taped 2013-10-01 @ Arena Mexico
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Archive for November 1st, 2013
IWRG (THU) 10/31/2013 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr. (flickr), Estrellas del Ring]
1) Látigo b Zurdog
2) Araña de Plata & Electro Boy b Emperador Azteca & Hip Hop Man
Hip Hop Man, from 100% Lucha in Argentina, made his debut here in a loss.
3) Canis Lupus, Imposible, Picudo Jr. b Bugambilia, Diva Salvaje, Veneno
4) Trauma I & Trauma II b El Hijo del Medico Asesino & Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. [IWRG IC TAG]
Traumas came in as champions and took falls 1/3. Wagner stole Trauma 2′s mask in the third to pin him, but Medico was hurt after a Trauma dive. The real IWRG doctor ruled Medico unable to contonuie, and Trauma I beat Wagner to keep the titles. econd defense
5) Eterno, Fuerza Guerrera, X-Fly b Dr. Cerebro, Extreme Tiger, Relámpago
Alfredo has a recap of this week’s Tercera Caida, including Veneno being Veneno and Fantasma talking about his problems with CMLL. If you want a lot more detail on the later, you really ought to check out Fantasma’s after the show chat with the hosts. Fantasma does not hold back much in that, and it’s a 17 minute video that probably could’ve gone 30. (There are a couple edits, so maybe it did!) Rob called it a lucha libre shoot interview and it was pretty much as close as you’re going to get
You’re (always) better watching yourself and not relying on me to translate conversations, but pieces of note
- CMLL morale is generally bad – they have no hope of advancing because the office doesn’t even watch the matches and the people running the shows leave before they’re over.
- Lots of CMLL people say they want to jump, but don’t have the guts to do it when it comes to it.
- CMLL lets people go to the ring drunk or high.
- Very critical of a certain wrestler going from opening matches to main events over night, skipping over a lot of deserving person, but it helps to be someone’s “brother”. (Fantasma said it in quotes, more or less.)
- Points at favoritism when it comes to Japan/FantasticaMania bookings. Felt CMLL had Fantasma work with all the Japanese wrestlers when they came in and the Japanese guys always liked him, and the CMLL guys would always tell him he’d be going but it’d turn out someone else would go.
- Praise for many people he now gets to work with in AAA. (He’s the mystery guy in Tonala, and also excited for the Queretaro match.)
- CMLL opening matches can’t touch AAA opening matches.
On one of those points: Now that the Anniversary show is long past, the Gran Guerrero push Fantasma is refereeing to really sticks out as a horrible case of nepotism. It made a little sense to introduce and push him hard if CMLL was laying the groundwork for some Guerrero Switch during an Atlantis/Ultimo Guerrero mask match, but that was never even teased as happening and now that mask match is TBD. Gran Guerrero is arguably the second worst rudo being pushed near the top (similar nepotism champion Pierroth has first placed locked up), and unarguably not at the level of Euforia & Niebla Roja, guys who’s spots he’s taking. Gran Guerrero isn’t hopeless, but he’s nowhere near ready for the spot they’ve put him in, doesn’t help his team, doesn’t help his opponents look good, doesn’t have any particular charisma or any other attribute to help him stand out. (In this case, even Mistico II is better, because they can at least try to the ‘special charisma’ case. Gran Guerrero is just a guy.) There’s absolutely no reason Gran Guerrero should be in the spot he’s in besides he’s the “brother” of a guy who has power and gets to do whatever he wants. It’s not good for CMLL, it’s not good for the other luchadors and it’s not good for the fans, but none of those things matter much to the people in charge.
The bit about people in charge leaving before shows are over and no one watching the matches is a pretty strong shot at CMLL (but also one that appears to be true.) Luchadors going to the ring in no condition is not news if you see certain main events (and people who get brought back time after time), but there usually an omerta-like silence in Mexico about drug and alcohol usage near lucha libre. It stands out when luchadors are actually willing to talk about it.
I don’t know if there will be a lot of blow back about this; none of the CMLL office use the internet, and this part of the interview only aired on the internet. Some will still get back to them, but CMLL’s pretty unaffected by criticism – even this past week, Ultimo Guerrero appeared in SuperLuchas critical of people chanting fraude for the Anniversary show because the rules were announced but not addressing the underlining problem which led to that unhappiness.
(Bonus person taking a shot at CMLL.)
CMLL’s main event tonight is Rush vs Tama Tonga, which seemed like it might also be the year end hair match main event. Howerver, it also seems way too soon for Tama to lose his hair in Mexico (not to mention where he is in NJPW) and it’s really not been as hot as Rush’s other feuds so far. The Dalys and Marcela feud goes on and on (and is probably in line for their own hair match challenges now.) Sombra and Volador also meet up yet again in the semifinal.
CMLL may to have joined the Seguro Popular public health insurance program. That’s the one AAA signed up for earlier this year and Daniel Aceves works with, but the article is so short that it’s not clear if CMLL actually became part of the program or if they simply put on a show to promote the program and gave the person in charge a title belt.
AAA teases the upcoming debut of Ludxor & Venum.
AAA will hold matches at a horror film festival. Psycho Circus appeared at the press conference to announce it.
A local lightweight tournament in Cuernavaca ended with Dr. Maldad defeating Kid Power by forfeit when Power was injured before the match. Unlike some other locales, they found a new challenger and still had a title match (which Maldad won in straight falls.)
Bombero Infernal and Tony Rivera talk about their hair match on Sunday.
Sadica brags about taking Bugmabilia’s hair for her fans.
Arena Queretaro has posted Marco Corleone’s medical note from the commission to explain why he wasn’t on their show this week. Probably wouldn’t need to resort to such things if CMLL would just announce when people are injured.
There’s a controversy over masks being given out at a this weekend at Washington State football game, with a student group claiming the masks are “culturally insensitive and demonstrate cultural appropriation at an institutional level” and “a marketing gimmick”. (Well, yes, that’s the point of lucha libre masks to start with.)
Lucha Libre in Japan
Andy Wu has left Queretaro and is with Wrestle-1. Pantera was supposed to go with him to wrestle on the shows, but won’t for whatever reason and Hijo del Pantera will replace him.
Wrestle-1 is also promoting an AJ Styles versus Seiya Sanada match. It’s listed as non-title, but you can probably already have a good guess at the Mesias/Styles Tonala result. (The ‘fun’ part of Mesias being the one getting this shot is English language websites listing him as ‘Judas Mesias’, a name from his unsuccessfully TNA run, instead of either name he actually is currently using.)