AAA on Televisa: 2014-07-05


taped 2014-06-27 @ Auditorio General José María Arteaga, Querétaro, Querétaro
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(year) 2000 Coahuila/Durango lineups added to the luchadb

My latest weird research project was going thru the 2000 archives of El Siglo de Torreon, pulling out all the lucha libre info I could find, and adding them to the database. It’s took well a month or two to transcribe them all, and they were added to the database over the last week. There are 279 events covering Coahuila and Durango for that year now. I believe I only had 1 prior.

If you’re someone running your own wrestling match database or otherwise want this info, the complete list of what I pulled together is here. I don’t know if anyone actually DOES, but I like the idea someone might.

I used the El Siglo de Torreon search, and simply searched for lucha libre. I ran another search for building “Arena Olimpico Laguna” to pick up a couple of stragglers, and it’s possible I missed some other ones. It was a lot of transcribing from newspapers, which means a lot of typos. I’ve cleaned up what I’ve caught but there’s still more in there.

The vast majority of the event records I have are just the lineups. This paper was still publishing all the local lineups up to a couple years ago regularly. Results would still be better, but you can still get a handle of some things.

And, so, some things I figured – which will probably only be interesting to people greatly interested in obscure lucha libre in Durango and Coahuila at a specific time.
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CMLL preview, TripleMania cage match

Tonight’s CMLL show has Negro Casas & Shocker defending their newly won their CMLL Tag Team championships against Rush & Sombra. Rush & Casas are two Fridays away from their hair match. The usual finish is Casas cheating to win as a way to prove he might be able to do the same in the hair match, but that doesn’t seem certain. Title matches results this time of year are driven by setting the field for the Universal Tournament. Casas & Sombra have other belts and would be in regardless of tonight’s result. Right now, Shocker’s in and Rush’s out. Rush is one of the favorites to win the tournament, but he’s got to be in it first. There’s still probably four to six weeks before the tournament takes place, enough time for Rush to win a title elsewhere, but he has a pretty good shot of taking care of that business tonight.

(Also, Rush & Sombra winning proves La Mascara is the worst. As if we didn’t know that already!)

The rest of the show includes Atlantis, Stuka Jr. and new tecnico Dragon Rojo taking on Ultimo Guerrero, Rey Escorpion and Polvora. Mascara Dorada and Fuego return from Japan elsewhere down the card, but are likely to be bumped from TV consideration by the women’s feud.

At the ice cream press conference, Joaquin Roldan told Apolo Valdes that the TripleMania card would probably be announced next week. Joaquin mentions there will be a cage match with mask and hair on the line in addition to the matches already announced. This is doubly disappointing, because AAA cage matches are always a mess and because the guys who are likely to be in it (Pentagon, Australian Suicide for sure, Jack & Angelico probably, whatever midcarders aren’t already booked likely) are very good at using the apron and the air between the ring and the floor. They can’t quite do that with a cage in their way. The dive off the top of the cage has been done a numbing amount of time and anything else to do with that cage would be dangerous; there’s nothing cages add in AAA (or CMLL or any lucha promotion) to make a match better.

AAA does a cage match every year because they feel the fans who come to TripleMania are more impressed by a steel structure and the spectacle someone falling off that structure then a good match. They actually may be right, but that’s too cynical even for me.

I guess this does make some sense if Myzteziz or Perro is in the match. Would be surprised if they were.

Chessman says they’ve been instructed to soften up Electroshock before Jeff Jarrett faces him at TripleMania, so I guess Jeff Jarrett is facing Electroshock at TripleMania.

Mini Psycho Circus would like a title shot against Dinastia or a feud with the Mini Vipers.

Princesa Sugehit video interview on her feud with Princesa Blanca.

Segunda Caida reviews Heavy Metal, Máximo, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero vs Shigeo Okumura, Tarzan Boy, Terrible, Universo 2000.

Dr. Wagner’s match in Stardom made it to the internet.

Nitro, back from France, talks about the classes he taught.

Shocker and Ultimo Guerrero are in the Chicago area on Sunday.

Sabor del Ring continues it’s bio of Centella Inca.

Makabre talks about his upcoming apuesta match.


AULL (SAT) 08/16/2014 Arena Lopez Mateos
1) Kiuby & Sky Fly vs Pequeño Demonio & Rey Inmortal
2) Pegazus, Shibata, Spider Boy vs Ave Negra, El Hijo De Zumbido, Ironía
3) Ángel de la Noche, Ángel Del Amor, Euro, Rey Krystal vs Epitafio, Leviatham, Samael, Tormento
4) Flamita & Terry 2000 vs Trauma I & Trauma II and Chucho el Roto & Yakuza and Dr. Cerebro & Sádico [Trofeo Adolfo Lopez Mateos]
5) Hijo De Dos Caras, Sin Cara, Tinieblas Jr. vs Averno, el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, Toscano

They announced Sin Cara and Perro on this day before TripleMania (which will make the rehearsals tough). The best guess for the match they’ll have at TripleMania is about the same match, and this will probably be a little cheaper. Also – Flamita!

great match roundup, week of 2014-07-05

Great/Excellent matches

got nothing

Shows Watched But Nothing Made The List
CMLL on Terra: 2014-07-06
AAA on Televisa: 2014-07-05
CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2014-07-05
CMLL on CadenaTres: 2014-07-05
CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-07-05

Matches To Watch Later
CMLL Puebla: 2014-07-06
taped 2014-06-16 @ Arena Puebla
Águila Egipcia, Black Tiger, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Fuerza Chicana, Guerrero Espacial, Toro Bill Jr.:
Astral, Asturiano, Bam Bam, Eléctrico, Meyer vs Blue Center, Demus 3:16, Pequeño Warrior, Pierrothito, Saurón in a cibernetico match:
Rey Escorpión © vs Atlantis for the CMLL World Light Heavyweight Championship:

IWRG Zona XXI: 2014-07-06
taped 2014-06-29 @ Arena Naucalpan
Apolo Estrada Jr. © vs Dr. Cerebro for the World Wrestling Stars Welterweight Championship


07/19-20 lucha times


Still no sign of any CMLL show on TV Mexiquense.

== AAA ==

AAA-Televisa: Part 2 from Xalapa. Minis, Alebrije/Argenis/Ludxor v Apache/Rockers, and Psycho Circus & Myzteziz vs Averno, Chessman, Daga and Zorro

== CMLL ==

FOX2: moved to 1pm on Saturday. Sombra/Shocker, Bufete del Amor vs Cavernario/Casas/UG

52MX: Indeseables vs Bucanero, Shocker, Terrible

Claro: Dragon Rojo vs Volador, Arena Coliseo Tag Title match. Maybe they’ll add crowd noise.

C3: Cavernario, Euforia, Mr. Niebla vs Maximo, Titan, Valiente

TVC Deportes (Puebla): Guerreros vs Atlantis, Valiente, Volador

Lucha Azteca: Indeseables vs Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Shocker

Terra Sunday: Bufete del Amor vs Euforia, Mr. Niebla, Niebla Roja.

== Other ==

Noches de Coliseo: More Mr. Nice?

IWRG (LAS/AYM): Maybe Wednesday, maybe Sunday


CMLL Titanes del Ring: 2014-06-28


taped 2014-06-22 @ Arena Coliseo

Astounding that they created a new intro (straight out of 1992) with Averno in it right as everyone should’ve known he was jumping. It’d also take like 15 seconds for someone to cut him out, and he’s going to be in there for three years.


Blue Panther headstand escape

Blue Panther vs Ephesto in a lightning match: Ephesto working maestros style is definitely not something you see everyday. He did reasonable well. It’s tough to compare him, because my mind immediately goes to Virus (this is much in the style of that Panther match) and you can be a good at this without being close to Virus. Ephesto seemed a little clumsy and out of practice at this style, and tired by the end, but he did do a few creative things and I’d like to see him try it again to see what he might come up with second run. Finish was almost kind of disappointment; these matches usually lead to creative submissions, but instead this was the flash armbar as if they needed to get out as quick as possible. The rest of the match was built around every hold being a battle, but ended with no battle. Still, an interesting change of pace.

royal frontcracker

Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Kamaitachi, Puma, Shigeo Okumura: Good match, although one where a couple of iffy moments in the third fall caused them to lose the crowd quite a bit. Guerrero Maya Jr.’s tope on Okumura was complete lunacy. He and Delta might be a world class tag team if they ever got more than 4 2v2 matches in a year. Puma remains very good, very underutilized.



Máximo, Super Porky, Volador Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión: Standard Máximo/Porky match with them being out of the way for the finish. Seen way too many of these lately to appreciate it. Dragon Rojo and Rey Escorpión had one single spot of disagreement which came and went; I don’t think we would’ve realized they meant to start a breakup here if this had aired live. Pólvora legit had trouble slamming Brazo de Plata (and dropped him pretty awkwardly when he did drop him.) Porky is having a lot of trouble moving around and accidentally got in the way of spots in the third fall because of his immobility.

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IWRG, AAA & ice cream treats

IWRG (WED) 07/16/2014 Arena Naucalpan [IWRG]
1) Sky Ángel b Atomic Star
2) Anubis Black & Matrix Jr. b Payaso De Plata & Payaso Extremo
3) Rayan & Spartan b Imposible & Metaleon
4) Canis Lupus, Danny Casas, Eterno DQ Diva Salvaje, Golden Magic, Relámpago
Rudos took straight falls, Eterno faked a foul for a DQ.
5) Dr. Cerebro b Fuerza Guerrera, Veneno, Apolo Estrada Jr.
Eliminations went Fuerza (Veneno), Veneno (Apolo) and Apolo (Cerebro).

A show!

Tercera Caida had Black Terry on as a guest, and split up the post show conversation into a lot of questions: Terry talks about his movie appearance, his upcoming schedule, working as a referee in TxT, his championships and hair wins, the Temerarios, the injuries he’s suffered, his son, his pick for the biggest idol of lucha libre, his thoughts on the current lucha libre scene, and Black Terry’s social media presence.

CMLL has yesterday’s Informa here. Not a lot news, but plenty of cranky Virus. Also, Mr. Niebla and Zacarias explain how to get to Arena Mexico. You wouldn’t think that would be the best pair for that, but they’ve got subway instructions and bus instructions and outside video footage walking to the building – someone did some work here!

AAA held a press conference yesterday to announce new sponsor Helados Holanda, an ice cream dessert company. They’d previously turned up on AAA shows as a sponsor, but this was to make an official and talk about a contest where winners can get various AAA prizes (including a trip to a Hard Rock show.)

SuperLuchas takes on an issue of great importance: frequent mispellings on lucha libre posters. This is the scourge of my existence. More people have been able to spell “Myzteziz” than I would’ve guessed, but far from all of them. It’s tougher with local guys, since it’s impossible to tell if people are spelling their names for semi-unique/semi-inexplicable “Centvrion” like reasons or if the promoter or the person putting together the poster just wasn’t paying attention.

Dragon Rojo talks to ESTO about his career and tecnico change. In this telling, Dragon Rojo Sr. is his grandfather. Rojo’s short term goal is to be in a mask match at an Anniversary show.

Cronicas Y Leyendas look back at Joe Polardy and Perro Aguayo losing their hair and Ringo Mendoza vs Tony Benetto. The Tony Benetto thing has always confused me – he was around and a name for several years (an Anniversary show apuesta match there), then became the latest Gran Markus. There aren’t that many guys his size to begin with, everyone kind of had to immediately realize who under the Gran Markus mask which seems to defeat the point.

Texano attempted to steal Terrible away to AAA yesterday. No, literally. The AAA guys were headed on a bus to San Luis Potosi, while the CMLL guys were headed to Leon for the show they were promoting heavily on Terra and their buses just crossed paths along the way.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

Rob has highlights 0f 04/22/14 CMLL.

At the press conference to announce October’s WWE shows, WWE held out the carrot of possible TV taping in Mexico…in 2016.

CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2014-06-28


taped 2014-06-20 @ Arena México
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CMLL on CadenaTres: 2014-06-28


taped 2014-06-24 @ Arena México
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WWE to Mexico in October, Valiente/Euforia

CMLL (TUE) 07/15/2014 Arena México
1) Metatrón & Robin b Inquisidor & Zayco
2) Hombre Bala Jr., Oro Jr., Súper Halcón Jr. DQ El Rebelde, Hooligan, Metálico
Tecnicos took 1/3. Metalico pulled Oro’s mask again.
3) Okumura, Skándalo, Virus b Dragon Lee, Sagrado, Starman
Rudos took 2/3.
4) Guerrero Maya Jr. COR Kamaitachi [lightning]  (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Maya spinebustered Kamaitachi out of the ring, just about knocking him out. Kamaitachi hit hard, but it was a move where he couldn’t help hit hard.
5) Black Panther, Blue Panther, Cachorro b Puma, Tiger, Vangellys
Tecnicos took 1/3.
6) Cavernario, Euforia, Mr. Niebla DQ Máximo, Titán, Valiente
Rudos took 2/3, Euforia tossing his mask to Valiente to draw the DQ.

As the little film strip image indicates, this was the first week where the lightning match made it to CMLL’s official YouTube channel. You can watch the lightning match right now and try to figure out what those to guys were thinking trying to do spinebuster. I guess you’re not really a NJPW trainee in CMLL until you bsuffer a brain injury?

Cavernario’s recent successes have me wondering about his missing partner – Herodes Jr. hasn’t been booked in a month. Secret injury? His Facebook doesn’t mention anything about that.

CMLL (TUE) 07/15/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl]
1) El Brillante & El Divino b Acertijo & Magnum
Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Stigma b Demonio Maya, Demonio Rojo, Ráfaga
Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Omar Brunetti, Sky Kid, Smaker b Boby Zavala, Olímpico, Sangre Azteca
Rudos took 1/3, Olimpico & Zavala beating Sky Kid & Smaker.
4) Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada, Super Porky b Ephesto, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Shocker b La Máscara
Shocker took 1/3, the last by pulling Mascara’s mask and rolling him up.

I think that might be the right main event result.

WWE announced they’d make their annual appearance in Mexico on October 18th and 19th. They’ll be running Arena Ciudad de Mexico on Saturday and Arena Monterrey on Sunday. Just the nice arenas and not the smaller towns they’ve run prior. Cesaro and Rosa Mendez were there as the WWE representatives, which kind of makes me what Alberto del Rio was busy doing today and also points out how far Mexico has fallen in WWE’s list of priorities.

In an interview to hype the 07/25 Guadalajara show, Mil Mascaras talks about staying humble. The press conference for that show is next Wednesday.

WWL posted the debut episode of their TV show. That includes the Mesias vs Texano Jr. match from their first (and only) iPPV, which has been the best Texano match of his title reign. It starts about 27 minutes in.

An Xalapa reporter posted a quote and photo of Fenix on crutches, but I don’t see an accompanying story.

Rob has highlights of 06/09/1996 AAA and 07/03/1996 AAA.

Segunda Caida reviews Dos Caras Jr., Heavy Metal, Negro Casas vs Averno, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero


CMLL (MON) 07/21/2014 Arena Puebla
1) Black Tiger & Milenium vs Rey Apocalipsis & Toro Bill Jr.
2) Pegasso & Starman vs King Jaguar & Siki Ozama Jr.
3) Princesa Sugehit vs Princesa Blanca [lightning]
4) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Blue Center, Boby Zavala, El Cavernario
5) Máximo, Rush, Super Porky vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
6) Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero © vs Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr. [CMLL TRIOS]
Second defense for the Guerreros

Atlantis was the last challenge, tries different partners this time. Mid July means we’re officially in “titles changes are done to support a dumb tournament” season. There’s 16 CMLL champions right now, though 2 are currently broken. No one on the tecnico side is already a champion, so it’s stick at 16 even with change. Would they rather have the tecnicos in the CMLL Universal tournament or the rudos?

Whoever’s booking Puebla has no idea Dragon Rojo has turned – people are on all different pages on this one, which is just plain weird. If Blanca does lose and retire as everyone suspects, this tercera will be the only Sugehit versus Blanca singles match ever…unless they do it in Arena Mexico as well, which they really should.

CMLL (TUE) 07/22/2014 Arena México
1) Magnus & Sensei vs Apocalipsis & Ramstein
2) Angelito, Astral, Eléctrico vs Demus 3:16, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
3) Fuego, Rey Cometa, Tritón vs Ephesto, Misterioso Jr., Virus
4) Stuka Jr. vs Felino [lightning]
5) Marco Corleone, Máscara Dorada, Titán vs Cavernario, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
6) Valiente vs Euforia

They’ve been on/off building to a Valiente versus Euforia the last few weeks, but it’s another sort of rare singles non-title match (and their first ever singles match.)

Titan and Cavernario continue facing off. Title match seems to be happening either 07/29 or 08/05.

CMLL (TUE) 07/22/2014 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Exterminador & Virgo vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
2) Dark Angel, Estrellita, Silueta vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis
3) Sky Kid & Smaker vs Boby Zavala & Olímpico [OCCIDENTE TAG]
Third defense for Sky Kid and Smaker.
4) Ángel de Oro, Sagrado, Super Porky vs Kráneo, Mr. Águila, Ripper
5) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Shocker, Último Guerrero

The hat really outdid itself with the Boby Zavala & Olimpico team.

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