CMLL Puebla: 2018-11-12

Drone tope

Recapped: 11/14/2018


Arkalis, Asturiano, Rey Samuray beat Gemelo Pantera I, Gemelo Pantera II, Perverso
(12:28 [5:45, 3:26, 3:17], 2/3, n/r, 

Lluvia, Marcela, Skadi beat Dalys, La Comandante, Tiffany
(11:08 [4:22, 2:06, 4:40], 2/3, n/r, 

Máscara Año 2000, Tyson La Bestia, Universo 2000 Jr. beat Drone, Fuego, Pantera Blanca
(16:12 [7:32, 2:16, 6:24], 1/3, n/r, 

Atlantis, Felino, Stigma beat Ephesto, Fuerza Guerrera, Mephisto
(12:16 [4:46, 2:08, 5:22], 2/3 DQ, n/r, 

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
(11:44 [6:20, 5:24], 1/2, ok, 

What happened:

getting better

Sansón beat Último Guerrero to set up a title match next week

Fuerza Guerrera fouled Atlantis for no real reason.

Marcela challenged Dalys to a title match after beating her two straight weeks.


The main event was a pretty solid victory for NGD, taking it clean in straight falls after having controlled the majority. It was an odd exhibition for some of both team’s spots – and kind of pointed out how weird that UG doesn’t really do the combo spots everyone else is doing. It never expanded past the simple set up of a Sanson/UG title match next week. The main event served a purpose more than the rest of the card, but you can still safely skip it.

Cuervo benefit show, Angel o Demonio suspended, Lucha Capital week 4


Cuervo & Angel o Demonio

Cuervo underwent surgery midday Tuesday. On his Facebook, it is said they successfully removed a blood clot from Cuervo’s head. Cuervo’s injuries are described as a skull fracture and an epidural hematoma. He was still in intensive care at last word and is expected to be hospitalized at least a week more before being transferred to a rehab facility.

Angel o Demonio spoke to Pasala, saying the same things he’s said on video and on Facebook: he meant to hit Cuervo in the back, not the head, and Cuervo just happened to stand up and the wrong time. This appears to me to be a lie. Cuervo is back to standing up when Angel o Demonio has the brick in hand, and that brick would’ve come nowhere near Cuervo’s back. Angel o Demonio also said Cuervo was not qualified to be in an extreme match. At no point is Angel o Demonio appear apologetic about or even bothered by almost killing another person.

A benefit show for Cuervo will be held tomorrow in Arena Naucalpan. Tickets are 100 pesos.

PALL (THU) 11/22/2018 Arena Naucalpan
1) Chris Stone Jr. & Juan Diego vs Estudiante Jr. & Psique
2) Aguilita Solitaria & Pinochito vs Carmelito & Súper Loco
3) Alas de Acero, Aramis, Freelance vs Belial, El Divo, Toxin
4) Danny Casas & Nieto De Huracán Ramírez vs Iron Kid & Tony Rivera
5) La Heroína & Zeuxis vs Keyra & Princesa Azul
6) Aliado de Dios, Relámpago, Rokambole Jr. vs Demonio Infernal, Eterno, Machine Rocker
7) Babe Fox, Cerebro Negro, Súper Pinocho vs Carta Brava Jr. (IWL), Fantasma de la Ópera, Shadow
8) Hijo De Dos Caras, Imposible, Villano V Jr. vs Capo del Norte, Capo del Sur, Sinn Bodhi
9) Hechicero, Mr. Niebla, Trauma I, Trauma II vs Hijo de LA Park, LA Park, Sharly Rockstar, The Chris

LA Park will main event and filmed a promo for the show. He’s been a big part of this behind the scenes. Penta is not on the card but has said he will be there.

If you would like to support this show, RobViper is accepting money thru Paypal that will be used to either buy tickets for the show (1 ticket is $5 USD) or be given directly to Cuervo’s family if possible. You can find more information here.

Tuesday afternoon, the Estado de Mexico lucha libre commission issued a statement. They announced Angel o Demonio was banned from wrestling in the state indefinitely and asked for other states to also uphold this suspension. The commission also wants to bring in Hector Guzman (owner of the arena) and Juan Morales Mejia (Lucha Libre Boom promoter Fantasma de la Opera) to find out why there was an extreme match on that show, claiming extreme matches are specifically not permitted in the state.

That last bit doesn’t hold water; extreme matches happen fairly frequently in Mexico State (seemingly because Mexico City itself won’t allow anyone but AAA to do them.) MedioTiempo’s report on the story says the commission had approved the lineup days prior, with Cuervo & Angel o Demonio in a casket match. Also, the regulations for the commission do not actually give them the power to suspend someone indefinitely. I’m all for not letting Angel o Demonio wrestle, but the statement was more about the commission trying to protect itself.

SuperLuchas points out that the commission statement says nothing about how they’re going to help Cuervo and does not ask the promoters involved to do so.

Hector Guzman offered his arena for a second benefit show in his own press release. The press release also mentions they’re taking no position for or against anyone involved in the incident. It’s surprisingly difficult for people in charge in Mexico to come out against a brick to the back of the head.

Ovaciones’ version of the story is that organizers of the show (Lucha Libre Boom, Lucha Memes) and IWRG’s Marco Moreno (as leader of PALL) took Cuervo to the hospital and paid for all his expenses. I do not believe that was correct; I heard of wrestlers working to raise money for his surgery yesterday. (Edit: Lucha Memes says they’re paying for everything.) If you recall DJZ’s injury situation (told on a Colt Cabana podcast ), Mexican doctors will usually not operate on a foreigner unless they’re paid in advance.

The Ovaciones story also mentions the doctor (Rafael Ugalde Rodriguez) actually refused to take Cuervo to the hospital and left the show early, as did the lucha libre commissioner. I’m unclear if the commission was ever actually at Arena Lopez Mateos that night.

Angel o Demonio has been announced for two upcoming shows. One is in the same Arena Lopez Mateos for the same Lucha Libre Boom on December 1st. The lineup for that show came out not long after the attack on Monday, so the card might have been done already and may be changing. Another is for a Furia de Titanes show in Mexico City’s Circo Volador on 12/08.  I suspect Angel o Demonio will not be working these shows while the heat is on, but I don’t know how long that’ll last.

CMLL (TUE) 11/20/2018 Arena México [CMLL, Lucha Central]
1) Príncipe Diamante & Robin b El Coyote & Grako LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Eléctrico, Pegasso, Stigma DQ Cancerbero, Disturbio, Metálico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Metalico replaced Raziel. Straight falls. Cancerbero replaced Pegasso.
3) Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Tiger b Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 2/3.
Pompin was the referee. This marked the start of his 61st year of being a referee.
5) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr. b Felino, Hechicero, Universo 2000 Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Universo 2000 Jr. replaced Rey Bucanero. Tecnicos took 1/3.
6) Cavernario, La Bestia Del Ring, Terrible b Kráneo, Soberano Jr., Valiente LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
rudos took 1/3.

Titan versus Flyer seems like it’s worth watching. The one promo is Titan talking about his win. I don’t think we should take Raziel as actually appearing on these cards until he’s also announced for the important show (CMLL Informa.)

Speaking of people who are probably not back until they appear on CMLL Informa, Dragon Lee officially left Exatlon last night due to a medical issue with one of his ears. (TV Azteca says Dragon Lee was in danger of losing his hearing if his ear came in contract with water or mud.) I wonder if having to wear a mask all the time during filming helps or hurts with that. You can see an emotional farewell to him from the show. His social accounts have been run by other people while he’s been on the show and I haven’t yet seen any sign that he’s back.

CMLL (TUE) 11/20/2018 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara [CMLL]
1) Avispón Negro Jr., Magnum, Mr. Samurai b Carlo Roggi, Guerrero de la Muerte, Mr. Apolo
tecnicos took 1/3.
2) Lluvia, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit b Amapola, Dalys, Reyna Isis
Tecnicos took 1/3
3) Black Panther, El Audaz, Esfinge b Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Templario
4) Carístico, Místico, Volador Jr. b Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
Tecnicos took 2/3
5) Rush b Diamante Azul
Rudos took 1/3, Rush fouling Diamante Azul to get the win. Rush hit the referee after.

This should air Saturday. I missed it last week but there’s another channel that’s sometimes streaming it.

Other News

Lucha Capital episode 4 is tonight. It’s the weakest card they’ve had so far. Mascarita Sagrada versus Killer Kross is not intended to be a good match and will likely not be one. Puma King and Pagano does not seem like a good mix. Neither does Vanilla and Hijo del Vikingo. Drago versus Keyra is the best chance for a good match, but it would also seem an odd mix on any other show. The show will air on Facebook at 8:30 pm and can be watched later. Lucha Capital has a preview.

AAA quietly posted the Guerra de Titanes in Aguascalientes lineup. There are no changes from what had been advertised locally. Scarlett is still in the title match, which either means they worked out whatever kept from appearing in Juarez or they just didn’t feel like updating the poster.

There will be 3000 copies of the Nueva Generacion Dinamita comic, which was unveiled yesterday They’ll cost 120 MXP ($6 USD) and they’re hoping to put out new comics covering wrestlers out every three months. El Grafico says the next would feature Angel de Oro, Niebla Roja, and Soberano Junior. The comics will be available at the four CMLL Arenas.

In this interview, King Phoenix seems to think the winner of his match with Cavernario faces Volador the following Friday. That would not make any sense but I can’t rule it out.

Lucha World has the latest news update.

A licensing exam will be held in Torreon this Saturday.

Box Y Lucha posted a 1969 article about murders in wrestling.

Andrade Almas promoted his 12/01 Mexico City appearance with WWE on what must’ve been a conference call. He said people in Mexico believe the Americans are not as prepared as the Mexicans, but he feels the big difference is the Americans are more defined as characters. This set of interviews must’ve been a while back because he talks about hoping to face Rey Mysterio someday and they had a match a couple of weeks ago.


CMLL (MON) 11/26/2018 Arena Puebla
1) Astro, Centella Roja, Meyer vs Espíritu Maligno, King Jaguar, Rey Apocalipsis
2) Arkalis, Súper Astro Jr., Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Black Tiger, El Malayo, Hijo del Signo
3) Flyer, Kráneo, Volcano vs Felino, Tiger, Tyson La Bestia
4) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. vs Dark Magic, La Bestia Del Ring, Terrible
5) Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto

Nothing interesting card. I guess Black Tiger turned rudo off screen? I have no idea why.

Mexa Wrestling: 2018-08-04 

seems like a sound idea

Recapped: 11/17-19/2018

This is sort of a catchup post. I’ll leave off the results in case you have not been spoiled on a three and a half old show.

All matches took place on Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México in 08/04/2018.


Mexa 20 person Mexa Rumble
(26:43, n/r, 

I don’t have much to stay on this one. I wasn’t planning on watching it until I remembered I could finally figure out the missing people from the results, and then I decided I might as well watch the show. (It was Ciclon Negro, Corsario Negro, and runner-up Fly Warrior.) What I watched of this match was a mess, overcrowded with people who wanted to be in for the Negro Casas spot at the end and left seconds later. Maybe jump to 20:15 to hear the big reaction when the crowd realizes Negro Casas is a surprise, and skip everything before and after.

Lady Maravilla vs Keyra
(9:52, good,

Keyra and Lady Maravilla had a strong exhibition of many of their bigger moves, though it never really collapsed into a match with any direction. The match just kind of went back and forth indiscriminately between the two women, with the suplexes and the kicks looking really sharp. The crowd was willing to support Keyra, but Maravilla wasn’t as strong a ruda as she’s been in AAA later. This was solidly good but the ceiling for their matches feels significantly higher. Maybe all the confetti and garbage on the mat threw them off a little bit. I know it really distracted me.

how are these people friends

The King (Rey Fenix) vs Titán
(10:52, good,

Fenix versus Titan was both good and also not close to the how good they could theoretically be on a different day. This was definitely a match worked like they had to save themselves for another match that not, with a lot of the usual highspots substituted out for even more chops. They had good chemistry in what they did and the problem here is mostly about not living about the expectations rather than doing something and failing. Fenix lost Titan on the finish, and maybe that can be fixed on a rematch.

Fenix coming thru

El Bandido & Flamita vs Eterno & Steve Pain
(15:02, good,

The Mexablood/Anarquia was a good exhibition of spots, but it seemed off. I think the pace wasn’t there. The moves looked good, but it felt slow in between them and the match didn’t have a great rhythm to it. It’s probably more the rudos there, since MexaBlood has zoomed along everywhere else, but it keep the match from getting a great rhythm. Everyone got to do a lot because they had so much time, but it felt more like guys just doing stuff rather than any direction they were going. Worth a watch but most MexaBlood matches since then have felt bigger.

two man pain cutter

Arez, Erick Ortiz, Mr. Iguana vs Aramis, Centurion, Látigo
(13:22, great,
CaritaJC LuchaLibre)

What Happened: Match is noticeably edited, though it seems like most of it the editing is cutting out breaks between moves.

Review: [great] The crowd wanted to hate this match, chanting for another match quickly. This was a show with extreme matches and big names and some of these guys aren’t well known to this crowd, at least this point. Aramis & Erick Ortiz would’ve gotten over with their work alone in front of a friendlier crowd, but it’s really the Arez & Latigo sequence which turns it around for them via some fancy holds and reversals. The action gets to so good from there, just packed with great looks pots. I would’ve loved to see a full version like shot on +Lucha, but this version has the prefect view of Aramis’ dive. Aramis Also pulls off the best version of the neckbreaker dive that’s become popular. They went a perfect length and finished strong. An easy recommendation.

Aramis coming at you

Tiger vs Metaleón
(10:03, good, 
Tortas Súper Astro y Sin Aflojar Videoblog)

Maybe a generous good grade. This was a suitable violent enough match for the rest of the show, with plenty of unnecessary chair shots to the head and such. The action was generally alright and the crowd as strongly into it. Metaleon hits a cool tope and Tiger is trying, but it’s not as interesting as the other matches, even the flawed ones. Not a bad match but not one you need to go out of your way to watch.

a long tope

Toxin vs Fly Star, mask vs mask
(35:36 seen, great, +LuchaTV)

What Happened: This is a three fall match. There are falls, but there is no break between the first and second fall. There is a break before the third fall, because both are too hurt to keep fighting, but there’s no real whistle to start the time. I’ve got the clock running, but dock 65 seconds if you want to be strict. There is an edit in the match as they go wandering around the second level to set up the balcony dive. The announcers disappear for several minutes following the edit.

Review: The Toxin/Fly Star match is the match of the year in terms of times something they did caused me to scream in horror and wonder what they were thinking. It’s a brutal messy match. The violence is embraced early on – you don’t dump thumbtacks on someone, then moonsault onto them unless you really like some blood – but it also never feels meaningless. Both Fly Star and Toxin look destroyed in the last few minutes of the match, only hanging on due to stubbornly want to give every bit of themselves to this match. It is very long as a result, though it never feels long just for length’s sake, just long because they have so much more they’re willing to do to each other. The match came across as an incredible scene live, helped a lot by the crowd (and the match) having a clear favorite. The finish comes off as a bit underwhelming considered all that’s come before it, but the crowd still reacts strong again. This didn’t immediately feel like a match of the year to me, but it did come off as an epic match.

this is fall 1