AAA in Puebla results, new Octagon/Abismo/Bengala, MDA

probably not Triton

AAA TV (SUN) 09/08/2019 Gimnasio Miguel Hidalgo, Puebla, Puebla [AAA, Lucha Central, thecubsfan]
1) Chik Tormenta, Low Rider, Toxin b Aramis, Draztick Boy, La Parkita  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
10:00. Toxin replaced Latigo (China). Tormenta beat Parkita with a powerbomb.
2) Bengala, Dinastía, Eclipse b Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
9:43. The newest version of Begnala was the surprise wrestler. Mocha Cota frog splashes Eclipse.
3) Big Mami, Lady Shani, Octagon Jr. b Abismo Negro Jr., La Hiedra, Villano III Jr.  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
13:13. Debuts of Abismo Negro Jr. and the third Octagon Jr., with Octagon beating Abismo.
4) Ortiz (LAX) & Santana (LAX) b Laredo Kid & Myzteziz Jr. and Arez & Daga  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
11:00. Myzteziz Jr. replaced Hijo del Vikingo (still in cast). Earlier, Vikingo appeared to express his disappointment about being unable to wrestle in front of his hometown fans. Averno confronted him to reissue his trios title challenge then attacked Vikingo. Myzteziz & Parka made the save, only for Argenis to attack them with a chair and unmask Myzteziz. Argenis declared only his family has the rights to that mask. Argenis attacked Myzteziz again after this match, giving him a martinete.
5) Averno, Chessman, Texano Jr. b Aerostar, Murder Clown, Niño Hamburguesa  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
15:21. Texano pinned Murder Clown after a mask pull and a distracted by La Hiedra
6) Drago, Psycho Clown, Taya b Ayako Hamada, Blue Demon Jr., Rey Escorpión  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
16:41. Psycho Clown pinned Rey Escorpion with a torito after Dr. Wagner Jr. attacked Blue Demon, hitting him in the hand with a hammer.

It was a generally good show. The undercard was easily watchable, the main event wasn’t strong but Wagner did hammer a man’s hand. There was nothing must watch on it and it wasn’t the most crucial show. The OGTs are maybe getting a trios title shot, but that was set up already. Argenis may be feuding with Myzteziz but I don’t believe in Argenis feuds until they actually exist. LAX winning is sort of a build to the tag title match next but it wasn’t really treated that way on screen.

As would be expected, most of the talk about the show was about the “new” characters. The identities weren’t hard to figure out, and the reaction wasn’t much of a surprise. AAA sees these as roles people play, roles that they own and have invested in and want to stay an active part of their world. Calling Abismo Negro “Jr.” is the acknowledgment that it’s a new character, but this is part of the deal with AAA. If the promotion goes on long enough, there will one day be a Drago Jr., or a Lady Shani Jr., or even a Psycho Clown Jr.

Of course it’s not just AAA who does it. It’s the rejection of Mistico (II) as a character that makes wonder if it’s ever going to be a successful idea in today’s environment. AAA did pull off this replacement idea with La Parka Jr. and their success with that choice can be held up as proof it’ll work for others. It does seem more like one exception in a world of forgettable retreads and where hardcore fans are more knowledgeable and more willing to reject replacements, as they have with Mistico. La Parka has worked but it’s on example against a lot more AAA characters who were never as successful as those people who they replaced (like the second Psicosis) or had runs that have been completely forgotten (Ludxor & Venum).

Pentagon Jr. may be another exception of a AAA putting someone in an old gimmick and it very much working out on him. It’s arguable though; not much of what he became had to do with the Pentagon character, except for the martial arts aspect playing into his perfect personality vignette on Lucha Underground. Penta did end up an international star at the end, and that’s why those people who’ve taken on the new characters are making the same decision. I have no idea if was stated or just implied, but Octagon Jr.’s post-match interview about this being the moment to become an international star hints at the bargain made. Taking on the Octagon Jr. gimmick, given the history of that character specifically, is a big load. It’s one a Mexican wrestler might taken on if they were promised a bigger focus in AAA and the same chances to go internationally as Penta & Fenix got.

People are angry about Octagon Jr. coming back but at least they have a strong feeling about it. Bringing back the Bengala gimmick seems a particularly odd pick. Abismo Negro was a big star in AAA, Octagon was a big star and that seems wrapped up in a legal fight. Bengala, with both Ricky Marvin and Super Nova, topped out in the midcard. Though Bengala Nova hasn’t been on Twitch since January, it still feels like the gimmick needed to sit on a closet for a lot longer, because it’ll pigeonhole the new guy in the same spot.

Abismo Negro Jr. attempting to disguise his voice for his interview was fun. A daughter of Abismo Negro wrote on Facebook to make it clear Abismo Negro Jr. isn’t a family member. She isn’t happy about it though she doesn’t believe there’s anything they can do about it. She also says Abismo Negro designed the outfit. AAA’s side has always been that they came up with it.

I have no idea where these changes leave the trios titles. Octagon Jr. did not have a trios title last night, while Golden Magic definitely did in his Impact appearance taped a couple of weeks ago. It is strange Golden Magic was added to the Jinetes del Aire if he wasn’t going to be Golden Magic much longer, and that points to how quickly this was all probably decided. (In other words, AAA probably hadn’t figured out how they were handling the trios titles either last night, even as they were setting up a title match for them.)

The other big change from last night’s show was the music. Entrance music was changed for Psycho Clown, Drago, Los Mercenarios, Laredo Kid. Others, like Blue Demon & Dr. Wagner Jr., did not have their music changed. Widespread music change usually means some big scale music rights issues. AAA has always used real songs, which would not fly in the US but hasn’t seemed to be much of an issue for CMLL or AAA in Mexico. AAA was aware it was a problem outside of Mexico, replacing all music with a generic song on their YouTube channel for the last couple of years. It may have been a situation AAA was going to have to deal with on the US shows, but there wasn’t any urgency to make a change in Puebla. A lot of the new music was personalized, not the generic music they’ve been using on YouTube. That leaves open the possibility this was AAA deciding they wanted to own their own music, just like they owned the gimmick, rather than something forced on it. It’s a hard adjustment in many cases.

A photographer for Milenio was attacked by guards outside the Puebla show. It seems like they prevented him from getting into the building, he recorded it on his camera, and then they attacked him when he refused to delete it. I’d assume the guards work for the venue and not AAA, but it’s still something that gets connected back to AAA.

AAA announced Kenny Omega’s challenge against Fenix for the AAA Mega Championship would take place on 11/17 in Orizaba at Heroes Inmortales. A Daga/Drago match was also mentioned by the announcers though I’m not sure if that was definite.

The New York show was lightly promoted as well, with no real big push for it on Spanish commentary (but it sounded like there was more in English.) La Parka’s column, which seems partly fictional, has him writing it while waiting for his US visa. Cain Velasquez is going on an MMA show of note to promote the show. He seems like the only person who’s been out to promote the show so far.

It seemed odd that Super Fly, who is from Puebla, was left off this show. It turns out he’s in Colombia doing press for the AAA tour.

There are advertisements out for an AAA TV taping on 11/17 in Ciudad Juarez, which matches a date mentioned previously by +LuchaTV. The remaining unconfirmed tapings are 11/09 in Torreon, 11/30 in Veracruz and 12/14 in Ciudad Madero.

An AAA show in Tuxlta Guiterrez, Chiapas on Saturday drew 2,200, which looked to be a sell out.

Items besides AAA

MDA (SUN) 09/08/2019 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV]
1) Chef Benito & Chicanito b Mexica & Neza Kid and Celestial Boy & Shadow Boy and Shalom & Spider Fly [Copa MDA] Cheff Benito-Chicanito vs Neza Kid-Mexica vs Celestial Boy-Shadow Boy vs Shalom-Spider Fly (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
2) Fly Warrior, Iron Kid, Puma de Oro b Alas de Oro, Alas De Plata, Tromba Alas de Oro, Alas de Plata y Tromba vs Fly Warrior, Puma de Oro e Irón Kid con MDA 4 (posted by Estrellas del Ring) MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by mluchatv)
3) Astral b Freelance Astral vs Freelance mano a mano en la Arena Naucalpan con MDA 4 (posted by Estrellas del Ring) MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by mluchatv)
4) Imposible & Sádico b El Divo & Hijo de Canis Lupus Imposible y el Hijo de Canis Lupus vs el Divo y Sádico en la Arena Naucalpan con MDA (posted by Estrellas del Ring) MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by mluchatv)
teams switched around
5) Aeroboy b Dragón Bane Aeroboy vs Dragón Bane mano a mano en la Arena Naucalpan con MDA 4 (posted by Estrellas del Ring) MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by mluchatv)
Jack Evans was briefly listed in this match. Argenis ended up in AAA instead.
6) Penta 0M & Rey Fénix (LU) © b Jack Evans & Pagano [HOG TAG] MD4niversario, Arena Naucalpan (8 Septiembre 2019) (posted by +LuchaTV) Penta OM y Rey Fénix vs Pagano y Jack Evans Campeonatos de Parejas HOG en MDA 4 (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
Dr. Wagner was briefly announced, then replaced by Jack Evans hours later.

A lot of matches were said to be good and nothing great here instead. The main event wasn’t much but the turnout was pretty good.

CMLL’s Arena Puebla show has Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas & Volador Jr. against Dragon Lee, Terrible, and Valiente, a rematch from last week. Volador & Dragon Lee were feuding last week, though plenty of teases to matches have ended up elsewhere in Puebla this year. Atlantis is wrestling, for some reason, with Flyer & Titan against Hechicero, Templario, and Vangellys. The Panther brothers & Kraneo take on Hijo del Villano III, Universo 2000 Jr. and Mascara 2000 (also for some reason.) The Costa Rica luchadors from CWE return for a couple of shows, starting tonight against Drone, Fuego and Guerrero Maya.  The opener is an all locals affair. This streams at 9:00 pm on YouTube.

+LuchaTV has an interview with Hijo del Silver King from his debut, where he says he’s going to give people a lot to talk about. That’s proved to be accurate.

A stream of Soberano Jr. playing video games.


AAA , EMW (FRI) 09/27/2019 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Rayo Star vs Jake AtlasFantastickDouglas JamesDrakeGriffSatana
2) Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana, Último Maldito vs Arandú, Arkángel Divino, TJ Boy, Xtasis
3) Australian Suicide, Steve Pain, Villano III Jr. vs Hijo de Canis Lupus, Kamik-C, Skalibur
4) La Hiedra, Myzteziz Jr., Toxin vs Black Boy, Lady Lee, Mirage
5) Averno, Daga, Súper Fly vs Genio del Aire, Jonathan, Tony Casanova
6) Pagano vs Nicho el Millionario

This is the AAA vs indie themed show, which also seems to be dealing with less big names than usual.

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