CMLL Tuesday, Generacion XXI, Battle of Naucalpan

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CMLL (TUE) 04/16/2019 Arena México [CMLL, Lucha Central]
1) Príncipe Diamante & Robin b Apocalipsis & Inquisidor LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 16 DE ABRIL DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3
2) Pegasso, Star Jr., Stigma b Akuma, Espanto Jr., Espíritu Negro LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 16 DE ABRIL DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3
3) Dark Magic, Kawato San, Pólvora b Blue Panther, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 16 DE ABRIL DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
rudos took 2/3
4) Templario b Flyer [lightningLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 16 DE ABRIL DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
7:01
5) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Hechicero b Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr., Valiente LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 16 DE ABRIL DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Straight falls. Clean win, though Hechicero unmasked Stuka after.
6) Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero b Carístico, Místico, Titán LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 16 DE ABRIL DE  2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3, UG snuck in a mask pull on Caristico.

Akuma, Espanto and Espiritu Negro were so thrilled by their, uh, loss that they cut a promo asking to be a trio. Between this and the Stuka/Hechicero stuff, there’s a fair amount of people publicly pitching storylines while CMLL is not really interested in doing them. Things are happening are Templario picking up another win and Ultimo Guerrero brags about his win. Caristico versus Ultimo Guerrero seems an ideal 04/30 main event.

CMLL (TUE) 04/16/2019 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Magnum, Metatrón, Mr. Samurai b Gran Kenut, León Blanco, Paymon
rudos took 1/3
2) Angelito, Micro, Shockercito b Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Relámpago Azul
tecnicos took 2/3
3) Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Drone b Tiger, Universo 2000 Jr., Virus
tecnicos took 1/3
4) Cavernario, Ephesto, Mephisto b Esfinge, Kráneo, Volcano
rudos took 1/3.
5) La Bestia Del Ring, Rush, Terrible b Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Valiente
Valiente replaced Diamante Azul (injury). Los Ingobernables took falls 1/3.

No sign of anything being set up here.

G21 (TUE) 04/16/2019 Arena Querétaro [+LuchaTV]
1) Ciclón Negro Jr. & Galáctico Dragón b Iracundo & Lucifer Generación XXI, Arena Querétaro | LA Park vs Dr Wagner Jr vs Blue Demon Jr (posted by +LuchaTV)
2) Gremlin, Negro García Jr., Speed Demon b Alas de Acero, Eterno (IWRG), Lunatik Xtreme Generación XXI, Arena Querétaro | LA Park vs Dr Wagner Jr vs Blue Demon Jr (posted by mluchatv)
3) Dragón de Oriente I, Lady Flammer, Princesa Guerrera b Diosa Quetzal, Halcón Negro Jr., Medussa Generación XXI, Arena Querétaro | LA Park vs Dr Wagner Jr vs Blue Demon Jr (posted by mluchatv)
Quetzal & Flammer fought after the match
4) Kastigador, Metaleón, Murciélago Plateado Jr. b Arez, Belial, Impulso Generación XXI, Arena Querétaro | LA Park vs Dr Wagner Jr vs Blue Demon Jr (posted by mluchatv)
very good match
5) Bandido (Indie) b VengadorHomicida Generación XXI, Arena Querétaro | LA Park vs Dr Wagner Jr vs Blue Demon Jr (posted by mluchatv)
Homicida added himself to the match a couple of minutes in, to the great displeasure of the crowd. Bandido won via 21-Plex on both men, pinning Vengador. Good match.
6) Hijo de LA Park & La Park Jr. b Galeno Del Mal & Hijo del Dr. Wagner Jr. Generación XXI, Arena Querétaro | LA Park vs Dr Wagner Jr vs Blue Demon Jr (posted by mluchatv)
money thrown in
7) LA Park b Dr. Wagner Jr.Blue Demon Generación XXI, Arena Querétaro | LA Park vs Dr Wagner Jr vs Blue Demon Jr (posted by mluchatv)
so many mask pulls and ref bumps before Wagner pinned an unmasked LA Park

+LuchaTV did this as a surprise stream. I saw the 4th/5th matches before turning out for the night. The fourth match was good if a few things looked off. Bandido’s match was good too but also hilarious. The crowd was so upset when Homicida added himself to the match that it seemed to disturb him a bit. I don’t know if the idea was to get two people in to redo the 21 Plex spot from Ring of Honor this weekend or if the promoter just thought they needed a third person, but more is not always better.

Seemed like a good crowd in Queretaro. Their show Monday night in Leon drew a reported 2,500. Angeluz Fly needed 28 stitches after a badly designed spot. +LuchaTV went over the G21 card for Naucalpan this weekend, listing Diamante Azul as if he’s still wrestling. I doubt he is so that probably means G21 haven’t worked out a sub yet.

The new Lucha Azteca AAA announcer is El Tirantes. He was announced as the new third man on Azteca’s Los Protagonistas last night. Tirantes told MedioTiempo he planned to take a year off only to later decide he couldn’t pass up this chance. Tirantes was presented as an Azteca employee and announcer only, though he did say he was open to returning to the ring as an AAA referee if a deal is made. It would be odd for Tirantes to be commentating on a match he’s officiating. Still, he’s an evil referee in close proximity to AAA, it is likely they’ll have an idea to use him at some point.

Taking a step back, it sure looks like Tirantes had this job in hand when he left CMLL. The timing lines up well. It fits alongside Konnan talking positively about Tirantes on his podcast last week; he would’ve known Tirantes was coming on Azteca to replace him. It does mean it was Tirantes choice to leave a referee job for a few days a week plus a management role in Arena Puebla for doing announcing once a week, which might say something about how CMLL pay is for those roles. I know there was unhappiness within CMLL for Tirantes recent issues and Tirantes may have been looking for an escape path when this job offer came up.

The full Battle of Naucalpan card was announced last night.

Lucha Memes, Mexa (WED) 05/01/2019 Arena Naucalpan
1) Silueta vs Lady Flammer
2) Audaz (CMLL) & Último Maldito vs Templario & The Tiger and Black Dragón & Torito Negro and Alas de Acero & Iron Kid
3) Aeroboy vs Negro CasasEl Diablo Fly StarKomanderMetaleónSéptimo DragónMurciélago Plateado
4) Jonathan Gresham vs Virus
5) El Bandido vs Último Guerrero
6) Aramis vs Flamita [Battle of Naucalpan, quarterfinal]
7) Laredo Kid vs Arkángel Divino [Battle of Naucalpan, quarterfinal]
8) Arez vs Puma King [Battle of Naucalpan, quarterfinal]
9) Steve Pain vs Rey Horus [Battle of Naucalpan, quarterfinal]
10) ? vs ?? [Battle of Naucalpan, semifinal]
11) ? vs ?? [Battle of Naucalpan, semifinal]
12) ? vs ?? [Battle of Naucalpan, final]

They did end up doing a tournament, as part of the homage to PWG’s Battle of Los Angeles. The tournament could be fantastic. They could split this card in two, the tournament on one show and the rest of the matches on another, and it would be two of the stronger indie cards this year. The tickets are more expensive than usual but – assuming everything delivers as it should – they might be underpriced for the level of the show they’re doing.

A few days ago, MexaWrestling mentioned in a Facebook post that this show will not be taped by anyone, including themselves. LuchaMemes also shot down an idea this would broadcast on Twitch. They are 100% doing it as a hard sell for the tickets – you have to be there, you can’t assume you’ll be able to find it on Face or YouTube. It is a hard concept to sell; anyone who is able but unwilling to pay for a show is still going to assume there will be a video of it until the first show where it doesn’t turn up. At best, they’ll educate people for next time, but it won’t sell any tickets for this time. They’re probably going to sell out and it is going to have nothing to do with the recording ban.

MexaWrestling cited the Voices of Wrestling top matches of the year list as a promotional bit today. They noted they and Lucha Memes had two matches on the 2018 list and said they expect three matches to make it on the list this year. That probably won’t happen if they’re serious about this show not being recorded. The voting panel changes every year, but I’m thinking maybe two people from last year’s group will be in Arena Naucalpan for this show. It took two really high votes for a match to crack the top 100 this past year, so either those two people have to love the show more than anything else they watch or MexaWrestling & Memes will be out of luck.

The VOW top 100 list isn’t the be all, but take a look at that top 10. There were six matches from NJPW, which almost none of the panel saw live and instead paid a subscription fee to watch. There were two matches from NXT, which most of the panel didn’t see live and instead paid a subscription fee to watch. There were one match each from Big Japan Pro Wrestling and Ireland’s Over The Top, both of which have about the same crowds as Lucha Memes & MexaWrestling will have for 05/01, and both have subscriptions services. The industry standard is everything is available behind a paywall, everywhere but Mexico. As a fan, I want to see these matches and most of some janky phone from the third row. As a person who follows the business, it seems insane that people in Mexico are passing up a revenue stream that is working in every other country that has wrestling out what seems like pure stubbornness.

This is the same thing as with The Crash the other day when I was literally offering them real money for putting up their show and the closest I got was Bestia 666 saying it was a good idea. I’m not flying to Tijuana for this one but I’d rather give the airline money to The Crash directly if they gave me a choice, and they don’t even give me that choice. This is maddening.

I don’t know if the market for pay lucha libre content is nearly as big as other markets – don’t think DTU did much on their one try on iPPV, I do know RIOT cashed a payment off their Pivotshare – but I also think that’s because it took years for other places to develop their market to the point where it can be a big deal and no one’s really tried that long in Mexico. Maybe there’s a reason no one’s tried.  Maybe there’s some great revenue split going with +LuchaTV that we will never understand but is making everyone happy. Otherwise, I don’t understand this.

I think this all hits me personally because part of the goal of this blog is to bridge the gap between lucha libre and the people, make it easier for people to watch and follow, and now this is a point where people really want to follow and the promotions have decided to respond by throwing a big barrier in the way. I feel like I’m pounding my head into the same wall over and over. Sometimes, it may just be better to move on.

(PS 1: They probably should announce the alternate for when Steve Pain can’t make it. No offense to Mr. Pain, it just seems like a 50/50 bet most of the time.)

(PS 2: I’m going to go with the idea that the reason the draft happened was just a way to announce people on the card before announcing matches and then think no more of it.)

05/04 The Crash

Feels like at least one title change is happening.

RIOT 05/04 (Chicles) in Arena LLF

05/19 ChilangaMask 6th Anniversary show in Coliseo Coacalco

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Segunda Caida experienced Volador versus Low-Ki.