CMLL Martes: 2018-11-27 

Soberano & Hechicero

Recapped: 11/29/2018


Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro beat Kaligua & Shockercito
(12:25 [5:43, 3:16, 3:26], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cancerbero, Metálico, Nitro beat Pegasso, Robin, Star Jr.
(12:21 [5:57, 3:28, 2:56], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Lluvia, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit beat Dalys, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
(10:18 [6:06, 4:12], 1/2 DQ, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Black Panther beat Dragón Rojo Jr. in a lightning match
(4:08, springboard dropkick, bad, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr., Titán beat Hechicero, Templario, Vangellys
(9:56 [4:45, 2:23, 2:48], 1/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Niebla Roja beat Ephesto, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero
(12:00 [3:59, 1:39, 6:22], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Rey Bucanero hasn’t forgotten Niebla Roja shaved his head. It didn’t figure into the finish. That’s about all there was to storylines.

A poor lightning match is capped off by the referee not counting three when Black Panther has decided to end the match (early) and then counting it right after. Black Panther is angry at the referee, Dragon Rojo, and the world after his win.

Reyna Isis does the slowest mask removal bit possible to set up tossing her mask to Princesa Sugehit. She does it right in front of Referee Edgar, who has no reason but to be distracted. Everyone is just baffled.


headscissors could’ve been tighter but good setup

It’s too bad the third fall of the semi-main went off the rails a bit because it was an interesting and fun match to that point. Titan and Hechicero getting to an armbar hanging over the top rope within 40 seconds was not the traditional start to a CMLL trios match. They continued to have creative moments in the first fall, and Hechicero and Soberano had a great finish to that fall. The second fall was solid, but the third started off with Templario slipping on a springboard dropkick. It never really got going from there, with Soberano having a less obvious slip and the fall seemingly coming to an end really quick. Nice effort at least, more than most matches.

I only watched the lightning because I heard it was remarkably not good. It definitely was not good! Dragon Rojo, doing who knows what (fasting?) to get ready for the bodybuilding contest has little energy even just walking to the ring. Panther gets more out of arguing with the referee than Dragon Rojo, who is too tired to take a takedown. The one time Panther whips him cross corners, Dragon Rojo pitifully slow. Panther had already decided to end it and is not helped by a referee who must’ve believed they weren’t ending that soon. The “no condition to perform” term is usually applied to people who are on some mind-altering substance, but Dragon Rojo was just as much in no condition to perform and CMLL shouldn’t have let him go out for his match. There’s no great gif or video to pass around, so it’ll go under the radar this time. CMLL should feel lucky.

Leyendas Mexica show in CMLL tonight, Dragon Lee/Exatlon

CMLL has a legends shows tonight. Infrequent Legends shows in Arena Mexico draw well. Many of the older wrestlers still are semi-active in smaller arenas, but there is a special attraction to seeing them back in Arena Mexico. The problem is they are old men (always men, the women aren’t getting brought back) and many have lost the athletic ability to have good or even OK matches. The better ones still have the mental ability to put on a good show, while some are less willing to adjust to their current state. The quality of the matches will not at all matter to the fans this show is intended to draw; they just want to see their childhood heroes one more time. If you didn’t grow up watching Canek or Rayo de Jalisco and lack a nostalgia for them, this may be a tougher show to get there.

A show being a draw and a show being a good idea are not the same. There’s a risk to putting these older guys in the ring one more time. The Cuervo/Angel o Demonio situation was a tragedy that could’ve been avoided. Angel o Demonio shouldn’t have thrown that brick, and someone should’ve stopped him from having a brick to throw. I hope all the old guys (and the young guys!) get thru this show fine but, if something happens, it’ll also be something that could’ve and should’ve been avoided. Jerry Estrada hasn’t been on a CMLL show in 25 years and it is good he is being honored. It’s also a bit worrisome that a man most last knew as being in a wheelchair is having a wrestling match. (The explanation being told is Estrada rehabbed and got back in ring shape.) CMLL has stopped putting Cien Caras in the ring, so there is a limit to who they will use. You’ve just got to hope as a fan that they’re making safe decisions here.

Of the three legends matches, the Los Diabolicos versus Trio Fantastia match should be the best. The Diabolicos were always really good, and Santana, Condor, and Gallego are pretty active on the indies. Solar & Negro Navarro would normally be expected to hold together that trios match, but Solar’s looked shaky in his Arena Mexico appearances this year. Felino will be needing to work harder than usual. Last week’s main event was built on creative deploment of Mascara 2000 to hide his weaknesses. This week’s main event has him as maybe the second best wrestler. Canek & Rayo have been immobile for decades and Villano IV has been limited to mostly stand and punch for a while. CMLL made a mistake by not including a couple of younger guys to carry the load.

The upside of this tournament regular matches look good. The micros have remained fun. NGD versus Terrible/Rush/Cavernario is a new and interesting match. Guerreros versus Caristico, Mistico, and Volador is not really that new but should be really good based on that past history. It also may be a trios title change for math reasons: the not-Sky Team winning the belts would reduce the Universal tournament participant list from 18 to 17 (or the perfect 16 if Electrico does not count.) This should be a memorable show, and hopefully a postively memorable one.

Lucha Central has a preview of the show. It’ll stream at 8:30 pm on Marca (currently region blocked) and Facebook. I’ll stream it on YouTube as well.

MLW announced Dragon Lee vs Rich Swann on 12/13. Dragon Lee & Golden Magic are replacing Fenix against Laredo Kid an upcoming Arena Xalapa show, That show has been moved from 12/20 to 12/18. It would now be Dragon Lee’s first match in Mexico. Fenix will still be appearing at the show.

Dragon Lee was on an interview show talking about his Exatlon appearance. He says he lost muscle mass on the island because he was eating only twice a day instead of the five teams he normally does. He’s working to get back in condition before getting in the ring. He was surprised to be taken out of the game, figuring the show would just treat the ear infection and he’d be able to return to the game. Dragon Lee also disputed rumors that the elimination game he won was thrown by the other participant and that he was angry about his face being exposed at a concert all his team attendant. Dragon Lee’s story here is he knew someone would inevitably take his photo, so he switched clothes with someone else to fool the photographers about his identity.

LA Park was interviewed on the popular Escorpion Dorada YouTube show. It is nothing something I watch, but a lot of people do – he’s got 5.5 million subscribers and the Park video already has near a million views after a couple days. LA Park talks stories about his career, including being in jail for a month in Satillo after sending a fan to intensive care after a fight. I stumbled on an article about that when going thru the archives a while ago – it was late 80s, if I recall – but I bet he tells it better.

Arena Puebla’s Astro (Aereo) has opened his own school in Tlaxcala.

+LuchaTV will stream the 10/28 Kaoz show starting at 7 pm tonight.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

RIOT says they’ll return on 02/02/19 with a surprise show.

Puma King has a video from Lucha Capital.

CMLL Puebla: 2018-11-26

Rey Apocalipsis worked very hard on this

Recapped: 11/27/2018


Astro, Centella Roja, Meyer beat Espíritu Maligno, King Jaguar, Rey Apocalipsis
(12:29 [6:40, 3:42, 2:07], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Black Tiger, El Malayo, Hijo del Signo beat Arkalis, Súper Astro Jr., Tigre Rojo Jr.
(12:13 [5:07, 3:00, 4:06], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Flyer, Kráneo, Volcano beat Felino, Tiger, Tyson La Bestia
(17:16 [6:45, 2:30, 8:01], 2/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

La Bestia Del Ring, Okumura, Terrible beat Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr.
(15:31 [5:57, 2:46, 6:48], 1/3, n/r, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. beat Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
(10:26 [2:40, 2:31, 5:15], 2/3, ok, VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened:

Announcers have a discussion about Black Tiger being a rudo. Miguel Linares wants to know why he changed sides, while Julio Cesar Rivera taunts his new found ability on the rudo side. It seems like a permanent change. This ends the investigation into Black Tiger rudo turn.


Zacarias as Black Warrior

The main event was heatless by CMLL standards. There was no reaction to the técnicos comeback in the second fall. The interactions between the técnicos and Tirantes got more attention to the rudos, who aren’t really a much of main event trio at this point. It’s great Último Guerrero got his guy Templario on his team, but these are the Hijos del Infierno are the ones who really need the help if CMLL is going to keep using them in these positions. It felt like they essentially gave up doing all that much in the third fall, with Volador playing handshake games for most of his time in. Carístico did his average run, and the rudos were lost a bit with Valiente. This was a handwave ok match and that feels generous.

lucha TV preview for weekend of November 30th, 2018

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AAA is back on Twitch on Sunday with Guerra de Titanes. I think this is a Good card with some cruft. Others may see the main event and the endless Mascara/Maximo feud as a bad match. Most are probably really fascinated with how they’re going to handle the heavyweight title match.

The CMLL legends show on Marca will have some good moments and some not good moments. No offense to Felino but he’s got to be a replacement for Negro Casas, right?

Given who is left on Lucha Capital, I really want a Laredo Kid versus Taurus match. Or maybe Murder Clown versus Australian Suicide. (That would leave Texano versus Psycho Clown in a TripleMania rematch and La Hiedra versus Taya.)

Lucha Capital Week 5, CMLL bodybuilding results, Angel o Demonio

Lucha Capital

AAA , Capital (WED) 11/28/2018 Pinche Gringo Barbecue, Miguel Hidalgo, Distrito Federal [AAA, Lucha CentralRecord, thecubsfan]
1) Averno b Angelikal Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa)
10:09. Averno won via Super Devil’s Wings
2) Lady Maravilla b Lady Shani Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa)
4:43. Shani used a bridging cradle.
3) Pagano b Aerostar Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa)
6:68. Pagano beat Aerostar with a rebound reverse suplex.
4) Máximo b Niño Hamburguesa Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa)
7:28. Maximo kissed Nino Hamburgesa three times and craldes him.
5) Pentagón Jr. b Golden Magic Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa)
14:29. Pentagon won with a package piledriver. Fenix was on commentary.

Pentagon & Golden Magic is worth seeking out and the opener was really good too. This was the longest show yet and these are still better when you can skip thru the filler, but it was still an overall enjoyable show.

Next week looks like it should have matches with Australian Suicide, Laredo Kid, Psycho Clown, Texano Jr., La Hiedra, Taurus, Taya and Murder Clown unless they change their minds on his match again. That’s an even eight, so they could just eliminate Fenix by not mentioning him again. It might cause an odd number of people for the wild card show but that thing is going to be a mess anyway.

Yesterday’s CMLL bodybuilding contest did stream. Winners:

Overall: Astral
Advanced: 1st Astral (4th win in division), 2nd Espiritu Negro, 3rd Angel del Amor
Women: 1st Dalys, 2nd Lluvia, 3rd Avispa Dorada
Novato: 1st Dragon Rojo Jr., 2nd Triton, 3rd Niebla Roja
Principantes: 1st Fugaz, 2nd Sangre Imperial, 3rd Halcon Suriano
Male Students: 1st Thor, 2nd Hercules Negro, 3rd Emperador Azteca
Female Students: 1st Emily Rose, 2nd Senya Ruth (they were the only 2)
Micros: 1st Micro Angel, 2nd Atomo, 3rd Microman

It seemed to me like there were less people participating in the higher men’s levels than past years. (This post about Fugaz’s win mentions there were 44 people.) I think it’ll keep going as long as they have a sponsor for it, but it does not seem to as influence CMLL booking as much as it once did. Astral has won the overall contest multiple times and he’s still about the lowest ranked guy on the CMLL main roster.

On Informa, Dragon Rojo said his bad performance on Tuesday was due to his preparation for the bodybuilding contest. Also on the show, Dalys said Negro Casas was out due to a surgery. It was not said what it was, just said it was not serious and he’s taking a break to recover.

Dragon Lee posted a message on Instagarm teasing a return on December 25th. That doesn’t quite fit with Cavernario saying the Universal touranment is happening soon, unless they’re running it on the holidays.

MLW announced Rush vs Shane Strickland on 12/13 and Rush vs Rich Swann on 12/14. The 12/14 show will air live. Noted man of scoops Jacob Cohen says MLW is also running DJZ versus Dragon Lee. I think that means it has been posted by MLW somewhere or was on an audio show but I’m not sure where. Sounds great though.

Arena (Ciudad) Juarez looks like they’ll be the first people to use Angel o Demonio after his brick attack to Cuervo. They’ve been taling him coming for Sunday’s show all week and announced the lineup with him on it last night. They’re bringing in because of the infamous notirety, picturing him with bricks on the poster. These are the local promoters for AAA TV shows and would think they wouldn’t want to do anything to damage that relationship, but they’re also the same people who wanted to promote a Black Skeller versus Zafiro match after Skeller had his own infamous brutal virual moment earlier this year. (Pagano also may be involved with the promotion; he was introduced as their ‘padrino’ back when the promotion kicked off a few months ago.) Most of the people responding on their Facebook have been negative on bringing in Angel o Demonio.

Leo Riano, in his Record column, writes that he believes extreme lucha isn’t worth the risk to luchador’s health. That’s interesting for an AAA announcer, since they’ve been doing a lot of that style match of late and will probably be doing another one this weekend.

AAA’s local Aguascalientes promoter is still advertising Fenix versus Brian Cage.

AAA held a press conference in Xalapa for the 12/08 taping. The minis in the opener were all said to be new characters, outside of Mini Psycho Clown. Hijo del Tirantes challenged (non-present) Vampiro to a singles match on local promoter LG’s first show of the year.

AAA wrestlers visited the MedioTiempo offices.

AAA has added the 12/25 AAA vs ELITE taping to their own listing. Tickets run from 200-600 pesos.

The Wrestling Observer Newsletter explained the Espectro & Kahoz situation as “one side” wanting to put the young wrestlers under characters AAA owns, and “others” not wanting to have wrestlers use Antonio Pena characters. It’s phrased oddly and it’s a WON scoop on AAA, so the reflex is to assume Konnan is one of those two sides. I’m thinking it might actually be Dorian Roldan and Marisela Pena having opposite viewpoints. This paragraph also includes Dave accidently calling Black Danger “Danger Boy”, which really is a better name.

Konnan is mentioned by name about wanting to use the Rascalz (Trey Miguel, Dezmond Xavier, and Zachary Wentz) and LAX from Impact in AAA. I think they all worked for The Crash when Konnan was there; Miguel maybe not, but he did work the Arolucha taping. With their connections, AAA could put on a great all cruiserweight action show one day if they wanted.

Hijo del Octagon says he is still owed money for appearing on the previous season of reality show Exatlon. There had been a rumor that AAA threatened TV Azteca (who air Exatlon) over the use of the Hijo del Octagon name they say they own. Hijo del Octagon is accusing Azteca & Exatlon of taking the money owed to him and sending it to AAA get them to go away. He feels he owns the name and is owed the money.

Lucha Underground’s Chris DeJoseph and Chris Roach were on the TwitWow podcast talking about Lucha Underground Season 4. They’re much more upbeat about the future than Erik Van Wagenen but also note that’s out of their hands. One of the questions people have had elsewhere is wondering how Chelesa Green ended up in NXT before her stint on Lucha Underground as Reklusa even aired. On this show, Roach explained Green was offered a LU deal, was “apprehensive” about signing it, and the LU group decided she was talented enough to use anyway. I think a lesson of the current wrestling landscape is that if you have value, you should make sure to hold out for a favorable deal.

There’s a few storyline details on there. If Dante Fox had been healthy, the start of Aztec Warfare would’ve been Antonio Cueto telling the trios champions that only one of them could be in the match and Killshot taking the spot without asking the other two to start his heel turn. Vibora’s beheading was a spur of the moment thing when he got injured – they had planned on Crane joining the Reptiles trios and thoughts of spinning Vibora out to a feud with Mil Muertes – and that might not be the end of of the character if there is a Season 5. In the most tragic scoop, there was a Vinnie Massaro storyline scheduled for Season 4 that was cut for time. The short length of the season (both in taping time and number of episodes) was one of the struggles they had writing that season’s show.

An article on Cuernavaca’ Dragon Chino says he’ll be among legends honored Friday on Arena Mexico’s show. They haven’t mentioned honoring additional legends but it would make sense. They mention Mil Mascaras, Dr. Wagner, Espector, Jerry Montes, and Anibal as among 15 others who will be honored.

Lucha Talk has their latest episode.



CMLL (MON) 12/03/2018 Arena Puebla
1) Astro, Meyer, Sonic vs Guerrero Espacial, King Rocker, Sombra Diabólika
2) Arkalis, Millenium, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Espanto Jr., Fuerza Chicana, Policeman
3) Stigma, Titán, Tritón vs Kawato San, Okumura, Tiger
4) Atlantis, Soberano Jr., Valiente vs Cavernario, Felino, Rey Bucanero
5) Rush & Terrible vs Diamante Azul & Volador Jr.

That main even would be a good build to a tag title match if Rush & Terrible still had them. Odd they’re doing 2×2 main event otherwise.

Sonic makes his first trip to Puebla. This is Sombra Diabolika’s first match in a while. Maybe the tercera will be good.

AAA Lucha Capital: 2018-11-28


Recapped: 11/28/2018


Averno beat Angelikal
(10:09, super Devil’s Wings, good, 00:18:20)

Lady Maravilla beat Lady Shani
(4:43, Shani bridging cradle, ok, 00:35:56)

Pagano beat Aerostar
(6:58, Pagano rebound reverse suplex, ok, 00:48:55)

Máximo beat Niño Hamburguesa
(7:28, kiss cradle, ok, 01:13:54)

Pentagón Jr. beat Golden Magic
(14:29, package piledriver, great, 01:33:27)

What happened: 

pay attention

It was explained at the top of the show that Murder Clown’s win over Samoano was now considered not to have counted. However, since Killer Kross didn’t wrestle, it was considered a loss in the standings for him. (Or, they didn’t want to fly him out again.) That leaves eight healthy people for matches next week if they simply eliminate Fenix due to injury.

Fenix did appear and joined in the main event commentary. He took a wheelchair out to the announcers’ stage but seemed to be moving much better than a wheelchair would indicate. They talked about his injury, but there was no indication of how he’d be replaced in the tournament or what would happen to his title match on Guerra de Titanes.

The first four matches were treated as Konnan & Vampiro picking wrestlers to go against each other, though was forgotten by the main event. It ended up 2-2 in the matches they picked, of course.


Angelikal is going to be unbeatable when he hits his target

The Fenix/Golden Magic was really good because Fenix had a great one-man performance. Against Penta, Golden Magic held his own. He had to for the story to work: Penta didn’t take him or the match seriously and got taken out with big moves by Golden Magic early and often. If Magic’s offense looked subpar, Penta being unexpectedly in trouble doesn’t work. Penta played not caring but was trying more than he needed to for this goofy show; he doesn’t have to take a headscissors to the floor but he still did. Magic got caught being a little too cocky when things went his way and Penta took it to the next level when he needed to. Golden Magic had a really good tournament for losing both matches and was fortunate to get the matchups he did.

Máximo tried really hard with Aerostar. Niño Hamburguesa is not Aerostar and Máximo didn’t have the same effort. This wasn’t the total comedy match it could’ve been. It might have been a lot better with a lot more comedy. At least that way it might have been fun. The action was slow, not particularly interesting, and dragged without even going eight minutes. It wasn’t a disaster but it’s a very easy skip.

required AAA women’s division shoot dropkick

Pagano & Aerostar was not a good mix. Pagano looked clumsy as always, with the bad aim on the buckle powerbomb seeming pretty dangerous. He had a legdrop earlier that was a mess. Both guys could use someone else to keep the match going between moves. Pagano was just giving Aerostar a move, picking him back up, and giving him another move with no particular hurry. Aerostar did some fancy spots doesn’t have the crowd connection to pull them in when he’s getting beat up a lot, and Pagano was less over than his previous match.

The second Maravilla/Shani match was not much better than the first. I’ve liked both in other matches but they don’t seem to have much chemistry with each other. This was a slow match with neither standing out. The submission counter spots they were doing might have worked in a different crowd, but this one seems to need something with more impact. The finish seemed pretty sudden.


Penta does not believe in Magic

The bonus match was pretty fun. Averno used to wrestle a lot of singles matches in CMLL and has done hardly any since coming to AAA. He’s still good in his role of holding together matches with exciting flippy dudes. Angelikal was definitely exciting with his dives, though his aim probably wasn’t as quite as good as he wanted. Averno gave him most of the match to look impressive before beating him. It worked.

CMLL Tuesdays shows, Lucha Capital (w/Fenix?) tonight, Cuervo

I need something here and they started doing weird rolls, perfect

CMLL (TUE) 11/27/2018 Arena México [Lucha Central, The Gladiatores, CMLL]
1) Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro b Kaligua & Shockercito LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 27 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Cancerbero, Metálico, Nitro b Pegasso, Robin, Star Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 27 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
3) Lluvia, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit DQ Dalys, Reyna Isis, Tiffany LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 27 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
straight falls, the last when Reyna Isis tries tossing her mask to Princesa Sugehit but did it right in front of referee Edgar.
4) Black Panther b Dragón Rojo Jr. [lightningLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 27 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Black Panther replaced Blue Panther and won in 4:09.
5) Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr., Titán b Hechicero, Templario, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 27 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Valiente was wrongly listed and replaced by Titan. Tecnicos took 1/3.
6) Ángel de Oro, Diamante Azul, Niebla Roja b Ephesto, Mephisto, Rey Bucanero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 27 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.

No angles here. Promo from Titan and Niebla Roja hype the bodybuilding contest, not anything that happened here.

Not completely sure what happened with the lightning match. The finish looked like the referee screwed up the count. R de Rudo noted some people on Twitter thought Dragon Rojo looked in no condition to wrestle. CultIcon just saw it as a mediocre match, which might have been all it was given Dragon Rojo. It is still confusing why they advertised Blue Panther for a match he shouldn’t have been in.

The bodybuilding contest is happening right now.

Lucha Capital is tonight at 8:30 pm on Facebook Watch. No matches have been announced for the first time in this tournament. Instead, Pentagon Jr., Aerostar, Golden Magic, Lady Shani, Fenix, Nino Hamburguesa, Lady Maravilla and Maximo are listed as wrestling. Maximo/Hamburgesa, Maravilla/Shani, Golden/Penta and Aerostar/Fenix’s replacement makes the most sense. However, the guiding principle of AAA appears to be “it does not have to make sense”, so who knows.

AAA hasn’t explained what is going on with Fenix. They’re promoting this show instead as a unique occasion to see Penta, Fenix, and Blue Demon together. (I feel like LU Season 1 and half of the Generacion XXI shows have also had this unique occasion.) Blue Demon is famous but has not been responsible for a good match for a very long time. It would be very bad news if he was being brought in to take Fenix’s place in this tournament.

This would also be a logical time for AAA to announce how they’re handling the heavyweight title match at Guerra de Titanes. AAA’s avoided hyping that match this week to this point, possibly concerned they’ll be jumped on by some lame Twitter user. They’ll have Fenix, they’ll have authority figure Vampiro, and they’ll have the most live viewers they’ll have on a broadcast between now and Sunday. (Also, if they’re looking for an outside name to replace Fenix, Penta will also be there and is an obvious pick if he’s ok with the outcome.) Lucha Capital has not done much with the main AAA show storylines to this point and nothing has to make sense with AAA.

It is amazing that Fenix will (theoretically) even just be brought in for the show. If you recall, the original breaking point between AAA & Fenix was AAA refusing to fly Fenix in from San Diego for TripleMania. They’re now apparently flying him in from San Diego just to chat in a barbecue restaurant.

The Crash has announced their Fenix related card changes for Saturday. Bestia 666 & Mecha Wolf move up to face Sanson & Cuatrero for the vacant titles. Penta moves down to their match, which is now a three-way with Mistico and Rey Horus. A bit notable here, because The Crash decided not to announce card changes the last time Fenix missed a show. This is also the fourth straight time The Crash tag championship has been vacated without a defense. No one’s actually ever successfully defended the titles, but at least it changed hands in the ring in 2016. Bestia & Mecha ought to win; not only do they have the best chance to actually defend it, but The Crash has been a group versus group promotion. Rebelion Amarila are the strongest group and they should take advantage of it by building around a team title.

Bates de Vibranio reported Cuervo has been discharged from the hospital. Not sure if he’s going directly to Puerto Rico but he looks a lot better. He was told not to do serious physical activity or lift weights for six months. Cuervo plans on returning to wrestle in Mexico someday.

EMW says they’re moving their Tijuana AAA house show on 12/15 from the Auditorio to Arena Big Punch due to “changes in administrator and logistics” with the big building. That seems like a big change. There’s a poster for the show but no lineup.

The La Quebradora columns in El Grafico argues it is time for Cavernario to lead his own group instead of being a junior member in another.

Reforma has a 30-minute interview with Vampiro. I don’t see me spending the time on this one.

Lucha World has the latest Lucha Report.


IWRG (SUN) 12/02/2018 Arena Naucalpan
1) Arquero & Mexica vs Death Metal & Hijo De Blue Monsther
2) Black Dragón & Dinamic Black vs Ra-Zhata & Shil-Kah
3) Diosa Atenea, Multifacético, Pasion Kristal vs Ludark Shaitan, Soy Raymunda, Tackle
4) Eragón, Hijo del Alebrije, Relámpago vs Demonio Infernal, Eterno, Lunatic Extreme
5) Freelance vs Aramis vs Alas de Acero [seconds hair]
referees will be picked by blind draw
6) Black Terry, Dr. Cerebro, Imposible, Ovett, Toscano, Último Gladiador vs Dowki, Hip Hop Man, Karaoui, Mosca (Argentina), Musashi, Zumbi [Copa Higher Power]
7) Rokambole Jr., Villano IV, Villano V Jr. vs Capo del Norte, Capo del Sur, Máscara Año 2000 Jr.

Order of the matches may be wrong. I have a uninformed suspicion IWRG is heading to a Villanos vs Capos apuesta match by the end of the year. Fith match should be fun.

great match roundup, week of 2018-11-17



I really liked Fenix/Cavernario. I wish Fenix didn’t get hurt during it.

The AAA show counts as next week. I finished a catch-up post but I don’t have it to ready to post yet. I did remember to update the MOTYC list.

Recommended Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
excellent Cavernario vs King Phoenix in a CMLL’s Leyenda de Plata Tournament match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-11-23 2018-11-23
good Dalys © vs Marcela for the CMLL World Women’s Championship LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-19 2018-11-19
good Último Guerrero © vs Sansón for the CMLL World Heavyweight Championship LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-19 2018-11-19
good Príncipe Diamante & Robin vs El Coyote & Grako LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-20 2018-11-20
good Titán vs Flyer in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-20 2018-11-20
good Drago vs Puma King Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa) Lucha Capital: 2018-11-21 2018-11-21
good Keyra vs Vanilla Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa) Lucha Capital: 2018-11-21 2018-11-21
good Murder Clown vs Samoano Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa) Lucha Capital: 2018-11-21 2018-11-21
good Cuatrero, Forastero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Templario, Último GuerreroLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-11-23 2018-11-23
ok Argenis vs Mocho Cota Jr. Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa) Lucha Capital: 2018-11-21 2018-11-21
ok Hijo Del Vikingo vs Máscarita Sagrada Facebook video (posted by luchalibreaaa) Lucha Capital: 2018-11-21 2018-11-21
ok Oro Jr. & Súper Astro Jr. vs Akuma & Espanto Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-11-23 2018-11-23
ok Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Fuego vs Kawato San, Okumura, Universo 2000 Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-11-23 2018-11-23
ok Soberano Jr., Titán, Tritón vs Dark Magic, Luciferno, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-11-23 2018-11-23
ok Carístico, Místico, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Penta 0M LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 23 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on 2018-11-23 2018-11-23
not rated Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja vs Black Tiger & Rey Apocalipsis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-19 2018-11-19
not rated Pegasso & Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Metálico & Toro Bill Jr.LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-19 2018-11-19
not rated Drone, Fuego, Stigma vs Dragón Rojo Jr., El Malayo, Pólvora LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-19 2018-11-19
not rated Atlantis, Octagón, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Fuerza Guerrera, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 19 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-19 2018-11-19
not rated Eléctrico, Pegasso, Stigma vs Cancerbero, Disturbio, Metálico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-20 2018-11-20
not rated Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Tiger LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-20 2018-11-20
not rated Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr. vs Felino, Hechicero, Universo 2000 Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-20 2018-11-20
not rated Kráneo, Soberano Jr., Valiente vs Cavernario, La Bestia Del Ring, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-11-20 2018-11-20

Boring Puebla show, not much better Mexico show tonight, Dragon Lee to MLW, Lucha Capital

a totally normal ending to a show

CMLL (MON) 11/26/2018 Arena Puebla [CMLL]
1) Astro, Centella Roja, Meyer b Espíritu Maligno, King Jaguar, Rey Apocalipsis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 26 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Black Tiger, El Malayo, Hijo del Signo b Arkalis, Súper Astro Jr., Tigre Rojo Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 26 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3
3) Flyer, Kráneo, Volcano b Felino, Tiger, Tyson La Bestia LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 26 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.
4) La Bestia Del Ring, Okumura, Terrible b Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 26 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Okumura replaced Dark Magic (injury?) Rudos took 1/3.
5) Carístico, Valiente, Volador Jr. b Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 26 DE NOVIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3.

A nothing show of bad to ok matches. Maybe they’re setting up a Mephisto/Caristico match. The Voices of Wrestling recap mentioned Dark Magic looked hurt after his match on Friday.

They mentioned the winner of the bodybuilding contest will appear on Informa tomorrow. The contest starts at tomorrow at noon and I have no idea if we’ll see it. I’ll be OK with not seeing it. Edit: This article says Arena Mexico will open to the public at 11:30 for this tomorrow.

Today’s Arena Mexico show doesn’t look much better. There’s no feud going on and none of the matches stand out as good. There is a curious match, Blue Panther in a lightning match against Dragon Rojo. Panther has been in only one other lightning match this year, a match with Rey Cometa that ended in a double countout after a Cometa dive. I’m not sure what strange will happen here, but Panther matches tend to have strange things happen.

The main event is scheduled to be Angel de Oro, Niebla Roja and Diamante Azul versus Ephesto, Mephisto and Rey Bucanero. That may change, since Bucanero missed both weekend shows. Soberano, Stuka and Valiente Titan take on Hechicero, Templario and Vangellys in the semi-main. Maybe. There’s a women’s match, a typical segunda, and a minis match to round it out. The show starts at 7:30pm pn YouTube.

Arena Coliseo Guadalajara has Los Guerreros against Volador, Caristico and Valiente. Going to be tough for Valiente to wrestle in both arenas at the same time so one of those is getting changed. EDIT: This story on today’s show has Titan in Arena Mexico, so Valiente will be in Guadalajara. (This seems to happen when someone’s out hurt and they have to slip in a replacement. Maybe Mistico is on vacation?)

No CMLL show Saturday. They’re canceled for boxing. The only notable Saturday lucha libre show in Mexico City area I can see right now is the Lucha Libre Boom show in Arena Lopez Mateos. That means a lot of luchadors will likely be in attendance for the WWE show at Arena Ciudad de Mexico, which will include La Sombra/Andrade Almas’ first match in Mexico since leaving CMLL.

FULL says they have a TV taping tonight. I have no idea where or when it might be airing.

MLW announced Dragon Lee will be making his debut with them on their 12/13 & 14 show. Rush had mentioned promoters were asking about booking his brother and MLW was obviously one of those promoters. Rush is working the 12/15 ROH TV taping. I figure Dragon Lee will end up doing the same, but there’s been no announcement of that so far. Right now, Dragon Lee has no announced bookings in Mexico, though he is doing a fair bit of TV interviews talking about the reality show.

AAA’s latest Lucha Capital lineup has Pentagon Jr., Aerostar, Golden Magic, Lady Shani, Fenix, Nino Hamburgeusa, Lady Maravilla and Maximo. They removed Murder Clown, Australian Suicide and La Hiedra but not the injured Fenix. No matches are announced. It’ll probably change again.

An AAA spot show in Satillo on Sunday was said to draw about 6,000 people. Main was Psycho Clown over Pagano & Rey Escorpion.

GALLI announced Drago will replaced Fenix on their show next Sunday. The promotion that was running a vacant mall until they got kicked out of the mall (for an indoor baseball practice facility) is better at updating lineups than AAA.

Casandro does an interview about her recent documentary, says she was originally doing a “Jane Fonda” aerobics class when a friend first told her about training wrestling.

LuchaWorld has this week’s Poster-Mania.

+LuchaTV has the latest edition of their podcast.

A 13 year old girl (Angely) debuted in Arena Aficion last Sunday. She’d been training for the year and is believed to be the youngest luchador in the state. She’s the daughter of El Angel; I’m not sure if that’s the AAA one or a different one. (There’s no mention of AAA.)


Lucha Memes (SUN) 12/09/2018 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México
1) Aliado de Dios vs Zumbi
2) Máscara Magica Jr. vs Sádico
3) M. Plateado Jr. vs Zumbido
4) Imposible © vs Loco Max [IWRG IC MIDDLE]
5) Canis Lupus vs Templario
6) Dragón Bane vs Audaz (CMLL)
7) Ricky Marvin vs Arez

This was the show originally set for Arena San Juan. Dragon Bane/Audaz and Marvin/Arez could be good. Imposible has been restored to being Middleweight champion.

This upcoming Sunday Coacalco show has Virus versus Aramis. That looks good on paper but, and I know this is probably a bad take, but I can’t think of the last great Virus match. He does do as much on indie shows, he’s not been in position to have a great match in CMLL in a long time and he’s not making the miscellaneous trios matches great. It may still be there inside him but I’m not sure if we can count on seeing it.

Generacion 21 has a big show on 12/22 with LA Park & Rush vs Penta & and a mystery person. It looks like it is Caristico in the shadow.

Lucha Capital: 2018-11-21 

Murder Clown, the unexpected Lucha Capital breakout character

Recapped: 11/21/2018


Argenis beat Mocho Cota Jr.
(5:38, Argenis top rope headscissors, ok, 00:13:07)

Hijo Del Vikingo beat Máscarita Sagrada
(6:05, shooting star press, ok, 00:25:06)

Drago beat Puma King
(9:44, reversed casita, good, 00:39:31)

Keyra beat Vanilla
(13:42, german suplex, good, 01:12:05)

Murder Clown beat Samoano
(6:32, top rope splash, good, 01:40:33)

What happened:

a good sequence

If you thought AAA could make it four whole weeks without a tournament going off the rails, AAA proved you wrong in this episode. It was not all their fault: the Mexico airport was full of delayed and canceled flights due to fog. Those fight issues caused Vampiro and Pagano to miss the show completely. It may have also affected Killer Kross & Scarlett’s participation, though that wasn’t as clear. Konnan replaced Vampiro on commentary and took a neutral position instead of the rudo/pro-MAD character. Arturo Rivera and Australian Suicide also posted on Facebook all night.

All the matches were changed around. Máscarita Sagrada, scheduled to face Kross, faced Hijo del Vikingo instead. Vikingo’s opponent Vanilla wrestled Keyra. Keyra’s opponent Drago faced Puma King. A bonus non-tournament match between Argenis and Mocho Cota Jr. was added to the start of the show.

Most confusingly, the main event turned out to be Murder Clown facing Samoano. Murder Clown was also on Facebook for a while (as if that was the thing he was scheduled for), while Samoano had done the usual arm wrestling challenge. It wasn’t clear if the match counted at the time, but three points were awarded to Murder Clown in the standings the next day. It’s possible this counts as a loss for Kross or Pagano.

After the match concluded, Killer Kross – in his gear, as if he had been ready to wrestle as scheduled – beat up both Murder Clown and Samoano. Kross then introduced Scarlett, with both saying they’d win the tournament. There were a lot of questions left unexplained (can Scarlett enter after four weeks? Does Kross get any points for this round? What happens if Kross & Scarlett meet in the tournament? Why weren’t MAD teammates Konnan & Kross friends?), with Kross mostly concerned with threatening the life of the hosts. To make it fully awkward, La Griega insisted on the usual end of show selfie with the winners, which meant Murder Clown was suddenly fine and posing with Kross.

The show was the longest so far. There was a long interview with Puma about his career before the main event as well. It felt like they may have been trying to get the show to run long in hopes that Kross would make it to the building, but Kross showing up for the run-in in full gear made it seem like he had been ready to go.


head kicks to the back of the head are not fun

This was a weird show. The changes to the matches generally made for a better show than had been originally announced. As long as you don’t spend any time trying to figure out what this means for this tournament or why Kross was there but did not wrestle, it was a solid show. I like Lucha Capital because it has good matches and no nonsense, and they were veering into the nonsense portion by the end of the show. We will have to see how it goes once the fog lifts next week.

Murder Clown versus Samoano was better than it had any right to be. Both guys seemed motivated by the opportunity. Murder Clown apparently can do more in singles matches than he’s shown the last couple of years and is very willing to throw himself into dives. They also both looked strong with their ability to throw around each other guy for big moves. It is a bit amazing that Murder Clown and Rey Mysterio have the same finishing sequence.

Vanilla and Keyra felt like it was less reheased than most matches on this show, with them both being a little bit not on the same page at times and also a little bit going hard at other times. It made the match a bit ragged but it made it compelling. Vanilla coming thru with a hard dropkick and then having a look at fear of what Keyra would inevitably do back toward her was an amazing thing. (Vanilla didn’t seem prepared for the kick to the back of the head later.) When they were working together, they worked together pretty well and exchanges like the big forearms near the end came off impressive. They got asked to go about twice as long as they might have been asked on a normal show and managed to make it thru without losing the crowd. Vanilla’s flying is still not great – the tornillo was shaky, the pin attempt after eve more so – but this was her best match in a while.

Murder Clown power

Drago & Puma was pretty good, with Puma showing some stuff we haven’t seen from him. Drago is still obviously not 100%, but he did enough to be interesting. He also survived the accidental superbomb near the end, which seemed scare everyone. The cradle reversal sequence at the end was well done, but I still wanted a little bit more out of the match.

Hijo del Vikingo tried to have a match around Máscarita Sagrada, taking a few of his moves and selling big. It worked only slightly better than with Keyra. Vikingo’s took a few big bumps and sold big but mostly just moved slow. Sagrada is not a great inclusion in this tournament and I hope he’ll move out.

Argenis and Mocho Cota was solid even if they didn’t amount to much. Argenis rarely makes TV now, so it was a bit of a surprise to see him win but also does not matter. He did a little flying, Cota was a good base, and it was fine.