Naito & Los Ingobernables humiliate tecnicos, Cavernario still champ, CMLL title matches this weekend

CMLL (FRI) 03/29/2019 Arena México [CMLL, ESTOLost in LuchaLucha CentralMarcaOvacionesthecubsfanYahoo!]
1) Akuma & Disturbio b Pegasso & Stigma LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 29 DE MARZO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:22. Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Drone b Kawato San, Tiger, Virus LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 29 DE MARZO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:27. Tecnicos took 1/3.
3) Felino, Rey Bucanero, Templario b Esfinge, Flyer, Tritón LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 29 DE MARZO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:57. Rudos took 1/3.
4) Dragón Lee, Místico, Titán b Cuatrero, Negro Casas, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 29 DE MARZO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:29. Tecnicos took 2/3.
20:57. Cavernario won falls 2/3 for his first defense.
6) Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. DQ Naito, Rush, Terrible [Relevos IncreíblesLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 29 DE MARZO DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
10:18. Naito stopping by on the way to MSG (and Costa Rica.) Tecnicos took straight falls, the second by DQ when Rush fouled Volador. Ingobernables left Caristico and Valiente unmasked as well.

The Los Ingobernables CMLL promo features Naito talking in Japanese for about 20 seconds and Rush & Terrible admitting they had no idea what he just said. Barbaro Cavernario talks about his win. Titan, Dragon Lee and Mistico is this week’s tecnico trio who believes they should keep teaming going forward and challenge for titles who actually will not team up again for three months.

This was a much better show than last week even with the title match not being quite as good as hope. Forastero underwhelmed in a singles match, or at least reminded us that the NGD guys are still young and relatively inexperienced with areas to improve. Effort in the first three matches seemed up, with a general idea that NJPW eyes might be watching. The guys in the top half of the card probably already feel good about their chances of going to Japan but there are always a few bottom rung FantasticaMania spots that a lot of people are hoping to get.

Naito was the CMLL luchador taking photos with fans at Arena Mexico before the show. That’ll cost slightly more next week.

CMLL has two title matches this weekend. Templario challenges Soberano for the Mexican Welterweight Championship on Arena Coliseo’s 76th Anniversary show. Shockercito defends his CMLL Minis Estrellas Championship against forever rival Pierrothito on Sunday’s Arena Mexico show. This is Shockercito’s fifth defense and second against Pierrothito, who he beat to win the title. Neither match is expected to have a title change or be uploaded on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

Pirata Morgan will have a 40 year anniversary show in Arena Neza this SundaySuperLuchas interviews him, where Pirata explains the “mejor luchador del mundo” nickname was given to him in 1984 on an Arena Mexico show and he feels that still counts. The two matches people still talk to him about are his hair matches with El Faraon and Vampiro. He’s planning on doing a retirement tour when he’s 60, in three years. He says he imagines doing it like Perro Aguayo did, which means he could still be wrestling when he’s 65.

Other indie shows which may turn up include the debut of the Pro Wrestling Resurrecion on Saturday in Arena Lopez Mateos. The new main event is scheduled to be Ricky Marvin & Super Crazy vs Cuervo & Scoria vs Fantasma & Dos Caras Junior. It was originally a submission match, not sure if still is, not sure why it ever was with those people. Lucha Memes is back on Sunday in Coacalco with the Demus versus Gato de Ecatepec hair versus mask match, where there will be blood. Gato is locally popular but I will be sad if Demus loses to him. Virus versus Flamita, Super Crazy vs Aeroboy, Arez vs Ricky Marvin and Aramis vs Negro Casas are on the card, which figures to turn up on +LuchaTV in a month. Guess there’s a chance the Black Mask show in Tulancingo could turn up too, +Lucha sometimes mentions their results. That has an Aeroboy/Arez match. IWRG has Hijo del Canis Lupus vs Hijo de Medico Asesino title match, and also new tag champs Aramis & Imposible teaming with Ciclon Ramirez against Dragon Bane, Eterno and Golden Magic.

Thursday’s AAA show in Toluca is said to have drawn around 3,000 people. The Myztezyz Jr, Hijo del Vikingo y Drago vs Carta Brava Jr, Mocho Cota Jr and Tito Santana match was said to be pretty good.

This happened at the Arena Big Punch show in Tijuana last night, which sounds like it was a good show.

Lucha Central has TV ratings for CMLL & AAA this past week. CMLL drew 1.1 million viewers, about where it has been the last two weeks of known numbers. AAA drew 3.3 million viewers. They had 4.4 million two weeks ago, so about 25% of their audience has disappeared over that time. It’s still three times as much as CMLL gets but that’s not a good trend.

YouTube took down RobViper’s channel. He’s not sure what video got copyright strikes; YouTube still hasn’t notified him. When luchablog got similarly killed, it was the Brazil company which owned Terra who issued all the strikes in short order. Best guess is it’s a music violation, but there’s usually no strikes for that. The big problem for us is we lose all those music videos. The big problem for Rob is he had hundreds of subscriptions to obscure channels. If you have obscure lucha libre YouTube channel recommendations, he could use them.

AAA put up the Juventud Guerrera versus Rey Mysterio Jr. TripleMania IV match with each man’s car on the line. That’s a stipulation that should be brought back.

Leon Chino Negro and Monterrey’s Estudiante have passed away in recent days according to Box Y Lucha. Leon Chino had a distinctive mask and is known as one of Hijo del Santo’s mask victories.

Monclova’s Deja Vu lost his mask in a ruleta de la muerte on Thursday in Arena Tigre Padilla to local Black Metal. He is Genario Sanchez, 25, brother of Baby Rap.

An interview with long term San Luis Potosi luchador Break Demon.


CMLL (FRI) 04/05/2019 Arena México
1) Magnus & Robin vs Metálico & Sangre Azteca
2) La Jarochita, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany
3) Audaz, Flyer, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
4) Hechicero vs Felino [lightning]
5) Atlantis, Atlantis Jr., Místico vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas
6) Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Gilbert el Boricua, La Bestia Del Ring, Terrible

This is not strong. I think I’ll be ok missing this live.

The main event feels like CMLL forgot Rush was going to be in New York and just threw La Bestia in his spot instead of rebooking the card.

Semi-main is Atlantis Jr.’s first appearance on a streaming show since February 11th. He did miss a couple of weeks entirely, so maybe there was a minor injury. Cavernario is back here after facing Dragon Lee on Thursday (so don’t expect him to be a MSG surprise.)

Hechicero wrestling on a Friday night means Televisa is out a commentator. Shocker would probably be the replacement if he was around. Maybe Rey Bucanero? Maybe Estrellita?

No Kaho so the finish last week with her and Amapola is just random.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-03-29

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Recapped: 03/30/2019


Akuma & Disturbio beat Pegasso & Stigma
Pegasso & Stigma beat Akuma & Disturbio
(13:22 [6:04, 3:21, 3:57], 2/3, ok, 00:01:40)

Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Drone beat Kawato San, Tiger, Virus
(12:27 [5:43, 3:02, 3:42], 1/3, good, 00:22:22)

Felino, Rey Bucanero, Templario beat Esfinge, Flyer, Tritón
(13:57 [5:05, 2:46, 6:06], 1/3, ok, 00:44:53)

Dragón Lee, Místico, Titán beat Cuatrero, Negro Casas, Sansón
(14:29 [3:55, 2:39, 7:55], 2/3, good, 01:09:35)

Cavernario © beat Forastero to retain Mexican National Light Heavyweight Championship
(20:57, 2/3, good, 01:37:17)

  1. Forastero triangle armbar (2:27)
  2. Cavernario plancha neanderthal (2:48)
  3. Cavernario cavernaria (15:42)

Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. beat Naito, Rush, Terrible in a relevos increíbles match
(10:18 [5:00, 5:18], 1/2 DQ, ok, 02:08:16)

What happened:

Rush fouled Volador for the straight fall loss, then Los Ingobernables unmasked Carístico & Valiente.


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The main event was fun in an exhibition fashion, with Naito having fun hanging out with Terrible & Rush when not getting crushed by a Valiente tope. He was into the spirit of things and did more than his partners. Rush seemed pleased with himself on the foul (and the stealing of Bandido’s bit) but was more into posing then coming close on dropkicks. Carístico was good, everyone else was just kind of there. This feels better than last year’s version but it is also only notable for Naito’s cameo.

So. About the title match. Cavernario is very good and the CMLL crowd loved him in this match. Cavernario’s eagerness to throw himself in and out of the ring made this match what it was. Cavernario hit all the big highspots from his match with Titan a month ago and played off last week’s finish, and this still wasn’t close to that match. Forastero just couldn’t put together much of anything compelling in this match, didn’t show the presence of his cousins in big matches. Forastero was just a guy who occasionally doing moves at a slow pace. The first two falls of not much didn’t help, but there was a lack of aggression and urgency here. A rudo/rudo match and a challenger who didn’t have much of a chance to win made this an uphill challenge but Forastero didn’t really rise to the challenge. Anyone else could’ve been put in his spot to get largely the same match.

It is so great to have Negro Casas back. The fourth match reminded me how Casas had a career making matches with Dragon Lee and Titan and probably could have one with Místico if they ever put him in a big singles match. He had the best sequences with each guy here, even if most of the ones with Místico were owning him. I think he and Dragon Lee would put each other out for a month if they had that singles match now but I still want to see it. NGD were OK if only really impressive when powerbombing the técnicos in the first fall, but they were good at being in the right spots for Dragon Lee & Mistico’s big headscissors. I only really liked the third fall but I really liked it a lot and it was much more than I was expecting.

Naito hit by microbus

The técnicos had a lot of ideas for group spots – there’s enough here that you could see Flyer replacing Titan in the trio, though that would also come with them moving down the cards – but it didn’t really come together as an interesting match. Tossing Flyer outside the ring to pull him back in for the finish was also weird and a flat way to end the match. Templario wasn’t bad but he’s had stronger appearances. Rey Bucanero did a piledriver on the apron for no reason.

The extra energy shown by both sides made a difference in the segunda. The técnicos were throwing themselves into moves and the rudos looked better than usual. I think the only one who wasn’t trying to do something crazy was Mije (so hopefully he’s the one who goes to Japan.) Black Panther’s tope at the end looked good. Kawato didn’t have anything seriously go wrong, always a small victory.

The opener was depressing in an unusual way for CMLL opener. They were definitely trying to have a good match, it was just not really happening for them. Stigma and Akuma just weren’t all that tight with the big spots they were doing. Akuma took a big bump to the floor of a headscissors that wasn’t much around the head. Disturbio and Pegasso didn’t actually do all that much. I’m not sure they’re capable of having a better match than this.