UG remains champ (and Aniversaro remains cloudy), Dalys advances, Forastero/Volador, AAA on Twitch tonight

a good Skadi moment

CMLL (FRI) 08/09/2019 Arena México [CMLL, ESTOLucha CentralThe Gladiatoresthecubsfan]
1) Magnus & Oro Jr. b Nitro & Sangre Azteca LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 9 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:54. Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Atlantis Jr., Dulce Gardenia, Titán b Ephesto, Mephisto, Okumura LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 9 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:19. Tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Dalys b LluviaSiluetaLa ComandanteMystiqueStephanie VaquerLa JarochitaSkadiReina IsisLa Magnifica [CMLL Universal de Amazonas, semifinalLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 9 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
24:27. Order of elimination: Comandante (Skadi), Vaquer (Jarochita), Mystique (Magnifica), Skadi (Lluvia), Silueta (Isis), Magnifica (Jarochita), Lluvia (Dalys), Isis (Jarochita), Jarochita (Dalys)
4) Cuatrero, Negro Casas, Sansón b Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Valiente LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 9 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:15. Tecnicos took 1/3.
7:51. UG took falls 2/3, the last when he was fouled but fell on Ciber as he was faking a foul. fourth defense
6) Euforia, Forastero, Gran Guerrero b Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee, Volador Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 9 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
6:08. Straight falls, the last when Forastero pinned Volador after a foul (and the referee failed to avoid seeing it.)

CMLL promos: Dalys talked about her win, Forastero is going for the championship, Ciber wants another shot at his title.

Press room interviews: Forastero declared he’ll erase all of Volador’s title reigns, Sanson & Cuatrero say Forastero will prove they’re just as dangerous as individuals, Dalys is already looking past Metalica to the title match with Marcela, and Ciber talks about his match.

This show wasn’t much better than last week. The segunda was a rare CMLL Friday night match of late that I liked, but there was plenty I didn’t. Besides the match quality, everything feels inevitable in an unpleasing way. Volador’s probably going to beat Forastero in an overly familiar underwhelming match. Dalys is probably going to be Metalica and then Marcela for the women’s championship soon. Ultimo Guerrero is probably going to win Ciber’s hair at the Aniversario show. None of these are things I’m anticipating.

It’s at least worth noting Ciber didn’t seem into the hair match yet. Maybe they’re slow-playing this story out, maybe he’ll suddenly agree next week, but they sent people home thinking maybe the match is happening instead of definitely the match is happening. It’s just that, unless CMLL’s doing Forastero/Volador (!?!) or something else outside the box, there’s no alternative match being hinted at.

Mystique broke her left clavicle taking La Magnifica’s Gory Bomb during the cibernetico according to her Twitter. She was getting medical attention after getting pinned but it wasn’t immediately obvious how bad it was. She’s scheduled to be on Monday’s Arena Puebla show but will obviously be out for a while.

I think it is interesting CMLL used green for the new Campeona Universal de las Amazonas belt. I probably would’ve just gone with the same belt as the men. The green makes it feel like a WBC boxing belt.

Caristico, Soberano, and Stuka defeated Hechicero, Templario and Barbaro Cavernario last night in ROH’s match in Toronto. The match was at the upper level of expectations, a match just to have a spectacle with no specific direction. (The only hint of a direction was including Silas Young on commentary. It might be setting up a match for the upcoming ROH/CMLL tour or it is otherwise an inexplicable decision to include a grumpy character talking about a fun match.) The big news on the show was Rush emerging as the next challenger Matt Taven and ROH’s main title. It seemed like that was a slow story being saved for ROH’s Final Battle show in December, but it is instead reported as taking place in Las Vegas, which would be the 09/27 show instead.

(This has the feel of reminding the teacher to assign homework but – what happened to Kenny King coming to CMLL in August? CMLL’s still not mentioned him and we’ve got cards thru half the month.)

AAA has its second and last August show tonight in Saltillo. The Twitch stream start time is now 8:45 CT. (The original poster had 7. Things changed.) The long gap between shows might mean this is just a standalone show of rehashing TripleManai with not a lot of going forward. That still might be fine.

Dr. Wagner & Blue Demon rematch in the main event, teaming with Fenix, Psycho Clown, Rey Escorpion and Taurus. There may also be a brick. Wagner is likely to get some revenge to keep this feud going. Laredo Kid, who’s been great in all of his singles matches, faces Puma King in the semi-main. Willie Mack makes his first AAA TV appearance since 2013 (and the canceled 2015 Guerra de Titanes show), alongside Aerostar & Drago against the OGTs. The new Jinetes face Dave the Clown, Monsther Clown and Parka Negra, who we haven’t seen much the last few months. Poder del Norte get Nino Hamburguesa, Argenis and a to be announced wrestler. Villano III Jr., Australian Suicide and La Hiedra face Dinastia, Eclispe and Lady Shani in the opener; AAA is overrunning with rudos when those guys are the opening match.

The matches probably won’t start until after 9, so this’ll be a late one. I’d recommend the VOD, except this is the wrong time to get it unless you want to go back to TripleMania. The next show is nearly a month away and a long time after that until another one.

Nothing really notable on the AAA vs ELITE show in Zumpango last night but there are results if you’re needing them.

Other shows on Saturday

  • MexaWrestling has Summer Course with Flamita vs Hechicero, assuming Hechicero makes it back from Toronto (and Arena Coliseo) in time. Toxin takes on Black Terry among other multi-man matches.
  • An Aguascalientes show with LA Park vs Ciber vs Diamante Azul vs Mesias is listed as airing on +LuchaTV, I can’t recall seeing any more than highlights from Aguascalientes so maybe that’s what this is.
  • CMLL has a regular Arena Coliseo show
  • Gym Hercules has a Psycho Wrestler show with Negro Casas vs Diva Salvaje.
  • Dragon Lee is wrestling in San Diego.


Fenix is announced for a 5 pm show in Arena Lopez Mateos on September 16th. It’s him and the LA Park kids versus Dragon Lee, Bestia del Ring, and Barbaro Cavernario. Two shows for Fenix just seems like the start of things.

An interview with Cuatula’s Cheroke Rockstar. His family convinced him to retire after winning an extreme match, he later attended a show as a fan, someone no-showed and they talked him into coming back as a replacement.


Lucha Libre Vanguardia (SUN) 09/01/2019 Centro de Alto Rendimento The Crash, Ecatepec, Estado de México
1) Caballero De Atena, Falcón Fire, Gasparin, Lobo Blanco vs ?, Calibus, Memo Romero, Shere Khan
2) Dayami & Lluvia vs Pumara & Tiffany
3) Jimmy vs Aramis
4) Audaz (CMLL) & Negro Casas vs Aero Boy & Draztick Boy
5) Flamita vs El Bandido

This is no longer being called Dragon Gate Mexico, with them borrowing the name of the new Hidalgo promotion instead. I’m excited for this one. Flamita & Bandido is always good. Aero & Draztick as a team are a good counterpoint to Audaz & Casas. (I think it weirdly might be a better match US style tag than Mexico, though not sure if it’d work for the crowd.) Jimmy versus Aramis is exactly a match I want to see, to see if the work Jimmy’s put in for Dragon Gate can pay off back home. It’s got the +LuchaTV logo and I hope we get to see the top matches relatively soon.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-08-09

my thoughts exactly

Recapped: 08/09/2019


Magnus & Oro Jr. beat Nitro & Sangre Azteca
(12:54 [6:48, 3:08, 2:58], 2/3, below average, 00:00:00)

Atlantis Jr., Dulce Gardenia, Titán beat Ephesto, Mephisto, Okumura
(13:19 [3:27, 4:33, 5:19], 1/3, good, 00:20:36)

The dumb battle royal went 3:47

Dalys beat Lluvia, Silueta, La Comandante, Mystique, Stephanie Vaquer, La Jarochita, Skadi, Reina Isis, La Magnifica in the CMLL Universal de Amazonas semifinal
(24:27, ok, 00:44:10)

  • 09:38 Skadi middle rope dropkick La Comandante
  • 11:17 Jarochita faceslam Vaquer
  • 13:32 Magnifica Vertabreaker Mystique
  • 15:52 Lluvia corner dropkick Skadi
  • 19:03 Reina Isis frontcracker Silueta
  • 19:55 La Jarochita Gory Bomb La Magnifica
  • 21:13 Dalys swinging slam Lluvia
  • 24:03 La Jarochita tapita Reina Isis
  • 24:27 Dalys spinning crucifix powerbomb La Jarochita

Cuatrero, Negro Casas, Sansón beat Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Valiente
(11:15 [3:13, 3:09, 4:53], 1/3, ok, 01:20:30)

Último Guerrero © beat Ciber the Main Man to retain the CMLL World Heavyweight Championship
(7:51, 2/3, below average, 01:42:37)

  1. Ciber spear (2:15)
  2. Ultimo Guerrero Pulpo Guerrero (1:23)
  3. Ultimo Guerrero pin (4:13)

Euforia, Forastero, Gran Guerrero beat Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee, Volador Jr.
(6:08 [3:03, 3:05], 1/2, below average, 02:03:34)

What happened:


Forastero fouled Volador to beat him, the third straight week Forastero has cheated Volador. Volador wanted a singles match to settle it, but Forastero insisted on putting the NWA Welterweight Championship on the line.

(The referee forgot to turn around in time to avoid seeing the foul, leaving a finish so bad the announcers were laughing about it.)

The semi-main finish was just as a laughable. Ciber fouled UG and immediately faked a foul. UG fell forward, landing on Ciber. This somehow left Ciber unable to kickout and Ultimo Guerrero retained the heavyweight championship. Ultimo Guerrero again pressed for a hair match while Ciber wanted a title rematch.

Dalys unsurprisingly advanced to face La Metalica in the CMLL Universal de Amazons final. The new belt, with a different design than the men’s belt, was presented.

The rudos attacked the tecnicos after the second match for no particular reason.


a tornillo

The CMLL rut continues. Only the second match was something really worth the time. The top two matches were not good with poor finishes. The crowd was disinterested in much of the show, making for a poor atmosphere for a less than stellar show.

Some match was going to get shorted on time due to the women’s cibernetico going very long. I didn’t guess it would be the main event. Euforia & Gran Guerrero brought back some of their teamwork, the tecnicos did their dives, and they got to the finish. This finish would’ve been the worst in some time if not for the prior match being even worse. This one at least was intended to be better, but they didn’t have a referee who could handle turning away at the right time.

Ciber and Ultimo Guerrero was the same lacking match it is every other time. They haven’t figured out a way to make it work (and it doesn’t appear they care to do so.) They got no crowd reaction but there weren’t many crowd reactions to be had so I guess they can’t be blamed. This still this in no way feels like a big feud. Ciber probably hurt himself more by not taking Ultimo Guerrero’s superbomb right. He tried to protect himself and it backfired. The finish was ludicrous, something that would be considered absurd if done in AAA or WWE.

Atlantis Jr.

Of the two undercard trios matches, I preferred the segunda. Dulce Gardenia & Atlantis Jr. are fresher than most of the luchadors. The rudos worked hard, and the entire crew did the best job of engaging the crowd all night. The Angel de Oro led trios match was technically fine but more forgettable. The Dinamtias clearly enjoyed getting to team with Casas, but it never developed into much.

The women’s cibernetico wasn’t really any much better than last week and maybe hurt more by the inevitably of the outcome. La Magnifica was the closest thing to an Avispa Dorada like performance, surprisingly getting an elimination and should be back, but that alone wasn’t enough to make the match worthwhile. A lot of the women, especially Jarochita & Lluvia late in the match, seemed helpfully enthused to have such a big moment. The skills to have a good match just weren’t all there. The announcers try to praise Skadi as having a breakout performance; she did hit a great clothesline on Mystique but looked clumsily by the end. Silueta got to do her Spanish Fly, which seemed a lot more than Vaquer got to do.

Magnus promised the craziest performance ever in the opener. Magnus then had a very normal match. Perhaps Magnus should’ve looked at who he was facing first, or perhaps Magnus thinks he did have a crazy match and we’re all lost. This was a little worse opener than usual because the rudos were very dedicated to doing nothing for about two falls.

this isn’t going to end well