alonso trademark so they’ve probably wanted to recapture for a while.

CMLL announced Block B of Copa Independencia would have Dark Panther, Stigma, Dulce Gardenia, Hombre Bala Jr., Zandokan Jr., Akuma, Coyote, Crixus, Hijo del Villano III, Star Black, Max Star, and Rugido. CMLL likely will have a tecnico/rudo final, so we’ll know a lot more about who has a chance next week after this week.

There’s no explanation of why Villano III Jr. was pulled from tonight’s block. He’s working normally, doing an appearance later. Villano III Jr. did storm off last week’s Informa’s segment announcing this field last week. It may not have been a bit CMLL, and Julio Cesar Rivera knew about ahead of time and perhaps CMLL took him out of the tournament as a punishment. I don’t know, not implying I know, just trying to make sense of the little info we have.

CMLL (SUN) 09/03/2023 Arena México
1) Angelito vs Minos [lightning]
2) Halcón Suriano Jr. & Neón vs Brillante Jr. & Max Star
3) Guerrero Maya Jr., Pegasso, Stigma vs Akuma, Dark Magic, Misterioso Jr.
4) Dulce Gardenia, Espíritu Negro, Hombre Bala Jr. vs Cancerbero, Luciferno, Virus
5) Blue Panther, Panterita del Ring, Volcano vs Gran Guerrero, Niebla Roja, Rey Bucanero
6) Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Volador Jr. vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Dragón Rojo Jr., Terrible

A show, marking time.

CMLL (MON) 09/04/2023 Arena Puebla
1) Astro, Black Tiger, Millenium vs Dreyko, Fénix SO, Rey Apocalipsis
2) Halcón Suriano Jr., Meyer, Neón vs Apocalipsis, Cholo, Disturbio
3) Dulce Gardenia, Espíritu Negro, Rey Cometa vs Akuma, Dark Magic, Espanto Jr.
4) Magnus & Rugido © vs Fugaz & Stigma [MEX TAG]
second defense
5) Averno, Dragón Rojo Jr., Volador Jr. vs Ángel de Oro, Templario, Último Guerrero [Relevos Increíbles]

The main event is the Aniversario preview trios. A title change seems unlikely but not impossible.

CMLL (TUE) 09/05/2023 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Aradia, Frida, La Pantera, Luna, Magia Azul vs Atenea, Estrella Maldita, Tabata, Xenna, Yemaya
exhibition match
2) Black Boy, Thunder Boy, Yaky Boy vs Minotauro, Relámpago Azul, Rumbero
3) Metal Blanco & Palacio Negro vs Destello & Destructor
debut of new people under old names
4) Furia Roja, Guerrero de la Muerte, Ráfaga vs Arlequín, Bestia Negra, Cris Skin
5) Dulce Kitty, Náutica, Nexy, Sexy Sol vs Alondra, Gema Andrade, La Misteriosa, Lady Shadow
GDL vs Laguna
6) Adrenalina, Explosivo, Fantástico © vs Gemelo Diablo I, Gemelo Diablo II, Sagrado [OCCIDENTE TRIOS]
2nd defense
7) Euforia, Hijo del Soberano, Soberano Jr. vs Hijo de Stuka Jr., Insólito, Stuka Jr.

It’s strange to see an all-Torreon main event on a Guadalajara show. Metal Blanco and Palacio Negro were late 2000s gimmicks that became Triton and Titan in 2011. I believe it hurts new wrestlers to take over gimmicks like this, all of Mexican wrestling believes otherwise. The opener is all “new talents”, though some of those names have been in women’s matches before (and Aradia is a former Arena Coliseo Guadalajara edecan.)

It’s only two days into the Noche de Campeones voting, but the pattern in past years is people with big early leads do not get caught. That means Mascara Dorada/Titan and Zandokan & Los Villanos versus Atrapsuenos seem locks. None of the other categories are close, and the only category that got close was Minos taking a chunk of Pierrothito’s lead in the minis title match. Virus and Esfinge have solid leads in their matches. Stephanie Vaquer & La Catalina seem the strong favorites for the vacant women’s title.

It is interesting that CMLL put Vaquer & Zeuxis in the competition for the women’s title match but not Jarochita or Lluvia. It seems like a pretty strong hint on which team is winning the new tag titles on the Aniversario show.

NJPW fan podcast Keepin’ It Strong Style had Rocky Romero on as a guest on their 300th episode. They apparently have him on for every “00” episode, and the interview for this one was taped way back in mid-July to make it work. Romero talks about his CMLL run from about minute 9 to 22 on the podcast; he’s as proud of it in this interview as he is in others, and feels happy he’s also helping shine a light on a promotion (CMLL) that doesn’t get as much attention internationally. There are some behind-the-scenes notes. Romero’s story is that he thought he was never ever coming back to CMLL after the Grey Shadow incident and jumping to AAA feeling that burned that bridge forever. He was finally brought back for the 2022 Gran Prix, though under the idea it was going to be one appearance and no more. He wanted more, so when the interviewers before the Gran Prix kept asking him questions about Volador, Romero decided to go “Connor McGregor” crazy on Volador to create a feud. It go over and it’s progressed from there, though even Romero seems to have no idea how long it’ll last. He says he doesn’t know if he’s winning or losing any CMLL match until right before he goes out, so he had no idea he was beating Volador for the title the first time – Romero had assumed that was the end of the program. He was equally surprised to find out he was keeping the title in the most recent match, though he’s happy to do so and proud to be main eventing shows that are doing very well.

The Denver Bronco’s mascot Miles and five other team’s mascots will appear at the 09/08 Arena Mexico show for a lucha olimpica demonstration. I have no idea what that’ll be.

Arkalis said he struggled with depression while recovering from his recent leg issue. He mentioned CMLL sent him to a psychologist, and he recovered little by little.

La Metalica is putting her mask against long time Monterrey luchadora Tsunami’s hair on a show on the 9th; she told El Universal it was the most difficult match of her career.

MedioTiempo has an interview with Star Black, who is called Black Star in the headline. Star Black always sounds strange in English. It looks like someone translating the words from Spanish but not realizing the adjective comes in front of the noun in English.

Satanico was critical of the Undertaker for refusing to sign autographs for fans at a Japanese airport some long time ago.

AAA

AAA announced another taping already:

AAA TV (WED) 10/18/2023 Palenque de la Fenapo, San Luis Potosí, San Luis Potosí
1) Brazo de Oro, Centella, Drago vs Diva Salvaje, Dulce Kanela, Jessy Ventura
2) Lady Shani, Niño Hamburguesa, Sexy Star vs Chik Tormenta, Látigo, Toxin
3) Octagón Jr. & Willie Mack vs Forastero & Sansón
4) Negro Casas & Zorro vs Abismo Negro & Psicosis
5) Dralistico vs Laredo KidTaurus [#1 Contenders, AAA MEGA]
6) Pagano & Psycho Clown vs Sam Adonis & Texano Jr.

I believe AAA stated TripleMania was the end of the Psycho Clown/Sam Adonis feud. I guess not yet. I expect AAA will set up Dralistico versus Hijo del Vikingo the way everything has gone, but maybe they’re actually doing the Dralitico/Adonis program, and Laredo Kid or Taurus will get the shot. NGD does appear to be sticking around. Las Shotas are listed there – an out-of-date lineup? Not showing up at The Crash today?

the TV schedule for the rest of the year, at the moment

  • 09/02 & 09/09 – Orizaba (airing on a two-month delay)
  • 09/16 & 09/23 – the Showcenter card
  • 10/01 (live) & 10/08 – Heroes Inmortales
  • 10/14 & 10/21 – Mexico City
  • 10/28 & 11/04 – SLP
  • 11/11 – a skip week? leftovers?
  • 11/19 & 11/25 – Guerra de Tianes from Juarez
  • 12/02 & 12/09 – the 11/26 Showcenter show?

QT Marshall will defend the Latin American championship against Bobby Sharp in Montreal on 09/17. This is a great deal for QT to get himself more bookings. Unclear how it helps AAA.

Hijo del Vikingo wrestles Nick Gage tonight in GCW.

IWRG

IWRG (THU) 08/31/2023 Arena Naucalpan [IWRG, Mas Lucha]
1) Águila Roja & Rey Aztaroth (Estado de México) b Blue Win & Tornado
2) Arkano & Último Legendario b Mr. Mike & Ovett Jr.
3) Bengalee, Hatana, Sagitarius DQ Lolita, Sádika, Satania
Sadika splashed the referee for a DQ.
4) Hellboy & Shocko DRAW León Dorado & Mr. Leo and Noisy Boy & Spider Fly
MexiBoys were eliminated, then Shocko & Leon Dorado (so it was suddenly elimination) and then Hell Boy and Mr. Leo went to a draw.
5) Ivan Rokov b Hijo de Canis LupusHijo del Pirata Morgan
Originally billed as a title match, which was quietly dropped. Rokov won via foul on Pirata. Crowd wanted one more fall (really?) but the commission said no. Lupus was angry with Pirata for losing so easily (?) and challenged him to a super libre match.

I don’t know anything about this show beyond the results up there. It’s been a long couple of weeks.

IWRG (SUN) 09/03/2023 Arena Naucalpan
1) Hatana & Sagitarius vs Amazonika & Satania
2) Centvrión, Gannicus, Rey Espartano vs Leo, Mosca, Rey Astaroth
3) Arkano, Dr. Cerebro Jr., Último Legendario vs Águila Roja, Cerebro Negro Jr., Mr. Mike
4) Gran Pandemónium, Hijo de Pandemónium, Pandemónium Jr. vs Cerebro Negro, Hip Hop Man, Ivan Rokov [EdM Trios, final]
5) Pig Decapitador, Pig Destroyer, Pig Destructor, Pig Pool vs Hell Boy, León Dorado, Mr. Leo, Shocko
6) Dr. Cerebro & Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Cibernético & Toxin

Wagner and Cibernetico should mean a large crowd for this show. It’d be strange to go through the process of a trios tournament just for La Pandemia to end up back with the belts, but it would also be strange to go through the process of a trios tournament to give it to a slightly different Hip Hop Man team. It’s just IWRG, a strange place.

Other News

Big Lucha announced they’d start to put up their show on Thursday. And then, they just didn’t do it. It showed up Friday afternoon. This is the second show in a row Big Lucha’s done this, and no one seems much upset about it.

Dragon Bane and Alpha Wolf say they’re headed to NOAH for three months.

2018 CMLL visitor Kaho Kobayashi got attention back in Mexico while wrestling in Japan for an entrance using a Valentín Elizalde song. Actually, Kobayashi says the person wrestling is her best friend La Pidita.

A profile of luchador/taxi derived Lirio de Plata.

Noche de Campeones matches, FantasticaMania talent list, IWRG

CMLL

CMLL (MON) 08/28/2023 Arena Puebla [Porra Fresa]
1) Blue Shark & Meyer b Hijo del Perverso & Rencor
2) Reyna Isis b Zeuxis Facebook video (posted by )
3) El Coyote & Okumura b Pegasso & Rey Samuray
4) Fugaz & Stigma b Magnus & Rugido Facebook video (posted by )
Tecnicos won, setting up a MEX TAG match next week
5) Hechicero DQ Euforia Facebook video (posted by )
Euforia DQed for excessive rudoismo (wouldn’t let go of the hold)
6) Ángel de Oro, Templario, Último Guerrero DQ Averno, Dragón Rojo Jr., Volador Jr. Facebook video (posted by )
Dragon Rojo unmasked Templario, Volador fouled Angel de Oro

I had to wait until Informa to figure out who won the main event: Porra Fresa oddly didn’t list and neither media outlet mentioned it. The brief highlights on Informa served a purpose.

Blue Shark is an unmasked wrestler, and apparently earned his wrestler’s license last year.

CMLL (TUE) 08/29/2023 Arena México [CMLL, Kaiser SportsThe Gladiatores]
1) Micro Gemelo Diablo I & Micro Gemelo Diablo II b Mije & Periquito Sacaryas FUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO - MARTES 29 DE AGOSTO DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Eléctrico, Oro Jr., Valiente Jr. b Dr. Karonte I, Dr. Karonte II, Enfermero Jr. FUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO - MARTES 29 DE AGOSTO DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) El Coyote, Okumura, Pólvora b Arkalis, Pegasso, Volcano FUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO - MARTES 29 DE AGOSTO DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
4) Magia Blanca, Magnus, Rugido b Hijo del Villano III, Villano III Jr., Zandokan Jr. FUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO - MARTES 29 DE AGOSTO DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Atlantis DQ Último Guerrero [lightningFUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO - MARTES 29 DE AGOSTO DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Ultimo Guerrero pulled off Atlantis’ mask for the DQ in 9:01.
6) Euforia, Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. b Místico, Templario, Titán [Relevos IncreíblesFUNCIÓN COMPLETA DESDE LA ARENA MÉXICO - MARTES 29 DE AGOSTO DE 2O23 SOLO MIEMBROS (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Soberano beat Mistico cleanly after a setup by Euforia, and Mistico pointed out Soberano wouldn’t have his father’s help on Friday.

The main event was a lot of fun. Atlantis looked better in the semimain until he tried to do the Atlantida for the finish, and they had to improvise another finish.

Villano III Jr. did wrestle here, and is doing appearances for CMLL this weekend. No idea why, but he did a dramatic bit where he walked out of Informa last week and that may have not been cleared in advance.

CMLL (TUE) 08/29/2023 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, Mas Lucha]
1) Gallo Jr. & Rafaga Jr. b Calavera Jr. I & Calavera Jr. II  (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
2) Fantasy, Shockercito, Último Dragóncito b Mercurio, Pequeño Violencia, Pierrothito  (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
3) Esfinge, Fugaz, Star Black DQ Leo, Omar Brunetti, Vaquero Jr.  (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
Vaquero unmasked Star Black
4) Gemelo Diablo I, Gemelo Diablo II, Sagrado b Adrenalina, Explosivo, Fantástico  (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
sets up an OCCIDENTE TRIOS match
5) Reyna Isis © b Valkiria [MEX WOMEN (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )
first defense
6) Arlequín, Atlantis Jr., Ráfaga b Bárbaro Cavernario, Demonio Maya, Principe Daniel Disfruta de una función inigualable en la Arena Coliseo con los tradicionales Martes de Glamour  (posted by Martes de Glamour Oficial )

The fourth match almost had a disaster.

CMLL (SAT) 09/02/2023 Arena Coliseo
1) Acero & Aéreo vs Full Metal & Pequeño Polvora
2) Futuro, Grako, Halcón Suriano Jr. vs Cachorro, Diamond, Inquisidor
3) La Jarochita, La Magnifica, Skadi vs La Catalina, Stephanie Vaquer, Zeuxis
4) Blue Panther Jr. & Dark Panther vs Felino & Felino Jr.
5) Star Jr., Titán, Valiente vs Cavernario, Euforia, Stuka Jr.
6) Atlantis Jr., Máscara Dorada, Volador Jr. vs Ángel de Oro, Dragón Rojo Jr., Niebla Roja

This seems more star power than the average Saturday. Not sure why.

CMLL Informa announced Block B on Copa Indepdencia

Copa Independencia Block B (09/08)

  • Dark Panther
  • Stigma
  • Dulce Gardenia
  • Hombre Bala Jr.
  • Star Black
  • Max Star
  • Hijo del Villano III
  • Rugido
  • Akuma
  • Zandokan Jr.
  • Coyote
  • Crixis

CMLL is holding a post-Aniversario after party at Club Los Angeles starting at 8pm. More info is here. CMLL seemed to say they were going to debut a new wrestler at the party. I guess they technically said they were going to debut a “new personage,” so it could be a mascot or something.

Updated 09/23 Fantastica Mania UK talent list

  • Atlantis Jr.
  • Magia Blanca
  • Hechicero
  • Okumura
  • El Audaz
  • Capitan Suicida
  • Sangre Imperial
  • Zandokan Jr.
  • Guerrero Maya Jr. – new
  • Titan – new
  • Ultimo Guerrero – new

That’s the complete list. It’s some good additions at the end. Okumura and Sangre Imperial don’t thrill me but it’s a strong lineup otherwise. Atlantis Jr. and Hechicero will also appear on 09/24 ReyPro show.

The 09/29 CMLL show will be the Noche de Campeones show. As always, the matches are determined by fan vote and voting will be done on CMLL’s website. (It wasn’t live as I went to post). These six titles are on the line this year:

  • the CMLL Women’s Championship, which is vacant. The top two vote gets of Skadi, Zeuxis, Hera, Stephanie Vaquer, Amapola, and La Catalina will meet for the vacant title.
  • Mercurio will defend the CMLL Pequeno Estrellas championship against Angelito, Minos or Pierrothito.
  • Barbaro Cavernario will defend the CMLL Light Heavyweight championship against Averno, Esfinge or Dark Panther
  • Los Atrapasuenos (Rey Cometa, Espiritu Negro and Dulce Gardenia) defend the Mexican National Trios championship against Zandokan, Villano III Jr. and Hijo del Villano III or Apocalipsis, Disturbio and Cholo or Enfermero Jr., Dr. Karonte Jr. I, and Dr. Karonte Jr. II
  • Titan will defend the CMLL World Welterweight Championship against Fugaz, Mascara Dorada or Astral
  • Mistico will defend the (NWA) World Historic Middleweight Championship against Virus, Dragon Rojo Jr. or Star Jr.

I didn’t have strong feelings about who should win last year. I do feel stronger this year. Mistico versus Virus on a big stage in 2023 would be fascinating. It’s also unlikely; Dragon Rojo coming out of the Aniversario show figures to get a lot of support. Titan defending against Mascara Dorada is the obvious pick there, as is Atrapsuenos versus Zandokan and the Villanos. (That seems like the most likely title change of the defended titles.) Either Averno or Dark Panther would be good Barbaro Cavernario challengers, but CMLL runs big Averno singles matches and they don’t run big Dark Panther ones, so that’s the one I’d prefer here.

The women’s match is fascinating. The women always get a lot of votes in these contests, but the structure of it promotes more voting. About half of these matches are decided on quickly, with one person/team running away with it. There’s less of a motivation to vote. The women’s match is top two, and so that’s going to keep fans voting in it longer and more often than the other categories. (That match will almost certainly main event this show based on having the most votes.) The fan support for the women doesn’t always line up with how they’re pushed in CMLL. I think the default expectation is Zeuxis and Vaquer in the final, but Hera and even Skadi have fanbases, and Catalina has left over WWE fans who she can mobilize if she so chooses. Be prepared for an unusual champion to come out of all of this.

IWRG

IWRG , FILL (TUE) 08/29/2023 Arena Naucalpan [IWRG, Mas Lucha]
1) Cosmic & Rossel b Carnicero & Último Caballero LIVE | Torneo FILL 108: GYM Naucalpan vs GYM Tehuacán + 4 luchas más (posted by mluchatv)
2) Danessa & Hatana b Dehyna & Kali LIVE | Torneo FILL 108: GYM Naucalpan vs GYM Tehuacán + 4 luchas más (posted by mluchatv)
3) Milagro, Rey Gato, Sumed Black b Adrenalina, Cheff Benito, Súper Cometa LIVE | Torneo FILL 108: GYM Naucalpan vs GYM Tehuacán + 4 luchas más (posted by mluchatv)
Cheff Benito and Milagro had issues post match
4) Black Shadow Jr. & Thunder Storm b Arceus & Rey Esparatno LIVE | Torneo FILL 108: GYM Naucalpan vs GYM Tehuacán + 4 luchas más (posted by mluchatv)
Advertised as Arceus, Ryu, Tornado vs Black Shadow Jr., Rey Espartano, Thunder Storm
5) Águila Oriental, Águila Roja, Axoltol, Fussion, Ovett Jr., Rey Astaroth, Súper Boy b Belial, Black Killer, Caudillo Jr., Dracula Jr., Leyenda Oscura, Misterio Azul, Vali [Copa High PowerLIVE | Torneo FILL 108: GYM Naucalpan vs GYM Tehuacán + 4 luchas más (posted by mluchatv)
FILL vs Gym Explosion (Tehuacan), who wanted revenge after their loss

I have no thought about this show. They’re back on Thursday.

IWRG (THU) 08/31/2023 Arena Naucalpan
1) Blue Win & Tornado vs Águila Roja & Rey Aztaroth (Estado de México)
2) Arkano & Último Legendario vs Mr. Mike & Ovett Jr.
3) Bengalee, Hatana, Sagitarius vs Lolita, Sádika, Satania
4) Hellboy & Shocko vs León Dorado & Mr. Leo and Noisy Boy & Spider Fly
5) Ivan Rokov vs Hijo de Canis LupusHijo del Pirata Morgan [IWRG Rey del Ring]

IWRG’s been building to that main event for a while. I suspect Tornado missing the Tuesday show means he’s not actually on the Thursday one.

RGR will be running an Independence weekend show at Naucalpan.

IWRG , RGR (SUN) 09/17/2023 Arena Naucalpan
1) Noisy Boy & Spider Fly vs León Dorado & Mr. Leo 
2) Legado & Ryu vs Águila Roja & Histeriosys
3) Hijo de Canis Lupus vs Vito Fratelli [IWRG Rey del Ring]
4) Satania & Zyra vs J-Rod & Keyra
5) Diva Salvaje & Mamba vs Hijo del Fishman & Rey Espectro
6) Galeno del Mal vs Coronel VIPHell BoyCerebro NegroTonalliDr. CerebroHijo del Pirata MorganJessy Ventura [cage, mask, hair]
7) Diamante Azul (Indie) vs Forastero [RGR SUPREMO]

The Rey del Ring on 09/17 sure seems to telegraph who’s winning Thursday, but it is IWRG.

In other IWRG news, Super Comando, Mocho Cota Jr. and Tito Santana are the IWRG IC Trios champions. They won the titles in Nuevo Laredo from Espartaco, Latino and Tempestad, who I forgot even had the titles until I saw the poster.

Mas Lucha announced they’ll have their annual Torneo Supremo on October 15th.

Other News

10/21 RIOT “Funacion A Beneficio de Tablon”

Big Lucha will start putting up their most recent show on Thursday.

The Cassandro movie will open New York’s Latino Film Festival on 09/15. It’s supposed to be in theatres that day as well. That’s a Friday with no CMLL show, and I guess I’m probably going to the movies to see a luchador instead if it’s available near me. No promises to live tweet the results. El Paso will get a screening on the 12th.

Segunda Caida watched Panamian wrestling and gets tied up by a lot of Spider-Man.

Box y Lucha 3566 has a lot of things on the cover. Box y Lucha also released another bunch of 1957 Box y Luchas, though not exactly following along from the last ones. This is the fifth week in a row, so now it’ll be weird if it didn’t have one.

Box y Lucha also tries to explain the history of the Fray Diablo gimmicks. This is what I understood:

  • Fray Diablo I (2018) becomes Misericordioso
  • Fray Diablo II (2018) becomes Fray Diablo Jr. (2nd) then Humilde Jr.
  • Fray Diablo II (2021) becomes Neylux
  • Fray Diablo I (2022)
  • Porthos becomes Fray Diablo II (2023) then Fray Diablo Jr. (2023)