2018 watch later catch up, part 4 of ∞


you’ll have to trust me that there was a wrestler he dove onto

As Del Espacio & As Del Espacio Jr. vs Hijo De Rey Pantera & Rey Pantera Jr., masks vs masks
(PANTERA @ Arena Xalapa on 01/14, 29:10 [1:41, 3:28, 24:01], great, via
Xalapa es)

Match starts at 6:55 (no whistle), but you miss Rey Pantera Jr. jamming with a band if you skip the intros. I am immediately angry that both teams are basically wearing black and silver

A dramatic and emotionally satisfying apuesta battle, a match both made greater by the stake and one that made the masks themselves feel more important by being on the line in something this hard fought. This is a long watch, and one that occasionally feels like typical lucha indie brawling early on. It grows into something bigger as it goes on, and the best wrestling sequences feel like they’re in the last half of the third fall. As del Espacio Jr.’s impressive dives took place late, as did a superplex that seemed like it could’ve finished both men. I didn’t like the meaningless chair spots, but it was part of them keeping up the intensity on near falls for an extended period of time. Again, this is a long time, and I’m not sure if everyone’s going to be want to spend that much time with people they don’t really know, but these fans definitely did know them and care all the way. Even just the fans crowding around the ring in the third fall made it feel something special, not a regular match with people sitting down and watching, but an event masses of people were drawn towards. (Watching fans repeatedly push the bottom rope to help their side get out of submission holds was something.) The finish was superb and something that might be stolen by a half dozen other people if it was happening some place more well known, and the reaction to the loss was incredible. I think there will be better wrestling matches but this was as good a scene as you’ll get in.

early in the match, when there was actually space next to the ring
nothing happened here, it’s still great

Princesa Sugehit vs Zeuxis
(Pura Raza @ Arena Lopez Mateos on 03/03, 8:51, ok, via
hector godfrey)

A perfectly fine match that’s also a disappointment because if these two aren’t having an obviously good match than who exactly among the CMLL women will? It’s fun how enraged the front row becomes when Zeuxis tosses a beer at Sugehit and mostly gets the fans, and everyone’s entertained by Sugehit getting revenge, but it leaves the match as a lot of walk and grab thru the crowd semi-brawling. They’re in the ring for the start and fort the finish not much more, and the brawling wasn’t compelling enough to make this really worthwhile.

the women in the green jacket should be Zeuxis’ next oppponent

Sádico & Yoruba vs Audaz & Titán
(Pura Raza @ Arena Lopez Mateos on 03/03, 20:37, good, via 
hector godfrey)

The pairs match started off pretty well, but Yoruba & Sadico seemed to get sloppy as the match went on and cooled my enthusiasm for the match. It was never the action match I thought it could be; Titan looked like the best guy in the match, but he spent a lot of time with chops and kicks and not a lot of flying. They might have done a little better if they had cut a few minutes of the match (especially after the dive.) Audaz felt way into the background until the end, and not showing up as big on a non-CMLL seems a tiny bit of a bad sign. There still was fun sequences, I just thought it’d look a little sharper.

Titan has good timing
Audaz tornillo
the king of Lopez Mateos

Blue Panther vs Hechicero
(Pura Raza @ Arena Lopez Mateos on 03/03, 12:02, good, via
hector godfrey

What Happened:

This match goes to a surprise overtime period. It’s enough of a surprise that both the complete hector godfrey video and the Estrellas del Ring edited video don’t include it. The R de Rudo clips do have a few moments.


Hechicero versus Blue Panther was a well worked match, but well worked mostly by one man. It was tough to consider Blue Panther a threat to Hechicero when Hechicero seemed to be 90% of the work, especially after the early mat portion. Hechicero was doing his own offense and Blue Panther’s offense in moments. The crowd was still way into Blue Panther and that’s an obvious reason for him still to be in this role but I was left wanting to see someone in that spot who maybe wouldn’t be as over but would have more to contribute.

llave battle
Panther just along for the ride

Dragón Lee, Mistico, Rush vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
(Pura Raza @ Arena Lopez Mateos on 03/03, 13:58, good, via
hector godfrey)

The Dinamitas/Munoz brawl to start it off was a lot of fun. Dragon Lee can brawl well when he’s given a chance to do it, and was more interesting at it than his brothers. The crowd, even for a CMLL focused indie show, didn’t seem to totally know the NGD trio and were surprised by the monkey flip attack. The match slowed down a lot when they finally got to their corners. It wasn’t bad, but there needed to be an escalation after the técnicos ran thru their offense, and instead in just seemed to come to a sudden end. This was still entertaining but left me thinking there was a lot more they could’ve done.

Forastero crushes Rush
Dragon Lee inverted ‘rana

Ricky Marvin vs Dr. Cerebro
(IWRG @ Arena Naucalpan on 03/04, 11:03, good, via
IWRG tv)

A very good first fall to a three fall match, only it was a one fall match. Cerebro & Marvin went onto fight many more ties so I guess it still works. This was worked at a strongly medium pace, everything looking solid if never overwhelming action. It’s not as violent as Marvin’s Lucha Memes work but it did make up with it for smoothiness. I wasn’t sure if I really wanted to watch this entire program but this match was good enough to want more. Some authentically bad lucha libre refereeing on the finish.

no fun for the Doc
I lost my GIF notes for this match but this was good

Cavernario beats Marvin in Cara Lucha contra Lucha Memes, Wagner in IWRG, CMLL women’s title tonight

photo by Black Terry Jr.

LuchaMemes CaraLucha (SUN) 04/22/2018 Coliseo Coacalco, Coacalco, Estado de México [+LuchaTV, Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)R de Rudo]
1) Dragón Negro & Pumita De Oro b Estrella De Oro & Príncipe Aéreo
2) Torito Negro, Toro Negro II, Toro Negro Jr. b Alas de Acero, Aramis, Demasiado
3) Corsario Negro Jr., Drako, Fresero Jr., Gato De Ecatepec b Fly Warrior, Sky Man, Toxin, Yoruba
4) Iron Kid b Eterno
5) Templario © b Dr. Cerebro [Cara Lucha The Best]
good match. Templario third defense, first since July.
6) Arez, Belial, Impulso b Danger King, Guerrero Mixtico, Torito Negro
Torito Negro replaced Andy Boy.
7) Cavernario b Ricky Marvin Ricky Marvin vs Cavernario en la Arena Coliseo Coacalco en Cara Lucha vs Lucha Memes. (posted by Estrellas del Ring)
very good match.

It sounds like the trios match might have been the best, and the best at creating the dueling promotions/fanbase environment. Good reviews for the main event too. Cara Lucha isn’t really running and this seemed to be a Lucha Memes show, but they were still egalitarianism about splitting the wins 3-3. There’s a lot more that goes into promotions working together but that seems like a good start.

The show also included a marriage proposal.

IWRG (SUN) 04/22/2018 Arena Naucalpan [Black Terry Jr. (Flickr)The Gladiatores]
1) Shadow Boy b Toto
2) Dinamic Black, Diosa Atenea, Diva Salvaje b Dragón Bane, Lady Cat, Lili Dark
Lady Cat replaced by Reina del Sur. Dinamic Black complimented Dragon Bane post match and fofered a singles match.
3) Leo, Mike, Rafy, Teelo DQ Factor, Liderk, Spartan, Spector
straight falls, last by DQ.
4) Aramis, Emperador Azteca, Hijo de Canis Lupus b Cerebro Negro, Dr. Cerebro, Ovett
5) Imposible © b El Hijo del Medico Asesino [IWRG Rey del Ring]
fourth defense, first since September.
6) Mr. Electro, Rey Wagner, Veneno DQ Capo del Norte, Dark Magic, Máscara Año 2000 Jr.
Veneno was honored for 25 years in wrestling. Debut of Dark Magic, who is from Michigan. Mascara 2000 fouled Rey Wagner for the DQ. Mascara wants a hair vs hair match and a heavyweight title versus heavyweight title match.

Attendance was way up for the Dr. Wagner appearance.

There’s two CMLL women’s singles match this week. Tonight’s Arena Puebla will probably have the better of the two. Dalys defends her CMLL Women’s Championship against Kaho Kobayashi in the fourth match of the card, which is also higher on the card than the Sugehit/Seductora hair match on Friday. Kaho’s close to finishing up her Mexico tour, though she’s booked this upcoming weekend in Monterrey so this must not be her last match. She’d be a surprise champion, not having presented too strongly to this point. Dalys matches seem often too rehearsed, which might work in the favor in creating a big singles match this time.

The main event has Caristico, Kraneo, and Ultimo Guerrero vs Terrible, Valiente and Volador. This is the second week of a Relevos Increibles, which usually sets up something when Rush isn’t involved. Maybe Terrible/Kraneo? Cavernario, Felino and Negro Casas team up against Atlantis, Diamante Azul and Soberano in the semimain. Audaz & Virus meet in the tercera, with Lestat, Tigre Rojo, Disturbio and Kawato. Principe Diamante & Robin take on Malayo & King Jaguar, and Astro & Meyer face Espiritu Maligno & Rey Apocalipsis.

CultIcon previews this show. It’ll start at 9pm on CMLL’s YouTube.

Dragon Lee is listed on a poster for the NJPW Best of Super Junior to no big surprise. It’s going to be news if he’s ever not in that tournament. There’s still no update from CMLL on what his actual health status is. He is listed on Friday’s CMLL card. CMLL typically will decide on Monday afternoon if luchadors are healthy enough to wrestle that week and quietly make changes on their website. As of 1pm CT, they hadn’t taken Lee out of the lineup and had no other updated on his status.

Mr. Niebla talked about battling his alcohol addiction at his 25th Anniversary show. Shocker missed the main event there.

Segunda Caida reviews yesterday’s Hugo Lucha Lucha show from Sunday.


CMLL (SAT) 04/28/2018 Arena Coliseo
1) Bengala, Retro, Sangre Imperial vs Cholo, Grako, Yago
2) Magia Blanca, Pegasso, Príncipe Diamante vs Espanto Jr., Príncipe Odín Jr., Templario
3) Ángel, Gallito, Microman vs Chamuel, Mije, Perico Zakarías
4) Blue Panther Jr., Soberano Jr., The Panther vs Cavernario, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero
5) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Volador Jr. vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón

Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja calling in the big gun to deal with NGD.

Micros on this show suggest they’re not going to be on Sunday or probably Monday.

CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2018-04-06

Titan & Euforia

Recapped: 04/14/2018


Cancerbero & Raziel beat Astral & Eléctrico
(14:32 [6:05, 4:47, 3:40], 1/3, good, via

Drone, Fuego, Tritón beat Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado
(10:45 [3:23, 4:12, 3:10], 1/3, ok, via

Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas beat Kawato San, Okumura, Sam Adonis
(11:52 [4:43, 1:41, 5:28], 2/3 DQ, ok, via

Valiente beat Stuka Jr. in a lightning match
(5:25, seated armbar, good, via

Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero beat Dragón Lee, Mistico, Titán
(14:59 [7:59, 1:31, 5:29], 1/3, good, via

Atlantis, Carístico, Volador Jr. vs Kráneo, La Bestia Del Ring, Rush in a relevos increíbles match
(5:34 [1:06, 2:11, 2:17], 2/3, below average, via

What happened:

things go well for Astral

Rush & Bestia ignore Kraneo early on, not letting him participate in beatings. Kraneo finally works his way in by slamming Carístico in the second fall. Kraneo refuses to pass the invisible ball back to Rush, and La Besita dropkicks him for it. That turns the match for the tecnicos. Rush & Bestia accidentally hit Kraneo in the third fall, Kraneo throw Bestia back in the ring at one point, and Rush attacked Kraneo on the outside. Kraneo splashed Los Ingobernables in the third fall to get them pinned, and then cut off Terrible with a belly bump when he tried running in.

Sam Adonis fouled Negro Casas for the DQ. This was meant to set up a singles match the following week, but it was changed to Soberano/Casas instead.

Eléctrico & Astral changed their team finish so one does a springboard splash, then the other, to prevent any more accidental head injuries when they both at the same time.


not a delayed sell, Stuka felt that tope and decided to leave wrestling

It’s probably better just to pretend the previous week’s main event was Kraneo’s turn instead of this one, because the crowd treated this one like it didn’t much matter. The third fall felt anticlimactic, with the match essentially over as soon as Rush dropkicked Kraneo. They crowd didn’t react as much to it. If I had watched this show live, I have been concerned the turn wasn’t going to get over. It did better the following week, so maybe chalk it up to a crowd that wasn’t into Los Ingobernables enough to care about this match.

There’s been plenty of variations of the semimian match before and they don’t exactly break a lot of new ground. They are incredibly fast and effective with what they do. The técnicos all getting lots of moments to shine, and the Guerreros pulled out a lot of unique moments only they seem to do. Titan seemed to get the most of this match from the técnicos, and Euforia had another strong outing. This was borderline great match, and worth going back to see if you missed this show.

heck of an impact

The lightning match was a quick but entertaining match, working off the idea that Stuka and Valiente are similar in size and style. The outcome definitely said Valiente was better than Stuka, who got destroyed by topes and never came close to winning. They did enough to get over the idea of them being similar before it, and Valiente looked impressive on the way to winning.

The rudos/Peste Negra match was less Sam Adonis & Negro Casas feuding than I was expecting, given they were supposed to have a singles match the next week. They faced off all match, but it never got as hot as it was in the past. Felino & Kawato didn’t work together well at points, and the match never developed into a lot.

Los Guerreros

The second match was the usual level for the midlevel guys. Timing was good on moves, action was fine, but it also felt like they were just having a normal second match. I don’t understand why, but the shoulder tape makes Misterioso look even fatter. Or maybe his gut was just bigger than usual today. Fuego remains very popular.

Give Raziel, Cancerbero, Astral and Eléctrico enough tries and they’ll eventually produce a good match. The muscle minis are still wrestling robots, going thru spots with no indication there is a crowd present, but they hit all those spots this time. Raziel & Cancerbero were professionals and winners this time around, keeping the match together and getting to long strong in the end for it. This was a lot more watchable than the past attempts, though also probably as good as it gets unless they add another dimension to the match. Any wrestling move that involves one person tossing their victim to another person is a good wrestling move.