taped 2013-05-17 @ Arena Mexico

body slam finisher

Pegasso, Starman, Tritón vs Hooligan, Nitro, Skándalo: Another Tuareg match on Televisa. Wait a few weeks and you’ll see another one (as long as there’s no tournament.) Far few low blows in this matches, thought they still snuck one in. Also less Arkangel, which may be a connection. Hooligan remains fun and he should get something more to do. Everyone was about how they usually are.

Sombra outsmarts crazy man

Diamante Azul, La Sombra, Máximo vs Negro Casas, Pierroth, Shinsuke Nakamura: If Pierroth was any good and was meant to be serious, he probably shouldn’t be signing t-shirts for friends and taking Maximo’s kiss in match #2. He’s not any good and no one takes him any seriously so generally whatever, but maybe put people in situations to succeed. The Nakamura/Sombra stuff was world’s better than anything else in this match, but I’m not sure if the crowd totally cared. Unremarkable formula match other.

photo by Black Terry Jr.

Toryumon Mexico (SAT) 06/15/2013 Arena Mexico [Black Terry Jr. (flickr), Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
***DragonMania VIII***
1) Leonidas & Vengador Radioactivo b Krator Jr. & Raider
2) Bastet, La Comandante, Mima Shimoda b Baby Star, Dalis la Caribeña, Marcela
3) Gran Guerrero b Violento Jack and Aero Boy and Magnus and Relámpago (Coahuila) and Hijo del Signo and Epidemia and Lucifer and Laberinto and Robin (CMLL) and Kato Kung Lee and Comando Negro and Fusion [Dragon Scramble]
Gran Guerrero replaced Fusion
4) Mascara Dorada II & Shockercito b Eléctrico & Voladorcito Jr.
No details on the new Dorada, but would appear to be out of Voladorcito’s troupe.
5) Super Ciudadano b El Chacal
Sponsor match – Ciudadano is sponsor and both were people not wrestling under their usual names. Chacal looks like Akuma, not sure about Ciudadano.
6) Douki & Hanaoka b Celestik I & Celestik II [mask]
Japoneses del Mal put up their hair. Douki pinned Celestik I for the win. The Celestiks are Antonio & Alberto Garcia, 20 & 26 years old. Alberto is presumably the older one.
7) Brazo de Plata, Brazo de Platino, Máximo b Loco Max, Magno, Otoko Sakari
Comedy match. Otoko wrestles in a thong. His partners turned on him after the match, with the Brazos making the save.
8) Atlantis, Rayo de Jalisco Jr., Último Dragón b Mike Knox, Ohara, Último Guerrero
Mike Knox is from TNA, replacing SUWA. Ohara & Dragon feuded. Tecnicos took 2/3, Ohara DQed for pulling Dragon’s mask in the second and Dragon beat him in the third.

Ultimo Dragon usually teases a mask match with Ultimo Guerrero on these shows. Ultimo Dragon did not tease a mask match with Ultimo Guerrero, or at least it was downplayed enough not to be mentioned. Ultimo Guerrero has a mask match with Atlantis before the next DragonMania. Make of all that what you will.

Mike Knox is a wrestler from TNA who appeared on this show, was not treated like a big deal, did not get a win to build up to a return match that’s not happening. The day later, TripleMania. Definitely different thought processes going on.

Celestiks came out of nowhere, won the Toryumon tag team tournament last year, lost their masks this year. I’m sure there’s a good story here (and that maybe they’re just not the Celestiks), but I have no idea what the story is.

Building looks very full. Violento Jack posted his backstage pass, which looks nice.

CMLL (MON) 06/17/2013 Arena Puebla [El Popular (cover), Poblanerias]
1) Saurón & Zayco b Génesis & Milenium
Zayco suplexed Millenium to set up the win.
2) Leono, Robin, Tigre Rojo Jr. b Cholo, Espíritu Maligno, Inquisidor
Leono submitted Inquisidor.
3) Fuego, Sagrado, Stigma b Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus
Straight falls.
4) Kráneo, Morphosis, Psicosis b Blue Panther, Delta, Hijo del Fantasma
Kraneo flattened Blue Panther for the win.
5) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente DQ Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
Rudos took the first, La Mistica on Averno in the second, rudos pulled Dorada’s mask in the third. Tecnicos wanted a rematch.

Cinco Radio had the wrong main event finish last night. It happens and they’re still setting up a rematch either way.

If you purchased the TripleMania iPPV, you should have received an email this afternoon stating refunds are being processed for the show. The email says you should expect to have your money back in 48 hours. This is all from uStream; I suspect part of the reason AAA is being clear on blaming uStream for the problem is they’ll also be looking for a refund for whatever it cost to bring a uStream tech to their show to broadcast it. I hope they get it, if it’s theirs to get.

AAA did upload TripleMania in four parts on their YouTube channel. It took a lot longer than AAA were expecting; the first part of the show didn’t go up until very late in the evening, and the following parts went live very early Tuesday. They did post a video apologizing for the lateness. It sounds like file size is an issue, which is why they ended up breaking it in parts and probably why it’s in Standard Definition.  I wonder if AAA also might have run into music rights issues with YouTube as well; everyone runs into those. AAA’s internet staff was working from Saturday until the time those videos got up this morning and could use a long nap.

CMLL has a show today that’s not available on a stream in any fashion. So weird. Mascara Dorada vs Averno is the main event, where Dorada’s newly won NWA Welterweight Championship is on the line (but not Averno’s national welterweight title.) Dorada should win, but it more should be an outstanding match. Main event is a sort of rematch from Sunday’s trios title match, with Titan in for Dorada and Gran Guerrero in for Niebla Roja. Over in Guadalajara, Bam Bam and Mercurio have a hair match where I don’t really have an idea who’s going to win, but my hunch is Mercurio. IWRG has a FILL trainee show in Naucalpan, and IWL is running in Arena Aficion.

Okumura declared Bushiroad a traitor – “he betrayed his people, he betrayed his country, and he betrayed his flag.” Okumura says he’s not at all focused on his upcoming lightning match with Hombre Bala because he and the rest of the Fiebre Amarilla are so upset with Bushiroad siding with the Mexicans. Okumura demands an apology, and warns another NJPW luchador will soon be on the way to actually work with the rudos.

A report on Friday’s AAA spot show in Queretaro mentions how Juvi worked the rudo side.  It seems like the usual alternate reality of AAA spots shows – they don’t match up with TV, they just figure out who’s assigned to the show and divvy up sides. This time, however, Juvi explained he was on the rudo side because AAA hasn’t supported him while he’s been injured. Juvi’s been missing from AAA TV shows since Rey de Reyes and an injury would explain it. Andy Wu, one of two AJPW trainees sent to Mexico months ago to train with Pantera who were never mentioned again, is listed as working in the segunda. I’d assumed they long ago went back home.

Fenix, Faby Apache and Mary Apache will appear on DTU 07/05 Arena Queretaro. They’re also promising two extreme matches on every show of the three show tour.

IWRG hasn’t updated with Sunday results. I’ll put together what I have from the TV show tomorrow. Probably.

LuchaWorld has a KrisZ’s news update.

Links

• Podcast interview with Dinamikoo & Black Tiger.
• Photos from the latest Expo Mascaras.
• Angelica responds to Sadica as they built to a LLF title match.
• Morenos make hair match challenges, live in an alternate universe where people are desperate to see a Morenos hair match.

Lineups

CMLL (SUN) 06/23/2013 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala & Fresbee vs Cholo & Herodes Jr.
2) Black Metal, Metálico, Molotov vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Disturbio, Hijo del Signo
3) Bushiroad, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Namajague, Puma, Shigeo Okumura
4) Diamante vs Boby Zavala [lightning]
5) Diamante Azul, Máscara Dorada, Mistico vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
6) La Máscara, Rush, Titán vs Mr. Águila, Psicosis, Volador Jr.

Black Metal & Barbaro Cavernario from Guadalajara make their DF debut. Metal was paired up with Triton (Metal Blanco = White Metal) and Titan at times when they were all wrestling in GDL and had been mentioned as the next guy to make the jump. It’s taken a while longer. Barbaro has been the frequently victorious young rudo in the building. Perhaps this is foreshadowing to a new Generaction 2013 class?

Aguila and Rush might have a side feud beyond the hair match feud. They should be back in Arena Mexico in two weeks.

Tercera looks great. Semimain is a match that’s been happening a lot suddenly, with Azul in for Valiente. I guess they’re not totally different, they both do monkey flips at times.

CMLL (SUN) 06/23/2013 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Índigo vs Samael
2) El Divino & Virgo vs Acertijo & Joker
3) Esfinge & León Blanco vs Mr. Trueno & Rey Trueno
4) Starman vs Gallo, Smaker, Leo, Halcón de Plata, Arkángel de la Muerte, Espectrum, Ráfaga, Maléfico, Olímpico [Copa 54 Anniversario]
5) Atlantis & Valiente vs Gran Guerrero & Último Guerrero

I sure hope Valiente breaks thru and makes it to the main event someday. (I think he’s playing En Busca de un Idolo for a title match with Polvora or Dragon Rojo, which is not the worst prize. Or maybe he gets Mascara Dorada and we all lose our minds.)

Next week appears to be the big Anniversary show with the mask match, but the cibernetico should mean something.

There’s an AULL Samael. This is probably not that guy. Joker is another new name. Acertijo is Riddler, so that’s a kind of Batman villains team.

A lot of these same luchadors will be working another show in Guadalajara the same today, to honor Americo Rocca. The semimain has Los Xaviers (Valaguez, Cruz, Rocca) teaming up one more time with son Javier Cruz Jr.

Toryumon Mexico (SAT) 06/15/2013 Arena Mexico [Black Terry Jr. (flickr), Estrellas del Ring, The Gladiatores]
1) Leonidas & Vengador Radioactivo b Krator Jr. & Raider
2) Bastet, La Comandante, Mima Shimoda b Baby Star, Dalis la Caribeña, Marcela
3) Gran Guerrero b Violento Jack and Aero Boy and Magnus and Relámpago (Coahuila) and Hijo del Signo and Epidemia and Lucifer and Laberinto and Robin (CMLL) and Kato Kung Lee and Comando Negro and Fusion [Dragon Scramble]
Gran Guerrero replaced Fusion
4) Mascara Dorada II & Shockercito b Eléctrico & Voladorcito Jr.
No details on the new Dorada, but would appear to be out of Voladorcito’s troupe.
5) Super Ciudadano b El Chacal
Sponsor match – Ciudadano is sponsor and both were people not wrestling under their usual names. Chacal looks like Akuma, not sure about Ciudadano.
6) Douki & Hanaoka b Celestik I & Celestik II [mask]
Japoneses del Mal put up their hair. Douki pinned Celestik I for the win. The Celestiks are Antonio & Alberto Garcia, 20 & 26 years old. Alberto is presumably the older one.
7) Brazo de Plata, Brazo de Platino, Máximo b Loco Max, Magno, Otoko Sakari
Comedy match. Otoko wrestles in a thong. His partners turned on him after the match, with the Brazos making the save.
8) Atlantis, Rayo de Jalisco Jr., Último Dragón b Mike Knox, Ohara, Último Guerrero
Mike Knox is from TNA, replacing SUWA. Ohara & Dragon feuded. Tecnicos took 2/3, Ohara DQed for pulling Dragon’s mask in the second and Dragon beat him in the third.

There are two Puebla shows below; last week’s Monday one didn’t air until Friday. Mexicanal did air a (SLP) La Lucha Se Le Hace show; it seemed to be an older introduction to the promotion (highlights included matches from last year and the previous building.) It’s also 100x better video/audio quality than the stream.

I am posting TripleMania. That was not the plan, but since AAA is uploading it for free viewing, there’s no reason for me not do as well. The Perro/Cibernetico match will go up later today. Sendspace is being very slow.

If you watch Nakamura/Rush from these files, please let me know how edited it turned out to be. I haven’t seen the TV version – I’m still going thru last week’s TV, all these matches are overwhelming for me as they are for you – and I’m thinking I could try splicing together what I have of the feed and the TV version if they cut it up too bad. I don’t know if they did.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYyNnOBGWP7RkB0Ax9A92-_Cf7NYAIk5t

06/15 WWC: http://www.sendspace.com/file/7ujgtu
06/16 WWC: http://www.sendspace.com/file/fg0kd1

CMLL on Terra: 2013-06-11
taped 2013-06-11 @ Arena Mexico
1) Fuego vs Misterioso Jr. in a En Busca de un Idolo match
http://www.sendspace.com/file/v8jx4s
2) Stuka Jr. vs Sangre Azteca in a En Busca de un Idolo match
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pljb6l

CMLL on Terra: 2013-06-14
taped 2013-06-14 @ Arena Mexico
1) Negro Casas, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Fuego, Vangellys, Virus in a En Busca de un Idolo match
http://www.sendspace.com/file/fxfk7t

CMLL Puebla: 2013-06-14
taped 2013-05-27 @ Arena Puebla
Full Show: http://ul.to/2fqn7r4x
1) Blue Center & Centauro de Fuego vs Akrón & Siki Osama
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5fpyuh
2) Camaleón, Höruz, Leono vs Disturbio, Nitro, Nosferatu
http://www.sendspace.com/file/isnq11
3) Pegasso, Sagrado, Stigma vs Boby Zavala, Namajague, Shigeo Okumura
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5gqjg7
4) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Hijo del Fantasma vs Felino, Mephisto, Negro Casas
http://www.sendspace.com/file/g7rr2d
5) Atlantis, La Máscara, Rush vs Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rm73ls

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-06-15
taped 2013-06-09 @ Arena Coliseo
Full Show: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ydmdlj
1) Delta & Niebla Roja vs Pólvora, Stuka Jr., Rey Cometa, Tiger, Valiente, Mr. Águila [seeding battle royal]
http://www.sendspace.com/file/dpkciv
2) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Mr. Águila, Psicosis, Volador Jr. for the CMLL World Trios  quarterfinal match
http://www.sendspace.com/file/m7c7cf
3) La Máscara, La Sombra, Rey Cometa vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Tiger for the CMLL World Trios  quarterfinal match
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kphvbg
4) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Tiger for the CMLL World Trios semifinal match
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jx3ldg
5) Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Stuka Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión for the CMLL World Trios quarterfinal match
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kgwqss
6) Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero vs Atlantis, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. for the CMLL World Trios quarterfinal match
http://www.sendspace.com/file/m5ib5w
7) Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Rey Escorpión for the CMLL World Trios  semifinal match
http://www.sendspace.com/file/uub238
8) Rush vs Shinsuke Nakamura
http://www.sendspace.com/file/26iiiu

CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2013-06-15
taped 2013-06-07 @ Arena Mexico
Intro: http://www.sendspace.com/file/xy1nd4
1) Máximo, Rush, Thunder vs Mr. Águila, Negro Casas, Pólvora
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jpieuc
2) Atlantis, Diamante Azul, La Máscara vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero
http://www.sendspace.com/file/i961uf

CMLL on Televisa: 2013-06-15
taped 2013-06-07 @ Arena Mexico
Full Show: http://www.sendspace.com/file/db0wqg
Intro: http://www.sendspace.com/file/5yx87g
1) Astral & Eléctrico vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia
http://www.sendspace.com/file/diw8bi
2) Diamante, Pegasso, Tritón vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Shigeo Okumura
http://www.sendspace.com/file/swmf0h
3) La Sombra, Máscara Dorada, Mistico vs Euforia, Terrible, Volador Jr.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/g08het

CMLL on CadenaTres: 2013-06-16
taped 2013-06-11 @ Arena Mexico
Intro: http://www.sendspace.com/file/9nh0uv
1) Höruz & Oro Jr. vs Guerrero Negro Jr. & Ramstein
http://www.sendspace.com/file/dflobs
2) Astral, Eléctrico, Fantasy vs Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito
http://www.sendspace.com/file/340bg5
3) Delta, Diamante, Hijo del Fantasma vs Cancerbero, Nosferatu, Raziel
http://www.sendspace.com/file/hebmp2
4) La Máscara, Super Porky, Thunder vs Gran Guerrero, Mr. Niebla, Terrible
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ac84ld
Stellar Moments
http://www.sendspace.com/file/z8x8v7
5) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
http://www.sendspace.com/file/l1kun5
Ending
http://www.sendspace.com/file/4s862a

CMLL on Terra: 2013-06-16
taped 2013-06-16 @ Arena Mexico
Full Show: http://ul.to/ibx385md
1) Metatrón & Sensei vs Akuma & Zayco
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2zm3bg - joined in progress
2) Molotov, Soberano Jr., Stigma vs Apocalipsis, Espanto Jr., Inquisidor
http://www.sendspace.com/file/en5r7e
3) Dark Angel vs Lluvia, Estrellita, Goya Kong, Dalis la Caribeña, Tiffany, Princesa Sugheit, La Comandante, Zeuxis, La Seductora in a cibernetico match
http://www.sendspace.com/file/f7f9fm
4) La Máscara, Rush, Titán vs Kráneo, Mr. Águila, Psicosis
Dancing
http://www.sendspace.com/file/hkegwu
5) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente vs Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero for the CMLL World Trios tournament final match
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sy03x6

Noches de Coliseo: 2013-06-16
taped 2013-04-14 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Blue Panther & Sagrado vs Caifan & Rey Hechicero
http://www.sendspace.com/file/9mshiw
taped 2013-06-09 @ Arena Coliseo Monterrey
2) Baby Power & Chely Rock vs Lady Maravilla & Sky Kid
http://www.sendspace.com/file/p3mvbi
3) Aero Boy & Violento Jack vs Pedro Navajas & Super Jack
http://www.sendspace.com/file/zecc3l

IWRG Zona XXI: 2013-06-16
taped 2013-06-16 @ Arena Naucalpan
Full Show: http://ul.to/i7nikp3w
1) Acero, Ángel Del Amor, Seiya vs Cerebro Negro, Imposible, Zafiro (DF) 
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2wjylw
2) Centvrión, Chico Che, Golden Magic vs Factor, Rayan, Spartan
http://ul.to/ijcnu7tu
3) Hijo de Máscara Año 2000 & Hijo de Pirata Morgan vs Dr. Cerebro & X-Fly in a relevos increíbles match
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6iaphb

AAA TripleMania: 2013-06-16
taped 2013-06-16 @ Arena Ciudad de Mexico
Intro: http://www.sendspace.com/file/aj6wpw
1) Mamba, Mini Abismo Negro, Silver King, Taya Valkyrie vs Dinastía, El Elegido, Faby Apache, Pimpinela Escarlata
Part 1: http://www.sendspace.com/file/bqs90f (interrupted)
Part 2:  http://www.sendspace.com/file/wg4je1
2) Chessman vs Heavy Metal in a Number One Contenders Match  for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship
http://www.sendspace.com/file/g3fk0x
3) Angélico & Jack Evans vs Drago & Fénix and Daga & Psicosis and Crazy Boy & Joe Lider and Mr. E & Sexy B for the AAA World Tag Team Championship
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ua4mte
4) Monster Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown vs Jeff Jarrett, Matt Morgan, Monster Pain
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5wr184
5) Heavy Metal vs Texano Jr. for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ykayzv
Abismo Negro Tribute
http://www.sendspace.com/file/hqgjjb
6) El Mesías vs Blue Demon Jr. for the AAA Latin American Championship
http://www.sendspace.com/file/b39dwi
7) Dr. Wagner Jr., Electroshock, La Parka, Octagón vs Canek, Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000, Villano IV
http://www.sendspace.com/file/me33fc
Hector Garza tribute
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mgs4eb
8) el Hijo del Perro Aguayo vs Cibernético, hair vs hair
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s2onyy

CMLL Puebla: 2013-06-17
taped 2013-06-03 @ Arena Puebla
Full Show: http://ul.to/6amrl0rv
1) Asturiano & Black Tiger vs Ares & El Malayo
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8som9j
2) Metálico, Sensei, Starman vs Hijo del Signo, Hooligan, Nitro
http://www.sendspace.com/file/iq00cq
3) Diamante, Rey Cometa, Stigma vs Misterioso Jr., Puma, Sangre Azteca
http://www.sendspace.com/file/v0sdcz
4) Blue Panther, Shocker, Super Porky vs Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
http://www.sendspace.com/file/y4jsfu
5) Atlantis, La Máscara, Rush vs Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/oq2mcv

taped 2013-05-17 @ Arena Mexico

friendship double elbow

Delta, Rey Cometa, Sagrado vs Kráneo, Namajague, Olímpico: An okay match with the usual guys. Nothing wrong with it, but nothing to stand out between the similar ones. Cometa did not do the Brillo Tornillo this week, which is fine given how close he came to missing it. I wish we got to see more of Darth Vader & Yoda’s entrance.

Sagrado, anti dancing

Rush, Super Porky, Thunder vs Averno, Mephisto, Volador Jr.: Poor. The técnico trio really made miss Bufete del Amor. Thunder’s not any good, and Porky has no business being allowed to being in wrestling matches at this point. Rush was fine, but there’s better matches for him and everyone else in this match.

CMLL (SUN) 06/16/2013 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl]
1) Idolo & Javier Cruz Jr. b Acertijo & Satara
Acertijo replaced Thunder Boy. Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Esfinge, León Blanco, Virgo b Espectrum, Infierno, Ráfaga
Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Azteca de Oro & Sky Kid b Demonio Rojo & Sádico and El Hippie & Leo and Évola & Exterminador
list as Full Ring de Parejas, reads like a four way elimination match. Exterminador fouled Hippie to cause his disqualification. Demonio Rojo jumped on Hipipe to pin him. Azteca de Oro & Sky Kid beat Demonio Rojo. This sets up a Demonio Rojo vs Azteca de Oro mask match for 06/30, which will be Arena Coliseo Guadalajara’s anniversary show.
4) Princesa Blanca b Luna Mágica [lightning]
5) Bárbaro Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas b Hijo del Fantasma, Rey Cometa, Tritón
listed as a straight fall win, Nibela beating Fantasma in both falls.

Black Terry Jr. has a lot of photos from Saturday’s Toryumon Mexico show. I haven’t seen results yet, but it seems like the usual Ultimo Dragon-ness. (Atlantis won a TV!) A Mascarita Dorada II did wrestle on the show, as did Vengador Radiactivo from Arena Xalapa. The Dragon Rumble seemed to include people even more random than usual – Relampago! Violento Jack! Aero Boy! – and also Magnus.

The turnout for Dragonmania, which I believe is mostly free tickets, looks to be more than the Friday or Sunday shows in the same building. Black Terry Jr. was told he could not post his photos from TripleMania. AAA let the Yahoo! Deportes photographer post his photos.

R de Rudo also has photos from the AAA post show press conference. It’s something to see El Hijo del Perro Aguayo, covered in blood, dedicating his win to the late Hector Garza. One year ago, El Hijo del Perro Aguayo was covered in blood, blaming Hector Garza for his loss.

R de Rudo also interviewed Hijo del Santo about his son. Santo sort of refers to his stint in NOAH like a summer job, “he could’ve just taken a break in Mexico, but he decided to work.” He wants Tempestad to not wrestle like a clone of himself and Santo and instead be his own complete luchador. Hijo del Santo says Canek is one of the best Mexican heavyweights ever and he’d like Temepstad to wrestle more like him.

Rob has highlights of 11/09/12 CMLL.

LuchaWorld has a recap of the CMLL on Terra show and KrisZ’s news update.

Links

• Very good Box Y Lucha post (!) about a CMLL/trainees show honoring Kato Kung Lee this past Saturday.
• Ultimo Gladiador & Ultimo Vampiro won the IWL Tag Team championships yesterday.
• Ricky Marvin won the Powerslam Wrestling Heavyweight Championship, a Canadian title, in a three way with The Hornet and Eita in Veracruz.
• DTU has a poster for their July tour.
• Cronicas y Leyendas looks back at Perro Aguayo vs Nikozuna, Shu el Guerrero vs Coloso, and Mano Negra vs Oro.
• Coahuila luchador Dragon is retiring.
• Zumbi thinks he’s already a winner – just for getting in the ring with Santo & Demon.

photo by CMLL

CMLL (SUN) 06/16/2013 Arena Mexico
1) Metatrón & Sensei b Akuma & Zayco
Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Molotov, Soberano Jr., Stigma b Apocalipsis, Espanto Jr., Inquisidor
Tecnicos took 2/3, Molotov pinning Inquisidor (though it sure looked like a double pin to me.)
3) Dalis la Caribeña b Dark Angel, Lluvia, Estrellita, Goya Kong, Tiffany, Princesa Sugheit, La Comandante, Zeuxis, La Seductora [cibernetico]
Dark Angel replaces Silueta. Eliminations went Zeuxis (Dalis), Lluvia (Seductora), Comandante (Goya), Estrellita (Tiffany), Seductora (Dark Angel), Goya Kong (Tiffany & Princesa Sugheit), Tiffany (Dark Angel), Dark Angel (Sugheit), Sugheit (Dallys casita.)
4) La Máscara, Rush, Titán b Kráneo, Mr. Águila, Psicosis
Rush destroyed Mr. Aguila with dropkicks in this match, then dropped him on his head with a Rush Driver. Rush put his foot on Aguila’s face while yelling him at for an apuesta match.
5) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente b Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero [CMLL TRIOS, final]
Tecnicos took 1/3 in a good match, with a La Mistica on Ultimo Guerrero to win it. Estetas become 25th champion.

First three matches were not good. Rush started destroying people in the semimain and things turned around. Main event was a lot of fun. It was very much an Ultimo Guerrero match, but the tecnicos got to look exactly like the high flying tecnico trio they were set up to be. It probably deserved to be at a higher exposure occasion (though the crowd appeared to be good) and it’s not helpful to lump all the big tecnico triumphs together because it hurts their impact, but it’s made for some fun matches.

Running list of people who appear to be in the cage match CMLL hasn’t announced: Rush, Mr. Aguila, Negro Casas, Rey Escorpion, Blue Panther, Averno, Brazo de Plata, Shocker and Maximo. Terrible fits based off the En Busca de un Idolo incident on Friday, which would make an even 10.

Women’s match had some frustrating results, even beyond the finish. Crowd was mixed at best about Dallys winning, unlike when Goya won a similar match. (They were also very unhappy when Goya lost.) Never try a casita on a Casas family members unless they’ve tried one first. It works if you escape and put on your own, but if you try it before they do, you’re doomed.

This seems minor to complain about compared to other streaming issues, but Terra’s had a problem with their feeds lagging behind each other for weeks now and really needs to fix it already. It doesn’t do their product any good for different parts of the show airing at different times, especially when someone of those feeds don’t finish before the show ends. Maybe now that they’re “only doing two shows a week”, they can find some time to resolve this problem.

The actual talk about the show itself has gotten passed over for talk about the iPPV. I’m going to try and do both, but I’ll do the talk about the actual show first.

The tag match sounds like it was the best match of the show, and the legends match the least in quality. Main event is the style thing – if you like the bloody, interference and controversy style match, you’ll like it.

The big omission from those results was Abismo Negro being added to the Hall of Fame. Abismo family and Mini Abismo accepted on his behalf. That was an easy call and probably in the works for a while. Hector Garza should be added next year.

One big correction on the results: Goyito Perez was NOT at the show. He posted on Twitter about 90 minutes before the show that he was not going to make it. (Deportivo was the first to pick up on this.) Octagon later mentioned Goyito suffered a knee injury, which is an odd thing to crop up just 90 minutes before a show. Perez’s previous posts were about flight issues. I dunno. Whatever happened, it may explain why Dorian Roldan was involved in the Legends match, a storyline he didn’t really fit in at all – either he was there to get hit by Perez, or Perez was supposed to hit someone in the match and they needed a new way to set up a questionable finish. It still seems like a spot that might have better fit with Konnan – remember, he was the guy being credit for putting the team together at the AAA Press Conference – but maybe it’ll make more sense when it airs.

That match kept the Villano IV vs La Parka feud. That’s a pretty great mask match for Villano IV if he’s getting it. It also continued a theme on the night: as much as AAA has talked up it’s great new young stars, it went strongly behind the older names tonight. Ray Mendoza Jr. (Villano V) was brought in to face Texano Jr. in a title match down the line, the Legends match was moved to the semimain and even the tag team title match turned into background for another Vampiro vs Konnan match.

There’s a good line of thought that you need recognizable names if you’re heading to new places, but it’s a disappointing turn of events to anyone who likes the current AAA product for the exciting young luchadors. There was not a big break thru moment for any of them on this show. Vampiro is far more popular than Fenix because of his fantastic 90s run. The problem is all the fans of Vampiro are the fans from that time; anyone new is going to see a man who does not have much left offer. Lucha libre in general is obsessed with bringing back those fans from past glory periods, but they might want to give reasons for new fans to come aboard at some point.

Texano could be pointed as the young break thru luchador, but his impact has been greatly minimized. It sounds like they gave his title match all the treatments of a major match, without actually positioning it like one. Positioning it fourth on the card, behind another title match, and setting up a retired luchador as the top challenger makes it a secondary title. AAA also has become weirdly reliant on fan’s knowledge and interest in CMLL storylines to make the challengers to this title. We were supposed to care about Heavy Metal vs Texano because (among other reasons), they had a hair match that even I couldn’t remember. We’re supposed to take Villano V seriously as a challenger not because of anything he did in AAA years ago, but because he beat Blue Panther in a mask match. For a promotion who has no regard for CMLL’s creativity (for good reason!), this is so weird.

Of course, the heavyweight title is still better than the trios titles.

I’ll talk more about the show after we see it.

Next taping: heck if I know.

iPPV notes.

People who contacted uStream about a refund have been told refunding is in process. Really just a form letter, but it’s a good sign about getting their money.  AAA’s comments on this suggest this part of the deal is not in their hands – it may be something where uStream holds the money until the show airs successfully and so AAA doesn’t have access to it themselves to return it. This may not be a speedy process; uStream customer support seems off on the weekend (which sure didn’t help here) and so they’re just starting to handle it today. uStream should refund everyone, but it would not hurt to contact customer support to ask for one. If you did order the show, let me know how your refund works out.

AAA has been very apologetic about the situation, but also are shifting all the blame  to uStream. I find it hard to believe it’s completely uStream’s fault based on other promotions having no problem with the service. It does not absolve AAA from handling the iPPV failure horribly on the day of the show. There was little word on what was going on, there was evidently no backup plan in case of a problem (which should have been no surprise given other iPPVs) and users had to wait until about midnight to get a solution. AAA was unprepared.

Again, iPPV revenues for TripleMania were not much. If I had to guess, I’d guess it was less than they paid for Matt Morgan. There’s the issue of annoying a dedicated group of fans. There’s also the issue that AAA wants to run in two different countries as essentially two different companies, and the level of issue here doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence in that. Maybe they just didn’t have the manpower to make sure affected people were kept informed about the outage yesterday, but if they didn’t have enough for that, are they going to be handle the logistics of TV tapings in different countries? 1 bad iPPV doesn’t mean they can’t pull this off, but throw in things like whatever happened with Octagon Jr.  and other issues and you should have some doubts about this. AAA was ambitious to put on an iPPV, but they were not capable of their ambitions. AAA’s ambitious to run in the US, and I don’t know.

I think there also a cultural divide going on. As a hardcore wrestling fan in the US, we’re tend to be more skeptical/paranoid about wrestling promotions. We tend to look for them to stay true to carnival roots, focused on ways to scam the money from the marks, and the entertaining stuff that happens in between is just a happy accident. That’s really not true of most promotions, but I think we’ve got our guards up for something like to happen. (Unfortunately, I think this is why the Masked Republic Kickstarter has struggled so far.) When a show takes $15 for a show that didn’t happen, that plays right into those beliefs. I’m not sure it’s the same feeling in Mexico or elsewhere. I kind of get the vibe that it’s more a “they tried, these things happened, let’s just move on” in some places, but then I also saw a lot of angry words in Spanish in uStream’s chat box last night.

Update 1:30pm: Marisela Pena is saying they flew in a uStream tech from Germany who could not get the stream to work. AAA had no problem broadcasting the show up to the point where uStream was supposed to take over, so they feel it’s uStream’s fault. The uStream tech blamed AAA.

taped 2013-05-21 @ Arena Mexico

Espanto is disturbing

Fresbee & Magnus vs Espanto Jr. & Herodes Jr.: Mr. Niebla appears to have been a bad influence on Espanto! Match was okay, which means good for the openers around here. Magnus sure has fallen a long way to be teaming with Freesbe.

Goya Kong, Lady Afrodita, Luna Mágica vs Amapola, Mima Shimoda, Tiffany: This match was so tedious. I feel like I must get something out of it so it’s not the worst way I’ve ever used my time, but it’s very tough. Afrodita being the worst of the three técnicas must be it. Afrodita seems strongly disliked by the rudas, and not on a tecnica vs ruda way. I kind of want to see them put Isis in the match, because I must know how bad she must be if these three are allowed to have matches and she’s not.

no

Hombre Bala Jr., Pegasso, Sagrado vs Cancerbero, Hijo del Signo, Virus: Hombre Bala got a spotlight match with a good rudo in Cancerbero, and had a bad outing. He just looked rougher than usual in a few different spots. Signo is not as good a partner as Raziel, so not so much the team work you’d want out of a Cancerbero match but everyone else was fine.

Garza

Delta, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Boby Zavala, Disturbio, Vangellys: An okay match for one with a couple guys who aren’t used to the rest of this mix. Bobby was fine, but Disturbio didn’t seem as aggressive as he usually is in segundas. Delta also seemed off. They still had an okay match, but probably not as good as one as they could if (until?) Zavala and Disturbio are more regularly facing these guys. As usual with CMLL replacements, they were treated as if on the same level with everyone else.

more monkey flips

Diamante Azul, Mistico, Thunder vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Tiger: You can’t put Thunder and Azul in the same match. No rudo team is good enough to handle them both. Thunder disappeared for a while in the second fall, requiring the rudos to run around to cover up for him. Azul looked competent by comparison. Add on Místico, and it’s a credit to TRT to get as much out of this match as they did.

The uStream was listed as offline for most of the first hour it was supposed to be on, then “Live” without every actually showing a picture. AAA twice mentioned there were problems and they were working on them, then mentioned there’d be that press conference to explain it. It wasn’t immediately obvious they meant a press conference after the show.

Here's the message @Lucha_Libre_AAA has put up on their uStream. No mention of refunds or a press conference. pic.twitter.com/lFqcpt63gS

— luchablog (@luchablog) June 17, 2013

None of this was mentioned on the uStream themselves page itself. Instead, this message was put up, blaming uStream from the problem. No explanation of what would happen next was listed on the uStream page and AAA stopped updating the situation on their Twitter after the message was posted.

Roberto Figuera, who was at TripleMania and has a business relationship with AAA, posted this message on Twitter

Para todos aquellos que no pudieron ver Triplemania por iPPV, tengo entendido que se repetirá el Miércoles 8pm.

— Roberto Figueroa (@RJ_Figueroa) June 17, 2013

That says the show will reair on Wednesday at 8 pm. AAA themselves have said nothing about this.

AAA handled this horribly. Not having the stream up is disastrous. AAA also has talked a lot about how important social media is for them, and they completely fell down there. AAA did not acknowledge there was a problem until 15-20 minutes after the show started, they did not keep people updated, they did offer a remedy, and they made people wait for information from other sources to find out what went on.

Plenty of other wrestling companies have used uStream without having this happen. Plenty of other people were able to use the internet in Arena Ciudad de Mexico. Only AAA had this problem, and their shifting of the blame seems duplicitous at best. It’s also beside the point – the only thing people watching that window wanted to see was TripleMania or some info about when they might see TripleMania. AAA gave an excuse instead, and not even hint about when they might get to see what they paid for.

iPPV revenue is tiny portion of the revenue for this show. If they had 200 buys for a show with no promotion outside of Mexico, and no promotion on their TV as an iPPV, that would’ve been a grand success. AAA still sold conventional PPVs (which dropped off during opener but was fine for the rest of the show) and still appear to have sold most of the tickets in the building.  Still, iPPV buyers were either the strongest fans AAA has or casual fans from other places AAA hopes to be running soon, and AAA has left those fans feeling robbed. Those aren’t the fans who are going to support you going forward.

If AAA ever does another iPPV, I would advise not buying it. Go to a show if you can, but don’t trust that AAA can handle something like this.

Honestly, I’m about as furious about how they handled the feed not working as about the feed itself. It’s unacceptable for a fly by night indy promotion, much less a promotion that claims to be major league.

I’ll update this if/when any more information is posted.

Update: 

Dorian Roldan’s addressed the situation on Twitter

http://twitter.com/dorianroldan/status/346489116596244483

http://twitter.com/dorianroldan/status/346489450752245761

http://twitter.com/dorianroldan/status/346489784815992832

Dorian apologizes for the problem. He puts the blame on uStream. He says refunds are already being processed and the show will be posted on AAA’s website tomorrow as a make good.

Assuming the refunds actually turn up in full, that’s a good first step. It doesn’t make up the time people spent trying to watch a show they couldn’t see, or missing out on the experience of watching a show live. It’s enough to stop people from hounding you about this problem for the rest of time, but it doesn’t totally make up for the experience. I’d still say not to buy an AAA iPPV in the future until they have a strong track record.

Welcome to live coverage of AAA and CMLL’s major shows on today.

TripleMania XXI (El Hijo del Perro Aguayo vs Cibernetico) kicks off at 6:30 pm Central Time and should last about 4 hours.

CMLL’s weekly Sunday show, held this week in Arena Mexico, starts at 5:00 pm Central Time and will last about 2 hours and 15 minutes. Live coverage will begin with that show.

The most detailed discussion of the show will be in the chat, posted below. Results will also be posted on this page and sporadically on Twitter.

AAA’s TripleMania can be purchased on http://www.ustream.tv/channel/aaaluchalibre for $15, as well as thru Sky PPV in Mexico. Please note: anyone asking for or sharing feeds of the event may be banned from the chat.

AAA TV (SUN) 06/g16/2013 Arena Ciudad de Mexico
***TripleMania XXI***
1) Dinastía, El Elegido, Faby Apache, Pimpinela Escarlata b Mamba, Mini Abismo Negro, Silver King, Taya Valkyrie
2) Heavy Metal b Chessman [#1 Contenders, AAA HEAVY]
Metal pinned Chessman with a casita.
3) Crazy Boy & Joe Lider b Angélico & Jack Evans and Drago & Fénix and Daga & Psicosis and Mr. E & Sexy B [AAA TAG]
championships are vacant. Winners will . Mr. E & Sexy B are from WWL, and beat Angelico & Jack. Drago & Fenix beat them. Lider & Crazy beat Perros del Mal. Crazy Boy gave Drago a piledriver for the win. Mexican Powers became 11th champions. Vampiro presented them with the belts, which brought out Konnan for an argument and a teased match between them.
4) Jeff Jarrett, Matt Morgan, Monster Pain b Monster Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown
Jarrett won and Marisela and Karen feuded.
5) Texano Jr. b Heavy Metal [AAA HEAVY]
Texano Jr. beat Metal, making his sixth defense.
6) Blue Demon Jr. b El Mesías [AAA LA]
Hugo Savinovich seconded Mesias. Axel seconded Demon. Clean match which the crowd didn’t like. Blue Demon Jr. won the title. LA Park made a surprise appearance, announcing he was leaving AAA (he’d already left), handing Blue Demon the title and talking up both men. They all hugged.
7) Dr. Wagner Jr., Electroshock, La Parka, Octagón b Canek, Máscara Año 2000, Universo 2000, Villano IV
Goyito Perez was with Octagon but never a factor. Goyito Perez did not appear on the show. Dorian Roldan was with the legends and interfering often, though it wasn’t clear they wanted his help at the end. Wagner beat Universo.
8) el Hijo del Perro Aguayo b Cibernético [hair]
tons of interference and blood. Cibernetico had Perro pinned, but the ref was down and the back up didn’t arrive in time. Perro came back to win with the double stomp. He dedicated the win to Hector Garza and his family (Garza was also honored before the match.) Cibernetico was shaved clean.

CMLL’s show can be seen for free on terra.mx. You’ll want to switch to the Bajo feed – the other feeds are lagging many minutes behind (and probably buffering for even longer.)

CMLL (SUN) 06/16/2013 Arena Mexico
1) Metatrón & Sensei b Akuma & Zayco
Tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Molotov, Soberano Jr., Stigma b Apocalipsis, Espanto Jr., Inquisidor
Tecnicos took 2/3, Molotov pinning Inquisidor (though it sure looked like a double pin to me.)
3) Dalis la Caribeña b Dark Angel, Lluvia, Estrellita, Goya Kong, Tiffany, Princesa Sugheit, La Comandante, Zeuxis, La Seductora [cibernetico]
Dark Angel replaces Silueta. Eliminations went Zeuxis (Dalis), Lluvia (Seductora), Comandante (Goya), Estrellita (Tiffany), Seductora (Dark Angel), Goya Kong (Tiffany & Princesa Sugheit), Tiffany (Dark Angel), Dark Angel (Sugheit), Sugheit (Dallys casita.)
4) La Máscara, Rush, Titán b Kráneo, Mr. Águila, Psicosis
Rush destroyed Mr. Aguila with dropkciks in this match, then dropped him on his head with a Rush Driver. Rush put his foot on Aguila’s face while yelling him at for an apuesta match.
5) Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente b Euforia, Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero [CMLL TRIOS, final]
Tecnicos took 1/3 in a good match, with a La Mistica on Ultimo Guerrero to win it. Estetas become 25th champion.

Chat is below