Chavez win Copa Dinasita, coin throwing banned in CMLL, new Nacion debut card

everyone dies

CMLL (FRI) 06/21/2019 Arena México [CMLL, El GraficoESTOLost in LuchaLucha CentralMarcaOvacionesPubliMetroRecordThe Gladiatores]
1) Espíritu Negro & Hijo del Signo b Robin & Súper Astro Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JUNIO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
10:28. Rudos took 1/3.
2) Drone, Fuego, Tritón b Disturbio, Tiger, Virus LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JUNIO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:17. Tecnicos took 2/3. Triton & Tiger continue to feud, Triton won cleanly.
3) Hechicero, Kawato San, Templario b Audaz, Flyer, Soberano Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JUNIO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
16:53. Rudos took 1/3 in a wild match.
4) Negro Casas b Titán [lightningLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JUNIO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
6:32. Casas won via casita after kicking out of a Titan one.
5) Ciber the Main Man, Gilbert el Boricua, The Chris b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JUNIO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:11. Team Ciber took 1/3, the last when he fouled and chokeslamed UG.
6) Ángel de Oro & Niebla Roja b La Bestia Del Ring & Rush [Copa Dinastia] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 21 DE JUNIO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
21:15. Chavez took 2/3 to win the tournament. Rush was DQed for weapon usage in the second. Third came down to Oro & Rush. In a sequence that looked confused, Rush gave Oro a martinete, then Oro recovered immediately to foul and cradle Rush for the win.

CMLL promos: Chavez brothers, Los Guerreros, Gilbert, Ciber, and The Chris and Negro Casas.

Press room interviews: Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja, Ciber, The Chris & Gilbert.

Of the newspapers recaps, I think only Publimetro mentions the martinete. Something went wrong there, leading to a very visible discussion between Rush & referee Edgar Noriega. The best guess was Bestia was supposed to distract and forgot. The match was better than the Homenaje a Dos Leyendas match with a nearly as confusing ending.

The third match was the best of the night, exciting if not sharp at times.

I don’t know if CMLL is actually going to do the Ciber/UG hair match. I do know this crowd didn’t seem to care much about the idea.

Maybe the biggest news from the night was a new announcement, shown before and during the show, forbidding the long-running tradition of throwing coins to the ring to celebrate a great match. CMLL has made an announcement telling fans there is no reason to throw anything at the ring for some time; fans interrupted that as other objects but CMLL’s security has wanted the coins to stop as well. It is not hard to find incidents of front row fans being hit by an errant coin throws or wrestlers getting pegged by coins thrown at them instead of at the ring. CMLL also really tries to speed undercard matches out of the ring to keep the show going, so there have been times where following matches have been taking bumps on coins that no one had time to scoop up. The obvious reasons to keep doing is this is money raining into the ring is an awesome visual when done right and at high volume and the luchadors definitely don’t mind the extra money. The fans don’t mind it either; all the responses I got about this last night were people upset about CMLL trying to put a stop to it.

This announcement didn’t put a stop to it last night. Fans threw in money anyway after the third match, though it did seem like security might have talked to them about it. I don’t expect this to change in any other venue in Mexico and I’m not sure it’ll change in Arena Mexico unless something else is suggested to replace it or CMLL security really cracks down.

In the ever-changing CMLL on Televisa situation, they’re starting at 4 pm today but getting two hours of airtime.

Killer Kross appeared to be written off Impact Wrestling last night. The promotion didn’t definitely say he was done but the segment he appeared on appeared to be an ending. Kross is playing into it on Twitter, people who’ve contacted Impact says he’s still under contract. Kross’s significant other Scarlett Bordeaux recently was granted her release after complains both had about their contracts became public. Both were free to work AAA while working Impact. AEW had said previously to be interested in signing them, which would mean they would remain free to wrestle in AAA as long as they’d like. However, anyone AEW has interest in, WWE also has an interest in as well. There’s at least a chance of those two finishing up in AAA.

La Parka’s Record column talks about the AAA show in Los Angeles on October 3rd. The show is on October 13th.

Puma King has a video from Verano de Escandalo.

DTU has an interview with Principe Cometa.

Shows today:

and Sunday


CMLL (FRI) 06/28/2019 Arena México
1) Eléctrico & Oro Jr. vs Inquisidor & Nitro
2) Avispa Dorada, La Maligna, Lluvia vs Amapola, La Comandante, Tiffany
3) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón vs Esfinge, Titán, Tritón
4) Stuka Jr. vs Mephisto [lightning]
5) Ciber the Main Man, Gilbert el Boricua, The Chris vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
6) Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas

I was thinking about going to the AAW show that’s this same night. I hadn’t bought a ticket, afraid I was going to have to eat if CMLL did something important. I think I could buy that AAW ticket now. A few matches that could be alright but nothing special here. Next week is the big show.

The Crash (FRI) 07/05/2019 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California
1) Dinámico, Terror Azteca, Tiago vs Murciélago Plateado, Ryan Kidd, Xperia
2) Gallito Tapatío & Microman vs Chamuel & Guapito
3) Bugambilia, Luke Hawx, PJ Hawx vs Black Danger, Mortiz, Oráculo
4) Animal, Demencia, Silver Star vs Star Boy, Viento, Zarco
5) Ángel de Oro & Niebla Roja vs LSG & Shaheem Ali
6) Rey Horus © vs El BandidoThe KingXtreme Tiger [THE CRASH HEAVY]
1st defense
7) Bestia 666 & Mecha Wolf © vs Hijo de LA Park & LA Park [THE CRASH TAG]
1st defense

Semi-main seems great. Interested in seeing if Coast 2 Coast can make any waves outside of ROH. (For both Crash here and ROH in general, they need guys like those to be relevant.) Fourth match is the rudo vs rudo locals feud. My guess about NJPW reasons for the move seems way off.

NLL (THU) 07/11/2019 Sala de Armas Magdalena Mixhuca, Ciudad México, Distrito Federal
1) Christi Jaynes, Stephanie Vaquer, Thunder Rosa vs Lady Flammer, Reina Oscura, Sexy Star
2) Heddi Karaoui & Negro Navarro vs Canek & Damián 666
3) Galeno Del Mal & Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Hijo de LA Park & LA Park
4) Fresero Jr. & Mr. Iguana vs Bestia 666 & Damián 666 and Relámpago & the Tiger (Tamaulipas)
5) Brazo De Oro Jr., Dual, Hijo De Dos Caras vs Batab El Guerrero, Bram, La Máscara
6) El Bandido vs Rey Horus
7) ? & Matt Sydal vs Chavo Guerrero Jr. & Mecha Wolf 450
8) Alberto el Patrón, Hijo del Fantasma, LA Park vs Apolo (Puerto Rico), El Mesías, MVP

Take Two. Nacion Lucha Libre not only couldn’t get the lineup correct the first time, they couldn’t get the press release announcing the new lineup correct the first time. It went up for a while, deleted, and was reposted with some minor corrections. They acknowledge Wagner, Penta and Fenix being off the card but no one else, possibly because it looked too embarrassing to remove that many people. Those guys are said to be welcome back as soon as they’re free from their obligations while Nacion emphasized they’re not going to sign anyone to contracts.

Horus & Bandido looks like a good match. Chavo going the “we’re going to teach the Mexicans how to do it right” and ending up facing Matt Sydal is funny.

Show #2 is probably a little over a month away and hasn’t been mentioned yet.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-06-21


Recapped: 06/21/2019


Espíritu Negro & Hijo del Signo beat Robin & Súper Astro Jr.
(10:28 [4:38, 2:15, 3:35], 1/3, ok, 

Drone, Fuego, Tritón beat Disturbio, Tiger, Virus
(14:17 [5:24, 2:32, 6:21], 2/3, ok, 

Hechicero, Kawato San, Templario beat Audaz, Flyer, Soberano Jr.
(16:53 [4:41, 4:44, 7:28], 1/3, good,

Negro Casas beat Titán in a lightning match
(6:32, casita, ok,

Ciber the Main Man, Gilbert el Boricua, The Chris beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
(13:11 [4:02, 2:03, 7:06], 1/3, below average,

Ángel de Oro & Niebla Roja beat La Bestia Del Ring & Rush to win Copa Dinastia
(21:15 [1:12, 6:12, 13:51], 2 DQ/3, ok, 

What happened:

better get your hands up

Copa Dinastia ended messily. Niebla Roja & Bestia del Ring were eliminated, leaving Angel de Oro & Rush. Rush gave Angel de Oro a martinete in front of referee Edgar, then go up and walked to the ropes near Niebla Roja. Oro recovered immediately to foul (also in front of the referee) and inside cradle Rush for the win. It appeared Bestia was supposed to have been involved in the finish and forgot, causing some (poor) improvising.

Earlier, Rush picked up the DQ in the second fall for bringing a video cable into the ring and hitting the Chavez brothers with it. Los Ingobernables losing a fall by DQ in a match they’re losing (so they only get pinned one) happens in every big match.

Ciber also used a foul to defeat Ultimo Guerrero in the semi-main. UG challenged for both a hair match and a trios rematch. Ciber seemed willing to do the trios match but wanted a title match before any hair match.

Triton & Tiger continued to feud, though Triton won cleanly with a 450 splash.

A new PSA was shown asking fans not to throw coins at the ring. Coins were thrown at the ring following the third match.


Audaz flies

A cold show outside of the third match. It took until the last moments of the main event for the crowd really to get into it. They dropped out of the Negro Casas/Titan match very quickly. Both Ciber/UG and Angel de Oro/Rush were slightly suggested as Aniversario main events. Both will need work to get people to care.

The work in the main event was interesting in how it was put together not to fail. They’d clearly run thru it before. Rush was still visibly coaching his father to get him thru it. He did so generally OK before the botched finish. It also felt like they dumbed down the match so much that what was left was unexciting. The Ingobernables controlled sections lacked excitement and creativity. The Chavez felt like they went a long time with getting in nothing outside of dives. This was not the disaster the Homenaje a Dos Leyendas match was. It was a competent match, just not a very interesting one.


The Chris & Gilbert were on such different pages on a double team move (well, at least one of them though it was a double team move) that it didn’t appear the semi-main was going to even be competent. The outside trio stuck with standing and punching for most of the rest of the time. It wasn’t impressive. The UG/Ciber direction is the UG/Mascara 2000 match feud brought back awfully quickly for something that didn’t seem to work the first time. Ciber can’t do much more than Chucho and would obviously have just as limited singles match if they get that far. Maybe they’d get by if these crowd cared about these guys, but the semi-main got as little reaction as anything all night. CMLL flaked out on the Guerreros/CL4N feud last year and one can only hope they’ll do so again.

Titan & Negro Casas lost the crowd during the match. I can’t really identify for sure why, but they were cheering loudly for Casas and then not really caring when Casas was doing things. The match went heavily back and forth where neither man got much momentum and ended quickly, but there’s plenty of lightning match that flowed a little better than this. Casas and Soberano have had better matches lately, so this was a disappointment.

the roll really makes it.

The guys in the third match went for it. It didn’t totally work but the effort was pretty outstanding. Audaz felt unleashed in a way that hasn’t been seen in a lot of his matches. Maybe it because Templario & Hechicero were around, but some of his riskier stuff was done with Kawato nearby. Soberano & Templario are good together but Soberano & Hechicero are great. Hechicero seems to break Soberano of his usual routines to include some creativity, including the excellent finish. Both third fall dive sequences were a lot of fun, especially Kawato & Flyer’s plunge to the floor. Flyer had his timing issues and Templario messed up his springboard dropkick; there were mistakes that could’ve been fixed here with another try. Hope they get it.

There was plenty of time for the segunda but it didn’t really come together. Tirton & Tiger seemed hotter last week. Tiger was about as enthusiastic about taking the first Triton stage dive as I was about watching the opener. At least him selling that made it seem less silly he was standing in place for the second one. Everyone else was fine but there was an energy missing from the match.

The opener was completely forgettable. Super Astro got out in one piece leading into the super lightweight cibernetico on Sunday, on the outside chance he gets to advance in the ring. He didn’t get to show as much as usual, everyone else did the same couple spots they do in every match.