CMLL Martes: 2019-09-03

only Audaz would see this as the best line of attack

Recapped: 09/09/2019


Acero & Aéreo beat Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Olímpico
(13:12 [5:04, 4:28, 3:40], 1/3, n/r,

Espanto Jr., Hijo del Signo, Nitro beat Eléctrico, Halcón Suriano Jr., Oro Jr.
(12:53 [5:55, 3:03, 3:55], 1/3, n/r,

Black Panther, Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr. beat Dark Magic, Misterioso, Vangellys
(14:21 [5:07, 2:50, 6:24], 1/3, ok,

Pólvora beat Guerrero Maya Jr. in a lightning match
(6:31, Super Polvora Driver, ok,

Atlantis, Audaz, Flyer beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(11:00 [3:59, 3:04, 3:57], 2/3, ok,

Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. beat Cavernario, Cuatrero, Terrible
(10:36 [1:32, 2:51, 6:13], 2/3 DQ, ok,

What happened:

Cavernario fouled Volador for the DQ as part of the build to the hair match to be announced the next day.


Oro Jr. and a good camera angle

The main event was the most enjoyable match of the night, the tecnicos getting the crowd to react well running their offense. It seemed like the usual formula might not work when the Chavez brothers were loudly booed on corner dropkicks. The crowd was more favorable to the showcases in the third fall. The DQ wasn’t great but they have headed there all match and it was leading to the next day’s announcement.

The end of the second fall was dismal, with Flyer’s timing off and Atlantis moving like a 70-year-old man. The rest is not as bad but not many highlights. Atlantis turning into a lesser version of La Parka is not really the way anyone wanted to see him go.

Guerrero Maya Jr. was one of the most creative CMLL luchadors. What happened in the lightning match was instead a pretty standard match of a few of his simpler high spots leading to taking Polvora’s finish. It was a simple match.

A match where everyone seemed to be in the right place but no one seemed all that excited about it. Dark Magic stuck out as so set in getting in the right spot (which he was as far as I could) that he was unaware an audience was watching. A lot going on.


Heroes Inmortales lineup, Independence Day results, Volador/Cavernario tonight

a lot of good action yesterday and somehow I ended up with a GIF of Skadi doing a spear?

CMLL (MON) 09/16/2019 Arena Puebla [CMLL]
1) Ares, Black Tiger, Policeman b Hijo de Centella Roja, Meyer, Tigre Rojo Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
16:38. Rudos took 2/3. Hijo de Centella Roja’s first match here since February.
2) Lluvia, Sanely, Skadi b Amapola, La Metálica, Tiffany LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
19:57. Tecnicas took fall 1, rudas took falls 2, Metalica & Lluvia ended fall three on a double pin. They fought post match.
3) Dulce Gardenia, Rey Cometa, Stigma b Okumura, Olímpico, Perverso LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:31. Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Atlantis, Atlantis Jr., Flyer b Hijo del Villano III, Templario, Vangellys LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
9:43. Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Soberano Jr. b Carístico, Místico, Terrible [Relevos IncreíblesLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 16 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2019 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
10:07. Team Casas took 1/3, with Casas sneaking a foul in on Caristico. Caristico wanted a singles match next week.

This was on three hours earlier, so I waited for it to be over and then watched it. That wasn’t a good idea. The Mexico City edecanes dance numbers were the only extra effort on the show.

Lluvia/Metalica seems to be coming soon. The main event feud has gone from Dragon Lee/Volador to Terrible/Casas to Caristico/Casas, so I’m not entirely sure that singles match is happening next week.

IWRG (MON) 09/16/2019 Arena Naucalpan
1) Biosfera & Príncipe Jr. b Acero II & Águila Oriental LUCHA LIBRE IWRG (posted by Internetv Deportes)
2) Especie Maligna, Voltar, Voltex b Ángel Dorado I, Galactus, Spider Fly LUCHA LIBRE IWRG (posted by Internetv Deportes)
3) Canival, Carnicero, Güero Palma b Ángel Estrella Jr., Dinámico, Noise Boy LUCHA LIBRE IWRG (posted by Internetv Deportes)
4) Adrenalina, Canibal Jr., Dragón Fly, Guerrero Olímpico, Hip Hop Man, Historico, Marado, Voraz b Atomic Star, Auzter, Cheff Benito, Chicanito, Death Metal, Puma de Oro, Rey Halcón, Shalom [Torneo FILL 85] LUCHA LIBRE IWRG (posted by Internetv Deportes)
IWRG (Black Terry) vs Argentino (La Mosca). Shalom replaced Mexica. Hip Hop Man was the mystery man on the Argentina side, making his return from injury.
5) Fresero Jr. & Mr. Iguana b Demonio Infernal & Warrior Jr. LUCHA LIBRE IWRG (posted by Internetv Deportes)
Warrior Jr. replaced Eterno (AAA)
6) Cerebro Negro, Fly Warrior, Hijo de Canis Lupus b Aramis, Imposible, Relámpago LUCHA LIBRE IWRG (posted by Internetv Deportes)
7) Dragón Bane © b Toxin [IWRG REY DEL AIRE] LUCHA LIBRE IWRG (posted by Internetv Deportes)
6th defense

Sounded like this was a pretty good if very long show, though the main event didn’t go well.

Klandestino (MON) 09/16/2019 Arena Lopez Mateos [Estrellas del Ring]
1) Fandango & Multifacetico b Chilango & Mr. Pachuco Multifacetico y Fandango vs Mr. Pachuco y Chilango en la Arena López Mateos (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
2) Alas de Oro, Alas De Plata, Centella Oriental, Mexica b Cometa, Leviatham, Sádico, Yoruba Alas de Oro y Plata, Mexica y Centella Oriental vs Yoruba, Sádico, Levathan y Cometa. (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Klandestino Patriótico desde la Arena López Mateos, AULL (posted by +LuchaTV)
Cometa replaced Impulso
3) Aeroboy, Trauma I, Trauma II b Emperador Azteca, Multifacetico, Último Legendario Aeroboy y los Traumas I y II vs Emperador Azteca, Multifacetico y Ultimo Legendario. (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Klandestino Patriótico desde la Arena López Mateos, AULL (posted by mluchatv)
Multifacetico replaced Imposible.
4) Hijo de LA Park, LA Park, Rey Fénix (Indie) DDQ Bárbaro Cavernario, Dragón Lee (CMLL), La Bestia Del Ring Klandestino Patriótico desde la Arena López Mateos, AULL (posted by mluchatv) Psycho Clown, Penta 0M y Fénix vs L.A Park, Hijo de L.A Park y L.A Park Jr (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
double DQ when Fenix & Dragon Lee pulled each other’s mask. They kept brawling afterwards.
5) Rush b LA Park and Penta 0M Klandestino Patriótico desde la Arena López Mateos, AULL (posted by mluchatv) Rush vs L.A Park vs Penta 0M desde la Arena López Mateos (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
Rush pinned Penta after a foul.

Arena Lopez Mateos has had frightful crowds on Sundays with locals. They still can draw well when they bring in names (which I guess says something about the names on the Sunday cards, or just running on Sunday in general.) The building looks packed for this one. Fenix & Dragon Lee keep doing things in their matches as if they’re building up a feud and then also giving the impression they’d like to not wrestle each other again. Fenix was harsh towards Dragon Lee in a post-match interview.

AAA (MON) 09/16/2019 Arena Neza [+LuchaTV]
1) Rey Caballero & Shaman Jr. b Laberinto & Príncipe Neza Rey Caballero y Shaman Jr vs Laberinto y Príncipe Neza en la Arena Neza. (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
2) Tiger Boy & Villano III Jr. b Dinastía & Eclipse Jr. Villano III Jr y Tiger Boy vs Eclipse Jr y Dinastía en la Arena Neza (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
3) Faby Apache & Lady Shani b Keyra & Lady Maravilla Keyra y Lady Maravilla vs Faby Apache y Lady Shani en la Arena Neza con Producciones Sánchez. (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
Keyra’s return from injury (ankle) after two months
4) Neza Kid Jr. & Neza Kid Sr. DQ Dinamic Black & Súper Nova Super Nova y Dinamick Black vs Neza Kid y Neza Kid Jr en la Arena Neza (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
Dinamic Black replaced John Tito. Nova tossed his mask to draw the DQ.
5) Carta Brava, Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana b Aerostar, Australian Suicide, Niño Hamburguesa Aerostar, Niño Hamburguesa y Australian Suicide vs Carta Brava, Tito Santana y Mocho Cota Jr (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
Australian Suicide replaced Myzteziz
6) La Parka, Máximo, Octagón Jr. b Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown Octágon Jr, Máximo y la Parka vs Murder Clown, Monster Clown y Dave the Clown (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
Octagon Jr. was the mystery wrestler
7) Hijo de LA Park, LA Park, LA Park Jr. DQ Fénix, Pentagón Jr., Psycho Clown Psycho Clown, Penta 0M y Fénix vs L.A Park, Hijo de L.A Park y L.A Park Jr (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
LA Park tossed his mask to Psycho

Seemed like a strong turnout out here as well. It is strange in retrospect that there was hope for Keyra to return in time for TripleMania when she’s just now stepping back into the ring a month later. Octagon Jr. is probably going to be surprise luchador a lot for the next month.

CMLL tonight has Volador/Cavernario in Arena Mexico. Volador & Cavernario have had a lot of good matches against each other, even if they tend to be the same match until the last minute or two. Volador did not have a strong match with Dragon Lee in his last high profile long-form singles match, though he did better playing a heel against Negro Casas. Not sure how they’ll end up playing it here. It is a Tuesday show, so maybe expectations should be kept in check.

This is an overall better Tuesday show than usual though. NGD took Audaz, Soberano and Stuka in the semi-main. The Panthers & Maya take on the midcard rudo squad of Misterioso, Sagrado, and Tiger. The full Cancerberos team up for the first time this year in Arena Mexico against Drone, Fuego and Star Jr. The show opens with a minis trios and a prelim tag match (where Yago exists again.) The show streams at the normal time of 7:30 pm.

Guadalajara tonight has Ultimo Guerrero vs Dragon Lee and Metalica vs La Jarochita for the Mexican Women’s championship. Metalica already getting into a feud with Lluvia tips the decision there. We probably won’t see it unless a fan takes their own video. Maybe less of a chance to see the whole thing, since I’ll be traveling and hoping the recording I set up works.

CMLL acknowledged Shoko Nakajima will be coming to the promotion soon.

Rayo, Dante Caballero and Brain Johnson from Ring of Honor’s Future of Honor developmental promotion have been announced for DTU in October.

Halcon Blanco took La Krisys’ hair in Arena Aficion.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania.


CMLL (SUN) 09/22/2019 Arena México
1) Arkalis & Bengala vs Apocalipsis & Príncipe Odín Jr.
2) La Guerrera, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Amapola, La Infernal, La Seductora
3) Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Rey Cometa vs Dark Magic, Universo 2000 Jr., Vangellys
4) Stuka Jr. vs Luciferno [lightning]
5) Soberano Jr., Titán, Valiente vs Ephesto, Mr. Niebla, Templario
6) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón vs Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Niebla Roja

Princesa Sugehit suffered what was reported as a concussion on June 1st, so this would be her return. There has been three Bengalas in the time that CMLL has had one Bengala, though I think AAA’s got more out of theirs.

CMLL (SUN) 09/22/2019 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Cosmos & Fantástico vs Frenético & Thunder Boy
2) El Divino & Mágico vs Demonio Maya & Demonio Rojo
3) Fugaz, Johnny Dinamo, Luminoso vs Exterminador, Furia Roja, Guerrero de la Muerte
4) Neutrón & Rayman vs Gran Kenut & León Blanco
5) Gallo, Javier Cruz Jr., Leo, Omar Brunetti vs Joker, Maléfico, Sádico, Satánico

More people from the indies filing in here, as well as Satanico making an appearance. I guess Satanico could be the guy in charge here now, but I really don’t know.

MDA (SUN) 10/06/2019 Arena Naucalpan
1) Blue Monsther, Legendario, Tempo vs Dick Angelo, Magnético, Raven
2) Chef Benito & Chicanito vs Mexica & Neza Kid
3) Demasiado & Yawy vs Alas de Oro & Alas De Plata
4) Hijo De Dos Caras vs Demonio Infernal
5) Aramis & Imposible vs Fly Warrior & Puma de Oro
6) El Divo & Sádico vs Trauma I & Trauma II
7) Carístico & Dragón Lee vs Dragón Bane & Hijo de Canis Lupus

Naucalpan’s busy summer continues into the fall. They’ve already got a Mexico vs the World themed show for Sunday, and an ELITE show for two days prior to this one. Caristico & Dragon Lee vs Dragon Bane & Canis Lupus should be interesting if maybe not smooth. Match 5 may outperform it.

AAA TV (SAT) 10/19/2019 Coliseo La Concordia, Orizaba, Veracruz
Heroes Inmortales XIII
1) Argenis, Lady Shani, Octagoncito, Pimpinela Escarlata vs Australian Suicide, Demus, Mamba, Vanilla
2) Lady Maravilla & Villano III Jr. © vs Chik Tormenta & Látigo and Big Mami & Niño Hamburguesa
3) Drago © vs Daga [AAA LA]
4) Dinastía, Octagón Jr., Puma King vs Abismo Negro Jr., Arez, Súper Fly
5) Aerostar vs Laredo KidMurder ClownMyzteziz Jr.Dragón BaneDave The ClownMonsther Clown?La HiedraFaby ApacheLa Parka Negra [Copa Antonio Pena]
6) Fénix © vs Kenny Omega [AAA HEAVY]
7) Psycho Clown & Rey Escorpión vs Averno & Dr. Wagner Jr. and Pentagón Jr. & Texano Jr. and Chessman & Pagano [Relevos Increíbles, cage]

AAA hasn’t officially announced this card, though it’s being advertised locally (as 100% Confirmed.)

The main event looks like Blue Demon was busy that day. (He’s on the original poster.) I’m not sure how a relevos increibles match inside of a cage actually works. This seems like something that could set up Escorpion/Psycho or Chessman/Pagano to close out the year.

Fenix vs Kenny Omega is indeed on. This seemed like a tough match to put together when it was announced at TripleMania. Now that Omega is seemingly doing a losing streak book, maybe a finish isn’t so tough after all.

Figure on the mystery person(s?) in the Copa Antonio Pena to be more prelim guys in new gear. You may recall AAA trying that in last year’s match with Black Danger (Espectro) and Ultimo Maldito (Kahoz), and then quickly walking it all back.

My theories on why Daga won AAA Cruiserweight title shot in New York and now is challenging for the Latin American title

  • Laredo Kid was supposed to be in that match defending his title, they just changed it to a #1 contenders match without thinking about it when he was replaced (and Aerostar or Puma were meant to be in Chris Dickinson’s spot)
  • they just forgot which title Drago has

It’s strange to go from Big Mami/Nino Hamburguesa/Lady Maravilla stuff on almost every TV taping to nothing with those three together but they’re still getting a title shot. It does fit just keeping the stories in place in between each big show.

I would bet on the Octaogncito being a new Octagoncito. The last one is probably still Mini Rey Misterio and Konnan had said more minis would be debuting soon.

Note that this is a week after the Los Angeles show, where zero matches have been announced as of yet. It would be for the best to announce something while people are still talking about AAA at all, though perhaps waiting until the show airs on AXS on Friday might be the idea; time. Or, they’ll just not announce anything at all.

CMLL Puebla: 2019-09-02

Astro doing good

Recapped: 09/05/2019


Astro & Sonic beat Joker & Sombra Diabólika
(12:51 [6:16, 1:33, 5:02], 1/3, ok,

Arkalis & King Jaguar beat El Malayo & Fuerza Chicana
(10:31 [5:53, 1:53, 2:45], 2/3, n/r,

Drone, Fuego, Toro Bill Jr. beat Perverso, Stigma, Universo 2000 Jr. in a relevos increíbles match
(12:34 [5:50, 2:51, 3:53], 2/3, ok,

Mecha Wolf 450 & Templario beat Audaz & Titán
(15:31, good, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Volador Jr. beat Dragón Lee, Terrible, Valiente in a relevos increíbles match
(7:24 [3:11, 4:13], 1/2 DQ, ok,

Euforia & Gran Guerrero © beat Ángel de Oro & Niebla Roja for the CMLL World Tag Team Championship
(15:32 [4:55, 3:27, 7:10], 2/3, good,

What happened:

Volador pulled off Dragon Lee’s mask and pinned him in the second fall. Dragon Lee asked for a rematch.


2 for 1

I wish the Guerreros switched their finishes around in this one. It would’ve been more interesting if they had used the new hold in the third fall instead of ending this title match exactly how they ended the previous one between these two teams. The action was slightly better the first time and fresher; both teams put in a good effort but they didn’t really build on the first one as tour the match for a different fanbase. CMLL is for the live crowd so concerns about repeating is not such a concern. This was still good fun but I’m not sure you need to see both matches.

The Volador/Dragon Lee sequences were good enough to suck me in for a rematch, but the whole match wasn’t very much. They did work hard fro the time they went.

The random midcard tag match was notable for being a 2v2 one fall match where none is usually done, and there was good action as long as it went. It felt like it peaked in the opening exchanged and the rudos struggled to stay on the same page while in control. MechaWolf has generally done well in CMLL but something wasn’t fitting together right here. The other guys contributed but the Audaz/Templario sections were so good as to really wish they’d been able to have the scheduled singles match or at least finish this one out.

Audaz & Titan

The relevos increibles aspect of the tercera really didn’t add anything to the quality of the match. Toro Bill was better as a tecnico than Stigma was as a rudo but neither really affected the quality of the average midcard match. Maybe it helped them be less bored but it didn’t really translate into anything memorable.

Astro’s been looking good in the openers and this was probably the best he’s been so far. He was getting big air and pulling off some nicely complicated stuff. I think Joker is one of the better local rudos and that helped, though Sombra Diabolika is more of a struggle. Sonic worked well alongside him and this seemed like the closest to a good opening match as possible in Arena Puebla.