lucha TV preview for weekend of November 8th, 2019

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There are 9 different lucha TV shows or streams you could watch in the next week. Though the two CMLL Sunday shows fit with the additional TV shows I don’t list here, just showing matches that are already available in some other format.

AAA Twitch returns Saturday night at 8 pm. Poder del Norte versus Flamita, Octagon and Vikingo sounds fun. Torreon to Monterrey is an easy 4 hour drive, so maybe they’ll be pushing the TripleMania Regia tickets.

Volador returns to CMLL on Friday, which should return to Marca’s YouTube. I hope he got to keep the Liger hat.

great match roundup, week of 2019-10-19

Fenix

recaps

Five shows in seven days is the only thing that makes me ok that Lucha Underground doesn’t exist.

AAA has a show where five of the seven matches were stuff I’d say is worth watching. It is unclear if that has every happened before. (I think I meant to rate the Copa Antonio Pena ‘great’, or I’ve changed my mind now.) There were also some CMLL shows.

All 2019 round-up posts2019 MOTYC list

Recommended Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
excellent Fénix © vs Kenny Omega for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship KENNY OMEGA VS FÉNIX | Lucha por el MEGACAMPEONATO en HÉROES INMORTALES XIII (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Twitch: 2019-10-19 2019-10-19
great Aerostar vs Hijo Del VikingoMurder ClownIron KidParka NegraDave The ClownMonsther ClownTritónLa HiedraFaby ApacheLa Parka Negra for the Copa Antonio Pena  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2019-10-19 2019-10-19
good Draztick Boy, Lady Shani, Octagoncito, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Australian Suicide, Demus, Mamba, Vanilla  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2019-10-19 2019-10-19
good Lady Maravilla & Villano III Jr. © vs Keyra & Látigo and Big Mami & Niño Hamburguesa for the AAA World Mixed Tag Team Championship  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2019-10-19 2019-10-19
good Drago © vs Daga for the AAA Latin American Championship  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2019-10-19 2019-10-19
good Arez vs DinastíaMocho Cota Jr. Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa) Lucha Capital: 2019-10-23 2019-10-23
good Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Súper Astro Jr. vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus CANCERBERO, RAZIEL Y VIRUS vs BLACK PANTHER, BLUE PANTHER JR Y SÚPER ASTRO JR (10-25-2019) (posted by HVSLuchaLibre) LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 25 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-10-25 2019-10-25
good Atlantis Jr. vs Templario in a lightning match EL TEMPLARIO vs ATLANTIS JR (Match Relámpago 10-25-2019) (posted by HVSLuchaLibre) LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 25 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-10-25 2019-10-25

Other Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Dinastía, Octagón Jr., Puma King vs Abismo Negro Jr., Arez, Súper Fly  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2019-10-19 2019-10-19
ok Psycho Clown & Rey Escorpión vs Averno & Dr. Wagner Jr. and Pentagón Jr. & Texano Jr. and Chessman & Pagano in a relevos increíbles match and in a cage match  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2019-10-19 2019-10-19
ok Asturiano, Star Jr., Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Akuma, El Perverso, Espanto Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 21 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-10-21 2019-10-21
ok Carístico, Místico, Valiente vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 21 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-10-21 2019-10-21
ok Kaligua & Shockercito vs Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 22 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-10-22 2019-10-22
ok Blue Panther, Drone, Rey Cometa vs Dark Magic, Okumura, Universo 2000 Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 22 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-10-22 2019-10-22
ok Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Tiger in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 22 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-10-22 2019-10-22
ok El Audaz, Kráneo, Volcano vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Pólvora LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 22 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-10-22 2019-10-22
ok Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr. vs Felino, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 22 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-10-22 2019-10-22
ok La Hiedra vs Faby ApacheLady Maravilla Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa) Lucha Capital: 2019-10-23 2019-10-23
ok Puma King vs TaurusSúper Fly Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa) Lucha Capital: 2019-10-23 2019-10-23
ok Magia Blanca & Príncipe Diamante vs El Coyote & Grako LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 25 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-10-25 2019-10-25
ok Hechicero, Rey Bucanero, Terrible vs Dulce Gardenia, Flyer, Stuka Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 25 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) TERRIBLE, REY BUCANERO Y HECHICERO vs FLYER, DULCE GARDENIA Y STUKA JR (10-25-2019) (posted by HVSLuchaLibre) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-10-25 2019-10-25
ok Soberano Jr., Star Jr., Valiente vs Cavernario, Gilbert el Boricua, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 25 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) VALIENTE, STAR JR Y SOBERANO JR vs ÚLTIMO GUERRERO, BÁRBARO CAVERNARIO Y GILBERT (10-25-2019) (posted by HVSLuchaLibre) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-10-25 2019-10-25
ok Carístico, Diamante Azul, Místico vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 25 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) NEGRO CASAS, GRAN GUERRERO Y EUFORIA vs MÍSTICO, CARÍSTICO Y DIAMANTE AZUL (10-25-2019) (posted by HVSLuchaLibre) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2019-10-25 2019-10-25
below average Kráneo, Stigma, Volcano vs Luciferno, Máscara Año 2000, Vangellys LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 21 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-10-21 2019-10-21
below average Dave The Clown vs Tito SantanaHijo Del Vikingo Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa) Lucha Capital: 2019-10-23 2019-10-23
not rated Atlantis, Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Mr. Niebla LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 21 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-10-21 2019-10-21
not rated Oro Jr., Retro, Robin vs Disturbio, Hijo del Signo, Inquisidor LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 22 DE OCTUBRE DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2019-10-22 2019-10-22
watch later Drone vs Guerrero Maya Jr. in a lightning match Drone vs Guerrero Maya Jr. in a lightning match (posted by thecubsfan) GUERRERO MAYA JR vs DRONE (Match Ralámpago 10-13-2019) (posted by ) CMLL on TV Mexiquense: 2019-10-20 2019-10-13

 

TripleMania Regia, Lucha Capital, Kawato runs but no longer champ

Octagon tornillo

AAA , CAPITAL (WED) 11/06/2019 Pinche Gringo Barbecue, Miguel Hidalgo, Distrito Federal [AAA, Lucha Central, thecubsfan]
1) Máximo b Tito SantanaDinastía Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa)
11:50. Maximo pinned Santana
2) Faby Apache b KeyraAyako Hamada Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa)
8:52. Faby Apache sit down powerbomb Keyra.
3) Rich Swann b ArgenisDave The Clown Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa)
9:36. Swann phoenix splash Dave the Clown.
4) Puma King b Octagón Jr.Drago Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa)
9:29. Puma King press powerbomb Octagon Jr.

The main event was the best match on the show. The women’s match was the most disappointing. Hijo del Vikingo, Taurus and other interesting people are still to wrestle in the next two weeks. There may be a bonus third week of random matches. Still, it wouldn’t be a terrible idea to just check on the series until they got to the later rounds, or entirely. This season’s Lucha Capital shows are bad, there’s good matches, but they haven’t found some magic solution to a tournament of all three way matches. It fits with the CMLL b-shows – there’s stuff to keep track of, but it doesn’t feel especially compelling in a world of so many options unless you just have to watch everything.

AAA announced the full AAA TripleMania Regia card

AAA TV (SUN) 12/01/2019 Estadio de Béisbol Monterrey, Monterrey, Nuevo Leon
1) Big Mami, Dinastía, Máscarita Dorada, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Casandro, Dave The Clown, Demus, Lady Maravilla
2) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana vs Hijo de LA Park, Hijo del Volador, LA Park Jr.
3) Taurus & Villano III Jr. vs Aramis & Hijo Del Vikingo vs Cage & Puma King vs Bandido & Flamita
4) Taya, Faby ApacheAyako HamadaKeyraLady Shani [Reina De Reinas]
5) 1 vs 23456789101112 [Copa TripleMania]
6) Kenny Omega © vs Dragón Lee (Munoz) [AAA HEAVY]
1st defense
7) Pagano vs LA Park vs Rush
8) Psycho Clown, Rey EscorpiónTexano Jr.ChessmanBlue Demon Jr.Dr. Wagner Jr.AerostarMonsther Clown [cage, hair, mask]

That’s a significantly better card that I was expecting. It’s not exactly a TripleMania – the cage match seems to be there to obscure the Monster Clown/Aerostar finish AAA heavily teased and that’s not something AAA would do at TripleMania – but it’s pretty much as close as they can get. Multimedios and the local sponsors must be kicking in a fair bit of money to make this work.

Rush & Dragon Lee are notable additions. Neither is signed full time, just work per-date. Rush has been rumored to come to AAA for years and gets in with his old rival. Pagano is there to follow up on TripleMania and to make sure it’s not simply an outsider vs outsider match. Dragon Lee is more of a surprise, and in a match that immediately gained a lot of attention. It’s a new match, it’s an exciting match, and you can even talk yourself into believing Dragon Lee if you really try.

Everyone seemed to be very excited to see this show in my Twitter replies. They will not be able to see it live. Dorian Roldan said the show will not be streamed live and repeated that later when asked by the press. (It made it a little strange, having a press conference in Mexico City for an event that will only be seen live in Monterrey.) It will air later in some form. It may air in Multimedios first since they appear to be a sponsor of the show. AAA obviously wants to sell tickets here – both Roldan and the baseball stadium owner mentioned plans to make this an annual event if this is successful in year one – but there still is a large audience of people who would probably give money to AAA if they didn’t have to get on a plane to do it.

It could be that whatever deal with Mutlimedios prohibits them from streaming it live, though AAA could restrict Mexican fans from being able to see the show as they did with InvadingNY. It is possible that Bandido & Rush’s deals prohibit them from appearing on a competing iPPV service, though there still seems to be enough interest in TripleMania Regia to air it with those matches blacked out. The reason most lucha libre promoters have stated for not airing a show live (or at all) is fear the possibility of streaming will keep people from buying tickets, so maybe there will be a change in policy if enough tickets are sold. On this week’s podcast, Konnan mentioned tickets were selling well for TripleMania Regia once they were put on sale, the local promoters were happy with how it was doing. Everyone will get to see this show in TV form eventually. Persistent people will be able to see live if they’re willing to hop between different YouTube, Facebook and Periscope sites. It’s just a barrier AAA’s putting up between their product and their fans.

Konnan, on his podcast, also talked about the MLW/AAA relationship. As assumed, that is the end of the MLW/The Crash relationship. MLW may tape more TV in Tijuana but it will be with AAA (& EMW). “Maybe” dual-branded shows, though no details. At the press conference, Dorian Roldan mentioned AAA’s relationships with AEW, Impact and MLW, so all three still seem alive.

CMLL revealed Kawato San was back in CMLL – said to have suffered a right knee injury and returned to Japan so he could better communicate with the doctors while healing – but also CMLL had decided to have him vacate the championship. Kawato had gone four months without defending the championship, but four months is no especially long period of time in CMLL. Fredo guessed CMLL may just be moving Kawato up in weight classes and I think that’s a good guess. There’s no word to when the title might be decided. CMLL has also not talked about the CMLL Welterweight Championship since Dragon Lee left. CMLL having a reason to do all of this would be positive but isn’t certain.

In other irrelevant CMLL championship news, a new CMLL Japan Women’s Championship will be decided on 01/22. It’ll be Dalys versus a Japanese winner of a tournament, the participants to be decided. This effectively replaces the CMLL-REINA championship and that set of titles are done. The CMLL/REINA relationship is done, the partnership with magazine Lady’s Ring replacing it. REINA had barely run shows the last few years, with the CMLL women mostly being booked out to other promotions while in Japan.

Dalys wins everything, so she seems likely to win this new championship as well. It seems possible CMLL will just never get around to doing Marcela/Dalys (or Dalys will even lose that match!) if Dalys is likely to get another belt.

CMLL’s news article on Terrible in NJPW’s World Tag League avoids mentioning the word Ingobernables at all. That’s the entire reason he’s teaming with Shingo. Rush seems like he’s going to keep using that name and CMLL doesn’t seem to be exercising a right to it.

The Guadalajara cards have returned to normal locals-only shows, so any Hechicero/Satanico payoff is down the road.

El Rey officially announced InvadingNY airing on the channel on Sunday.

LuchaTalk has a new episode.

Lineups

CMLL (MON) 11/11/2019 Arena Puebla
1) Black Tiger, Policeman, Sombra Diabólika vs Fuerza Chicana, Guerrero Espacial, Rencor
2) La Jarochita, Lluvia, Shoko Nakajima vs La Comandante, Metálica, Reyna Isis
3) Drone, Dulce Gardenia, Stigma vs Felino, Pólvora, Tiger
4) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

Guerreros versus sorta-Sky Team in the maine vent.

CMLL (TUE) 11/12/2019 Arena México
1) Angelito & Shockercito vs Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Metatrón, Oro Jr., Súper Astro Jr. vs Akuma, Grako, Nitro
3) Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Fuego vs Dark Magic, Disturbio, Pólvora
4) Esfinge vs Vangellys [lightning]
5) Blue Panther, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Felino, Rey Bucanero, Terrible
6) Carístico, Titán, Valiente vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Templario

Star Jr./Templario was just a bit to get thru the night with no idea where they were going. Same as most of CMLL.

CMLL Martes: 2019-10-22

nope

Recapped: 10/22/2019

Matches:

Kaligua & Shockercito beat Pequeño Universo 2000 & Pequeño Violencia
(4:57 shown, 2/3, n/r,
00:00:00)

Disturbio, Hijo del Signo, Inquisidor beat Oro Jr., Retro, Robin
(13:50 [8:03, 2:28, 3:19] , 1/3, ok,
00:07:08)

Blue Panther, Drone, Rey Cometa beat Dark Magic, Okumura, Universo 2000 Jr.
(14:18 [5:14, 2:16, 6:48], 1/3, ok,
00:29:55)

Tiger beat Guerrero Maya Jr. in a lightning match
(7:11, casita, ok,
00:54:05)

El Audaz, Kráneo, Volcano beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Pólvora
(13:45 [7:46, 5:59], 1/2 DQ, ok,
01:06:55)

Felino, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero beat Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr.
(13:13 [4:31, 6:07, 2:35], 2/3, ok,
01:30:10)

What happened:

Rey Bucanero signaled for a title match after defeating Stuka. Announcers thought Stuka was welterweight champion.

The stream with the opener already going for the second straight week. They didn’t pick up until the last minute of the second fall. The ring announcer announced the win in the third fall as Violencia was still being counted out.

Thoughts:

great evasiveness

The Stuka/Bucanero feud came out of nowhere coming into the show, though it was the central focus of this match. None of the interactions seemed particularly exciting though they did steal the finish right out of Hechicero’s playbook. Negro Casas being charismatic and the fans interacting with the Chavez were more memorable than this match.

Perhaps the best part of semi-main was the announcers deciding to randomly imitate Polvora’s deep voice after the finish. Audaz did some Audaz things and has decent chemistry with his apparent new rival, though there are better matches to see Audaz of late. The rest of the guys did about the usual.

Guerrero Maya and Tiger had a solid lightning match with some big spots. It was lacking a bit of intensity, perhaps in part because everyone was distracted by Pompin’s increasingly slow counts. The superplex looked painful on the Arena Mexico mat and Tiger faking a handshake of respect was nice but I expected more out of both guys.

Blue Panther matches seem to use every trick to get a reaction. They broke out the star, they did pointless stage dives, Okumura teased a martinete for some reason. It seems cheap at times but they at least get the crowd to care. Black Magic got lost in the third fall, not being in the right place for Drone’s dive (so he didn’t do it) and being confused with Cometa near the end. Still, this was the best match on the show.

The segunda had a couple of good moves, one bad rebound headscissors spot, and some slow dives. Novel to see dives in the second match, but they were dives showcasing why they don’t dive often. Inquisidor breaking out a headscissors looked better.