1930s Coahuila/Durango lineups added to the luchadb

I added 1930s lucha libre lineups, mostly from the cities Torreon and Gomez Palacio to the luchadb database in the last few days. This covers every year from 1930 to 1939. They’re integrated into the different pages of this site, and they’re also just available here. This is a slow continuing project to mine the El Siglo de Torreon archive for lucha lineups and results. The project is done! I can move onto other equally futile endeavors.

Really, it’s all done. I couldn’t find a reference of lucha libre prior to 1934. The Guadalajara newspaper had lucha libre mentions pre-Salvador Lutteroth. Torreon didn’t get it until a few months after EMLL was founded, or at least it didn’t come up. The lineups resemble the cards of the early days in Mexico City in style if not the same talent, with just one or two singles matches on early cards. It starts to expand to about four matches with the occasional tag match or battle royal by the end of the decade. With no more than 8 people per show, it was quicker to go thru a month of lineups than it is to do one card today, so this was quick to finish.

Shows added by year that include some link to El Siglo de Torreon

193X  255
194X  414
195X  979
196X  133
197X  268
198X 1169
199X 1730
200X 1575
201X   23
     6546 events total

This was very much a still figuring out how lucha libre worked period. There are only a couple title matches, there were no real apuesta matches, the shows are in venues which would quickly disappear. The posters would show up more days in advance than later years, probably because there was more space needing to be filled.

There also isn’t much news on lucha libre outside of lineups and results. There are occasional stories about lucha libre in Mexico City and the odd wire story from New York slips through. Even in the 1930s, there were recaps of shows complaining about how silly things had become.

I got a lot of lineups in this project. I didn’t get many results, but the lineups alone were helpful in getting a sense of what lucha libre looked like in Torreon and Gomez Palacio during different points of time. This has always been a busy area for lucha libre, and the newspapers gave indications when the business was going up and down. I felt like I learned some, and also learned that I, even more, wish there was a public newspaper archive like this for a Mexico City or Monterrey paper that covered lucha libre. I do have plenty of magazines which did so, and I should go back to figuring those out.

Elgin/UG headlines Arena Mexico, Fuego steamed about lack of chances, AAA/ELITE

Michael Elgin and Ultimo Guerrero meet tonight in the main event of Arena Mexico’s show. Elgin beat Guerrero last week. They before in 2016, which CMLL aired as a $1 live PPV. That match was very good and won by Ultimo Guerrero, and I suspect the same will happen tonight.

Ultimo Guerrero’s next feud should be his previous feud with CL4N, but the CL4N seems to be vanishing. Scharly Rockstar was not around last week. Ciber the Main Man was listed on this week’s show, and later replaced by Hechicero. The Chris is the only member left standing. He seemed to be doing the best of the three, so there’s some hope for him, Hechiceor and Cavernario facing Mistico, Volador, and LA Park. Park seemed annoyed with Ciber’s performance last week, and that’s a plausible reason why CMLL might not put them in the same ring again.

Atlantis, David Finlay, and Hijo de LA Park take on Shocker, Rey Bucanero and La Bestia del Ring, which doesn’t seem a good mix of wrestlers. Titan was at one time scheduled in the third match but was quietly replaced by Esfinge there. That suggests Titan hasn’t yet been cleared to return. Soberano & Audaz will instead team with Esfinge against the Revolucionarios and Templario.

The women’s match is a virtual rematch of last week. Amapola steps in for La Metalica, teaming with Reyna Isis & Dalys against Marcela, La Jarochita and Avispa Dorada. The opener is similar to last week’s show too, just with two last people. Robin & Star Jr. team this time around, against Akuma & Camorra. That match last week teased a Signo/Camorra feud, which was awful. Perhaps Camorra will try feuding with someone better.

(Sidebar: Ovaciones has Bestia in semimain and Hechicero in the fourth. I wonder if that was a plan at some point until they decided to stick with the “no fathers versus sons” rule.)

CMLL is back to being on Marca on Friday nights for the foreseeable future. You can watch them on their website (currently regionblocked) and on Facebook (no link up yet.) I’ll be streaming on YouTube.

Lucha Central has a preview of the show.

The article of the day is in El Grafico, where Fuego complains strongly about never being given a chance in CMLL. Fuego wants matches against the likes of Terrible, Hechicero or Cavernario and isn’t getting them. Fuego feels he has the ability to wrestle those guys but hasn’t been the opportunities while others have gotten them. Fuego argues that he’s had chances to wrestle top wrestlers in Japan (Ricochet, Lyger, and Tanahashi mentioned) but not in his home country and can’t understand it. Fuego says this is his goal for 2019. If he can’t achieve that, he will have “grab my bags and leave” – he doesn’t want to be stuck in the position he’s in forever.

This was all from an interview in Arena Mexico. There’s video of it here. It was probably set up by CMLL, since it came out on the usual interview schedule If this was any other promotion, it’d seem like a setup for some sort of angle. It is strange that Fuego was hyped last month as one of the guys who are the future of CMLL and now is a guy who doesn’t seem a future in CMLL, but that first list never made any sense. Fuego probably should be moved up, but I’m also not sure I believe his threat. Guys who threaten to leave are usually not that interested in actually leaving, they’re just desperate for something to change so they can comfortably stay. I think Puma King had the same sort of complaints, and he just started exploring his options instead of making his comments publically known. I will believe Fuego is really thinking about leaving when he starts to take bookings outside of the CMLL sphere.

The timing of Fuego’s complaint might be related to the FantasticaMania details being revealed. A press release says CMLL will be sending 20 luchadors, which is the same number that were scheduled last year. Here’s last year’s 20:

Atlantis, Místico, Volador Jr., Dragón Lee, Niebla Roja, Ángel de Oro,, Soberano Jr., Fuego, Drone, Star Jr., Rush, Último Guerrero, Negro Casas, Gran Guerrero, Bárbaro Cavernario, Sansón, Cuatrero, Okumura, Puma, Disturbio

There are some obvious people who won’t be back. I think we can be pretty sure Drone will not be making a return trip. Puma’s left. Disturbio and Star Jr. are the rotating midcard spots. Atlantis is on every one of these but this would be the year to skip if he’s ever going to skip it – he probably should wait to go back until Atlantis Jr. is ready to go with him. Negro Casas could’ve skipped, but he ended up missing these shows and so he’s got to be a lock for this year. Dragon Lee will probably be back by then (though maybe not by next month when they announce the names.)

Drone, Puma, Disturbio, Star Jr. and Atlantis off would be five open spots. Forastero, Audaz, and Templario are strong bets to make their debuts. There will probably be one early match tecnico and one early match rudo rewarded with a spot – let’s say it’s Robin & Akuma to pick names. If CMLL wants to add anyone else – perhaps Flye, since he won the Gran Alternativa, or Kraneo since he’s been pushed hard – then you have to start bumping off guys like Angel de Oro, Niebla Roja or Fuego. Perhaps Fuego found out he got bumped off and that triggered his rant. I don’t know, but the timing matches up.

Reporte Indigo has an interview with Avispa Dorada, happy to be living her dream of wrestling in Mexico. Like Costa Rica’s Sonya, Avispa mentions she mostly wrestled men in her home country because there were no luchadoras to face.

CMLL starts a look back at the top 10 moments of Blue Panther’s career, starting with being the first middleweight champion and training Halcon Suriano.

CMLL has a new video up promoting classes. Virus is teaching Tuesdays & Thursdays, Ultimo Dragoncito is teaching Mondays & Thursday, Hijo del Gladiador is teaching Monday, Thursday and Saturday and Tony Salazar is teaching Monday & Thursday. That’s a lot of classes on Thursday.

AAA said they won the AAA vs ELITE show in Aguascalientes. You can see a sliver of the Aerostar & Drago vs Flamita & Bandido on Facebook.

AAA posted Yo Soy Parka Negra. It is good but I would’ve liked it better if he just totally refused to break character the entire bit.

Ni Tu, Ni Yo, the new lucha libre movie including AAA wrestlers, opens in Mexico today. The lead characer in the movie is Halcon Negro, so they had a luchador who uses that name as part of the red carpet.

Bandido is being hyped as appearing in Australia at the end of November, which is odd since he’s also seemingly supposed to be in Dragon Gate at that time.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report, including a recap of Puma King’s interview with +Lucha and lots of Ultimo Guerrero on Informa.

The Gladiatores has an interview with Gilbert el Boricua.

+LuchaTV has the latest edition of Aqui esta la Lucha.

great match roundup, week of 2018-09-22

Cavernario smash

recaps

This was a boring week. These are delayed by playing Spider-Man too much. Spider-Man is better than most of these matches; even the good stuff wasn’t strongly good.

Recommended matches:

rating matches TV Show taped
good Black Panther vs Tiger in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 25 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-09-25 2018-09-25
good Hijo de LA Park, Mistico, Soberano Jr. vs Forastero, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2018-09-28 2018-09-28
good Carístico, Michael Elgin, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Cuatrero, Sansón LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2018-09-28 2018-09-28
good Hijo de LA Park & LA Park vs Cavernario & Rush LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-09-24 2018-09-24

Other matches watched

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Millenium, Robin, Súper Astro Jr. vs King Rocker Jr., Perverso, Policeman LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-09-24 2018-09-24
ok Black Panther, Blue Panther Jr., Stigma vs Ares (Costa Rica), Escualo (Costa Rica), Kaiser (Costa Rica) LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-09-24 2018-09-24
ok Diamante Azul, Kráneo, Volcano vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-09-24 2018-09-24
ok Carístico & Soberano Jr. vs La Bestia Del Ring & Negro Casas LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-09-24 2018-09-24
ok Lluvia, Marcela, Sonya De Costa Rica vs Amapola, La Seductora, Tiffany LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 25 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-09-25 2018-09-25
ok Audaz, Fuego, Rey Cometa vs Kawato San, Nitro, OkumuraLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 25 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-09-25 2018-09-25
ok Daga, Jeremiah Crane, Kobra Moon vs Ivelisse, Joey Ryan, XO Lishus [LU TRIOS] Lucha Underground: 2018-09-26 2018-03-10
ok Jake Strong vs DragoAerostar [nunchuck] Lucha Underground: 2018-09-26 2018-03-10
ok Pentagón Dark vs Mil MuertesDragón Azteca Jr.King Cuerno in a Number One Contenders Match match and [LU HEAVY] Lucha Underground: 2018-09-26 2018-03-10
ok La Guerrera, La Jarochita, Princesa Sugehit vs Dalys, Metálica, Reyna Isis LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2018-09-28 2018-09-28
ok Ángel de Oro, Flyer, Niebla Roja vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Templario LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2018-09-28 2018-09-28
ok Valiente vs Felino in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2018-09-28 2018-09-28
below average Ciber the Main Man, Scharly Rockstar, The Chris © vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero for the CMLL World Trios Championship LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2018-09-28 2018-09-28
not rated Bengala & Leono vs Apocalipsis & Cholo LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 25 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-09-25 2018-09-25
not rated Kráneo, Valiente, Volcano vs Luciferno, Máscara Año 2000, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 25 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-09-25 2018-09-25
not rated Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero, Rey Bucanero, Shocker LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES DE ARENA MEXICO 25 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2018-09-25 2018-09-25
not rated Matanza vs Jack Evans Lucha Underground: 2018-09-26 2018-03-10