CMLL Mexico: 2019-07-30

flying Guerrero

Recapped: 08/01/2019


Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico beat Acero & Aéreo
(15:10 [6:26, 3:40, 5:04], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Dalys, La Comandante, Reyna Isis beat La Jarochita, Lluvia, Skadi
(12:55 [6:27, 3:06, 3:22], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Blue Panther Jr. beat Misterioso Jr. in a lightning match
(7:37, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Dulce Gardenia, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Okumura, Universo 2000 Jr., Vangellys
(12:31 [3:53, 4:19, 4:19], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Atlantis, Audaz, Flyer beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(11:24 [4:43, 2:41, 4:00], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Euforia & Gran Guerrero © beat Ángel de Oro & Niebla Roja for the CMLL World Tag Team Championship
(16:54 [5:05, 3:39, 8:10], 2/3, great, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Panther spear

Euforia & Gran Guerrero kept the tag team titles.

Guerrero Maya tries and fails to kick out of Okumura’s cutter at the end of the match. It seems like a planned bit but everyone’s so used to the referees blowing the finishes that they default to thinking it happened again for a moment.


Los Guerreros looked like the best team in CMLL in the competition to decide the best team in CMLL. Good thing they won! The Chavez did their usual stuff in but didn’t step it up as much as the rudos, who apparently had a bunch of cool moves they were saving for a decent opponent. This one lacked a dramatic final stage, but it has a cool inventive finish. Hope CMLL keeps feeding more challenges to Euforia & Gran Guerrero to see what else they break out.

There was a point where Atlantis had to be beaten up near the ropes because he needed something to hold onto and couldn’t afford to fall down. They work over his leg every match to explain his limp. This is crazy and needs to come to end. I don’t think Atlantis should be in the ring at all at this point, but certainly not on a Tuesday semi-main where he’s not even teaming with his son. I don’t know what it’s going to take for someone to say this is enough, and I hope it’s more time than the situation getting worse. If you’re going to watch the semi-main at all, skip ahead to the third fall where they give Flyer and Audaz sometime to do anything instead of building around a Mephisto/Atlantis feud.


The Maya trios fell into the usual professional midcard range. Guerrero Maya & Fuego need something to do break them out of being third match robots but they were fine here. The crowd was into Dulce again and he seems fresher given who else was teaming with. Vangellys worked with him surprising well. Universo’s double knee finish where both knees go on opposite does of the head has to go.

Blue Panther Jr. was very dedicated to producing a legdrop that didn’t look effective and achieved that goal. Not much else. He probably needs someone who’s more willing to bump than Misterioso is, though Misterioso did take the big spear well. The Panther pescado tornillo looked good too, but neither of these guys are impressive singles wrestlers.

LU available online, AAA/Neza, Ciber/block


There is nothing to write about today, which explains some of the things I’ve written a lot about.

The full four seasons of Lucha Underground are now up on Tubi. It’s an MGM owned service, so that makes some sense, but also means no else one was all that much interested in having this for themselves. (It’s not going back up on Netflix if it’s here for free.) There are ads and this may not be available in all regions.

This has no bearing on Lucha Underground’s chances of returning, which remain extremely remote. If you want to get really depressing about it, note that it was me who brought it to everyone’s attention (though I saw it from this guy’s post) and Lucha Underground still hasn’t mentioned it. No one even bothered to promote TripleMania from those social media accounts. It’s not a thing front-facing people are thinking about it.

Sanchez Promotions has an ad up for an AAA spot show in Arena Neza on Monday, September 16th with plenty of people who might be working elsewhere the day before. Psycho Clown actually hyped this show as being September 15th on the previous AAA Neza spot show, which would’ve been the same day as the AAA show in New York. It is now the day later.

It is possible to make it from New York on Monday morning to Neza in time for this show. I’ve done it from Chicago in the morning to Neza for 5 pm shows. This one starts a couple of hours later. Of course, I was just sitting at that show and these guys actually have to wrestle. It’s possible, it’s probably something Penta & Fenix have already done, it still would seem to be tough to pull it off. It might be meaningful that AAA appeared to not have a spot show after TripleMania this year (the Wagner show was an indie one.)

Anyway, the teaser doesn’t list a lineup but also sort of gives away the lineup? Just look at the photo order:

  • Psycho Clown, Pentagon Jr., Fenix vs LA Park, Hijo de LA Park, LA Park Jr.
  • La Parka, Maximo, Monster Clown vs Murder Clown, Dave the Clown, ? in a relevos increibles match
  • Nino Hamburguesa, Myzteziz, Aerostar vs Poder del Norte
  • Lady Shani & Faby Apache vs Lady Maravilla & Keyra

No idea if Keyra will actually be done.

Konnan & Disco talks about TripleMania in 1 hour 3 minute in Keepin’ It 100 podcast.

  • Konnan mentions he didn’t want Aerostar to do another high dive and found it was happening when he got to the production meeting and was told about the stage for it. He was relieved it went ok.
  • Konnan praises Cain Velasquez, who was doing extra sessions when not asked and came to Mexico in early to do more. Konnan mentions watching videos with Cain at 10 pm at night to watch videos of other matches (including Ronda Rousey’s debut) to get ideas and that Cain is interested in wrestling more, though not only/specifically in AAA.
  • Konnan says he had a conversation early on in the Wagner/Demon feud, convincing Demon to play a full rudo and not just a guy on the rudo side who still slaps hands with the crowd. Konnan said Demon would get to turn back to a tecnico at some point but wanted him to commit to the role. (Demon/Wagner is said to be something given to Konnan to work with and not necessarily something he made.) The original plan for the finish was for a backbreaker onto the brick, but the bricks were too hard. Konnan felt also using the hammer was the best way to get both guys over – Demon for being such an evil guy to use both a brick and a hammer and Wagner being sympathetic for taking it. Both like that the match had blood off the start.
  • Konnan says Kross looked like a star and it parlayed into something really positive for him that he couldn’t talk about the podcast.

The thing that people are upset about in Mexico that doesn’t even register to me as a thing is Wagner & Demon took a photo together the day after TripleMania. They might actually not hate each other, scandalous.

On CMLL Informa, Ciber the Main Man revealed his secret weapon to defeat Ultimo Guerrero on Friday: a cinder block. He and Julio Cesar Rivera joked how it was a real block and not one that falls apart immediately. It’s rare anyone in CMLL acknowledged anything that happened in AAA, but it’s Ciber and he probably felt great mocking it. Also on the show, Mistico again said the reason he (and his father) aren’t wrestling in the US are due to visa issues.

Soberano Jr. was announced for the NJPW Super J-Cup from August 22-25, joining Caristico and Dragon Lee as CMLL reps. There are three spots remaining. I’d be surprised if there was another CMLL luchador.

Akuma talked to Reporte Indigo about life without a mask, crediting big brother Demus for encouraging him to reinvent himself. The Beast Mode nickname explicitly comes from former NFL player Marshawn Lynch. Akuma says he’s studying English and does not say what injury he suffered.

NXT UK’s Trent Seven & Tyler Bate return to The Crash on 09/07. Those two are over in North America as part of working a tour, and that’s the next The Crash show. This is interesting coming off the Rebelion Amarilla reunion bit a few weeks ago, though The Crash also just really likes booking big names. Seven & Bate are technically representing Seven.

Cain Velasquez talked about his match with ESPN, mentions he learned the huracanrana one day before the show.

LuchaWorld has the latest edition of their podcast.

CMLL Puebla: 2019-07-29

Volador superkick

Recapped: 07/30/2019


King Jaguar & Meyer beat Policeman & Sombra Diabólika
(12:46 [6:06, 3:38, 3:02], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Marcela beat Metálica in a lightning match
(9:08, double underhook piledriver, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

El Malayo, El Perverso, Virus beat Eléctrico, Millennium, Rey Samuray
(11:56 [6:35, 5:21], 1/2, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Felino, Hijo del Villano III, Tiger beat Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Stigma
(15:36 [4:02, 5:18, 6:16], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr. beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(12:12 [2:36, 6:07, 3:29], 1/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Dragón Lee, La Bestia Del Ring, Rush beat Carístico, Euforia, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match
(12:47 [2:58, 3:36, 6:13], 1/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Dragon Lee challenged Volador to a title match, as did Virus did to Electrico.


Marcela laying in the double knees

It was strange to see Volador as the tecnico and Dragon Lee as the rudo in the main event, though that’s clearly what it had to be given their partners. Dragon Lee can play rudo fine, but Volador’s better at it and can control the pace a little better that way. They did a bit here to build to next week’s match, though not enough to give an idea of what it might be (and they might switch back to the other way when it happens.) Caristico seemed enthusiastic to face La Bestia del Ring, which is very weird, and there was more effort than usual for an Ingobernables Puebla main event.

Rating everything OK is dumb for many reasons, but also because it implies all the matches are about the same. They weren’t all the exact same matches this time. The Tiger led match was a hard-working match if just a bit too generic to stick out in any way. The Hijo del Infierno match had little going on, with the rudos doing just about nothing while in control, but had a loud crowd helping everything seem much bigger than it was.

The women’s match was the best of the three, though still had flaws that I couldn’t get past. This is a big advantage in hindsight, but the women’s lightning match feels like something not intended to set up a second match. Marcela & Metalica blow thru all the build up near falls in this match, with only the finishers left in a near ten-minute match. They also completely crush each other on the top rope moves, making the match feel a little brutal. There’s still too much getting in position for the next spot rather than fighting. Marcela totally whiffs on a springboard plancha bit to no reaction for Metalica, and Marcela’s brutal double knee drop gives her control for roughly ten seconds before it’s Metalica’s turn to do a spot. This did work for the live crowd and it was borderline match for me.

Virus and Electrico interactions actually seemed to be kept to a minimum in the trios setting up their title match. They were the key points of each fall but Virus wasn’t in a whole lot besides that, letting the locals take most of the match. Virus looked super impressive in his time, Electrico less so. The biggest reaction of the match was really for King Jaguar getting knocked out of the ring and seemingly knocking the tray out of vendor’s hands at the end of the first fall. CMLL never acknowledge it but the crowd sure got into the mess.