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CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-10-12

Astral & Olimpico take out the champ


Sacrifica Maya

taped 2013-10-01 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
Astral & Eléctrico vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia: a much more solid match for the técnicos than their recent (at the time) Arena Mexico appearance – Astral wasn’t missing things by a foot this time. Pequeño Violencia, on the other hand, didn’t look good and did not seem much into the match. Olímpico was fine and the match was generally the same, getting better in the end

Guerrero Maya straight on tope

taped 2013-10-06 @ Arena Mexico

Virus ringpost armdrag

Virus vs Guerrero Maya Jr. for the CMLL World Super Lightweight Championship: EXCELLENT – the best testament to the quality of this match is how people reacted to the Guerrero/Malenko cradle reversal spot. An overdone cliché spot that never ends a match, got people to believe it might actually end that way. (Since a hold no one was expected actually did it, the people probably should’ve expected it!) All three falls were great fun and built on top of each other well. The first two falls were as much a fight as a Rush match, just a fight over skill rather than force, and they both beautifully built into the finish. The third fall was more like a normal CMLL big match, thought his one had runs of offense and guys in trouble for minutes only to rally back (and a lot more than move and a kickout.) They even brought back the finish of the previous match from two years ago as a near fall, which I don’t even know if most people who saw this remembered but really worked well if you did. They did everything right here. This is one of the best matches of the year.


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Hijo de Mascara Ano 2000 wins Guerra Revolucionaria

IWRG (SUN) 11/10/2013 Arena Naucalpan [IWRG]
1) Emperador Azteca & Sky Ángel b Matrix Jr. & Zurdog
2) Atomic Star & Electro Boy b Alfa & Omega and Fulgor I & Fulgor II
Alfa & Omega were beat first, then the Fulgors.
3) Imposible, Nimrod, Oficial 911 b Astro Rey Jr., Chico Che, Dragón Celestial
Rudos took 1/3.
4) Hijo de Máscara Año 2000 b X-Fly, Veneno, El Hijo del Diablo, Golden Magic, Apolo Estrada Jr., Trauma II, Douki, Spartan, Anubis Black, Picudo Jr., Danny Casas, Trauma I, Alan Extreme, Bombero Infernal, Eterno, Saruman, Tony Rivera, Dr. Cerebro, Oficial AK47 [Guerra Revolucionaria, #1 Contenders, Rey del Ring]
Hijo de Mascara Ano 2000 defeated Trauma I to win, will get a title shot against Oficial 911 at some point.

2/3/4 aired LAS. Second match was quick but violent. Main event was expected chaos. Anubis Black appears to be another Trauma – maybe trainee Leroy who had a similar outfit?

Black Terry Jr. has photos of the Coliseo Coacalco show with Shu el Guerrero versus Negro Navarro and the RCH show.

Ciber Payaso took Euforia (Monterrey)’s hair in Arena Coliseo Monterrey.

The lineups for the Puebla lucha libre expo are expected to be announced today.

Dinamic Black and Fresero Jr. talk about their tag title win.

great match roundup, week of 2013-10-12

Great/Excellent Matches

CMLL Guerreros del Ring on 52MX: 2013-10-12
taped 2013-10-06 @ Arena Mexico
Virus vs Guerrero Maya Jr. for the CMLL World Super Lightweight Championship: EXCELLENT

Shows Watched But Nothing Made The List

CMLL on CadenaTres: 2013-10-12
CMLL on Fox Sports (Mexico): 2013-10-12
AAA on UTDN: 2013-10-17 – though I really liked the Angelico/Jack/Suicide vs Pain/Eterno/Carta match

Matches To Watch Later

Tercera Caida Presents: 2013-10-13

taped 2013-08-25 @ Coliseo Coacalco
Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Black Terry
Valiente & Virus vs Trauma I & Trauma II

CMLL Puebla: 2013-10-13
taped 2013-09-30 @ Arena Puebla
Atlantis, Blue Panther, Shocker vs Black Terry, Negro Navarro, Solar I

IWRG Zona XXI: 2013-10-14
taped 2013-10-06 @ Arena Naucalpan
Black Terry, Dragón Celestial, Golden Magic vs Bombero Infernal, Ciclón Black, Tony Rivera


Joe Lider wins a hair, Guerreros win in Coliseo, Sombra defeats Euforia

DTU (SAT) 11/09/2013 Arena Xalapa [Arena XalapaDTU]
6) Joe Lider b Ángel o Demonio [hair]

No results from the rest of the show, but it should air on TVC Deportes. Angel O Demonio’s hair looks buzzed in the Xalapa picture.

Tercera Caida aired today. Besides a ton of highlights, they had an extended preview of the ChilagnaMask card. I haven’t thought about a lot since the full card was announced, but the show reminded me how fun the card looks. Negro Navarro versus Valiente! Solar versus Black Terry! Many other internet favorites!

photo by Alexis Salazar

CMLL (SUN) 11/10/2013 Arena Coliseo
1) Aéreo & Stukita b Pequeño Violencia & Último Dragoncito
Draongcito subbed for Universo 2000, wearing his street clothes and a mask, and did not want to play rudo or help Pequeno Violencia. Tecnicos won 2/3 in a below average match. Crowd was not into the match
2) Magnus, Metatrón, Starman DQ Camorra, Cancerbero, Raziel
Tecnicos took straight falls. Camorra feuded with Starman for no particular reason and took his mask for the DQ.
3) Fuego, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. b Namajague, Sangre Azteca, Shigeo Okumura
tecnicos took falls 2/3
4) Delta b Misterioso Jr. [lightning]
Delta won via legs trapped campana in 8:27.
5) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Super Porky b Niebla Roja, Pierroth, Tama Tonga
Pierrothito introduced Pierroth, making it very strange he wasn’t the sub in the first match. Tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Gran Guerrero, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero b Máscara Dorada, Mistico, Valiente
Rudos took 1/3.

Tedious, lackluster show.

Next week’s show is back in Arena Mexico. Announcers were heavily promoting Tuesday’s show. Not only does it has the 2×1 ticket special (for rows 11 and back) they’ve been pushing all week, but buying a ticket to that show gets you free into the bodybuilding contest next week. Last Tuesday’s attendance was dreadful, but i’m sure CMLL knows by now that 1 ticket deal isn’t going to fix that (or the last 50 would’ve done it); wonder if there’s something else going on here.

I believe there are changes to Friday’s card that haven’t been announced yet. Negro Casas will move to the semimain to replace Pierroth, and the rudo main event side will be a TRT trio (not sure what members.) This hasn’t been confirmed yet but CMLL was doing off TV promos with those as the top two matches today.

CMLL (SUN) 11/10/2013 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [@acogdl]
1) Explosivo & Índigo b El Tapatío & Satara
tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Idolo, Javier Cruz Jr., Virgo b Ángel del Mal, El Yaqui, Jocker
tecnicos took 1/3
3) Esfinge, Leo, Virgo b Demonio Rojo, Mr. Trueno, Rey Trueno
tecnicos took 2/3
4) Psicosis, Ráfaga, Vangelis b Black Metal, Sagrado, Titán
rudos took 1/3
5) La Sombra b Euforia
Euforia took fall 1 and Sombra took fall 2 in quick falls, then Sombra won a long third fall.

Sombra and Euforia started out as rivals, so that was probably a pretty good match.

Rob has highlights of 09/03/13 CMLL.

LuchaWorld has KrisZ’s news update.

This week’s SuperLibre has interviews with Titan and Gran Cochisse.

Cronicas y Leyendas looks back at Robot C3 losing his mask, the EMLL 49th Anniversary show, Herodes versus Andre el Gigante, and the Juniors of 1991.

Princesa Sugehit says she’s spending five hours a day in the gym to get ready for the bodybuilding contest.

AAA explains Blue Demon has been off the shows because he’s been busy in the US. Uh huh.

Escoria says La Secta says they will finish with Cibernetico and Perro after Queretaro.

AAA interviews Mesias on Monday.

Eric R did not like the latest Uprising: Lucha Libre.


CMLL (SUN) 11/17/2013 Arena Mexico
1) Acero & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Warrior
2) Magnus, Stigma, Súper Halcón Jr. vs Camorra, Hijo del Signo, Nosferatu
3) Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr., Tritón vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Hooligan, Nitro
4) Dark Angel vs Dalys [lightning]
5) Rey Cometa, Super Porky, Thunder vs Niebla Roja, Último Guerrero, Volador Jr.
6) La Sombra, Titán, Valiente vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto

Better show? Main event looks promising. Semimain looks weird. Tercera could be good. Dark Angel makes her CMLL return right in time to be in the bodybuilding contest. Stigma/Camorra resumes. Back to back weeks with Magnus and Stukita?

CMLL TRAGEDIAS (SAT) 11/16/2013 Deportivo el Pavon
***Brazo de Plata 36th Anniversary show***
1) Demonio Del Pantano & Guerrillero vs Brazo De Oro Jr. & Robin
2) Dinamic Black, Flyer, Golden Magic vs Canis Lupus, Centvrión, Freelance
3) Aramis, Goya Kong, Muneca De Plata vs Estrellita, Princesa Sugheit, Tiffany
4) Guerrero Maya Jr., La Máscara, Super Brazo vs Averno, Ephesto, Mephisto
5) Brazo de Oro, Brazo de Platino, Super Porky vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Mr. Niebla, Pierroth

Not to be confused with the El Brazo tribute show.

Lucha Azteca TV show notes

Lucha Azteca is a CMLL show airing matches from the Friday night taping on Azteca America in the US. The show generally will air 2pm CT on Saturdays.

Today’s debut show aired matches from 10/25 Arena Mexico show

  • Blue Panther, Máximo, Mistico vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
  • Máscara Dorada vs Niebla Roja [lightning]
  • Tama Tonga, Terrible, Vangellys vs La Sombra, Rush, Thunder

It’s close to but not exactly what’s airing on Fox Sports. Lucha Azteca is 42 minutes and Fox Sports can be as long as 50. Azteca subbed in a shorter lightning match for a trios this week to accommodate the shorter time and may have cut a couple minutes from the opener. I’d expect there will be weeks where they just air two matches to fit the time.

Lucha Azteca has network specific introductions, graphics and bumpers, but the match announcing is the same as on Fox and Terra. The show is broadcast in Standard Definition – there are no black bars or aspect ratio messiness.

I’ll be posting these shows as a complete files on Tuesdays. All the matches appear to be ones which I would have already uploaded to YouTube – either from the Terra airing (where they’d be complete and usually in better video quality) or from Fox Sports – so these won’t be up via that channel unless something strange happens.

This is an interesting show if you aren’t or can’t watch the Fox Sports show. It’s not a lot new if you do get it. (Since the crossover of people who can see both shows is about the same amount of people who visit the website, it’s generally a worthwhile show for most people.)

Edit: The show IS in HD – for people who live in El Paso or Los Angeles, the only locations which have HD Azteca America affiliates. Hopefully they bring HD to other places.

Rush & La Mascara keep tag titles, Brazo tribute show

photo by Alexis Salazar

CMLL (FRI) 11/08/2013 Arena Mexico
1) Astral & Bam Bam b Pequeño Olímpico & Pierrothito
Tecnicos took 2/3. Astral had his usual up and down match and is in cartoon shape.
2) Dalys, Princesa Blanca, Princesa Sugheit b Goya Kong, Marcela, Silueta
Marcela replaced Luna, which meant more Dalys/Marcela. Rudas took 2/3, Blanca beating Marcela for the win.
3) Ángel de Oro, Delta, Guerrero Maya Jr. b Felino, Puma, Tiger
Delta & Guerrero Maya wore their newly won Arena Coliseo tag team championships. Tecnicos took 2/3 in a mostly good match. Felino was hurt near the end of the second fall (wrist?) and stayed out of the match until the very end of the third fall. He took the loss to a casita.
4) Máximo b Rey Escorpión [lightning]
Maximo won in 6:01 and asked for a hair match. Escorpion didn’t think Maximo was worthy.
5) La Máscara & Rush DQ Tama Tonga & Terrible [CMLL TAG]
Rush & La Mascara are champions. Moved to semimain. Tama/Terrible took the first fall, champions took the second fall, Mascara beat Terrible, Tama beat Mascara, and Rush faked a foul from Tama for the DQ. Crowd and challengers were very unhappy with Rush. First defense for Mascara & Rush.
6) Atlantis, La Sombra, Shocker DQ Euforia, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero
straight falls for the tecnicos, the last when UG pulled Atlantis’ mask for the DQ.

Two straight DQs to end the show. Maximo/Rey Escorpion doesn’t seem like it’s going anywhere. Rush versus Tonga it is.

The Felino/Puma/Tiger vs Maya/Delta/Angel de Oro match was the best match of the Terra broadcast. CMLL on 52MX did end up airing the Triton/Gallo/Smaker vs Cats trios match along with the two title matches from last Sunday.

A list of AAA, CMLL independents luchadors planned for the Brazo tribute show. It seems like more AAA names, but that’s because there’s more Brazos in CMLL already. (And they’ve got CMLL luchadors listed under Independents.) Show is scheduled for 11/23.

Super Crazy & Pesdailla did not beat Jushin Liger & Tiger Mask to win the GHC Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Championship.

An interview with Los Perros Locos from San Luis Potosi.

Porra Fresa previews Monday’s card.


IWRG (THU) 11/14/2013 Arena Naucalpan
1) Seiya vs Zurdog
2) Alfa & Omega vs Atomic Star & Electro Boy
3) Dragón Celestial, Látigo, Mr. Leo vs Anubis Black, Douki, Imposible
4) Golden Magic vs Canis Lupus
5) Trauma I, Trauma II, Veneno vs Alan Extreme, Eterno, Súper Nova

Super Nova returns! Probably. Semimain is non-title. Anubis Black appears to be a trainee who was given a new gimmick.

CMLL (FRI) 11/15/2013 Arena Mexico
1) Metálico & Molotov vs Disturbio & Espanto Jr.
2) Pegasso, Sagrado, Tritón vs Namajague, Sangre Azteca, Shigeo Okumura
3) Ángel de Oro, Fuego, Stuka Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Puma, Tiger
4) Titán vs Boby Zavala [lightning]
5) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Diamante Azul vs Felino, Mr. Niebla, Pierroth
6) La Máscara, La Sombra, Rush vs Negro Casas, Tama Tonga, Terrible

Mascara/Rush vs Tama/Terrible continues in the main event. Titan continues being in all the lightning matches. Namajague still is around. They almost remembered to team up the Cadetes del Espacio. 2/3/4 could all be fun.

11/22 AAA TV Lineup (Aguascalientes)

AAA TV (FRI) 11/22/2013 Plaza de Toros San Marcos, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes
1) Faby Apache, Pasion Kristal, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Mamba, Taya Valkyrie, Yuriko
2) Crazy Boy, Joe Lider, Niño Hamburguesa vs Eterno, Juventud Guerrera, Steve Pain
3) Monsther Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown vs Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, Dark Spíritu
4) Angélico, Fénix, Jack Evans vs Hijo del Fantasma, Silver King, Texano Jr.
5) Cibernético, el Hijo del Perro Aguayo, La Parka vs Daga, Parka Negra, Psicosis

Air Date: 11/30? This is a 1 week taping, which is odd because this needed to be a two week taping if AAA’s planned the rest of the year out. If the schedule Marisela sent out was right, they’ve got nothing for 12/07 (and one of these matches won’t air anyway.) The annual multi-channel Teleton is the weekend of 11/30 – maybe AAA’s pre-empted that weekend and this will air 12/07?

I think we all missed the angle where the Perros del Mal broke up. There’s no explanation yet of why Daga & Psicosis would be on opposite sides of their leader and it’s not listed as a relevos increíbles - I think if you’re going to put out a card where the main event either gives away a storyline event that hasn’t happened (or one you’re not actually going to do), the card should probably come with a reasoning why the match is happening. It just looks like you’re not paying attention.

It does look like Perro Aguayo is going tecnico. He’s been cheered every single day he’s been in the promotion and has played up to the crowd to get more cheers, but he also plays at being the rebel at the same time. I don’t know if those elements can co-exist, but it hasn’t been working as a rudo for a while now.

There may be a Fenix/Fantasma feud happening? There doesn’t appear to be any plans for Texano at GdT.

Second and third matches are ones AAA seemed to be setting up for Guerra de Titanes. Maybe they’ll happen on back to back shows. (Or maybe Cuervo and Ozz really are going, I dunno.)

Next taping is in Tepic on some day in December.


X-Fly beats Toscano, Mexico preview, AAA TV schedule

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (THU) 11/07/2013 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr. (flickr), IWRG]
1) Zurdog b Sky Ángel
2) Araña de Plata, Atomic Star, Electro Boy b Alfa, Hip Hop Man, Omega
Atomic Star & Electro Boy (I think) are wearing matching masks and Eterno t-shirts, so they may have formed a tag team.
3) Dragón Celestial, Mr. Leo, Seiya DQ Douki, Fulgor I, Fulgor II
Anubis Black made his debut replacing Fulgor I. Douki pulled Leo’s mask for the DQ.
4) Chico Che, Golden Magic, Relámpago b Canis Lupus, Imposible, Saruman
Golden beat Lupus, asked for a shot at his title.
5) Alan Extreme, Eterno, X-Fly b Dr. Cerebro, Toscano, Veneno
X-Fly used the ropes to beat Toscano.

Toscano lost to X-Fly! Toscano’s got to reevaluate things.

Canis Lupus’ title is the Welterweight one. Golden Magic and Dinamic Black went to a draw for that belt which should’ve set up a rematch, Dinamic Black left town, and Canis Lupus won the vacant title match which didn’t involve Golden Magic. He’s got a good claim there.

Whichever guys are wearing the Eterno shirts – I still struggle matching names with masks for the IWRG new guys – has been wearing them for a while. Not sure if trainees or related.

Douki on his new love of rabbits.

Tonight’s Arena Mexico has one built up big one match and one which might turn out to be big. The tag team title match promised last month might more or less happen tonight, with La Mascara & Rush facing off against Tama Tonga & Terrible. Tonga & Terrible make more sense as champions, but there might not be enough time to set up another title match before Tonga’s stint ends. In the lightning match, the last match which will air on Terra, Maximo takes on Rey Escorpion. That’s also a belated follow up to the 10/18 show, where Maximo challenged Rey Escorpion to a match after Escorpion took Brazo de Plata’s hair in their super libre plus match. CMLL should make it clear tonight if Maximo/Rey Escorpion is a possibility for the year end match. If not, then the main event may set up Rush/Tonga. Both happening in singles matches seem unlikely, though a tag apuesta match is not impossible.

Marisela Pena says the TV shows for the year are just the ones previously announced: 11/15 Queretaro, 11/22 in Aguascalientes, 12/07 in Tepic (Guerra de Titanes) and 11/14 in Puerto Vallarta. The Guerra de Titanes actual date is confusing – Marisela and Konnan have said the 7th, Dorian said the 8th and they announced the 8th at the last taping. Maybe they’ll run a promo on TV this week and make clear. That schedule means they only have 2 tapings before Guerra de Titanes and much of the card is a mystery. Like Heroes Inmortales, this is not going to be a big deal show.

A survey by Grupo Impacto Intelligent says 80.17% of Mexicans feel Hijo del Santo is the luchador who most represents Mexico. Only 41% of respondents had ever gone to a lucha libre show.

Polvora defends the CMLL Welterweight Championship against Black Metal next Sunday. Leo also defends his welterweight title.

Texano apparently has a hair hair match on 11/28. I don’t think he’s losing his hair.

AAA’s put up part one of their interview with Texano & Hijo del Fantasma.

Mr. Iguana is upset with Culican lucha libre – the local government took away their venue, the luchadors are not training near enough, and the promoters have stopped putting on shows.

11/09-11 lucha times


Azteca America starts airing a lucha libre program this weekend, Saturday at 2pm CT. It’s listed as “Lucha Azteca” (though it was listed “Lucha Libre” at first; may want to double check you’re still getting it if you previously set it to record.) It appears to be CMLL and my hunch it’s recycled Fox Sports shows. No one’s said anything for sure, so that’s all of a preview I can do.

I will be trying to record/upload this show. However, Azteca America and my DVR do not get along well – it’s as if the channel is a badly buffering web feed which occasionally causes my DVR just to freak out and reboot – so it’s not a sure thing I’ll get it up here. The good thing is, if I’m right about it being just stuff we’ve seen, it doesn’t really matter all that much.

== AAA ==

AAA-Televisa: Part 1 from Tonala. AAA says the AJ/Mesias match will not air until next week, so the trios main event will air for sure, and I’m guessing the Secta/Circus trios match. Women’s trios goes to UTDN in that situation.

== CMLL ==

FOX: Thru daylight savings time mishaps (for real), I know the plan was to air the top 3 matches from last week – the Terra main event (with a questionable shocker), Roja/UG/Volador vs Sombra/Mascara/Mistico, and Tama Tonga vs Rush.

52MX: Should be the two title matches. This would be a good week to skip the GDL match.

C3: Dorada, Mistico, Titan vs Aguila, Niebla and Namajague. Probably another bad show?

TVC Deportes (Puebla): Atlantis & Sombra vs UG & Volador

En Busca de un Idolo: Maybe this week they’ll air the final? This is listed as airing twice on Saturday, I just hope they manage once.

Terra Friday: Maximo vs Rey Escorpion is the friday main event with a promising tercera.

Terra Sunday: Estetas reunite to face Gran Guerrero, Ultimo Guerrero and Mr. Niebla

== Other ==

IWRG-AYM Sports: Which show? Who knows! Maybe tonights. Programming listings have updated a week late to indicate the show airing early

Noches de Coliseo: whatever they did last Sunday and probably even more repeats of the WWL show.

IWL: Unsure, since they ended the last taping and could go to any one of them and didn’t air last week.

DTU: There’s no preview this week. Maybe there’s no new show this week? (It’s moved to 2AM, so you have a wait ahead of you.)


CMLL Luchadors matches broken down by day of the week

I’ve broken down each luchador’s appearances by shows for this year. I’m counting events appeared on, not matches. (Luchadors are counted once per show, no matter how many matches they’re in.) I’ve only included at least people who’ve appeared on 10 shows. This includes the announced cards for the next week. Table is sorted by total appearances.


Green means more than half of their matches are on that day. Red means less than 10%. The averages are 32.4% of appearances on Sunday, 33.2% on Tuesday and 34.4% on Fridays (I wish there was a way to create a lot of pie graphs quickly.)

The five guys who haven’t appeared on Friday night shows: Genesis, Ramstein, Nosferatu, Zayco, Metatron. That’s who we would expect to see – fringe guys who are still booked a little.

Tuesday is the worst night to be on – bad payoffs to guys CMLL still uses but doesn’t have many plans (or they’d be on a better day.) It’s the night you want to be on the least, and you can tell by the names who get stuck on those shows at the highest rate of their matches: Génesis, Morphosis, Ramstein, Cholo, Zayco, Último Dragoncito, Olímpico, Pequeño Halcón, (poor) Sagrado, Fantasy, Robin, Pequeño Warrior, Pierrothito, Akuma, Zeuxis, Apocalipsis, Metatrón. Lots of minis, lots of opener people, and fringe Invasors. Meanwhile, Rush and Mistico have appeared rarely.

The person who has the highest percentage of matches on Friday nights is La Silueta. She’s had 17 matches, 12 on Friday, 2 on Sunday and 3 on Tuesday. Maybe she’s not around much because she’s busy on non-Fridays? Seductora is right behind her at 67% by virtue of having 1 more match, on a Sunday. The rest are more traditional top guys.

Magnus has had 3/4ths of his matches this year on Sundays. Camorra, Stigma, Signo and Metalico are high on that list due to their day of the week feuds.

Guerrero Maya has made the most appearances on Sunday (24), Delta has been on the most Tuesdays (24), and Rush (35) is the Friday night star.


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