Ultimo Guerrero defeats Elgin, Dia de Muertos schedule, Blue Panther 40th lineup


AAA , ELITE (THU) 10/11/2018 Palenque de la Feria, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes [AAA]
1) Príncipe Seira & Xtreme X ?? Dark Finder & Discovery and Corazón Forajido & Índio Yori
2) Faby Apache, La Hiedra, Lady Shani b Keyra, Lady Maravilla, Starfire
Shani & Apache were able to get along.
3) Bandido & Flamita b Aerostar & Drago
Aerostar & Drago had more problems leading to their defeat. Texano & Escorpion confronted Mexablood after the match, talking about their title match on 10/28.
4) Chessman, La Parka, Súper Fly b Emperador Azteca, Golden Magic, Jack Evans
Emperador Azteca replaced Teddy Hart.
5) Hijo del Fantasma, Rey Escorpión, Texano b Electroshock, Puma King, Taurus
Fantasma beat Electroshock after a foul. This gave AAA a 3-1 over Elite.
6) Psycho Clown b FénixPaganoPentagón Jr.
Psycho Clown beat Pentagon Jr. with a destroyer

AAA finally wins a battle over Elite, only when there are no cameras to film it. I would be suspicious of biased refereeing if that wasn’t actually normal for AAA.

The seemingly periodic rumors of Elite actually running a show are back again.

CMLL (FRI) 10/12/2018 Arena México [CMLL, Lucha CentralMarcaOvaciones]
13:07. Rudos took 1/3
2) Amapola, Dalys, Reyna Isis b Avispa Dorada, La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 12 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:22. Rudas took 1/3.
3) Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Templario b Audaz, Esfinge, Soberano Jr.LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 12 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:22. Esfinge replaced Titan (not back from hand injury?) Rudos won in straight falls.
4) Atlantis, David Finlay, Hijo de LA Park b La Bestia Del Ring, Okumura, Rey Bucanero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 12 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:40. La Bestia del Ring replaced Hechicero (moved up). Okumura replaced Shocker. Rudos took 2/3.
5) LA Park, Mistico, Volador Jr. b Cavernario, Hechicero, The Chris LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 12 DE OCTUBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:40. Hechicero moved up to replace Ciber on Friday. Tecnicos took 1/3.
18:44. UG took falls 1/3 to win.

This match had more good matches than last week’s iPPV. 3, 5, and 6 are worth watching, depending on your feelings of the performers involved. Ultimo Guerrero put on a legendary Ultimo Guerrero performance.

CMLL posted promos from Ultimo Guerrero and Michael Elgin. Elgin expressed a desire to return to Mexico again soon in an interview with +Lucha, while Ultimo Guerrero declared Elgin his #1 rival.

CMLL announced the Dia de los Muertos schedule for this year. Themed shows will take place on November 2nd (Friday), 4th (Sunday), and 6th (Tuesday.) If CMLL is running the Cl4n/Guerreros cage match soon, the 11/02 date would make the most sense. They seem to have moved away from that feud again, so perhaps it won’t be happening for now. The Sunday Dia de Muertos show is sometimes streamed as a bonus.

CMLL’s #8 Blue Panther moment was the draw finish between him and Negro Casas in their 2012 hair match.

The Gran Prix is now up for free on CMLL’s YouTube channel. Giving away an iPPV after a week is probably fine; 95% of the people who were going to pay to see it have already seen it, and they never said it’d be pay-only forever. It would’ve been good to tell people that’s what was happening though. CMLL is not good at explaining things, and weird enough to still be promoting Honor Club having this show while they’re putting up for free. I am going to be good at explaining things in this sentence: you don’t really need to watch that show.

Fuego complained about his lack of opportunities to El Grafico, but also to +LuchaTV. This was probably all from the same media event, though it does make me wonder why they even had Fuego out there for media.  Usually, they have some who’s got something going on or has something they want to promote – Avispa Dorada was part of this session to introduce herself, Shocker & Bucanero are still trying to get over their group. Fuego ended up talking about having nothing to talk about. You’d think a CMLL PR person would’ve been standing just off screen and told Fuego to cut it out after the first interview, but then you’d think they wouldn’t put him in that position to begin with.

Space’s lucha libre themed drama “Por La Mascara” debuts tomorrow night. It’s Space’s first TV show, and it’s obviously an attempt to keep the audience they’ve (theoretically) built with AAA this year around their show. That strategy makes sense but hasn’t always been successful in the US. That article mentions Space reaches 17 million homes, which is about 1/3rd of Mexico.

R de Rudo’s El Hacker column claims wrestlers for the PALL affiliated promotions are being asked to only work for the affiliated promotion in that town. The example they give is if a wrestler wants to work in Monterrey, it has to be for MDA, or they have to get permission. If they do not, they’re not eligible for the social security payments in case of injury. My hunch is this is not going to mean much, that most wrestlers are going to be too skeptical agree to be PALL-exclusive until they see with their own eyes that those benefits are actually going to be paid.

R de Rudo also points out a Box Y Lucha interview, where Natsumi explains she’s not going to take on the “Apache” surname until she is as good a wrestler as he mother (Mary Apache) and grandfather (El Apache.) That may take a while. That may take anyone quite a while.


CMLL (FRI) 10/19/2018 Arena México
Blue Panther 40th Anniversary
1) Pegasso & Stigma vs Cancerbero & El Coyote
2) Diamante Azul, Mistico, Valiente vs Dark Magic, Felino, Negro Casas
3) Ángel de Oro, Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Espanto Jr., Luciferno, Misterioso Jr., Templario [Copa Halcon Suriano]
4) Black Warrior, Blue Panther, Euforia, Panterita del Ring vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón
5) Carístico, David Finlay, Penta 0M vs Cavernario, Rush, Terrible

Prices are slightly up for the Blue Panther Anniversary show. Penta is back, and maybe a tecnico now. Him teaming with Caristico seems like a setup, since they were feuding here until it gets dropped. I haven’t checked Penta’s schedule, but I wonder if he might be free to finally do that singles match with Caristico on one of the Dia de Muertos shows.

CMLL on Marca: 2018-10-12

Ultimo Guerrero, for your consideration

Recapped: 10/12/2018


Akuma & Camorra beat Robin & Star Jr.
(13:07 [5:42, 3:18, 4:07], 1/3, below average, 00:01:25)

Amapola, Dalys, Reyna Isis beat Avispa Dorada, La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit
(14:45 [7:21, 3:19, 4:05], 1/3, ok, 00:22:47)

Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Templario beat Audaz, Esfinge, Soberano Jr.  
(12:22 [4:57, 7:25], 1/2, good, 00:48:23)

La Bestia Del Ring, Rey Bucanero, Okumura beat Atlantis, David Finlay, Hijo de LA Park
(11:33 [5:32, 2:18, 3:43], 2/3, below average, 01:09:24 )

LA Park, Mistico, Volador Jr. beat Cavernario, Hechicero, The Chris
(15:40 [5:48, 4:52, 5:00], 1/3, great, 01:33:29 )

Último Guerrero beat Michael Elgin
(18:44, 1/3, great, 02:02:06)

  1. Pulpo Guerrero (5:58)
  2. Michael Elgin powerbomb (2:36)
  3. Guerrero Special (10:10)

What happened:

After he lost wrestling as a rudo, Michael Elgin turned back técnico. He told the crowd he loved Mexico and respected Último Guerrero.

Okumura replaced Shocker in the fourth match.

Rudos won clean in the third match for no particular reason. That seems to be a second men’s match pattern now.


LA Park

Michael Elgin versus Último Guerrero will be talked about as one of the best matches of the year in Mexico. It had strong action, with the two working together like they’d wrestled a hundred matches. It had Elgin looking strong and powerful at every opportunity, laying it into Último Guerrero on chops and clotheslines. Other people on this show looked impressive too – if you want spectacular looking offense, this is a good show for you. What broke this match out was Último Guerrero’s epic performance. Último Guerrero has spent most of his career as a powerful, skilled and dangerous rudo. He’s been pretty great at it. Somehow, someway, Último Guerrero is even better the exact opposite role, at being a sympathetic underdog. UG reacted to every blow, fought thru the beatings, crawled on his hands and knees to get show he was refusing to give up even while he was totally overmatched. The nominal top rudo in the promotion is better at showing a tecnico’s fighting heart than most of the técnicos. It’s crazy he’s so good at something isn’t really his part most of the time. Elgin helped too, mocking Último and demonstrating rudo qualities much more than he had the rest of this tour. He did a great job of being the big obstacle UG had to keep fighting back against. This could’ve gone down just like something the two people in the match were interested in finding out who was better, but they told a great story that made sure the entire crowd was sucked in. This was an all-time Último Guerrero match.

I have small quibbles with Elgin’s style, though even then I think he was better than usual. I can’t find in myself to give it an excellent, which probably means it’s the elephant in the room. At the same time, I think that if there was a vote among Mexican CMLL fans about the best match of the year, this match would beat even the LA Park/Rush match.

the future of CMLL

The semi-main was outstanding trios match when it was going strong, and it was going strong for a lot of the way. The Mistico toss sequence both were executed well, but also looked great, with the overhead camera being utilized well for once. The bit of Mistico & Hechicero trying to wrestle with unceasing interruptions in the first fall gave a different feeling to this match, and the match stayed feeling different from the usual CMLL match the rest of the way. It also allowed LA Park to interact and react to Mistico, and he’s so good at the little things like that. This match overcame an amazingly terrible triple suplex spot early to look really good later, with the third fall particularly going really well. Cavernario came off as more serious than usual, and Hechicero fit in well with the main event guys. LA Park looked like he was having more fun than any other non-Rush match here too.

The fourth match couldn’t follow the match which preceded it. It also wasn’t good by any other standard. Bestia del Ring treated the world to his usual batch of physical and mental mistakes. Bestia not being able to hold up light Hijo de LA Park on a running powerbomb was amazing. Finlay continues to show nothing interesting, though he hasn’t been in a good scenario on Friday night yet. Rey Bucanero & Okumura weren’t on the level of the rudos who Hijo de LA Park usually wrestlers with CMLL and his performance was less impressive as a result. An easy match to skip.

not safe for all audiences

The tercera was a great exciting showcase for the técnicos, who also somehow lost in straight falls. I have no idea why we’re getting so many rudo two fall wins, but at least this one was fun getting there. Audaz looked very impressive, and he did it while barely working with Templario. He was getting around the ropes and onto his opponents with ease no matter who he was facing. That meant Templario worked a lot with Soberano, and that turned out to have strong chemistry. Soberano worked pretty hard for a guy who’s about to head to Japan for weeks, pulling off a nice tornillo at the end. I hope he and Templario get to a title match at some point. Even Esfinge was good when he was annoying, and the other rudos contributed. The only thing holding this back from being a great match was a bit more time.

The women’s match was the usual not much match. It was something I wasn’t really interested in beforehand and they didn’t do much to change my mind. Avispa Dorada got to her dive but not much more. I was worried they were going to freeze her out after getting over last week, but Dalys did give her a little bit of time in the third fall. Jarochita looked off a lot. Dalys tried hard, seemingly because she was getting her win back this week.


Robin was the only one in the opener who looked like a possible good wrestler. Star Jr. normally is one but was off often on offense. His second fall moonsault was so not close to hitting that CMLL actually held off showing the replay. He really needed to have the awareness to realize his mistake and add in another move there. Akuma sometimes is but didn’t have a good night as a base. Camorra never is good and lived up those expectations, blowing the setup to his finish and then struggling to get Robin from the ropes.