CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2018-05-29 

Panther topes may be why Kawato doesn’t like catching dives

Recapped: 06/07/2018


Pequeño Olímpico & Pequeño Violencia beat Acero & Aéreo 
(15:56 [6:44, 3:51, 5:21], 1/3, n/r, via

Akuma, Hijo del Signo, Nitro beat Dick Riviere, Star Jr., Starman  
(12:14 [5:44, 2:25, 4:05], 1/3, ok, via

Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther beat Dragón Rojo Jr., Kawato San, Pólvora
(16:28 [6:13, 3:02, 7:13], 2/3, ok, via

Fuego beat Virus in a lightning match
(5:47, La Guelaguetza, ok, via

Stuka Jr., Titán, Tritón beat Ephesto, Felino, Luciferno
(10:37 [2:38, 3:59, 4:00], 2/3, ok, via

Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr. beat Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas
(7:07 [2:44, 3:08, 1:15], 1/3, ok, via

What happened: 



Riviere moonsault

There was so much early técnico offense that I thought they were just going two falls. Instead, they were just going with some short falls, including a third that went barely a minute. The rudos got control just long enough to take the second fall. Volador & Valiente looked flashy in what they did but it’s not like they had time to do a lot. Atlantis being in no bumps mode is actually a good thing in this match, but Atlantis getting even worse at attempting for the Atlantida is the opposite of the good thing. Either Atlantis suffered another injury or they need to just make up an injury at this point to give him cover. This is probably not great news for Tiburon either, who’s going to have to be rushed to make it.

The semimain was the usual spots from the usual guys in a brief amount of time. CMLL técnicos need an alternative spot from the apron beside the diving headscissors, it’s happening in way too many matches. Luiciferno really took Titan down hard on the powerbomb at the end of the match.

this did not go well for Titan

Long ago, Fuego & Virus had a really fun match that involved Fuego going way out of his comfort zone and doing a lot of mat wrestling to start to set up the big ending later. This was not that match, this was more bog standard lightning match action, setting up dives and then doing a pinfall. Fuego’s way more over now so maybe it’s working for him. This still was an action match, fitting in a bit more than the time would indicate, but it felt like a smidge of what they could do.

The tercera match was better off for going thru a long third fall, and running thru a lot of nears falls to make the match a little more exciting. It was ordinary otherwise, with the highlight being Tirantes not counting the second pinfall because he thought the Panthers were going to lift up the rudos for a nudo lagunero submission instead. Kawato took the Panther reverse 619 kick as hard as anyone has so far, one of a couple times Panther ended up hitting him very hard..

The second match was only really notable for France’s Dick Riviere making a one off appearance. He’s a Nitro trainee, from his time in APC promotion, and looked better than usual for these low level guest appearance. It was a little rehearsed, but he pulled off everything he seemed asked to do fine. The dive even went ok, though it’s made it weird CMLL allows the guy with the least experience to do a dive and no one else. Star Jr. looked leagues better than everyone here and then slipped when going for his second fall moonsault. That’s how it goes sometimes and he moved on quick.

Virus slam

Mexa Wrestling, IWRG, Puebla preview

Mexa Wrestling (SAT) 06/09/2018 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)Lucha Central, The Gladiatores]
1) Kempo (Chihuahua), Sirius (Chihuahua), Tiago, Venus (Chihuahua) b Baby Star, Pequeño Aéreo, Príncipe Azul, Torito Negro 10 de junio de 2018 (posted by CaritaJC LuchaLibre) P. Aéreo, Baby Star, Torito y Princesa Azul vs Axel Lee, Kempo, Sirius y Venus. (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
2) Guerrero Mixtico, Loquillo, Sádico, Yoruba b Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo 10 de junio de 2018 (posted by CaritaJC LuchaLibre)
3) Arez b Látigo Facebook video (posted by ) Latigo Vs AREZ (posted by Látigo vs Arez   ¡¡¡ MANO a MANO EN MEXA WESTLING !!! (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
4) Centvrión & Fly Star b Metaleón & Toxin Metaleón y Toxin Boy vs Centvrion y Fly Star en Mexa Westling (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
5) Keyra b ZeuxisLady Flammer 10 de junio de 2018 (posted by CaritaJC LuchaLibre) Keira vs Zeuxis vs Lady Flamer en Mexa Westling (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Zeuxis Vs Keyra Vs Lady Flamer (posted by
Lacey Lane made a surprise appearance to attack Keyra after the winner.
6) Steve Pain b El Bandido Bandido vs Steve Pain mano a la mano en Mexa Westling (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
7) Golden Boy & Símbolo (Monterrey) b Corsario Negro Jr. & Drako Corsario Negro Jr y Drako vs el Símbolo y Golden Boy en Mexa Westling (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Mexa Wrestling: El Símbolo y Golden Boy derrotan a La Fortaleza (Corsario Negro y Drako), en violent (posted by CaritaJC LuchaLibre)

Arez/Latigo, Pain/Bandido and Centvrion/Fly Star vs Metaleon/Toxin were said to be pretty good. The last one included an announcement of Toxin & Fly Star’s mask match on 08/04. That seemed like an even battle when the feud started on the last show and maybe not now with Toxin making an AAA TV appearance. That date also leaves open the possibility the Centvrion/Metaleon mask will take place Mexico Independence weekend, which seemed to be suggested earlier this year. Keyra/Zeuxis/Flammer was said to be disappointing.

I’ve got some video links now but I suspect there will be even more if you want a few days. Having a dozen people standing around filming their show for their own YouTube channels seems to be annoying to media actually covering the show and probably is costing the promotion money from selling the shows on their own, but I think it might have helped created a buzz for the good matches this group has been putting on this year: attendance seems to be going up.

IWRG (SUN) 06/10/2018 Arena Naucalpan [The Gladiatores]
1) Power Bull b Arquero
2) Demonio Infernal & Psycho Kid b Mexica & Shadow Boy
3) Hijo del Olímpico & The Tiger b Apolo Estrada Jr. & Dragón Bane
Lunatic Xtreme and Relampago were listed in this match and other matches on the card and appeared on other matches.
4) Leo, Mike, Rafy DQ Dr. Karonte, Lunatic Xtreme, Tortuga Teelo
two mystery men ran in to help Teelo for the DQ, who now has a group to take on his former friends.
5) Eterno, Ovett, Pit Bull, X-Fly b Danny Casas, Hijo de Canis Lupus, Relámpago, Veneno
Pepe Casas was in the crowd watching Danny. X-Fly and Ovett got into a fight despite winning the match.
6) Cerebro Negro & Dr. Cerebro b Emperador Azteca & Imposible and Trauma I & Trauma II
Match came down to Emperador Azteca vs Trauma I vs Cerebro Negro, with Cerebro coming up top. Cerebro wants a hair vs mask match with Trauma I. Emperador Azteca wanted in and put a title on the line (so he’s about to lose his title.)

Ovett versus X-Fly is a big feud. I hope Teelo has recruited Bebop and Rocksteady.

Arena Coliseo Guadalajara again quietly streamed Sunday’s (evening) show on it’s Facebook page.

CMLL’s Arena Puebla has a strange Flyer, Soberano, Volador versus Gran Guerrero, Titan and Ultimo Guerrero main event. Last week had Soberano & Titan wrestling each other in that week’s relevos increibles, but then Soberano pinned Titan for the win and it didn’t seem like it was going anywhere. Perhaps they’ll have a plan this week.

The semimain brings back the Kraneo/Ingobernables feud with Atlantis and Niebla Roja. Last week’s trios title match with NGD and Hijos del Infierno is now this week’s title match. The matches haven’t been strong. A title change is unlikely, though it has to be seen as a possibility – if they were just going to have NGD win, they could’ve done it last week with Hechicero.

Maya, Stuka & Triton take on Kawato, Okumura and Universo in the second match. Arkalis, Rey Samuray and Star Jr. are a good group of tecnicos going against Mayalyo, Disturbio and Hijo del Signo in the opener. The show will air on CMLL’s YouTube at 9pm.

Lucha Underground’s head writer Chris DeJoseph’s latest interview to promote Season 4 is with Bleacher Report. It’s good DeJoseph is doing these interviews, because it doesn’t seem like anyone else is this week but these really haven’t had much interesting into them. DeJoseph has walked up to the line of acknowledging the season starts with an important match, but otherwise understandably doesn’t want to give away too much about what happening, and can’t answer the big questions about the future of the production. LU really could use wrestlers on the show getting people excited, or someone in charge of Lucha Underground (not Eric Van Wagnen either, someone higher up) to convince fans there’s something to invest their interest here.

These interviews are still plenty useful for reminding people the still show exists and will be coming back on Wednesday. LU could use all the help they could there. If El Rey is still investing in the show, I’d suspect they’ll try to insert an ad on WWE RAW tonight too.

Lucha Underground Season 4, at least at the moment, does not appear to be airing on TLN in Canada. Telelatino was interesting for accidentally (?) airing some late season 3 episodes before they aired in the US. They’re still showing repeats of the series.

On his Facebook, Vampiro wrote the back suplex he took at Verano de Escandalo has left him unable to use his legs properly and left his hands without full functionality. He says he’s currently moving out of his place in Canada to live in Guadalajara full time.

Impact Wrestling has been announced as returning on 52MX starting on July 7th. Impact has aired on that channel in the past (and I’m honestly unsure when they stopped airing.) It does sort of give AAA another TV outlet with their wrestlers showing up on Impact, but that particular outlet has never seemed to mean anything for CMLL.


CMLL (SAT) 06/16/2018 Arena Coliseo
1) Arkalis, Bengala, Leono vs Apocalipsis, Grako, Inquisidor
2) Príncipe Diamante, Retro, Sangre Imperial vs Espanto Jr., Metálico, Yago
3) El Audaz, Stigma, Súper Astro vs Disturbio, Sangre Azteca, Virus
4) Ephesto, Luciferno, Máscara Año 2000 vs Hechicero, Kawato San, Okumura
5) Cuatrero, Sansón, Soberano Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Titán [Relevos Increíbles]

Look, CMLL is going to keep booking random relevos increibles until someone holds an intervention. Maybe this fits under trying to do different matchups

Arkalis is back here, so the Sunday show wasn’t a one off (like Principe Daniel & the other Guadalajara guys seems to have been at the moment.)

CMLL (SUN) 06/17/2018 Arena México
1) Astral & Eléctrico vs Akuma & El Coyote
2) Gallito, Micro Ángel, Microman vs Chamuel, Mije, Perico Zakarías
3) Estrellita vs MistiquePrincesa SugehitMarcelaMalignaDalysReyna IsisMetálicaLa SeductoraAmapola [cibernetico]
Amapola replaced La Guerrera this Monday.
4) Blue Panther vs Felino [lightning]
5) Atlantis, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
Atlantis replaced Diamante Azul on Friday after it was announced.
6) Mistico & Rush vs Cuatrero & Sansón
La Bestia del Ring & Cien Caras will be seconds

This was announced weeks ago, except for the one Guerrera/Amapola change. The match name was changed from Torneo Cibernetico Femenil to Torneo Cibernetico de Amazonas for surely critical reasons.

IWRG (SUN) 06/17/2018 Arena Naucalpan
1) Avisman vs Atomic Star
2) Black Dragón & Zatura vs Demonio Infernal & Hijo Del Mosco X-Fly
3) Hijo del Alebrije, Hijo del Olímpico, Mano Negra Jr. vs El Hijo del Diablo, Eterno, Golpeador
4) Oficial 911, Oficial AK47, Oficial Fierro vs Guardia, Oficial, Xibalba and Mega, Omega, Súper Mega
5) Internacional Pantera, Star Boy, Veneno vs Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro, Maniacop
6) El Fantasma, Mano Negra, Olímpico vs Coco Rojo, Enterrador 2000, Scorpió Jr.
7) Hijo de LA Park & LA Park vs Dragón Lee & Rush

CMLL luchadors appearing on non-Memes shows in Arena Naucalpan is very rare, so seeing the Rush/LA Park feud brought here feels meaningful. (Also feeling meaningful and maybe connected is Olimpico being booked in the semimian.) This is one IWRG’s Festival of Masks shows, where old wrestlers come back for one night in their old gimmicks. Wrestlers like the Oficials, the even older version of the Oficials and Internacional Pantera will get a chance to wear the mask they lost. Mano Negra will also be honored.

CMLL Puebla: 2018-05-28 


Recapped: 06/06/2018


Espíritu Maligno & King Rocker beat Meyer & Millenium
(11:37 [6:09, 2:10, 3:18], 2/3, n/r, via

Lestat, Oro Jr., Rey Samuray beat Fuerza Chicana, Gemelo Pantera I, Gemelo Pantera II
(13:23 [5:41, 2:05, 5:37], 2/3, n/r, via

Fuego, Pantera Blanca, Stigma beat King Jaguar, Pólvora, Universo 2000 Jr.
(15:28 [3:58, 3:48, 7:42], 2/3, n/r, via

Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto beat Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón  
(11:15 [4:39, 6:36], 1/2, below average, via

Mistico, Soberano Jr., Volador Jr. beat Cavernario, Felino, Mr. Niebla
(7:26 [1:32, 2:24, 3:30], 2/3, ok, via

Último Guerrero beat Terrible
(13:52 [3:22, 3:28, 7:02], 2/3 DQ, below average, via

What happened: 

Tirantes helped distracted Último Guerrero to set up Terrible’s dropkick in the first fall. UG attempted to replaced Tirantes with Terror Chino in the third fall to no avail and Tirantes continued to get involved. Terrible fouled UG no real reason.

Mephisto fouled Sansón and faked a foul, getting the DQ call for his team. Tirantes earlier slow counted the NGD on multiple pins. Challenges followed.



This was a bad show. I passed by the first half without even giving it a try for good reason, and the second half wasn’t much better.

The main event was a disappointment. They led off with Terrible dominant brawling, which really didn’t come off to hot. It was met int the middle by Tirantes interjecting himself in the match. It was the second time in the night that he turned the focus of a match on him. Like the other match, there’s a potential justification – they wanted to make sure the fans understood Guerrero was the técnico tonight – but it was even more unneeded this time and seemed to happen primarily to put the attention the referee. That worked, the crowd was going nuts to get rid of Tirantes after the second fall with Guerrero playing into it, but the match wasn’t helped by it. The third fall had the Guerrero cliches and a pointlessly inconclusive ending that made the whole thing feel like a waste. These two have had some good moments in tag matches but maybe they’re not meant to have a strong singles match if this was the most they were willing to do on this night.

The semimain was close to an average match in front of a favorable crowd. Even then, it was not up to the usual standards, with some clunky moments form people who work together all the time. Soberano looked a little off, Mistico looked a little slower than usual, and Volador was barely in this match. This is a passing grade only so I don’t have to spend any time thinking about a match not wroth any thought.

A nothing match controlled by the older rudos. Or more grinded to a halt. They barely did anything for the second fall, Tirantes decided he was either protecting the young guys who were going to lose in two falls or getting himself over by slow counting the Dinamitas on their comeback (slowing down the action even farther), and it made for a thoroughly boring waste of time.