Dark Silueta wins Gran Prix, Dave the Clown left sad/alone in Heroes Inmortales cage match, Lucha Brothers retain AAA tag titles as foretold on TNT

CMLL

CMLL (FRI) 10/08/2021 Arena México [CMLLEstrellas del RingFuria de TitanesKaiser Sports, Mas Lucha, R de RudoThe Gladiatores, thecubsfan]
1) Akuma, Espanto Jr., Okumura b Diamond, Magia Blanca, Magnus CMLL - DIAMOND - MAGIA BLANCA - MAGNUS VS AKUMA - ESPANTO JR. - OKUMURA / ARENA MÉXICO 8 DE OCTUBRE (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL | Akuma, Espanto Jr y Okumura derrotan a Diamond, Magia Blanca y Magnus (posted by Más Lucha) Viernes CMLL: Okumura, Akuma y Espanto Jr. Vs. Los Depredadores (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
7:39. Okumura won via cutter.
2) Gemelo Diablo I, Gemelo Diablo II, Sagrado b Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus CMLL - GEMELOS DIABLO I Y II - SAGRADO VS RAZIEL - CANCERBERO - VIRUS / ARENA MÉXICO 8 DE OCTUBRE (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL | El Sagrado y Gemelos Diablo vencen a Virus, Raziel y Cancerbero (posted by mluchatv) Viernes CMLL: Sagrado y Gemelos Diablo I y II Vs. Virus, Raziel y Cancerbero (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
13:30. Diablos took 1/3. No obvious trio challenges (though it did seem like Sagrado was meant to be teaming with these two going forward.)
3) Gran Guerrero, Templario, Último Guerrero b Místico, Titán, Volador Jr. Así de fácil, Guerrero desactiva La Mística (posted by Revista BOX Y LUCHA) CMLL - TITÁN - VOLADOR JR. - MÍSTICO VS LOS GUERREROS LAGUNEROS / ARENA MÉXICO 8 DE OCTUBRE (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL | Último Guerrero, Templario y Gran Guerrero vencen a Místico, Volador Jr y Titán (posted by mluchatv) Viernes CMLL: Místico, Volador y Titán Vs Último Guerrero, Gran Guerrero y Templario (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre)
13:59. Rudos took 1/3. UG blocked La Mistica twice in a row and pulled his mask to win.
4) Amapola, Dark Silueta, La Jarochita, Lluvia, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Reina Isis b Avispa Dorada, Dalys, Momo Kohgo, Sonya, Stephanie Vaquer, Tsukasa Fujimoto, Tsukushi [Gran Prix de Amazonas] CMLL - GRAND PRIX INTERNACIONAL DE AMAZONAS / ARENA MÉXICO 8 DE OCTUBRE (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL | ¡Dark Silueta es la ganadora del primer Grand Prix Femenil! (posted by Más Lucha) Eliminatoria Grand Prix Femenil 2021 (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre) Final Grand Prix de Amazonas del CMLL: Dark Silueta Vs Tsukasa Fujimoto (posted by La Tijera Lucha Libre) Grand Prix Femenil México vs Resto del Mundo. (posted by thegladiatores.com)
36:23. Order of eliminations: Amapola (Dalys), Vaquer (Sugehit), Avispa (Vaquerita), Sonya (Marcela), Isis (Dalys), Lluvia (Tsukushi), Kohgo (Silueta), Marcela (Dalys), Jarochita (Tsukushi), Dalys (Sugehit), Sugehit (Fujimoto), Tsukushi (Silueta), Fujimoto (Silueta) leaving Silueta as the first ever Gran Prix winner.

The Gran Prix is one thing modern CMLL does well. The build up and pre-match presentation make it feel like a very important deal. The fans were totally into a match with a lot of people they don’t normally care about (and didn’t really care nearly as much about a couple of weeks ago when they main evented the Aniversario show.) It was an imperfect match at times, but enough went well that they kept the crowd and there was a stong reaction for Silueta winning. That finish puts it over the previous women’s cibernetico for me, a good match though nothing you have to go back and watch.

The Gran Prix does seem to be a draw; attendence looked in the neighborhood of the 09/24 show. It looked like there were a few people in the upper deck as well; CMLL hasn’t sold tickets up there on Ticketmaster since the start of the pandemic. There are still seats blocked off but I know Mas Lucha mentioned the possiblity of Mexico City capactiy limits being increased and I wonder if that’s happened here.

The semi-main felt like everyone’s used to the finish coming after Ultimo Guerrero reverses La Mistico once, so they did it twice, only it made La Mistica look very ineffective. Titan was the best wrestler in the match as usual. Los Depreadores came out with Volador, disappeared after, and are losing in the first matches. It’s great they got to be a team but it doesn’t seem to mean anything. There’s nothing you need to see from this outside the main event.

The iPPV went off fine this time around, though there didn’t seem to much talk about it. The CMLL announcers said without saying that the 11/05 Dia del Muertos show will be the next one. It’ll probably be headlined by Terrible defending the Rey del Inframundo against someone winning a match on 10/29.

CMLL (SUN) 10/10/2021 Arena México [CMLL, ESTO]
1) El Gallito & Guapito b Chamuel & Mije
2) Grako, Inquisidor, Nitro b Halcón Suriano Jr., Oro Jr., Robin
Rudos took 2/3.
3) Guerrero Maya Jr., Kráneo, Volcano b Cancerbero, Hijo del Villano III, Okumura
tecnicos took 1/3
4) Dark Silueta, Princesa Sugehit, Reyna IsisMomo Kohgo, Tsukasa Fujimoto, Tsukushi [Relevos Increíbles]
Mexico took 1/3
5) Atlantis, Fugaz, Stuka Jr. DQ Euforia, Hechicero, Mephisto
Tecnicos took 2/3 (foul)

The main event was the first time the new Infernales teamed up after being put together on two and half weeks ago. It happened with no real notice. Mephisto hadn’t wrestled since September 14th, so something was up with him to prevent it until now. The team lost, though CMLL sold it as a moral victory.

Another Micros match without Microman. MicroMan hasn’t appeared in Arena Mexico since June 25. He did wrestle on the August 9th Arena Puebla return and wrestled an indie show the following weekend, but hasn’t been seen since.

CMLL (TUE) 10/12/2021 Arena México
1) Fantasy & Último Dragóncito vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia
2) Skadi, Stephanie Vaquer, Tiffany vs La Comandante, La Vaquerita, Metálica [Relevos Increíbles]
3) Eléctrico, Halcón Suriano Jr., Hombre Bala Jr. vs Akuma, El Coyote, Espanto Jr.
4) Dark Panther, Magia Blanca, Stuka Jr. vs Negro Casas, Raziel, Virus
5) Felino © vs Ángel de Oro [MEX LH]
1st defense

The main event is Felino as a rudo and Angel de Oro as a tecnico, but Angel de Oro is the guy you’re supposed to boo and Felino is the guy you’re supposed to cheer. I like Magia Blanca but these are pretty barren when Magia Blanca is suddenly a semi-main guy. The second match is Vaquer, Metalica and the women CMLL definitely wasn’t booking while the Ice Ribbon people were around.

CMLL (TUE) 10/12/2021 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Cosmos, El Divino, Micro vs Destello, Destructro, Thunder Boy
2) Joker, Rugido, Vaquero Jr. vs Bobby Black, Carlo Roggi, Fúnebre
3) Crixus, Explosivo, Fantástico, Star Black vs Ángel Rebelde (Querétaro), Halcón Negro Jr. (Querétaro), Optimus (Querétaro), Trono (Querétaro)
4) Bárbaro Cavernario, Demonio Maya, Principe Daniel vs Furia Roja, Guerrero de la Muerte, Ráfaga
5) Momo Kohgo, Tsukasa Fujimoto, Tsukushi vs Dark Silueta, Lluvia, Náutica
6) Satánico (c) vs Último Guerrero [FLLM MASTER]

Satanico defended this title over Blue Panther earlier this year. Ultimo Guerrero doesn’t go long without holding a title belt but I’m really not sure if he’ll win this one. The semimain appears to be the end of the trip for the Ice Ribbon crew.

CMLL announced its NFT launch will be on 10/22 while giving no useful information on what they’re actually offering. I did the NFT rant already. You should not spend any money on these unless you’re doing it on a lark.

Atlantis & Atlantis Jr. versus Ultimo Guerrero & Gran Guerrero headlined a show in San Luis Potosi last Saturday. The show appears to have drawn terribly. It’s one show, but CMLL wrestlers don’t seem to have much drawing power outside of Arena Mexico at the moment.

El Sol del Tlaxaca interviews new champion Templario, who talks about his career so far.

AAA 

AAA TV (SAT) 10/09/2021 Coliseo La Concordia, Orizaba, Veracruz [AAA, thecubsfan, Voices of Wrestling]
Heroes Inmortales, 2021
4) Pimpinela Escarlata b MambaKeyraSexy Star IIAerostarArgenisToxinVillano III Jr.Arez [Copa Antonio Pena]
15:12. Rules were four people were picked to start, could be replaced when they went out of the ring by anyone, and eliminations by pinfall, elimination or going over the top. (Toxin did an over the top rope dive, then came back in.) Nine names announced, poster advertised 12 people, it turned out to be the nine names. Order of elimination: Aerostar (by Super Fly after Parka Negra interference again), Argenis, Toxin, Arez, Villano III Jr. (after Octagon Jr. distraction), Keyra, Sexy Star 2, then Pimpinela beat Mamba to win. Mamna attacked Pimpinela after the win with Mr. Iguana made teh save.
5) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón b Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana
12:42. NGD beat Carta Brava clean with Catapult Dinamita. The two teams continued fighting after the finish.
6) Fénix & Pentagón Jr. © b Hijo Del Vikingo & Laredo Kid [AAA TAGFénix & Pentagón Jr. © vs Hijo Del Vikingo & Laredo Kid for the AAA World Tag Team Championship (posted by luchablogdos)
16:01. Factor Miedo on Vikingo. Dralistico & Dragon Lee appeared post match to tease fightning both teams.
7) DMT Azul, Puma King, Sam Adonis b Dave The Clown, Murder Clown, Psycho Clown [cage]
17:11. In a skit earlier, Puma & DMT attacked Monster Clown, leaving him unavailable for this match. Dave the Clown offered to take his place, was rejected, and ended up climbing in the cage anyway. He apparently counted as part of the team. Estrellita officially debuted as a member of La Empresa after only appearing backstage on the previous show. Order of escape: Psycho, Murder, Adonis, then DMT Azul & Puma King handcuffed Dave the Clown in the corner, unmasked him and climbed out. (AAA made effort not to shoot Dave’s unmasked faced, which was covered in blood and hair.)

I liked this show. The tag match was what I hoped it to be, better than any match at TripleMania and among the best matches of the year. The Copa Antonio Pena wasn’t any better than usual except it was half the time as usual. The last two matches were better than I guessed. It was nice for an AAA big show to be done in two hours (or relatively close to two hours.) I have a lot of complaints that’ll make it seem like I didn’t like the show but I did like the show I swear.

The tag title match was fifteen minutes of insanity that could’ve been stretched to twenty five. There was no real feeling out portion, they were just going full speed from the start – they could’ve easily spent six minutes getting to where they were in minute two if that makes any harder. It’s harder to build to bigger moments when you’re going so hard from the beginning, but they still managed to get some huge moments near the end. It definitely ended up among the best matches from Mexico of the year.

AEW essentially gave away the finish of the tag team match before it happened by saying Fenix & Penta would be defending the AAA titles next Saturday during Rampage. That show was more a week away, AEW could’ve easily said the same bit on Sunday or Wednesday or whenever. They definitely would’ve if it was NJPW, and probably would’ve if it was Impact or NWA. Fans in Mexico either saw it announced on Space or became very aware, especially since the match is against a masked tag team. I can’t believe AEW giving away an AAA finish isn’t a thing outside of the people who watch AAA, but it just tells you how really few people watch AAA and how little AAA is covered.

Vikingo/Laredo really should’ve won. They couldn’t, because AEW was getting the belts. AAA will do fine because they make their money on big shows and those are built around dream matches with outsiders. Maybe they’re confident they can keep that up for as long as they need to, but if they were ever going to flip Vikingo & Laredo from being the b-side of every “star rating” match on big shows and make them the stars on their own, that felt like the night to do it. It’s not the end of the world, it just feels like those guys are continually bumping their heads on a ceiling they can’t break. And probably won’t be able to break until they go somewhere else and do it.

Dragon Lee & Dralistico showing up on AAA to confront the Lucha Brothers on AEW on Saturday, as Andrade’s mystery surprise team. People thought that before Saturday to be honest. I still don’t think it’s happening, but I don’t know as a fact either way. I don’t think Saturday’s appearance changes it at all. AEW’s very clearly ignoring anything that happens in AAA, so the Hermanos Lee showing up in AAA is likely irrelevant – if it was going to be them already it’ll still be them, but these are definitely not two promotions working in harmony.

Tirantes was not as annoying here as on Mas Lucha Supremo, because he just screwed everyone rather than strangely picking like he did Thursday night. It’d be nice if AAA just didn’t use referees who have a gimmick of being terrible at their jobs to get themselves over, but I guess there are bigger issues. (On their radio show, Mas Lucha had no second thoughts about using Tirantes for their show, feeling people complain online but he was over in the building and that’s all that matters. That is a lot of Mexican wrestling promotion in a nutshell.)

Psycho Clown explained on Twitter that he didn’t trust Dave – figured he was just setting Psycho Circus up for a betrayal – and that’s why they rejected Dave. Psycho was impressed by Dave and hinted they may add him to the Psycho Circus team from now on.

It really doesn’t make any sense that Psycho Circus lost the match when Dave was the last guy left and specifically not in the match, but so it goes in AAA. It was an odd feeling for the last few minutes of the main event being built around making Dave the Clown look like a star, but it was likely a tradeoff to get him to do the unmasking bit for La Empresa heat at the end (and they did make Dave look better than he ever has.).

NGD showed more life than usual, though it might have been Poder del Norte bringing out of them. I was shocked that there was actually a clean finish. It didn’t feel like the end of the bit and I wonder if we’ll get the same the other way later.

The long term planning in AAA: last major show ends with Goya Kong turning heel, this show has Goya Kong effectively as a face helping Poder del Norte. She was used much less in the match than she has been involved on TV.

Copa Antonio Pena was changed to four people in the ring at a time, anyone can come in if someone goes out, and eliminations by over the top, pinfall, or submission. It was vastly confusing at first, including to some of the performers (Toxin smh) but it’s an idea they should stick with. The match was not much better than Copa TripleMania, they even did some of the same run-in spots as TripleMania to make it feel like a repeat, but the match went three minutes shorter, and the shorter it can go the better. The problem here wasn’t the dead periods and the overcrowded that’s an issue with the Royal Rumble style match, it was just execution. Toxin eliminated himself twice before getting pinned, there was a messed up three count, people didn’t seem to understand when they were supposed to get in. That stuff could get ironed out with more repetitions. Pimpinela didn’t really need the win but it doesn’t mean anything anyway so it’s fine.

By the way, it would’ve taken ten seconds for someone on social media to say “hey, we’ve moved the Lucha Brothers tag back to the semi-main” or “remember how we said there are 12 people in Copa Antonio Pena? We meant only 9” but very basic human interaction is not something AAA nor most Mexican wrestling companies are built to handle.

I’ve seen results for the non-televised portion but I’m not totally sure I’ve got them correct.  The one big angle that came out of it was the reveal of Psicosis II (Ripper) as the guy behind the text messages that put the Abismo Negro Jr., Arez, Latigo, Toxin, and Chik Tormenta group together and they’re now the Vipers. Psicosis is happy to be back in AAA. This has been in the works for most of the year. The angle was rumored to happen on TripleMania at one point, and that seems to check out because AAA was doing a lot of it until that point and didn’t do much after. The other rumor was this group were all going to get old Viper gimmicks – someone would be Histeria, someone would be Maniaco and whatever else – which doesn’t seem to have come through. Mining the past for a current idea can be useful, though I’m not sure what calling these guys the Vipers and sticking a guy who’s long past his better days is going to help. Mexican wrestling fans have longer memories than most, but the Vipers are also three or four eras of AAA ago now.

AAA announced Cain Velasquez would be returning. The on-screen graphic said “December” and that’s what AAA put on social media. The AAA announcers said “December 4th”, a Saturday. No location was named. No show name was mentioned. I’m not really sure what we can do with this information beyond pencil in that date for something, though they didn’t even say where you could watch it. That spot on the calendar was originally supposed to go to TripleMania Regia, a show in Monterrey’s baseball stadium. Veracruz lucha libre Facebook page Adictos al Ring report it’ll instead be back in Orizaba, the same venue as Heroes Inmortales. That site is plugged on the local scene and seems to be getting the information from the local promoters, so that’s as close to as confirmed as we can get without AAA saying something. Monterrey’s opening up capacity for shows slowly, while Orizaba seemed to be 100% open on Saturday. The building in Orizaba is much smaller, but the reliability to run a show without sudden changes may be more important right now.

Still, with AAA running this show in Orizaba, I’m now a lot less sure Kenny Omega is coming back to AAA in December. Look at the card so far

  • Cain Velasquez returns
  • probably some big blow off with La Empresa
  • probably something with Lucha Brothers/Hermanos Lee/Vikingo & Laredo
  • probably some gimmick match with NGD/Poder del Norte
  • maybe Deonna Purrazzo returns (seems more likely than Omega since she sent in a promo)

That’s enough for a 6,000 capacity bullring. Really, it might have been enough for 22,000 capacity Monterrey. It’s always possible AAA could run a second major show elsewhere in December and Omega could show up on that. Or they could just load up Orizaba. But an Omega title defense has gone from a definite to a maybe.

Next week, AAA’s TV show moves to a different time because AAA is airing live at 7 instead. Couldn’t tell you when, AAA didn’t think it was important to mention. Space’s listings suggest AAA’s airing at 5 pm, though that can change between now and Saturday. I can tell you the three other matches from Orizaba will air, but AAA did not communicate that at all. They’re not a TV company, they’re just a live events company that puts shows on TV.

(AAA getting pushed out of its timeslot on its own channel by AEW after AEW gave away the result of a PPV-level match feels like it is a bigger story. But we’ve already gone too deep on this show.)

AAA is taping today in Xalapa; they’re back to no fans for these shows. Xalapa should air on 10/22 and 10/29. AAA will just need one more weekend of tapings to cover November and they’ll be good through Unnamed December 4th Show That’s Probably TripleMania Regia.

Histeria seems annoyed Psicosis II didn’t tell him he was reforming the Vipers.

Random fact that didn’t click to me until being frequently reminded about Antonio Pena passing away 15 years ago: the Roldan family has now run AAA longer than Pena did. Pena was in charge for 14 years and some days; the collective Roldans surpassed them in days in chargeback in March.

Other News

The Crash (FRI) 10/08/2021 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California [TJ Sports, Zona Ruda]
1) Terror Azteca, Torito Negro, Toto b Kamik-C, Próximo, Skalibur
the two teams asked for one more match
2) Black Danger, Dinámico, Súper Beast b Aramis, Destiny, Funny Bone
Funny Bone and Super Beast were added to the match
3) Christi Jaynes & Deonna Purrazzo b Faby Apache & Sexy Star II
4) Hijo Del Vikingo b Rey HorusDemonic FlamitaRich Swann
Best Match of the night.
5) Masada & Moose b Pagano & Psycho Clown and Bestia 666 & Mecha Wolf
Results describe this as a six way though it was advertised as a tag match. (Masada won, not sure if Moose also won.) Set up for a Pagano/Masada match for the 11/05 Aniversario show.

Good to learn the next 11/05 date. I will never mention a The Crash poster on Twitter again, not because I have anything against the promotion, but I’m tired of answering the same thing about video again. Answering that question is actually the thing that makes me hate The Crash more.

Dralistico wrestled on the Sunday Arena Neza show, explaining he hadn’t been wrestling because his CMLL contract didn’t allow him to wrestle for three months. I think this is Dralistico pretending he has a WWE style 90 day non-compete, but Dralistico left CMLL two months ago and has since wrestled in Queretaro. Dralistico just doesn’t seem to have a lot of interest. The Munoz Familiy got in a backstage fight with La Empresa to tease future matches. The Neza show, with the Munoz versus the Wagner family, looked to have drawn badly on the Mas Lucha stream. Drawing in Arena Neza is rough for anyone, but I wish it caused a reality check in what kind of stars the Hermanos Lee tag actually are in Mexico. Those two guys are 100% beating Hijo del Vikingo & Laredo Kid if that match happens because they’re convinced promoters and their friends they’re big money, but they haven’t convinced the people who actually buy the tickets.

IWRG (SUN) 10/10/2021 Arena Naucalpan [Mas Lucha]
1) Cheff Benito & Sol b Kenji & Shalom IWRG a beneficio de la Cruz Roja de Naucalpan (posted by Más Lucha)
2) Hell Boy & X-Devil b Garra Mortal & Limbo IWRG a beneficio de la Cruz Roja de Naucalpan (posted by Más Lucha)
3) Dick Angelo 3G & Puma de Oro b Legendario & Noicy Boy IWRG a beneficio de la Cruz Roja de Naucalpan (posted by Más Lucha)
4) Gran Pandemónium, Hijo De Pandemónium, Pandemónium Jr. b Akbar, Mexica, Rey Quetzal IWRG a beneficio de la Cruz Roja de Naucalpan (posted by Más Lucha)
5) Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro b Big Boy, Big Chico Che, Big Mike [EdM Trios, torneo] IWRG a beneficio de la Cruz Roja de Naucalpan (posted by Más Lucha)
restart of this tournament. Medico Brujo cost the Strippers the match.
6) Hijo del Alebrije & Toxin b Hijo del Espectro Jr. & Hijo del Fishman and Medico Brujo & Sick Boy and Halloween Jr. & Hijo del Pirata Morgan IWRG a beneficio de la Cruz Roja de Naucalpan (posted by Más Lucha)

I have no notes on this show.

IWRG (TUE) 10/12/2021 Arena Naucalpan
1) Blue Win & Súper Cometa vs Carnicero & Perseo
2) Karma I & Karma II vs Chef Benito & Gran Felipe
3) Sagitarius & Therius vs Amazonika & Mary Caporal
4) Noicy Boy, Sol, Spider Fly vs Big Boy, Big Mike, Rey Halcón
5) Hijo Del Payaso Pura Santa, Manchas, Payaso Pura Santa Jr. vs Aster Boy, Caballero de Plata, Hell Boy

I’m not sure why IWRG is running this many shows but they sure are. Main event spills out of the Mas Lucha four way tag match. I believe the Payaso Purasantas are some of the better WTMB guys but your opinion may differ. The semimain has the Mexa Boys versus Big Mike and so crazy things will probably happen.

Ricardo Yañez of Quintana Roo won the IWRG “Decide Tu” fan books the show contest. IWRG says over 200 people set in lineups. There were supposed to be 2nd and 3rd place winners, which have not yet been announced. IWRG says they’ll announce the card (and I guess the date) at a press event on Tuesday’s show, as well as talking about their Castillo del Terror show. That’s a specific public appeal for press to come to the show, which IWRG doesn’t normally do – normally that’s more of a Whatsapp group thing.

Lucha Libre Vanguardia says they’re returning on 10/31. They haven’t run standalone shows since July due to pandemic restrictions in Hidalgo. They’ll be running Arena Aficion, the most well known Pachuca arena but not the place Vangaurida usually runs shows.

ROH this week has Bandido & Rey Horus versus the OGK; you can see it on their website now. The LFI vs Shane Taylor Enterprises match from the most recent PPV will go up on ROH’s YouTube channel tomorrow; that was better than we all though it was going ot be.

Blue Demon Jr. told ESTO that he’s now looking for a family member to carry on the family name. Blue Demon Jr. actually brought a teenager in a Blue Demon mask to the AAA events around the 2019 TripleMania to balance out Dr. Wagner Jr. bringing his sons, but that person was never explained or referenced again. It may have just been someone handy to play the role. Demon gives no hints of who might carry it on, and it just seems more like an idea that’s popped in his head, not something you should expect imminently. Demon does note his father wrestled for 42 years and he’s wrestled for 37, which seems like a strong hint he’ll be around through 2026. The bulk of the interview is more of the normal Demon myth-building rather than the successor,

WWE’s Angel Garza wrote a post critical of Zona 23 and Ciclope, though he makes it clear he doesn’t want to give him any attention by using his name. Ciclope did a spot with a syringe injected near each eye and Garza thought it was a horribly unsafe bit.

ESTO has an interview with Relampago about his career.

RIOT says their next show will be on 11/27. No location was announced.

Milenio talks to Ciclon Ramirez Jr. about his barbershop, which is part of Bandido’s Gym. Ramirez was cutting hair himself but turned out to be bad at it and now just manages the place.

Segunda Caida writes about some 1995 CMLL.

Infobae interviews ex-Titanes en el Ring luchador Adrian Vazquez, who now reancts midevil battles.

10 thoughts to “Dark Silueta wins Gran Prix, Dave the Clown left sad/alone in Heroes Inmortales cage match, Lucha Brothers retain AAA tag titles as foretold on TNT”

  1. Has Silueta gotten better in the last couple years to merit the push she has seemingly gotten recently? Or is just they needed someone younger to push, to contrast with Marcela, Amapola and Dalys?

  2. I don’t think Vikingo taking all the pins is really going to hurt him as long as people are still sharing gifs of all his cool flips after his matches. The next big move forward for him will be whenever his visa comes through and he can start working in the US, and nobody interested in booking him outside Mexico is tracking his win/loss record in AAA.

  3. I wish I could answer Mark’s question with confidence, but the fact is CMLL hadn’t given a carajo about Silueta for years. Prior to this push, the last big matches that I can think of with Silueta involved Zeuxis, so…yeah, a long time has passed! I feel like she used to be more agile, but again, time has passed, I’d have to look at her older matches again.

    She was in that seemingly eternal trios match cycle for 2015-2017, iirc, then got pregnant around 2018 (hence the full year of no matches), so it has been quite a ride for her in recent years. From forgotten babyface to main eventing in Arena Mexico multiple times, and getting this big moment. Feels nice tbh, my guess prior to the event was that Jarochita or Sugehit were going to get the win.

    I’ll say this for sure, she nailed the aesthetics of the Dark Silueta character.

  4. I think Silueta has gotten better this run and the heel turn has worked, but I think it’s also they’re consciously looking for new women to push – Jarochita/Lluvia as the tag champs, Isis as the national champ.

    I don’t think the people outside of Mexico care if Vikingo wins or loses – based on how Saturdays’ show wasn’t covered almost anywhere, I suspect most people don’t even he had a match, much less lost it – but I think it’d be great if AAA treated made Vikingo a top star in Mexico themselves, rather than only having it happen if/when he goes elsewhere to do it and hoping they can get him to come back to Mexico after, like Fenix & Penta.

  5. Silueta & Jarochita were the only two luchadoras to be real public about #SpeakingOut type stuff (before #SpeakingOut was a thing in wrestling). Not saying that’s why they are where they are but you can’t tell their true stories without bringing that up.

    Vikingo will probably end up like a Bandido type. More respected outside Mexico than in Mexico. Konnan had access to Bandido for years & the only times he got on AAA TV was random second matches or cluster multi-mans. Now for almost a year Konnan has been asking Bandido to come in for special matches and it’s like… dude… you had access to this dude before anyone & treated him like a secondary talent. Just wait till Vikingo is working all the US indies or even doing AEW stuff & watch how he gets treated in AAA. Konnan has been a step behind on identifying new talent for a while now & Vikingo is just the next in a line of guys.

  6. I did hear about the story that made the rounds during that period where Silueta briefly went independent in 2019, but I never heard anything like that with Jarochita.

  7. that was a pretty good showing for Dave The Clown. Like, unironically. I’ve been fond of shitposting about Dave The Clown for years but that was an interesting change of pace for him to be so important to the main event, and it worked well enough.
    Whatever happened to the rest of Clown Corp?

  8. Jarochita (& Lady Marvilla?) were the two who accused Copetes Salazar of stuff when they were in AAA. It may have been around the time both ended up in ELITE for a time period. I just remember Konnan discussing it on his podcast when he was still out of AAA & saying Marisela knew about what Copetes was doing but turned a blind eye. Christina Von Eerie also backed up their story.

  9. Posted: “It’ll probably be headlined by Terrible defending the Rey del Inframundo”. Granted, I haven’t followed CMLL much since COVID, but wasn’t Cuatrero the last RdI? If so, how did Terrible get it?

  10. It was a COVID thing. Cuatrero missed last year’s shows, Terrible beat Euforia for the vacant title. I totally forget until I stumbled upon it a few weeks ago.

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