CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-11-06

Titan DDT

Recapped: 11/12/2018


Metálico & Nitro beat Magnus & Star Jr.
(14:03 [5:48, 4:48, 3:27], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Amapola, Metálica, Reyna Isis beat Avispa Dorada, La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit
(12:44 [5:29, 2:55, 4:20], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Kawato San, Okumura, Tiger beat Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa
(15:12 [4:42, 3:28, 7:02], 1/3, good, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cuatrero © beat Titán for the CMLL World Middleweight Championship
(20:24, 1/3, great, VideosOficialesCMLL)

  1. Cuatrero crucifix powerbomb (3:35)

  2. Titan bridging backslide (1:49)

  3. Cuatrero inverted bearhug (15:00)

Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. beat Dark Magic, Rey Bucanero, Shocker
(10:19 [4:33, 5:46], 1/2, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Diamante Azul, Místico, Stuka Jr. beat Mephisto, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero
(8:22 [1:50, 1:47, 4:45], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

Kawato catches a dive

Niebla Roja used the ropes to beat Rey Bucanero in straight falls after Rey Bucanero tried to do the same for him. The demons very politely wait for Rey Bucanero and Niebla Roja to make hair match challenges before dragging anyone to hell.

I got no sound when Metálico does his entrance, but I think it might be YouTube blocking the music rather than a CMLL mistake.


Sanson is too quick for Titan

This show had just another great Titan title match, mostly noticeable for Cuatrero showing he can do these sorts of matches without Angel de Oro being involved. They had big spots all the way thru, some convincing near ending and a well-timed finish. The one advantage Cuatrero has in these situations is a lot of his offense comes off as fresh or unexpected. Titan, getting used in these title matches far more often, was smart to add a few different spots and take some unexpected punishment. This is also one of those situations where otherwise irrelevant things like Titan using that figure four to win in other matches all the time making it more dramatic here (and more dramatic than people who just have one way to win.) Same thing goes for Cuatrero; he and his brother have made a silly hold into a credible big match finish. The Dia de Muertos lightning and effects didn’t really help this match, though it was amusing to see Micros going crazy for some moments. It would’ve been nicer to be able to see action in normal light.

The tercera was the special “NJPW officials are here, we better try a lot more than usual for a Tuesday” match. Kawato was the standout, looking like a totally fine professional wrestler in a way he hasn’t in the last ten months. He caught dives exactly like you’re supposed to (though Cometa didn’t do the same for him at the end.) Fuego & Maya were ok, and Cometa was working very hard and with everyone. Same goes for Tiger, especially in the long third fall.

Sanson versus Ultimo Guerrero tonight in Puebla, Imposible remains champ


IWRG (SUN) 11/18/2018 Arena Naucalpan [The Gladiatores, +LuchaTV]
1) Chef Benito & Juve Venegas b Guerrero 2000 & Power Bull
2) Black Dragón & Diablo Jr. b Pardux & Picudo Jr.
3) Ra-Zhata, Shil-Kha, Teelo b Leo, Mike, Rafy and Rayan, Spartan, Spector
Changed to a three way with the Comando Elite added.
4) Demonio Infernal, Hijo de Pirata Morgan, Lunatic Xtreme b Dinamic Black, Eragón, Pasion Kristal
5) Capo del Norte, Capo del Sur, Sinn Bodhi b Hijo del Alebrije, Rokambole Jr., Villano V Jr.
6) Imposible © b Eterno [IWRG IC MIDDLE]
First defense. Poster has it the welterweight title and it was still reported as the Welterweight championship.

Imposible is the Middleweight champion. He won in August. IWRG’s own website lists Imposible as the Middleweight championship. The poster called him welterweight championship. Both The Gladiatores & +LuchaTV reported it as the welterweight title after the match. +Lucha posted a photo of the belt, but I can’t make it the words on it. I have no idea what’s going on.

A lot of people on this show who haven’t been around lately. Did you know Comando Elite are still Mexico State trios champions? Maybe they’re not, who knows.

Arena Puebla has a bigger show than usual tonight. Tomorrow is officially Día de la Revolución in Mexico, which might be a reason for the bigger shows both yesterday and tonight. The 1910 revolution was about overthrowing an unjustly elected leader. Tonight’s Puebla show is about attempting to overthrow a couple of champions.

Sanson gets his first every chance at the heavyweight championship tonight, facing Ultimo Guerrero for his newly won championship. A title change with no defenses is unlikely, especially when it comes to Ultimo Guerrero, but it did just happen yesterday with Rush & Terrible. Sanson is coming off a strong singles match with Guerrero trainee Templario. It’s a little tougher to get an interesting match out of Guerrero, but it’ll definitely be solid.

The CMLL Women’s championship is also on the line on the show, in a much less unique matchup. Dalys & Marcela have faced many times. It’ll be fine. It like will be good. It’s also very stale. They haven’t done this specific title match since in a year, but these two women have essentially been feuding since late 2013, and are usually the focus of every CMLL women’s match. A title change is possible but wouldn’t seem to change that status quo.

Speaking of people who can’t stop wrestling each other, Fuerza Guerrera and Octagon are in to wrestle in the semi-main. Atlantis, Stuka, Ephesto, and Mephisto round out the match. A Fuerza/Atlantis issue was teased last week. Drone, Fuego, and Stigma face Polvora, Dragon Rojo and Malayo in the tercera, with Malayo again being the local rudo who gets moved up to a higher match. Pegasso & Tigre Rojo take on Metalico & Toro Bill. Centella Rojas face Rey Apocalispis and usual tecnico Black Tiger in the opener.

The show will air on CMLL’s YouTube channel at 9 pm.

Lucha Memes, Lucha Libre Boom and Generacion 21 also have a show in Arena Lopez Mateos. The LA Parks face the Caifans and the strange team of Hechicero & Masada on the hardcore themed show.

In an interview talking about his mask loss, Hijo del Fantasma said he’s not going to keep wearing it anyway as part of his presentation, “that would be totally ridiculous, not to criticize whoever does it, like Dr. Wagner.”

Lucha Mundial has highlights of Zona 23’s show in Mexico State in video and photos.

In an Arena Azteca Budokan cage match, Chamaco Davilla lost his hair and Shaman lost his mask. Shaman is Rogelio Francisco Moreno. Weird someone named Moreno lost their mask in the arena the Morenos run.

There will be a Santo exhibition in Tulancingo thru November 28.

AAA on Twitch: 2018-11-18

Vikingo craziness

Recapped: 11/18/2018

All matches aired from Gimnasio Municipal Josué Neri Santos, Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua


Mr. Alfa, Centinela, Villano III Jr. beat VIP, Syrus, Rey Puma
(6:15, Villano III headstand rope flip moonsault Syrus, ok, 00:17:16)

gif: 1741/2159

Lady Shani, Starfire, Vanilla beat Keyra, Lady Maravilla, Zafiro
(8:39, Lady Shani spinning Gori Special Lady Maravilla, ok, 00:33:38)

Angelikal, Hijo Del Vikingo, Laredo Kid beat Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Tito Santana
(8:57, Hijo del Vikingo reverse 450 splash Tito Santana, good, 01:10:56)

Joe Lider & Pagano beat Cíclope & Miedo Extremo
(13:44, Pagano Spanish Fly “thru” a table Ciclope, ok, 01:33:00)

La Máscara, Monsther Clown, Rey Escorpión beat Mamba, Máximo, Murder Clown
(9:25, La Mascara fouled Máximo, ok, 02:07:09)

Brian Cage, La Parka, Psycho Clown beat Blue Demon, Hijo del Fantasma, Texano Jr.
(11:04, Cage F5 Texano, ok, 02:29:28)

What happened:

one of the safer big spots in that match

After the second match, Psycho Clown & La Parka came out to complain about teaming with the traitor Blue Demon. They were interrupted by Konnan, Fantasma, and Texano. Fantasma also called Drago a midget and said he has no chance against him. Fantasma also said Cage would give him the title after he beat Fenix at Guerra de Titanes. Cage didn’t like that, things escalated quickly, and the other rudos attacked Cage. Parka & Psycho thought about it, made the save, teased attacking Konnan, and were attacked by Blue Demon from him. Cage shook hands with Parka & Psycho afterward. Cage and Demon switched places in the match and Cage wrestled as a técnico.

Los Macizos fouled Lider & Pagano after.

Vampiro appeared to explain Scarlett wasn’t here and Zaifro would replace her. Keyra and Lady Shani each side they’d be the next Reina de Reinas and got into a fight after the match. Keyra and Shani ripped each other’s masks and had to be pulled apart twice.

VIP attacked his partners after the match, giving Syrus a sit-down piledriver. This came across as the wrestlers doing their own angle.


Villano III senton

The main event was an average AAA main event, with the weirdness of Brian Cage doing spots with Blue Demon. Demon looked old and not entirely convincing as a main event heel, though he tried to make it up with aggressive brawling at times. Cage got to throw people around before his title match, and it sure seems like they’re setting him up for more than just a title challenge.

The semi-main was a thoroughly average match which had no change in following the craziness of the last one. The crowd was out of it until Murder Clown did his 619 and splash. The Mascara/Maximo issue has gotten months of build and didn’t come across as any special deal here. The crowd is into Máximo’s comedy, but they were also into Mamba outside of the feud.

how was this supposed to work

The extreme match definitely wasn’t for me – it was extreme spots without meaning or build – but I didn’t think it wasn’t a great exhibition. Pagano was bad in this match, as often. Pagano was taking forever to do spots, and then screwing them up. Pagano did spots about not wanting to get hit by light tubes right after he no sold chair shots to the head (and didn’t sell those light tubes all that much.) Pagano’s clumsiness probably wasn’t responsible for the double suplex going bad, but it sure was a lot to do with the finish not going well. Pagano is willing to do stupid stuff to himself and he was way over so he can continue being bad at wrestling but it doesn’t make it great to watch. The other guys were fine, and Ciclope & Miedo Extremo came across better here than their previous match. But this was only enjoyable to see Pagano be bad.

The tercera was another exciting match between these two teams, if not as clean as their previous ones. The match was rough mostly in terms of guys actually being caught. Poder del Norte whiffed both on Laredo and Angelikal’s dives, and there were some hard landings earlier. There was also a little bit too many two counts where Copetes had to pause counting because someone wasn’t quick enough to break up pins. These are things they can clean up with another try, and at least Poder del Norte was kept to only one chair shot this time. I don’t know what the deal was with the weapon Cota used either though.

Murder Clown press slam

The women’s match wasn’t really as the level of the recent ones, though it was still alright. They did a lot more triple spots than normal for these matches, and it kind of got more silly than serious. AAA nearly missed Shani’s finish for a second straight show, which is almost as impressive as Keyra’s unwilling to take it easy on dropkicks. Vanilla maybe needs to get a lot better at the tornillo or stop doing the tornillo, because it was really not good here. The brawl felt more real than usual.

The opener had some good spots and was also pretty rough at times. The early portion of the match, where the rudos setup up flashy técnico spots, looked the best. Though even that was was a bit slow, enough to feel artificial. They were less able to stay on their plan as the match went along, which made some stuff look brutal but also sloppy. It was fine enough as a local match goes. Villano III Jr. had a great senton but his finish didn’t really come that close to hitting.

Starfire suplex