TripleMania Day, Ciber vs Ultimo Guerrero, Demon/Wagner in San Jose?


CMLL (FRI) 08/02/2019 Arena México [CMLL, Lucha CentralMarcathecubsfan]
1) Dark Magic & Sangre Azteca b Oro Jr. & Súper Astro Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 2 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:25. Espanto Jr. replaced Sangre Azteca, then Sangre Azteca & Dark Magic ended up in the match instead of Akuma & Espanto anyway. Rudos took 2/3.
2) Chamuel, Guapito, Periko Zacarías b Átomo, Gallito, Microman LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 2 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:49. Chamuel gave Microman his first ever Arena Mexico loss.
3) La Metálica b MarcelaAmapolaTiffanySanelyLa InfernalMalignaLa GuerreraLa SeductoraAvispa Dorada [CMLL Universal Femenil, semifinalLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 2 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
21:42. Mystique was briefly listed in La Infernal’s spot. Order of elimination (after a battle royal): La Infernal (Amapola; Infernal’s return after 20 years), La Guerrera (Seductora), La Malgina (Sanely), Seductora (Marcela), Sanely (Tiffany), Amapola & Tiffany went to a double pin, Avispa Dorada (Marcela), Marcela (Metalica) leaving Metalica to advance to the final.
4) Dragón Lee b Gran Guerrero [lightningLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 2 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
8:35, but only after Pompin held up on an obvious three count a half minute earlier.
5) Ciber the Main Man, Rush, Terrible b Cavernario, Dark Magic, Último Guerrero [Relevos IncreíblesLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 2 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
9:20. Ciber took 1/3, beating UG to set up a title match next week. Dark Magic replaced Mr. Niebla, working twice.
6) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón DQ Carístico, Místico, Volador Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 2 DE AGOSTO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
7:23. Straight falls, Forastero faking a foul from Volador.

CMLL Promos: Super Astro & Oro Jr. would like to form a regular team, the Micro rudos are proud to finally get a win, La Metalica talks advancing to the CMLL Universal final, Dragon Lee dedicates his win to the fans, Ciber believes this is the moment where he’ll win the CMLL Heavyweight Championship, Ultimo Guerrero is very insistent on the hair match after and NGD brag about winning in straight falls.

Pressroom interviews: NGD (who make a point of saying the Dream Team don’t get a title shot because they lost again), Caristico (dealing with a finger injury), Dragon Lee, Ciber, Ultimo Guerrero, and La Metalica.

This was another weak show in a series of them. Unless you’d like to hold onto hope of a Volador/Forastero Aniversario main event, everything points towards Ciber versus Ultimo Guerrero in a hair match on 09/13. There was nothing else this week to tease a cage match and no other match being set up. Ultimo Guerrero did the sort of promo CMLL uses in their video package every time. The feud is neither nor over but it’s the direction CMLL has committed itself towards. It’s not very exciting and we’ve seen bad Aniversario matches cause the month before them to struggle as well.

Dragon Lee/Gran Guerrero was fun until the referee botch. There were highlights in the Micros match and with Avispa’s performance in the women’s match. CMLL had something they could follow up with Avispa Dorada in this match – she’s good and she stands out from everyone else – but it seems unlike CMLL to do that. I hope indie promoters try to get Avispa (& Metalica) in their promotions to see what she could do without the limitations of CMLL.

Akuma announced on Facebook that he would be out six weeks after suffering a leg injury last Friday. Dark Magic may have been intended to fill in for Mr. Niebla (who missed a Thursday show) and Sangre Azteca for Espanto, but CMLL also knew Akuma was out well ahead of time and didn’t bring enough subs. That was just weird. Dark Magic is one of the last people in CMLL who should be featured twice in a show.

Today is TripleMania. I wrote a long preview over at Voices of Wrestling. Some additional random notes

  • I didn’t have it figured out by the time that was up, but the bonus match is Dragon Bane, Arkangel Divino, and Astrolux vs Toxin, Arez and Aramis. That sounds great and worth sitting thru whatever pre-show there will be.
  • I blanked on the reason why Killer Kross might not be in the mystery match: the Impact vs AEW thing seems like an issue. Maybe they’ll work it out. My impression is AAA is trying to make that spot a big deal, though it’s going to be hard to come off that way with Psycho, Velasques and Cody on the other side.
  • I still don’t know who will be the English announcers. Vampiro still believes he’s on the microphone. Other people either clearly believe he will not or want that to be the case. I suspect Vampiro will get his way and continue to announce the show because one of the goals of AAA seems to be to keep Vampiro happy above presenting a product that reflects AAA in the best light.
  • This show is going to be very long. This show is always very long.
  • Tickets seem like they’re moving well but there are still plenty left. There’s surprising a bunch of close tickets left, but maybe they were added late. I think this will outdraw the ~15,000 for the Liger farewell show.
  • There are people who very sincerely believe Blue Demon’s losing. I’ve had to ban one of them from the luchawiki this week. I do not believe and would think it would be one of the most illogical decisions ever – even if Demon’s got to lose here, you don’t put Wagner opposite of him –  but Rob seemed like he heard things that suggest it in his POST Wrestling interview and Planchitas is picking it.
    • Neither man seems to be actually retiring given all the bookings they’re taking. They’re wrestling again tomorrow.
    • My guess still is the show ends with Blue Demon vs Psycho Clown being set up.

I’m more excited and less terrified by TripleMania than usual. I may eat my words on that. You can listen to me eat my words on Twitch after the show is over. We’re also going to be soliciting donations via Ko-Fi if you enjoy the podcast. Doing something live like that is above and beyond what we’ve normally done so if you like it and you’d like more of it, it would help to thru a few dollars our way.

Cain Velasquez told SI that there are two more events “that I’m for sure doing after TripleMania.” This sounds like he’ll be part of the New York & Los Angeles AAA shows. If he gets the same attention for those matches as he’s got for this TripleMania, it seems an easy call for AAA to pay him to do more shows. It also might affect tonight’s match; AAA would be wise to give people a story for the MSG show. They don’t always do that. Cain is also teasing a mask he’ll wear to the ring.

Blue Demon says he’s at his best physical shape (at the age of 53!) I know that’s hype but my American brain has me wondering what this mean was doing in his 20s and 30s.

Rey Escorpion was shooting video from the TripleMania set up yesterday, so he was probably walking thru whatever it is he’s doing on the show.  Copa TripleMania seems most likely, but I could see him taking bumps for Velasquez as well.

Dr. Wagner & Blue Demon are listed as headlining a lucha libre show at the San Jose’s SAP Center on October 12 using the very old WWO promotional name. The poster is so cheap looking that the event comes off fake. The SAP Center website currently lists no event on that date. The promotion has a Facebook page that points to a website for tickets, but the website doesn’t exist or didn’t load when I checked Friday. The sponsor listed is the same one which sponsored the AAA US tour in 2009. AAA ran this same building (it was the HP Pavillon at that point) and didn’t draw well. That lineup looks like something sure to struggle to sell tickets.

Toxin posted his schedule for the next two months in an Instagram story. (Captured here.) Of note, there’s an AAA TV taping scheduled for September 8 and Pro Wrestling Mexico is scheduled to have a second show on September 7th. I’d expect we’ll start to hear more about the PWM show after Nacion Lucha Libre runs on Sunday in Monterrey. It’d be helpful for AAA if they pushed their next half dozen or so tapings during TripleMania but that’s something that never happens.

AAA is hoping to reach their one millionth YouTube subscriber today. They were about 60,000 short when I checked this morning.

Laredo Kid was announced for PWG’s Battle of Los Angeles tournament. He’s the 6th Mexican wrestler to be announced, which ties the record.

Diamante is headed to Dragon Gate, as the newest member of the RED group. He wrestled in AJPW last year and continues to get regular foreign booking despite not having a high profile home in Mexico. He seems like a guy who’d fit in Nacion Lucha Libre but hadn’t shown up there yet. There’s no word on how long he’ll be there.

A show scheduled for Mexicali today has been canceled. Shocker was scheduled to headline; he hasn’t wrestled since May 21st and hasn’t liked anything on Twitter since June 26th.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-08-02

Avispa Dorada

Recapped: 08/02/2019


Sangre Azteca & Dark Magic beat Oro Jr. & Súper Astro Jr.
(15:25 [5:58, 3:43, 5:44], 2/3, below average, 00:00:00)

Chamuel, Guapito, Periko Zacarías beat Átomo, Gallito, Microman
(13:49 [4:31, 2:44, 6:34], 1/3, ok, 00:22:47)

La Metálica beat Tiffany, Sanely, La Infernal, Maligna, La Guerrera, La Seductora, Avispa Dorada, Amapola, Marcela in the semifinal of the CMLL Universal tournament
(21:42, ok, 00:47:40)

  • 07:26 Amapola arms tied submission La Infernal
  • 09:54 La Seductora rolling hammerlock La Guerrera
  • 12:48 Sanely La Soberana La Maligna
  • 14:32 Marcela straight jacket cavernaria La Seductora
  • 15:50 Tiffany senton Sanely
  • 18:49 Amapola double pin Tiffany
  • 18:49 Tiffany double pin Amapola
  • 20:04 Marcela Michinoku Driver on Avispa Dorada
  • 21:42 Metalica senton Marcela

Dragón Lee beat Gran Guerrero in a lightning match
(8:35, suplex powerbomb, good, 01:20:56)

Ciber the Main Man, Rush, Terrible beat Cavernario, Dark Magic, Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles match
(9:20 [2:37, 2:30, 4:13], 1/3, ok, 01:35:35)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Carístico, Místico, Volador Jr.
(7:23 [1:03, 6:20], 1/2 DQ, ok, 01:54:47)

What happened:

Microman can sneak up on you

For the second straight week, Forastero cheated to draw a DQ. He faked a foul this time to get Volador disqualified.

Dark Magic wrestled twice on the show. He replaced Akuma & Espanto Jr. in the opener alongside Sangre Azteca, then came back to replace Mr. Niebla in the semi-main. Ciber cleanly defeated UG in the match, then challenged him to a title match. Guerrero accepted but wanted a hair match after. This appears to be the Aniversario main event, though it wasn’t said.

Dark Magic replaced Mr. Niebla. Ciber challenged UG to a title match next week. UG asked for a rematch.

Dragon Lee was clearly supposed to win on a running knee smash. Pompin stopped counting at two despite Gran Guerrero never kicking out. Both Dragon Lee and the crowd were furious. Dragon Lee won with his powerbomb a few moments later and led chants against Pompin.

Metalica beat Marcela to advance in the CMLL Universal tournament. The crowd loudly booed when Marcela eliminated Avispa Dorada three from the end.

Chamuel beat Microman in the third fall, the first time Microman has been defeated in Arena Mexico since debuting.


Dragon Lee toss

This was another disappointing show. The main event was technically fine but not at all what it promised on paper, instead of seven minutes and a second straight week of a bad finish. I’m not sure if I would’ve liked it if it was a normal full match, which they had time to do because the heart was taken out of this show by the semi-main.

Ciber versus Ultimo Guerrero seems like the Aniversario main event. The feud was no more over nor good in the ring than usual on this show, less an attraction than King Jaguar versus Perverso, but there was equally no sign of anyone else being added to the match. The names were there for a cage match but none were teased. I guess the match itself was not awful, though Dark Magic was totally out of place (and weirdly a tecnico after being a rudo earlier.) It was generally a lifeless match for a dispiriting feud.

Gran Guerrero versus Dragon Lee was easily the best match on the show, and even it had a botched finish. The two youngsters just ran thru most of their big moves in no particular order or meaning. Having big cool moves put them ahead of most of the people on this show. It seemed like Dragon Lee was risking doom by waiting until the very last moment to kick out of some pin attempts, so it was surprising when the match went too long instead of too short. Credit to the luchadors for being more professional than referee Pompin in finding a way to make the match still dramatically come to an end. This happens way too often in CMLL and much more than in any major league promotion I see.

The women’s cibernetico made a star. It’s a star CMLL doesn’t seem like they’re going to push, even though she did go much farther in tonight’s match than anyone would’ve expected. Avispa Dorada was the winner of the match, looking leagues ahead of her opponents and teammates, even though Metalica technically got the win. This was the best match of her run in CMLL so far, somehow getting more time for a showcase in a ten women match than normally happens in a trios. Avispa got to work with Metalica a lot, which helped. Metalica makes sense as the pick to make a new star and seems to have been the pick to elevate for a while, but it wasn’t the crowd’s choice. No one else stood out positively, with Maligna having the lowest moment of the match by slipping on a dive attempt. La Guerrera doing the same top rope walk rope spot twice doesn’t show great depth. La Infernal had a nice story but was as forgettable as most women in the match.

more Microman

Microman & Chamuel were great together, better than usual. The other four guys exist because CMLL sees this as needing to be a trios match, but they’re not on the level. Gallito & Zacarias had moments and were fine in the end, but the other guys were a struggle. The match is worth watching for the Microman & Chamuel parts at least, but there needs to be more.

Before Dark Magic looked out of place in the semi-main, he looked out of place in the opener. Dark Magic seems to exist to prove that’s it really not that easy for foreigners to pick up lucha libre. Or maybe he’s just hanging around until the bodybuilding contest. He probably was thrown into both matches late and didn’t have much time to work thru them, but he still shouldn’t look as lost as he did. Super Astro Jr. seems wasted when he doesn’t have good rudos to work with and there’s almost no good rudos in the openers. Sangre Azteca using a tornado throat drop of the ropes to set up his low blow dropkick was more thought than usual for him.