Rey Fenix wins match & crowd in CMLL debut, AAA/MSG details, ELITE returns 07/21

Rey Fenix

CMLL (FRI) 06/08/2018 Arena México [CMLL, El GraficoESTOEstrellas del RingLucha CentralOvacionesthecubsfan]
1) Oro Jr. & Star Jr. b Cancerbero & Raziel LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE JUNIO  DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
15:25. Tecnicos took 2/3.
2) Puma, Tiger, Virus b Drone, Fuego, Tritón LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE JUNIO  DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:21. Rudos took 1/3.
3) Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón b Audaz, Soberano Jr., Titán LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE JUNIO  DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
18:42. NGD took 1/3.
4) Hechicero b Stuka Jr. [lightningLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE JUNIO  DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
8:28. Hechicero won with Magia Negra
5) Carístico, Mistico, Rey Fénix b Cavernario, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero ¡¡¡  HIGHLIGHTS REY FÉNIX EN LA ARENA MÉXICO !!! (posted by Estrellas del Ring) LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE JUNIO  DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:32. Tecnicos took 2/3. Rey Fenix’s debut, where he did well and was well over.
6) Hijo de LA Park, LA Park, Volador Jr. DQ La Bestia Del Ring, Rush, Terrible [Relevos IncreíblesLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE JUNIO  DE 2018 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:47. Straight falls, with Rush being DQed for fouls and referee attacks in both falls. Rush is willing to have the singles match with LA Park but Park wants it to be super libre.

This was an enjoyable match without a sure fire standout match. The Rey Fenix match was surely the match of the night, though even then Fenix was showing off more what he could do that no one here does and not going (or needing to go) full out. Every media recap of Fenix’s first match seems to start with the word “exitosa” – successful.

There is a bit of diminishing returns in the Park/Rush trios creatively, but it still seems to be drawing very well.

Post match promos:  Star Jr. & Oro Jr.HechiceroRey FenixLos Ingobernables.

+LuchaTV also posted the press interviews with Rey Fenix, Mistico & Caristico.

Today’s shows include Volador vs Rush in Arena Coliseo & a Mexa Wrestling show with Bandido versus Steve Pain and Zeuxis’ debut with the promotion. Mexa Wrestling has been my favorite indie this year (helped a lot by actually being able to see full matches from a good position via Carxyus’ Facebok)

ELITE posted a short video teasing July 21st in Mexico as a return. While everyone’s understandably making jokes about ELITE disappearing sometime around July 22nd, that 07/21 has also notably already been announced as an AAA taping in Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera. I do not know for sure if AAA is doing a roster split or some other situation where they begin running ELITE shows as a sibling promotion, but the pieces are starting to fit. All those extra AAA TV tapings make sense if they’re actually alternating between AAA & ELITE. It may be a month before a taping, yet we may get another press conference explaining what’s going on before then.

Konnan, at the start of the latest edition of his Keepin’ It 100 podcast, confirmed the AAA/MSG story as something being working on. (It’s also referenced in La Parka’s Record column.) Konnan explains it as a potential deal with a “humongous Spanish station, they’re going to be behind this, promote this, and maybe taping this for a TV show.” It’s not really said if this is a TV or radio station, and if the date is dependent on making that deal. Running a show in MSG with other people’s money is the only way this makes sense for AAA. It may not closely resemble the AAA shows in Mexico; Konnan pitched it as including nostalgia acts as well as new ones, plus people who the New York fans would be familiar with. Konnan also happens to mentions AAA is running the Los Angeles Forum (no date mentioned) and the September trip to Colombia. Konnan wasn’t aware until recently that the Space channel is airing in South America and they’re all interested to see if that helps open the area for AAA tours.

In more general details, Konnan talked about his crazy travel leading into Monterrey: Pachuca for that taping, then to Los Angeles for the Mundo/Taya wedding, then Toronto area for the Impact tapings and then Verano de Escandalo. He was still writing Verano on the way to it, saying a lot of things changed at the last minute. That again suggests Konnan was under the impression Rey Fenix was winning the title in his return and told AroLucha. Konnan pegs the attendance for the show at 7 to 8,000, lower than the WON number. Jeff Jarrett told Konnan he wasn’t in wrestling shape and Konnan totally agreed after seeing him in that match, but was really excited about how that big angle came off and the entire show. Konnan was asked about Vampiro, and said it’s not easy to work with him because Vampiro is all over the place as if he has ADHD, but Vampiro is also on his best behavior because he’s aware he’s on the short leash. I read that as ownership told Konnan that he had to give Vamprio a chance to stay part of the team, and Vampiro may be out the door on his next mistake.

Meta: I’m really not excited by the idea of getting back on transcribing Konnan podcasts again. There usually is some depth to stories that only come out in sparse details (like finding out more about the MSG plan) but it also ends with spending a lot of time writing about stuff that doesn’t end up going anywhere. This one was really easy, it was literally the first thing on his podcast, and I still wasn’t excited to do it. So I don’t know what to do about that.

Lucha Underground posted a Pentagon Dark promo to hype the Lucha Underground Season 4 Premiere. has a two part interview with head writer Chris DeJoseph about season 4.

TNT Germany, which carries the first run episodes of Lucha Underground there, announced they’ll start airing Season 4 on 06/16. That’s the same week as in the US, the first time they’ve been that up to date. Canada’s TLN was the only other market doing the same, and I haven’t seen if they’ll be doing it for Season 4.

Bengala announced he has been cleared to return to the ring. Bengala has been advertised on shows, but we haven’t actually seen him in three months, since a March 4th on Rey de Reyes. He went on the reality show with Suicide, Hades and Lady Shani, and suffered the foot injury diving in the water as part of a challenge. Bengala had been teaming with Hijo del Fantasma against Texano & Tirantes when we last saw him. That feud has been dropped cold so I’m not sure where he’ll fit back in.

Hijo de Octagon took America’s mask last Saturday in a cage match. No name announced in that video. America is either a Zamora local or someone just using the gimmick for the night, and was obviously losing the moment they announced the match.

Is Teddy Hart Still In AAA Watch: he’s not listed in AAA’s description of the multiman match from Tijuana. I wonder if they edit out his non-entrance?

Roberto Figueroa confirmed Tiburon is Atlantis Jr.


CMLL (FRI) 06/15/2018 Arena México
1) Shockercito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro
2) Blue Panther Jr., Pegasso, The Panther vs Kawato San, Okumura, Universo 2000 Jr.
3) Esfinge, Titán, Tritón vs Felino, Puma, Tiger
4) Hijo de LA Park, Niebla Roja, Valiente vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) Carístico vs Dragón Lee [lightning]
6) LA Park, Rey Fénix, Volador Jr. vs Cibernético, Rush, Terrible [Relevos Increíbles]

The big story is Puma & Tiger have made it all the way to the tercera they’re not running Rush/Park in a singles yet. I was sure CMLL was going to peak before the World Cup and then go a lot quieter for a few months. You can throw that theory out the door if they’re still saving that match.

Cibernetico is back. It’s his first CMLL match since ELITE’s last return on February 11. I don’t think this has anything to do with this next ELITE return – Konnan & Cibernetico are said not to be close – but a general plan to continue the summer of Friday night guest stars. Cibernetico fits in personality with Rush & Terrible. A better base would’ve been nice for Fenix & Volador.

This 06/15 is believed to be the only free Friday in June for Penta, so don’t count on seeing him very soon despite a tease last night. He’s still be coming, just may take some pateience. Other surprising names may be in the pipeline.

Caristico/Dragon Lee is a rematch of the “Dragon Lee suffers a horrible looking leg injury but turns out to be relatively ok” match from a month ago.

CMLL on 2018-06-08 

LA Kamaitachi versus Rush Lee

Recapped: 06/08/2018


Oro Jr. & Star Jr. beat Cancerbero & Raziel
(15:25 [6:38, 4:00, 4:47], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Puma, Tiger, Virus beat Drone, Fuego, Tritón  
(14:21 [4:22, 3:24, 6:35], 1/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Audaz, Soberano Jr., Titán
(18:42 [4:11, 5:09, 9:22], 1/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

Hechicero beat Stuka Jr. in a lightning match
(8:28, Magia Negra, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

Carístico, Mistico, Rey Fénix beat Cavernario, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero
(13:32 [5:50, 2:06, 5:36], 2/3, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Hijo de LA Park, LA Park, Volador Jr. beat La Bestia Del Ring, Rush, Terrible in a relevos increíbles match
(14:47 [5:24, 9:23], 1 DQ/2 DQ, good, via VideosOficialesCMLL )

What happened: 

This was great

This week’s main event went to straight fall disqualifications. Rush both fouled LA Park & attacked the referee in both falls, and unmasked LA Park after the match. Rush accepted the idea of a singles match, if CMLL was willing to make it, though LA Park still specifically wants a super libre match and still wants the mask versus hair match.

Rey Fenix made his CMLL debut and was strongly received by the fans with loud chants during and after the match.


This was the least of the three LA Park/Rush matches so far. They were still pretty good, with LA Park’s spear/dive on Rush working great and the totally unexpected German suplex sequence. It was more the secondary players the issue. Terrible & Volador Jr. were in the background. I guess Hijo de LA Park & Pierroth were too, but their bad nights still stuck out. It made for a messy match, with Hijo de LA Park looking like he didn’t belong in the main event this time. It’s not hurting this feud, but this is also not a feud that needs to be in trios matches for months. I hope they’re doing the singles match next week.

Fenix’s introduced to the serious and stable CMLL

CMLL introduced Rey Fenix first as the least important luchador. He was clearly the biggest star in the match on the end, drawing in people who wanted to see what he’d do in his Arena Mexico debut. Fenix delivered, with an outstanding run of signature offense that made him stand out even in a promotion full of flyers. The luchadors might have figured what the people who sorted the entrance order did not, giving Fenix the spotlight spot at the end of the third fall to wrestle all of the técnicos. Outside of one heel kick that didn’t quite hit, Fenix was sharp with everything and felt like the biggest deal on the show. The rudos worked well with him, and Mistico & Carístico had good nights too, but this was just Fenix’s night.

Hechicero/Stuka was the third most exciting of the three undercard matches, but it was still a good match. It wasn’t as high speed as the other ones, and the crowd just didn’t seem into it. They still had some good action and build spots on top of each other. Hechicero doesn’t do the plancha onto the ropes much and used it well here. His submission catch on the finish was well timed. Stuka’s moonsault looked good too.


The tercera was the better of the two undercard trios match, with bigger spots from the técnicos and a little bit more creativity on the finishes. I enjoyed the técnicos being dumped over the barricade so the NGD could 3 on 1 Titan to win the second fall. The timing on the third fall finish was superb. The NGD were good most of the match but slightly off on two of their bigger spots. Audaz remains great. I wish CMLL would cut back on the overhead camera shot so we could get a better sense of height on big moves. It looked like Audaz jumped impressively for his late headscissors but we couldn’t really tell.

This week’s Puma/Tiger never reached the heights of some of the previous matches but did maintain a solid level throughouht. Fuego was the smoothiest of the técnicos. Puma & Virus had pretty good nights, with Virus doing the usual low level cool things he always does. I’m surprised more people don’t try the ringpost armdrag because the move is so great.

Audaz is great

The opener was slightly better than usual. The técnicos didn’t get completely shut down, though it still felt like the rudos controlled a lot of match before they took the loss. Oro & Star had an error free match, which is the best case for the openers with these rudos involved. It’d be nice if we could just have a good opener though.