bad CMLL show leading into H2L, CMLL on Televisa this afternoon

Bestia almost hits his son

CMLL (FRI) 03/08/2019 Arena México [CMLL, ESTOLucha CentralMarcaOvacionesRecordThe Gladiatoresthecubsfan]
1) Nitro & Sangre Azteca b Oro Jr. & Stigma LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE MARZO  DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:30. Rudos took 1/3.
2) Kawato San, Tiger, Virus b Fuego, Rey Cometa, Star Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE MARZO  DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:25. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Esfinge, Titán, Tritón b Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE MARZO  DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
10:27. Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) Atlantis, Dragón Lee, Valiente b Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE MARZO  DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:13. Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Diamante Azul b Gilbert el Boricua LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE MARZO  DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:12. Azul took 2/3, the last by DQ when Gilbert unmasked him.
6) Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Niebla Roja DQ La Bestia Del Ring, Rush, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE MARZO  DE 2019 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
8:52. Straight falls, the last when Bestia was eliminated but came back into attack Niebla Roja.

CMLL promos: Titan & Esfinge, Diamante Azul, Gilbert, Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja, and Terrible & La Bestia del RIng.

Press room: Niebla Roja & Angel de Oro (Box y Lucha, The Gladiatores), Los Ingobernables, Diamante Azul, and Gilbert.

This show wasn’t any good. Next week’s main event was set up in a logical way but the heat just isn’t there right now. Gilbert/Diamante was about as good as expected and only works if you’re really impressed by big men moving slowly. The undercard had less life than usual. It was one of the weaker CMLL cards of the year – of any day of the week – and an unfortunate choice to be CMLL’s first show back on Televisa.

That Televisa broadcast starts today at 4 pm. It is not with the usual CMLL announcers. There was a separate Televisa broadcast position at the arena with their own announce crew: Leonardo Riano, Fernando Jesus Torres, Gaby Fernandez de Lara, and Hechicero. Riano was part of the CMLL crew when they were last on Televisa. Both he and Torres worked on AAA broadcasts last year. Hechicero has done CMLL broadcasts, though making him a full-time Friday announcer would rob CMLL of one of their good rudos at a time where they don’t have many. Fernandez is a woman so, by apparent television sports law, she’s the sideline interviewer.

There was no mention of the Televisa show during the Marca broadcast and there was little actual visual change. Maybe the lights were a little brighter and there were more spotlights, but it was nothing dramatic. Cometa’s new gear was the only sign someone thought this was a big deal.

This announcing change follows the airing change – a different time slot, airing the show the day after instead of a week later – also made after the original announcement. This is total speculation, but my guess is the people at the top of Televisa originally pushed the sports department to offer whatever it took to make a deal with CMLL. Then, as soon as those people at the top were satisfied enough to stop paying attention, the Televisa Deportes department modified the deal to match up with how they like to do business like having control of the announcing. But that’s just a guess.

LA Park told a fan he will return to Arena Puebla on 03/18, a week from Monday. LA Park hasn’t been in CMLL since last November.

Amapola & La Comandante talked about their struggles against sexism to get into lucha libre. In honor of International Women’s Day, CMLL had no women besides the edecanes on their show. Women were on AAA’s broadcast on Azteca, but the main role was Lady Maravilla seducing Nino Hamburguesa into a loss.

Dr. Wagner Jr. told Record that he will have to consider retiring should he lose to Blue Demon at TripleMania. This reads more like hype to sell the importance of the match rather than a real outcome.

Black Taurus says he’s going to try to do the impossible, retire Mil Mascaras, this Sunday. Taurus & Negro Navarro are scheduled to face Mil Mascaras & Mascara Sagrada, though Mil missed his match last week.

Lucha Talk has a new episode.

Criterio Hidalgo interviews ex-DTU wrestler Devitt Rodriguez.


CMLL (FRI) 03/15/2019 Arena México
Homenaje a Dos Leyendas 2019 (Salvador Lutteroth & Blue Demon)
1) Audaz, Esfinge, Tritón vs Hijo del Villano III, Pólvora, Vangellys
Audaz replaced Titan (moved up) on 02/27.
2) Átomo, El Gallito, Microman vs Chamuel, Mije, Zacarias el Perico
3) Diamante Azul, Soberano Jr., Titán vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Templario
Diamante Azul & Titan replaced Caristico & Dragon Lee (moved up) on 2/27
4) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón vs Bárbaro Cavernario, Gilbert el Boricua, Negro Casas
5) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero © vs Carístico, Dragón Lee, Volador Jr. [CMLL TRIOS]
2nd defense. King Phoenix & Penta were pulled from the show on 02/27, replaced by Dragon Lee & Caristico.
6) Ángel de Oro & Niebla Roja vs La Bestia Del Ring & Terrible [hair]

Nothing changed since last time. Outside the trios titles, it’s a card full of matches which would be promising if not for one guy.

There’s no word on this streaming as normal or airing on iPPV. They waited until late to announce it last time and I would expect no difference. It’d be a hard show to recommend for a significant price, and harder still when the last show was a streaming disaster that went unaddressed by anyone involved.

CMLL on Marca: 2019-03-08

no pasa nada

Recapped: 03/08/2019


Nitro & Sangre Azteca beat Oro Jr. & Stigma
(12:30 [6:22, 2:46, 3:22], 1/3, below average, 00:01:08)

Kawato San, Tiger, Virus beat Fuego, Rey Cometa, Star Jr.
(12:25 [4:04, 4:08, 4:13], 2/3, ok, 00:22:03)

Esfinge, Titán, Tritón beat Rey Bucanero, Universo 2000, Vangellys
(10:27 [4:14, 2:43, 3:30], 2/3, ok, 00:45:34)

Atlantis, Dragón Lee, Valiente beat Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
(13:13 [4:10, 3:40, 5:23], 2/3, ok, 01:08:50)

Diamante Azul beat Gilbert el Boricua
(13:12, 2/3 DQ, below average, 01:32:24)

  1. Gilbert spear (2:34)

  2. Diamante Azul powerbomb (3:11)

  3. DQ Gilbert mask pull (7:27)

Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Niebla Roja beat La Bestia Del Ring, Rush, Terrible
(8:52 [1:28, 7:24], 1/2 DQ, ok, 01:53:35)

What happened:

here is an Oro highlight

Bestia was eliminated in the main event, then came back into hit Niebla Roja with a belt to break up his pin. He also almost hit Rush with the belt, thinking he was Angel de Oro coming in the ring.

Forastero replaced Shocker. Triton suffered a head/arm injury on a huracanrana late.


This was an easily skippable show, no different than the Monday & Tuesdays shows often are. If you’re reading this to find out what you should go back and watch, you shouldn’t really go back and watch anything.

The main event didn’t have the intensity you’d expect out of the week leading into a big double hair match. Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja tried harder, but it never felt like a big deal. Terrible & La Bestia making a point of not reacting to Caristico’s handspring double back elbow was weird. Carístico was not really into this most of the way.


Gilbert & Diamante was a plodding largely unimpressive match. They seemed to really struggle in the second fall finishing sequence. The rest of the match was the normal Diamante Azul moves at a slower pace than usual. It felt much longer than it was because of that slow pace, and because the crowd didn’t care about much of it. They got into reacting for the near falls and not much more. This would be a good feud to get away from but the finish suggests they want to do more.

The fourth match was probably just average on a normal day but had more life in the third fall than anything that happened earlier. Dragon Lee was fired up in the third fall and it brought the match to a higher level. Atlantis looked solid even if he doesn’t move an inch from the center of the ring most of the time, and the rudos were solid as opponents.

The tercera was about as good as it looked on paper, with the técnicos showing some offense but not at top speed because of what whom they were working against. Titan had the good sense to not try the tricky cradle with Bucanero, who would’ve struggled to go with it. Universo 2000 Jr. is not a noticeable improvement over Shocker.

The segunda had less energy than the usual CMLL midcard special. Rey Cometa seemed interested enough to break out a new Ghost look, but the speed and the level of the action weren’t much. And Cometa got pinned in the end, which is a lesson in not trying.

The opener was boring rather than actively bad in the first couple of falls. It found the expected level in the third fall, with mistimed bumps and Sangre Azteca either messing up his finish or choosing to do it wrong to harm Stigma. It was something to avoid either way.