CMLL Martes: 2018-11-20

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Recapped: 2018-11-22


Príncipe Diamante & Robin beat El Coyote & Grako
(12:13, 2/3, good, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Eléctrico, Pegasso, Stigma beat Cancerbero, Disturbio, Metálico
(11:18 [6:26, 4:52], 1/2 DQ, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLLgif: 3834

Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Tiger beat Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa
(12:22 [5:09, 1:49, 5:24], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Titán beat Flyer in a lightning match
(7:46, modified Titanics, good, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr. vs Felino, Hechicero, Universo 2000 Jr.
(11:23 [4:25, 2:49, 4:09], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cavernario, La Bestia Del Ring, Terrible beat Kráneo, Soberano Jr., Valiente
(14:36 [4:58, 3:13, 6:25], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

Nothing of importance happened.


Coyote buster

Titan/Flyer was the best Flyer performance in forever. Titan gave Flyer chances to do things, Flyer wisely did something other than clone Volador, and Titan sold big for him before beating him. Flyer was willing to get out his comfort zone and also willing to take a big tope to the back. This felt more like a Titan match in the big spots and the drama, but Flyer still gained from looking competitive in it.

The opener was good. I’m as shocked as you. Grako & Coyote were more steady in this match than recent Fridays while still keeping the match at a good pace. Robin & Principe Diamante often appear to be wrestler who want to do more than they’re allowed in this early matches and finally found people who will do it with them. The end of the third fall was a bit shaky but this was still fun.

new IWRG tag champs, boring Puebla show

Famalia Hip Hop Man

IWRG (SUN) 11/25/2018 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr), The Gladiatores]
1) Atomic Star & Death Metal b Ángel Estrada Jr. & Chef Benito
Atomico Star replaced Carnicero
2) Diablo Jr. & Picudo Jr. b Black Shadow II & Mexica
Diablo Jr. replaced Sairus.
3) Demetrio, Hip Hop Man, La Mosca b Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Pasion Kristal
4) Demonio Infernal & Eterno b Cerebro Negro & Dr. Cerebro
Eterno & Demonio Infernal replaced Lunatic Xtreme & Murcielago Plateado. Demonio Infernal defeated Cerebro Negro and challenged him for a title. Cerebro Negro said not yet. (They did remember he was Welterweight Championship.)
5) Alas de Acero & Dragón Bane b Aramis & Freelance
Three different referees got into an argument. Chuiquilin called Alas de Acero & Dragon Bane the winners, but got into a fight with Reyes Rosas & El Capu after. Black Terry broke it up. The luchadors suggested a four way match with a second’s hair on the line.
6) Karaoui, Sinn Bodhi, Zumbi b Hijo del Alebrije, Imposible, Toscano
Bodhi snuck in a foul on Imposible
7) Capo del Norte & Capo del Sur b Rokambole Jr. & Villano V Jr. © [IWRG IC TAG]
Capos win the titles, become the 33rd champions. Villanos fall on their first defense.

Main event looked very bloody with mask ripping. A zero defense title run is rare, even for strange IWRG, so maybe something else is happening. The finish of the fifth match does not read well but I suppose it’s a way to to get another big match out of those four without any one of them having to put a mask or Freelance’s limited hair on the line. (That’s sort of what titles are supposed to be for, but titles don’t mean that this week.)

Big show for me being right about IWRG titles though.

Nothing much happening in Arena Puebla after a big show last week. The Hijos del Infierno team up to take on Caristico, Volador, and Valiente. CMLL’s ignored the Volador/Caristico issues of late. Angel de Oro, Niebla Roja, and Soberano face the less than great trio of Terrible, Bestia del RIng and Dark Magic, though that sort of match went better than expected on Friday. Flyer, Kraneo, and Volcano take on Felino, Tiger, and Tyson la Bestia, who continues to exist for whatever reason. Black Tiger is a rudo with no turn, teaming with Malayo & Hijo del Signo against Arkalis, Super Astro and Tiger Rojo. The opener is about the same, with Astro, Centella Roja and Meyer taking on Espiritu Maligno, King Jaguar and Rey Apocalipsis.

The show will stream at 9 pm on CMLL’s YouTube.

Ovaciones has a story on the CMLL bodybuilding contest. It’s the first real public mention of the contest. The bodybuilding contest has been a big deal to CMLL internally for most of the last 14 years it has been held and been treated like a crowd spectacle in recent years. This year, CMLL has not hyped it or mentioned it nearly as much (if at all), and the only mentions of the contest were by those training to participate. I’m not sure if that’s a meaningful change or just a shift in priority to the shows they’re actually selling tickets for (since the bodybuilding contest has usually been free.) Either way, if CMLL does not start bringing it up during tonight’s show, then it probably isn’t streaming on Wednesday.

The Ovaciones article mentions the patron of the contest is Victor Flores Morales, who is the leader of the same train union that Marcela & Tyson La Bestia promoter on their gear. Arturo Beristain students are scheduled to do the tumbling exhibition before the show.

Esfinge, Mr. Cacao, and Tsubasa defeated Virus, Orochi and “Violent Jack” in CMLL’s recap of the main event of yesterday’s Fukumenmania show. Maligna & Tequila Saya beat Mistique & Giulia in the semi-main. The CMLL men should back in Mexico soon, the women are still a month off I think. Violento Jack is still wrestling for Freedoms and Miedo Extremo & Ciclope are headed back that way soon.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Box Y Lucha has a story from 1969 with El Santo demonstrated the special secret cangrejo chino hold he used to defeat Sugi Sito.

Comobia indie wrestlers talk about trying to bring back wrestling in the country. This past week’s WON mentioned AAA plans on returning to the country for two shows next year, though no date are mentioned.


CMLL (SUN) 12/02/2018 Arena México
1) Kaligua & Stukita vs Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia
2) Hijo del Signo, Nitro, Yago vs Akuma, Camorra, Espanto Jr.
3) Súper Astro Jr. vs Espíritu Negro [lightning]
4) Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr., Tritón vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Universo 2000 Jr.
5) Kráneo, Valiente, Volcano vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Vangellys
6) Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Niebla Roja vs Mephisto, Rey Bucanero, Shocker

Espiritu Negro has been in CMLL since 2014 and this would be his first singles match.

When this show happens, it’ll be 44 days since CMLL announced Stukita would be wrestling as Halcon Suriano Jr. going forward. He has not wrestled as that name in CMLL.

CMLL was never going to keep running the same exact tag match until Christmas or New Years or Three King’s Day or whenever this apuesta match is happening. Still, Nitro being added sticks out. It would be darkly entertaining for the leader of a union to end up being the one losing his mask in all of this.

AAA on Twitch: 2018-11-24

a good summary of the show

Recapped: 11/25/2018

This was a sponsored show for the Emperador cookies. The show took place from a fairly full Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera. Jesus Zuniga and Leo Riano were the announcers.

The usual music was replaced by generic music for reasons not explained. Also, “OGT” was never called by that name and did not wear that merchandise, which seemed like a sponsor request.


Hijo Del Vikingo & Máscara de Bronce beat Australian Suicide & Dave The Clown
(14:01, Vikingo & Bronce 450 splash Suicide & Dave, good, 
Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))

Gif: 4058/4243/4341/4443

Dinastía & Máscarita Sagrada beat Mini Histeria & Mini Psycho Clown
(8:18, Máscarita Sagrada small package Mini Psycho Clown, ok, 
Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)

Aerostar, Angelikal, Argenis vs Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana
(9:55, Aerostar frontcracker Carta Brava Jr., good, 
Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))

Guardián Emperador I, Guardián Emperador II, Psycho Clown beat Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly
(14:01, Guardian II legdrop Chessman, ok, 
Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))

What happened:

welcome back Mascara de Bronce

The Guardian Emperadors are masked wrestled representing the sponsor. The smaller Guardian (I) did a lot of cool springboards and revealed himself to be Golden Magic on twitter. The bigger Guardian did not do as much. The rudos have control about 12 minutes in when Máscarita Sagrada runs in, which appears to be totally legal. He helps them win and gets a Guardian mask post-match.

Chessman, with Averno & Super Fly, taunted Máscarita Sagrada after the match. Chessman teased press slamming Sagrada out of the ring, mimicking the commercial campaign that set up this show. This time, he ended up slapping and stomping Sagrada down.


This was a different show than usual for AAA. The main event was a bit more comedy and playing to the crowd for reactions than they’d do on a normal TV show, which there’s already a lot of. The match worked for the live crowd but a little bit dragged for me. The rudos were kind of taking it easy, which was the same for most people. Golden Emperador was the standout, and didn’t seem affected by his outfit.

Aerostar tries to pull off the CMLL apron headscissors, it doesn’t end well

Poder del Norte versus three técnicos was about what you’d expect, a decent amount of lying though nothing extraordinary. Angelikal stood out less than usual, with Aerostar doing the majority of the interesting spots for his side. The rudos were solid too, though it felt a little bit down effort-wise than usual from a normal TV taping. This was still interesting enough, though maybe not far away from the thrice-weekly CMLL midcard trios matches that I get bored with.

Like the other Máscarita Sagrada matches, this was one where he needed someone to help him out by carrying most of the action. Dinastia did so, making it better than some of the Lucha Capital matches but not really something worth watching. The rudos did what they could but he just can’t do much. I assume Sagrada is here because the sponsors specifically asked for him. It doesn’t make much sense otherwise.

They got more time for the opener they would for this on a regular show and it helped a bit. It gave the técnicos more of a chance to show off early. It was Was funny to see Suicide work the opening exchange with Bronce, Dave get in one knee to send Bronce, then tag out himself so Suicide could carry the load against Vikingo too. It was for the best. Dave wasn’t at his worst, but Suicide was definitely better. The rudos did offense and comedy when they were in control, and it built back up nicely for thee end. Mascara de Bronce looked as good as any of the guys who usually work openers in his first appearance in five months. I feel like there has to be a story behind him getting so completely shuffled out of the mix in the new regime, but maybe things will change again and he’ll be back part of it next year.

CMLL weekend results, AAA sponsor show, Cuervo

photo by CMLL

AAA TV , EMPERADOR (SAT) 11/24/2018 Gimnasio Olímpico Juan de la Barrera, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [AAA, Lucha CentralR de Rudo, thecubsfan]
1) Hijo Del Vikingo & Máscara de Bronce b Australian Suicide & Dave The Clown  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
14:01. Vikingo & Bronce beat Suicide & Dave via 450 splashes
2) Dinastía & Máscarita Sagrada b Mini Histeria & Mini Psycho Clown  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
8:17. Mascasrira Sagrada small packaged Mini Histeria
3) Aerostar, Angelikal, Argenis b Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
9:55, Aerostar beat Carta Brava with a springboard frontcracker.
4) Guardián Emperador I, Guardián Emperador II, Psycho Clown b Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch))
14:01. Guardian II pinned Super Fly with a legdrop and some help from Mascarita Sagrada.

The show was maybe a little bit better than you’d expect from a sponsor show. The finish played to the commerical and an earlier bit where Chessman and the rudos bullied Mascarita Sagrada. He got to be a Guardian at the end. The rest of it was house show level matches of varying effort. The opener was the best match, with the tercera a little bit behind.

AAA revealed a lineup for this week’s Lucha Capital with Fenix on it. No actual matches were announced, just names. After people (myself included) pointed out that wouldn’t be happening since Fenix is hurt, AAA deleted the poster from Facebook and Twitter. AAA did not delete the Guerra de Titanes post, which also still includes Fenix. I don’t think AAA’s figured out what they’re doing without Fenix, but that doesn’t mean they should be promoting him as still appearing when they know better.

Tip for people in charge: that Lucha Capital lineup included Murder Clown, who should not be wrestling again until the Wild Card show. He’s already had his second round match. Perhaps AAA had made out the three second-round lineups in advance at the same time, but that meant they still had half a week to realize they weren’t going to be correct after this past week’s card changed and no one cared enough to change it.

CMLL (SAT) 11/24/2018 Arena Coliseo [CMLL]
1) Cholo & Grako b Arkalis & Sonic
Rudos took 1/3. Grako replaced Apocalipsis.
2) La Seductora, Reina Isis, Tiffany b Avispa Dorada, La Guerrera, La Jarochita
Reina Isis replaced Metalica. Rudas took 2/3.
3) Sangre Azteca b Metálico [lightning]
money thrown in
4) Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado b Audaz, Rey Cometa, Tritón
5) Blue Panther Jr., Kráneo, Volcano b Hechicero, La Bestia Del Ring, Vangellys
Vangellys replaced Rey Bucanero. Tecnicos took 2/3.
6) Stuka Jr. © b Terrible [NWA LH]
First defense. Stuka took 2/3.

Stuka and Sangre Azteca talk about the wins. There was also a sponsored show going on in Arena Mexico but I haven’t put together any sort of lineup.

CMLL (SUN) 11/25/2018 Arena México [CMLL]
1) Pequeño Nitro, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito b Angelito, Fantasy, Kaligua
Rudos took 1/3.
2) Akuma & Camorra b Hijo del Signo & Yago
Straight falls. Signo & Yago were DQed in the first for excessive violence, then Akuma & Camorra cheated to beat them in the second.
3) Flyer b Tiger [lightning]
Flyer with a slight upset with a Spanish Fly.
4) Ángel de Oro, Blue Panther, Stuka Jr. b Dragón Rojo Jr., Hechicero, Pólvora
Tecnicos took 2/3.
5) Cuatrero, Forastero, Máscara Año 2000 b Atlantis, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr.
Mascara Ano 2000 replaced Rey Bucanero. Rudos took 1/3.
6) Diamante Azul, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Gran Guerrero, Terrible, Último Guerrero
tecnicos took 2/3.

Flyer talks about his win. No sign of last week’s show being posted yet. No strong apuesta challenges in the rudo feud, so they’re stringing it all the way to the holidays.

AAA will be running another AAA vs Elite show as a TV taping in Cuautitlan on Christmas Day. Only the date is announced so far. This would be the first known AAA TV taping on Christmas Day since 1995. Cuatitlan is an hour north of Mexico City, so at least it is not much of a travel day for the majority of the wrestlers that live in Mexico City. (And it is an ELITE show, so they could use more of their wrestlers and let any out of town wrestlers stay home.)

CMLL has run a big show on Christmas Day the last few years and streamed those shows, so there will likely be dueling streams. Maybe more if +Lucha is streaming a show, since there’s usually plenty to choose from on Christmas.

Facebook page Bates de Vibrano posted a photo of Cuervo awake and eating in the hospital, which is good news. Salina de la Renta says he’s been moved out of intensive care to a regular room.

The money RobViper collected was given to Cuervo’s family. There is a video of the money being handed to the family, I’ve seen it, but they asked for it to not be posted publicly.

There will be another benefit show for Cuervo next Saturday in Guadalajara.

Lucha Memes says their 12/09 show is moving from Arena San Juan Pantitlan to Coliseo Coacalco. They seem to be pointing the finger at Mexa Wrestling (though not by name.) Those two promotions have gone back and forth about talent allowed to work other shows and venues.

For their part, MexaWrestling suggests they were going to have Fenix on their 12/08 show as a surprise before he got a hurt and are trying to figure out what to do with his surprise opponent.

El Sol de Leon has an article on the show Sunday in Mexico City to celebrate the anniversary of women’s lucha libre in Mexico. They say it’s the 62th Anniversary. If you’re wondering where that number comes from, I’m not sure: they seem to be saying women’s lucha libre started with Irma Gonzalez, but it’s odd to consider the start of women’s wrestling a year after it got banned. Also, Gonzalez started in 1955, so it would seem to be the 63rd.

Three new luchadors were granted licenses in Torreon.

Cavernario wins Leyenda de Plata, Fenix out for rest of the year, AAA mystery show tonight on Twitch

Fenix ramp cutter

CMLL (FRI) 11/23/2018 Arena México [CMLL, ESTOLucha CentralMarca (Cavernario)Marca (Mascara)OvacionesR de Rudothecubsfan]
1) Akuma & Espanto Jr. b Oro Jr. & Súper Astro Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:39 Rudos took 1/3.
2) Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Fuego b Kawato San, Okumura, Universo 2000 Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:38. Tecnicos took 2/3.
3) Soberano Jr., Titán, Tritón b Dark Magic, Luciferno, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
9:37. Tecnicos won in straight falls clean.
4) Carístico, Místico, Volador Jr. b Ephesto, Mephisto, Penta 0M LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:11. Tecnicos took 1/3.
5) Cavernario b King Phoenix [Leyenda de PlataLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
20:26. Cavernario won the second fall when he moved out of the way of a Phoenix dive, then top rope splashed him. Phoenix was unable to beat the count. Cavernario submitted Phoenix to the cavernaria in the third. Phoenix was stretchered out, having suffered a groin injury. Cavernario was given the Leyenda de Plata plaque
6) Cuatrero, Forastero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Templario, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:10. Dinamtia took falls 1/3. UG tried to use the ropes to beat Mascara 2000 but was caught. Mascara did the same and got away with it. Mascara challenged UG to a hair match and UG accepted. Cien Caras appeared and joined commentary for the match.

The Mascara/Ultimo Guerrero challenges seemed like a thing done for fun and not to be taken too seriously.

CMLL has post-match promos from Barbaro Cavernario, Guerreros Laguneros, and Los Dinamtia. The big news from interviews is Templario is officially a Guerrero Lagunero now. I suspect it’ll be like the early days of Niebla Roja in the group, where he is associated with the group but still not teaming with them much.

The big missing thing is a promo from King Phoenix. Getting stretchered out and not showing up on social media tends to be a big sign, and he confirmed it this morning: he’s done for the year with a groin pull. Last night, people thought it was the second Cavernario splash, from the stage, where he got hurt. He seemed to be limping noticeably even setting up to the spot, and I think the dive to nowhere might have at least contributed. Either way, Fenix says in his statement (in the Spanish part, not the English) not to blame Cavernario for the injury and congratulates him for the win. Fans are/were accusing Cavernario of being unprofessional, but the missed dive appeared to be a planned spot.

The Fenix injury changes a lot of US plans – today, he was supposed to face Matt Sydal in AAW and I’ve got no idea what they’ll do on short notice there – and has obvious issues for AAA. Fenix was scheduled to defend the AAA Megachampionship against Brian Cage next Sunday. Cage getting a surprise win seemed very possible. If AAA was set on changing the title, then just stripping the title from Fenix and bringing in someone else to face Cage also seems very possible. Merging the Latin American and Heavyweight Championship also seems possible, but these are all possibilities. The thing most likely to happen is AAA not to explain the situation or update their lineup between now and next Sunday.

Fenix being injured also takes him out of the Lucha Capital tournament, where he had at least two more matches scheduled. After last week, the tournament already makes no sense, but it takes maybe the best guy in the tournament away from having matches. I guess it opens up a spot for Scarlett?

It is theoretically possible AAA will address some of this today because they have a special bonus live Twitch stream at Mexico City. The show is said to start at 7pm CT. We know none of the matches, only that there will be some interaction between Chessman and a sponsored character. I would keep your expectations in check for the show. I won’t be around for this one.

CMLL’s Friday lineup appears to now be coming out late Saturday evening. Last night’s show announced that it would be a legend’s show. Canek, Rayo de Jalisco, Villano IV, Trio Fantasia, Negro Navarro, Los Diabolicos, Solar and Fuerza Guerrera are said to be on the show. So is Jerry Estrada, who has not wrestled in Arena Mexico since 1992 (he jumped to AAA a couple months after it started.) The main event last night was good because they had young wrestlers mixed in and carrying most of the load. That does not seem what will happen next week and it will probably have some very trying matches as a result. It will be a show for people who do not care about how good the matches are. The lineup is below now.

A university in Neza is offering wrestling classes.


IWRG (SUN) 11/25/2018 Arena Naucalpan
1) Ángel Estrada Jr. & Chef Benito vs Carnicero & Death Metal
2) Black Shadow II & Mexica vs Picudo Jr. & Sairus
3) Black Dragón, Dinamic Black, Pasion Kristal vs Demetrio, Hip Hop Man, La Mosca
4) Cerebro Negro & Dr. Cerebro vs Lunatic Xtreme & Murciélago Plateado
5) Aramis & Freelance vs Alas de Acero & Dragón Bane
6) Hijo del Alebrije, Imposible, Toscano vs Karaoui, Sinn Bodhi, Zumbi
7) Rokambole Jr. & Villano V Jr. © vs Capo del Norte & Capo del Sur [IWRG IC TAG]
first defense

The fifth match looks like another good match in that run of matches.

CMLL (FRI) 11/30/2018 Arena México
1) Súper Muñeco, Súper Pinocho, Súper Ratón vs Gallego, Mr. Cóndor, Rocky Santana
2) Gallito, Guapito, Microman vs Chamuel, Mije, Perico Zakarías
3) Cavernario, Rush, Terrible vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
4) Felino, Mano Negra, Solar I vs Fuerza Guerrera, Jerry Estrada, Negro Navarro
5) Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero © vs Carístico, Místico, Volador Jr. [CMLL TRIOS]
first defense
6) Atlantis, Blue Panther, Rayo de Jalisco Jr. vs Canek, Máscara Año 2000, Villano IV

This is a little better than I figured. Semi-main has nothing setting it up but should be great. The Sky Team/Guerreros matches were all very good and Caristico should be able to replace Valiente fine. Ingobernables versus NGD could be interesting. Micros should be fun. So there’s some positive stuff

The main event will not be good at all. They built last night’s main event on limiting what Mascara 2000 had to do. There’s good chance he’ll have to carry much of the match for his side next week; he might be the second best wrestler in that match at this moment. The fourth match is positive for Octagon being excluded for Felino. I respect CMLL for refusing to recognize the Super Muneco/Super Pinocho feud.

CMLL on Marca: 2018-11-23 


Recapped: 2018-11-23


Akuma & Espanto Jr. beat Oro Jr. & Súper Astro Jr. 
(11:39 [5:38, 2:14, 3:47], 1/3, ok, 00:00:48)

Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Fuego beat Kawato San, Okumura, Universo 2000 Jr.
(12:38 [5:00, 2:31, 5:07], 2/3, ok, 00:19:45)

Soberano Jr., Titán, Tritón beat Dark Magic, Luciferno, Vangellys
(9:37 [4:54, 4:43], 1/2, ok, 00:41:58)

Carístico, Místico, Volador Jr. beat Ephesto, Mephisto, Penta 0M
(11:11 [3:09, 2:16, 5:46], 1/3, ok 01:01:24)

Cavernario beat King Phoenix to win CMLL’s Leyenda de Plata Tournament
(20:26, 2/3, excellent, 01:25:26)

  1. Phoenix Fire Driver (4:25)
  2. COR Phoenix (4:49)
  3. Cavernario cavernaria (11:12)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Templario, Último Guerrero
(11:10 [3:55, 2:26, 4:49], 1/3, good, 01:58:55 )

What happened: 

Fenix dive

Mascara Año 2000 wrestled in his mask for his 40th Anniversary match. Templario now has a color matching Guerreros outfit and was said to be an official member post-match. UG tried to use a rope grab to beat Mascara 2000, but Mascara escaped with help from the ref, and Mascara did the same to UG. Mascara challenged Último Guerrero a hair match after, and Guerrero seemed to agree.

Fenix dramatically landed on the floor after a Cavernario moved out of the way of a tope con giro. Cavernario splashed him, and Fenix was counted out to end the second fall. Cavernario later splashed Fenix from the stage in the third fall, which may have left Fenix injured (or maybe more injured.) Cavernario defeated Fenix on his second cavernaria though the finish came off strangely – Edgar didn’t indicate a submission immediately, rushing to break up the hold and then declaring Cavernario the winner. The doctor immediately checked on Phoenix with more concern than CMLL’s usual worked injury spots, and he was stretchered to the back as Cavernario was given the Leyenda de Plata.


Templario gets a little help

Mascara 2000 might have improbably had the best Anniversario match of the four this year. They had him do less than the legends in the other matches while picking his spots and giving him a suitable win. It worked fine because the other seven guys were having a strong match around them. The Dinamitas and Guerreros meshed better than in the recent Puebla run, and Templario looked great as the newest Lagunero. If CMLL had actual tag teams, he and Gran Guerrero should take the good chemistry they showed here and form a regular team. The kids provided a lot of action and Último Guerrero getting outsmarted at the end worked for the occasion. I do not think a Mascara 2000 versus Último Guerrero singles match would be a good idea, but this went well enough that they could talk some fans into it.

King Phoenix versus Cavernario was the CMLL house version of Toxin versus Fly Star. There was extreme violence by Arena Mexico standards, some very impressive and deadly moves that probably should not be done by right-thinking people. If you’re going to crash and burn on a tope con giro the floor, and maybe you shouldn’t, at least they made the most of it. They made Cavernario’s splashes memorable if also completely insane. Both men were more selling “broken” than “exhaustion” by the end, and it was very believable that they were broken. Most everything seemed to go how they wanted and it was pretty exciting in the end, though it did seem like the crowd was stronger into the last match than this one. I’d put this match about the same as level as the quality of the last, and hope they don’t try to top this for personal damage.

The fourth match didn’t come off well. Penta missed on catching Místico and then missed on a trip in the second fall. The comeback was off too, with wrestlers not taking a bump for Volador’s offense, probably because Penta had to go right into a spot with Carístico. Even the Mistica at the end didn’t go well. They had a lot that got over with the crowd I between that, but the match could’ve obviously gone better. It’s still a little frustrating on CMLL bringing in Penta to do nothing with him, but I’m about to give up on that.

pay attention Espanto

Titan’s team won in straight falls while also taking a lot of the match, which meant a lot of high points to the match and good action. The rudos did better basing for the técnicos than figured, with Dark Magic doing fine catching Triton’s dive and Vangellys moving around better this week. Luciferno worked very hard on his side to make the match worked and it was a borderline good match.

The second match was an average Panthers match. It was a little stronger in the third fall with near falls every fifteen seconds. It was a little weak in the first fall when Black Panther was trying to led Kawato thru some complicated mat work. This was crowd pleasing and quickly forgettable.

Super Astro has a sort of magical style, and that made the opener better than usual. He brings a bit more fun to these matches than most técnicos. Oro had a good springboard headscissors. The match was still sloppy, especially at the end of the first fall and the length set up to the Signo/Espanto spot on the outside.

Cuervo benefit show, Angel o Demonio speaks, Phoenix versus Cavernario tonight, AAA stream tomorrow

photo by Black Terry Jr.

PALL (THU) 11/22/2018 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)MedioTiempo]
1) Pentagoncito, Pequeño Warrior, Pierrothito b Mini Águila Solitaria, Pequeño Anibal, Pinochito Todos Unidos por el Cuervo de Puerto Rico, Arena Naucalpan | PALL (posted by +LuchaTV)
2) Divo Jr., Iron Kid, Tony Rivera b Danny Casas, Hausser, Súper Comando Todos Unidos por el Cuervo de Puerto Rico, Arena Naucalpan | PALL (posted by +LuchaTV)
3) Penta 0M, Puma King, Rey Fénix (LU) DDQ Eterno, Trauma I, Trauma II Todos Unidos por el Cuervo de Puerto Rico, Arena Naucalpan | PALL (posted by +LuchaTV)
Eterno wrestled in Cuervo’s gear. Trauma I & Penta did a double mask pull for the draw.
4) Blue Monsther, Demon Rocker, Tackle b Blue Monsther Jr., Divino Boy, Steel Dragón Todos Unidos por el Cuervo de Puerto Rico, Arena Naucalpan | PALL (posted by +LuchaTV)
5) Lady Pink, Rossy Moreno, Zeuxis b Baronessa, Keyra, Princesa Azul Todos Unidos por el Cuervo de Puerto Rico, Arena Naucalpan | PALL (posted by +LuchaTV)
6) Alas de Acero, Aramis, Freelance b Arez, Belial, Toxin Todos Unidos por el Cuervo de Puerto Rico, Arena Naucalpan | PALL (posted by +LuchaTV)
7) Carta Brava Jr. (IWL), Fantasma de la Ópera, Fuerza Guerrera, Shadow b Babe Fox, Cerebro Negro, El Divo, Olímpico Todos Unidos por el Cuervo de Puerto Rico, Arena Naucalpan | PALL (posted by +LuchaTV)
8) Demonio Infernal, Imposible, Machine Rocker b Aliado de Dios, Relámpago, Rokambole Jr. Todos Unidos por el Cuervo de Puerto Rico, Arena Naucalpan | PALL (posted by +LuchaTV)
9) Capo del Norte, Capo del Sur, Máscara Año 2000 Jr., Sinn Bodhi b Cíclope, Hijo De Dos Caras, Miedo Extremo, Villano V Jr. Todos Unidos por el Cuervo de Puerto Rico, Arena Naucalpan | PALL (posted by +LuchaTV)
10) Hijo de LA Park, LA Park, Sharly Rockstar, The Chris b Demus, Hechicero, Mr. Electro, Mr. Niebla Todos Unidos por el Cuervo de Puerto Rico, Arena Naucalpan | PALL (posted by +LuchaTV)

Last night’s Cuervo benefit show seemed like a big success. The building was as packed as I’ve ever seen it. Additional funds were raised through t-shirt sales and thru the Superchat on YouTube. I didn’t catch a final count for how much money was raised but it seemed like a strong turnout. There were more people who were there beyond who worked (Murder & Dave the Clown did an interview during teh show) and I may be missing matches before the stream started. Terry has photos of a Zumbido trios we didn’t see.

It was announced at the show that Cuervo will be out of the hospital in a week and it was said he’ll be able to return to the ring a year. I’m skeptical of that being accurate – it’s tough to believe we have any certainty of how/if he’ll recover from that serious of a head injury.

The Mexico State lucha libre commissioner says they’ll keep Angel o Demonio suspended as long as Cuervo is unable to wrestle. That interview seems to be before the one-year absence was announced, the official quoted suggests keeping Angel o Demonio out six months. I suspect this is going to last more like two months, and then he’ll slowly start getting put on cards again. But we’ll see.

Furia de Titanes announced Periko will replace Angel o Demonio on their 12/08 show. People had been questioning Furia de Titanes about using Angel o Demonio on the card for the last couple of days and they’d been unwilling to change the card. My hunch is those who contacted the venue might have caused them to make that change.

Angel o Demonio went on Facebook to do an interview about the reaction to his attack. Alfredo has a translation/recap on Twitter. Angel o Demonio is apologetic to Cuervo and remorseful about what happened for the first 15 minutes, then starts going after everyone who said bad things about him by telling bad things about them. (There are a lot of lessons from his interview, and one is “turn of Facebook comments on your video when you’re doing an apology speech”.)

Tonight’s CMLL show has the final (maybe) of the Leyenda de Plata tournament. Cavernario faces King Phoenix in a rematch of their June match, the high point of the Lucha Brothers CMLL run so far. Cavernario figures to get his win back tonight. The match looks so good that the outcome probably doesn’t matter either way.

This is the Mascara Año 2000 tribute show. He’ll team with his nephews against Ultimo Guerrero, Gran Guerrero, Euforia and Templario in the semi0main. CMLL held a press conference with Mascara 2000 and other members of his family to promote the show. In attendance were Cien Caras, Sanson, Cuatrero, Forastero, Universo 2000 Jr. and Hijo de Mascara 2000. Mascara 2000 called being honored and his family being part of it the best moment of his career. He says he’s motivated by teaming with his nephews to have a good match tonight.

Ephesto, Mephisto and Penta make an odd team against Caristico, Mistico, and Volador. That’s a match with a few dormant feuds and no expectation they’ll wake up. Esfinge is in Japan, working a Mr. Cacao show, so Titan & Triton team with Soberano instead. They take on Vangelys, Luciferno and Dark Magic. The Panther kids team with Fuego against Okumura, Kawato and Universo 2000 Junior. Oro & Super Astro are scheduled to face Akuma & Espanto in the opener. Espanto & Akuma are on opposite sides of the preliminary rudo feud, though I’d be surprised if that was brought up here. Oro was reported as being injured last Friday; it must have not been as serious as feared if he actually wrestles tonight.

The show will air on Marca and Facebook (Mexico only) at 8:30 pm. I’ll stream it on YouTube.

This article on Diamante Azul positions him as taking a gamble to leave his other job (in ecotourism – arranging horse rides for travelers) for lucha libre. They then quote the article as Azul saying his business had to close after the 2009 flu pandemic because travelers stopped coming. That’s a sad story, but it was less of a gamble when you don’t have a great career option.

Atlantis Jr. talks about going to the college in the morning, trains lucha libre in the afternoon.

AAA will have a bonus Twitch stream tomorrow at 7 pm from Mexico City. This is part of their Emperador sponsorship, with people playing the mobile game getting a free ticket to the show. No matches have been announced except OGT facing three of the Emperador Guardians (based off the commercials they’ve been using to hype this tie-in.)

AAA’s show on YouTube this week turns out to be the Toluca show from 09/21. That was a 6 match show but – like the Merida & Cancun shows – it appears they’re only airing one week. This is a decent idea at catching up, though that means more matches will be Twitch exclusive. They’ll have to cut at least two matches from Toluca. I’d guess the minis match and the LA Park match are not going to be included.

The Crash and China’s OWE hyped doing a talent exchange around CIMA & Tomahawk’s appearance in Tijuana around September. It is happening now: Torito Negro, Latigo, and Tiago are in China and listed on their 11/25 show.

The first poster I’ve seen for 2019 is Fuerza Guerrera Jr.’s new Asociacion Mexicana de Lucha Libre promotion running a show on 01/05. I think a 45-year-old wrestler who’s wrestled one match starting his own promotion and putting himself in the main event is a likely terrible idea and I’m curious how it would be permitted by the Mexico City lucha commission.

Lucha World has the latest Lucha Report and an obituary for Hombre Bala.

Lucha Talk has a new episode.

Puma King has a new video covering his recent trip to New York and his match with Caristico.

Wrestlers proposed new regulations in Pachuca to create a local lucha libre commission. Another story says Pachuca would be the 11th city to have its own commission and there are 400 wrestlers active in the area.

The 85 years of Lucha Libre will be presented in Tulancingo on 11/28.

Peru’s Imperio Lucha Libre says they’re getting on TV in 2019.


CMLL (TUE) 11/27/2018 Arena México
1) Kaligua & Shockercito vs Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro
2) Pegasso, Robin, Star Jr. vs Cancerbero, Metálico, Nitro
3) Lluvia, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Dalys, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
4) Blue Panther vs Dragón Rojo Jr. [lightning]
5) Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Hechicero, Templario, Vangellys
6) Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Niebla Roja vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero

Unless Blue Panther demanded to face Dragon Rojo, I’m not sure why there are meaningless Blue Panther singles matches happening.

I thought Stukita versus Kaligua was the end of Stukita in the minis division but it seems like it was more the introduction of Kaligua as a full-time mini. He’s gotten Stukita’s bookings.

CMLL (TUE) 11/27/2018 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Magnum, Principe Daniel, Vaquero Jr. vs Gran Kenut, León Blanco, Maléfico
2) Astral, Explosivo, Oro Jr. vs Disturbio, Espanto Jr., Guerrero de la Muerte
3) Drone, Fuego, Stigma vs Difunto, Kawato San, Okumura
4) Blue Panther, Kráneo, Volcano vs La Bestia Del Ring, Máscara Año 2000, Terrible
5) Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero

Nothing major here.

CMLL Puebla: 2018-11-19 

Dalys side slam

Recapped: 2018-11-20


Black Tiger & Rey Apocalipsis beat Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja
(12:43 [6:02, 3:36, 3:05], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Pegasso & Tigre Rojo Jr. beat Metálico & Toro Bill Jr.
(12:14 [6:44, 4:10, 1:20], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Dragón Rojo Jr., El Malayo, Pólvora beat Drone, Fuego, Stigma 
(13:38 [5:50, 5:33, 2:15], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Marcela beat Dalys © for the CMLL World Women’s Championship
(8:05, 2/3, good, VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Dalys double wristlock bodyscissors cradle (2:36)

  2. Marcela tapatia (1:21)

  3. Marcela Michinoku Driver (4:08)

Atlantis, Octagón, Stuka Jr. beat Ephesto, Fuerza Guerrera, Mephisto
(10:33 [2:51, 2:52, 4:50], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Último Guerrero © beat Sansón to retain the CMLL World Heavyweight Championship
(17:13, 1/3, good, VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Último Guerrero Pulpo Guerrero (4:57)

  2. Sansón torture rack powerbomb (2:23)

  3. Último Guerrero Special (9:53)

What happened: 

Dalys, who usually wears not much, is wearing a full skeleton outfit for this match for some reason.

Hombre Bala was remembered before the third match.


this remains a bridging suplex blog

Último Guerrero defended his title in the usual fashion. He was overtly the técnico here, instead of just going for cheers anyway while rudo. Tirantes spent the match slow counting him to make sure the crowd knew to cheer for, bu the action itself didn’t change. UG checked off his usual moves and Sansón dutiful went for a moonsault. Sanson’s spots were stuck in the usual breaks between UG’s moves. UG was willing to take everything and Sanson’s power spots looked more impressive against a bigger man. The standing and striking stuff seemed slower than usual.

The women’s title match went just over eight minutes, a stunningly short time for any title match. It’s even more jarring for regular opponents and the end of a long reign. They made the use of the time, hitting their key spots, but it was shocking when it ended so quick. Not everything needs to go thirty minutes and they had a good pace through it, so it was good if not what I was expecting.

great match roundup, week of 2018-11-10


shows watched.

I’m all caught up on Mexa Wrestling! (They haven’t run a show since that one.)

A lot of blah sutff. A lot of stuff that was skippable. Fenix saving the day at the top of the list.

Recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Golden Magic vs Fénix Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa) Lucha Capital: 2018-11-14 2018-11-14
great Volador Jr. vs Cavernario & King PhoenixTitánFlyerMísticoSoberano Jr.TritónEl AudazDragón Rojo Jr.FelinoVirusMephistoTemplarioKawato SanTiger in a CMLL’s Leyenda de Plata Tournament match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 16 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-11-16 2018-11-16
good Arcángel Divino, Dinastía, Dragón Bane vs Lanzelot, Parka Negra, Toxin  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2018-11-10 2018-11-10
good Angelikal, Hijo Del Vikingo, Laredo Kid vs Carta Brava, Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2018-11-10 2018-11-10

Other matches

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Halcón 78 Jr., Solaris, Tromba (Estado de México) vs Mini Psycho Clown, Samoano, Tonga  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2018-11-10 2018-11-10
ok Aerostar, Niño Hamburguesa, Súper Fly vs Black Danger, Taurus, Último Maldito  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2018-11-10 2018-11-10
ok Joe Lider & Pagano vs Cíclope & Miedo Extremo  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2018-11-10 2018-11-10
ok Mamba, Máximo, Pimpinela Escarlata vs La Máscara, Rey Escorpión, Texano Jr.  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2018-11-10 2018-11-10
ok Dr. Wagner Jr., Drago, Psycho Clown vs Hijo del Fantasma, Jeff Jarrett, Kevin Kross  (posted by Lucha Libre AAA (Twitch)) AAA on Twitch: 2018-11-10 2018-11-10
ok Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 12 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-12 2018-11-12
ok Stukita vs Kaligua in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 13 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-13 2018-11-13
ok Black Panther, Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr. vs Kawato San, Misterioso Jr., Okumura LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 13 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-13 2018-11-13
ok Texano Jr. vs Niño Hamburguesa Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa) Lucha Capital: 2018-11-14 2018-11-14
ok Taya vs Australian Suicide Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa) Lucha Capital: 2018-11-14 2018-11-14
ok Amapola, Dalys, Tiffany vs La Guerrera, Lluvia, MarcelaLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 16 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-11-16 2018-11-16
ok Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Misterioso Jr., Okumura, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 16 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-11-16 2018-11-16
ok Carístico, Diamante Azul, Valiente vs Gran Guerrero, Penta 0M, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 16 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-11-16 2018-11-16
below average Keyra vs Máscarita Sagrada (original) Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa) Lucha Capital: 2018-11-14 2018-11-14
below average Astral & Eléctrico vs Espanto Jr. & Grako LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 16 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-11-16 2018-11-16
not rated Arkalis, Asturiano, Rey Samuray vs Gemelo Pantera I, Gemelo Pantera II, Perverso LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 12 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-12 2018-11-12
not rated Lluvia, Marcela, Skadi vs Dalys, La Comandante, TiffanyLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 12 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-12 2018-11-12
not rated Drone, Fuego, Pantera Blanca vs Máscara Año 2000, Tyson La Bestia, Universo 2000 Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 12 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-12 2018-11-12
not rated Atlantis, Felino, Stigma vs Ephesto, Fuerza Guerrera, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 12 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-12 2018-11-12
not rated Arkalis & Robin vs Apocalipsis & Inquisidor LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 13 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-13 2018-11-13
not rated Magnus, Oro Jr., Star Jr. vs Cancerbero, Espíritu Negro, Metálico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 13 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-13 2018-11-13
not rated Kráneo, Stuka Jr., Volcano vs Dark Magic, Ephesto, Hechicero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 13 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-13 2018-11-13
not rated Ángel de Oro, Atlantis, Niebla Roja vs Euforia, Rey Bucanero, Shocker LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 13 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-13 2018-11-13

lucha TV preview for weekend of November 23th, 2018

full size

Tougher to do a preview when a 1/3rd of the shows have no lineup announced. No AAA on Twitch show this week.

Cavernario versus King Phoenix is worth CMLL Marca night’s show by itself.

Hopefully I’ll remember to record CMLL Guadalajara so we can have another Diamante Azul vs Rush match in the video database.