CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-12-22 

he survived

Recapped: 12/22/2017

Matches: 

Fiero & Oro Jr. beat Raziel & Templario
(5:48 [2:45, 3:03], 1/2 DQ, ok, YouTube)

Puma, Tiger, Virus beat Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Soberano Jr. 
(13:31 [5:34, 4:22, 3:35], 2/3, good, YouTube)

Ángel de Oro, Mistico, Niebla Roja beat Cavernario, Cuatrero, Negro Casas
(14:46 [6:12, 2:35, 5:59], 2/3, good, YouTube)

Rush defeated Mr. NieblaÚltimo Guerrero, Terrible, Shocker, Sansón, Kráneo, EuforiaMáscara Año 2000Rey BucaneroGran GuerreroForastero, PierrothHechiceroMisterioso Jr.Vangellys  to win CMLL’s Leyenda de Azul tournament
(28:40, ok, YouTube – right to the match, skipping the battle royal)

  1. Sansón submitted Misterioso Jr. (9:10)
  2. Hechicero Magia Negra Vangellys (13:11)
  3. Pierroth Boston crab Mascara 2000 (13:34)
  4. Euforica on Shocker (14:12)
  5. Rey Bucanero small package Forastero (15:16)
  6. Mr. Niebla Nieblina Rey Bucanero (17:58)
  7. Mr. Niebla pin Gran Guerrero (21:30)
  8. Gran Guerrero pin Mr. Niebla (21:30)
  9. Rush corner dropkick Hechicero (22:20)
  10. Kraneo running hipcheck Sanson (23:05)
  11. Terrible drokick Kraneo (23:32)
  12. Último Guerrero Pulpo Guerrero Terrible (24:33)
  13. Rush pin Último Guerrero w/help from Pierroth (25:44)
  14. Euforia armabr Pierroth (26:54)
  15. Rush martillo negro Euforia (28:40)

Carístico beat Volador Jr.
(15:26, 2/3, great, YouTube)

  1. Volador backcracker (2:56)
  2. Carístico torito (2:55)
  3. Carstico La Caristica (9:35)

What happened:

Templario and Raziel probably could’ve just won the second fall

Carístico challenged Volador to a NWA World Welterweight championship match for next week. Volador said OK, before playing around doing it tonight and then walking out.

Pierroth & Rush fought, but only for a moment before hugging, and teamed up to cheat Último Guerrero out of the tournament. Rush at first mocked the trophy, then seemed happier with the belt.

Sansón unmasked Angel de Oro for no obvious reason.

Rudos had the técnicos dead to rigths in the second fall of the opener, but choose to unmask them instead for the DQ.

Thoughts:

welcome back Kraneo

Carístico dying on a missed dive early on gave this match with a Volador a different feel from the start. Volador repeatedly waiting in the ring for Carsitico to climb back, content with a countout win but more eager just to kick Carístico’s head in as he got into the ring, made sure he came strongly as a rudo and that this was something more move turn taking. They still did a lot of big spots, and Carístico seemed to recover from his death a little too easily, but they got the fans into it after some less than interesting stuff that preceded it. Volador going for La Mistica as the ultimate humiliation and getting caught in the other way was a smart finish for Caristico’s big win. Next week is going to be challenging, I’m not sure there’s enough there to come back for a third singles match between them in such short time. I don’t blame them for trying.

The Leyenda de Azul tournament didn’t seem to have any reason to exist, except that somehow Rush hadn’t won one of the 30 different tournaments or titles CMLL had this year so I guess that had to be checked off before the calendar page turned. Crowd seemed to tire of this concept about 7 minutes in and these guys weren’t the ones to get them back. Mr. Niebla had a really good night and some guys (Euforia, Terrible) had obvious fun working as técnicos for limited periods, but this was a really long match that didn’t go anywhere interesting. There are better ways to use your time.

Niebla was in good form

The tercera was alright, but after two matches that were almost what they could’ve been, I was again hoping for a little bit more. The crowd was so into cheering Negro Casas and booing Mistico that it kind overshadowed everything else. It made it more memorable that way, though it was fighting the way they wanted the match to go. Angel de Oro’s moonsault to the floor on Cuatrero in the second fall was really well timed.

The second match looked like it could be great, especially with Soberano added to the match. It felt more like they worked to the position on the card, with some fast moving action but not going over the top with big action as they shown at other times. Everything they did try looked pretty well, with some good timing on on a slightly unusual sequence at the end, but I think people might still view this one as a little bit of disappointment given the names involved.

The opener was all about letting people know these people are having a cage match in three days by shredding everyone’s masks. They did get a few good spots, and it’d be nice to get a real version of this match someday. Fiero & Templario looked nervous in the first fall, but a lot steadier in the second fall. They did a cool reversal of Fiero’s finishing armbar into a powerbomb that would’ve been way over if people knew it was Fiero’s finish. The match didn’t go long enough see if Raziel was actually trying, but his suplex at the end was cool.

Angel de Oro timing

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-12-12 

one of many times where I’ve wondered what Idol is doing

Recapped: 12/18-19/2017

Matches:

Bengala & Sonic vs Espíritu Negro & Yago
(
10:07 [4:57, 3:37, 1:33], 2/3, ok, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Sangre Azteca beat Flyer, Magnus, Príncipe Diamante
(18:00 [10:10, 3:04, 4:46], 1/3, below average, VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus beat  Fuego, Oro Jr., Starman 
(5:57 [2:48, 3:09], 1 DQ/2, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Misterioso Jr. beat Tiger in a lightning match
(7:36, Gori Bomb, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Marco Corleone, Stuka Jr., Titán beat Cavernario, Shocker, Vangellys
(12:33 [4:36, 5:11, 2:46], 1/3, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Johnny Idol, Okumura, Sam Adonis beat Dragón Lee, Valiente, Volador Jr.  
(11:15 [2:54, 2:27, 5:54], 1/3, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

What happened: 

Shocker’s back is broken

Misterioso took Tiger’s mask after their match.

Rudos (w/Mije) attacked the técnicos at the start. Tecnicos rallied and Starman unmasked Raziel for the DQ. Of note, Starman gets Raziel with his finish in the third fall but Raziel kicks out, then beats Starman with a powerbomb for the win.

I tried watching a Sangre Azteca/Arkangel match to see if Flyer or Magnus did anything cool and I really should’ve known better. I apologize to all the people I’ve let down by masking this mistake. Magnus’ uppercut is coming along anyway.

Thoughts: 

Magnus’ uppercut is really coming along

I wasn’t convinced the Sky Team/foreigners feud would work, but they showed enough here that it might turn out pretty OK. To be fair, this was helped a lot by Dragon Lee being a ball of energy and I’m not sure Mistico would be the same, but the rudos were able to keep up with enough action to feel like a big match. Johnny Idol is the weak link, still making mistakes on the rudos side. Maybe he’ll get better yet, but right now he just comes off as lucky there wasn’t another foreigner around when they needed a third. Dragon Lee is a good guy to have around if you want to get over a DDT as a finish. Okumura taking the hanging bump off the double stomp onto his head/neck didn’t seem to as great an idea (and he turned a lot so his shoulder would take it.)

Semimain was the usual Marco Corleone match. Titan and Cavenario getting each other’s face makes me sad we’re not getting that direct match much any more. Shocker was doing a lot of comedy reactions in this match, which is something he’s still pretty good at.

Tiger played the role of generic técnico in his lightning match. He did it fine, his tornillo was cool, and I was pleasantly surprised by the ‘rana off the top. It’s just tough to get much interesting out of Misterioso in a singles match, and this was no different. Apparently Misterioso’s finish is the most deadly in the world because he doesn’t need to do much prior to it.

Tiger tornillo

The tercera was just a short match to push the feuding guys. They’re really sending hints that Starman is about to lose here, and it’s weird to have Starman be in any story at all. Oro does know he’s feuding with these guys at this point, but this was just about getting to the two finishes.

The opener ended super quick into the third fall, with Sonic seemingly coming down badly on a flip powerbomb escape and Yago quickly covering him to get him out there. It didn’t seem that serious, and I would’ve like to see what Yago could’ve done with more time if gotten the opportunity. He continues to look quietly good, if lacking the spectacular moves of Templario. He got himself a bodyscissors submission hold, a great improvement over his old finish.

Caristico/Volador & Leyenda de Azul tonight

Tonight’s CMLL show has the first Volador & Caristico match….in about two months. They just faced off in the final of the Leyenda de Azul, and are rematching with a bit heightened tensions. The match should be good, and Carsitico is the favorite after getting humiliated last couple weeks. It’s more interesting to see if this is just the end of this issue for now, or if they’ll following up on this after the holiday season. The last match was pretty good and this should be as well.

The semimain is random. The Leyenda de Azul returns with an all rudo lineup. (Rush is technically a tecnico, but really a rudo.) An all rudo lineup doesn’t seem as promising as an all tecnico lineup, and some of the people included (Shocker, Mr. Niebla, Mascara 2000, Rey Bucanero, Pierroth, Misterioso) aren’t usually thought of having good matches in 2017. The format may help, but it’s a strange set up. Rush is due to win something, so I think he’s the favorite. This would be Kraneo’s first match in about six weeks, with no mention of what happened to him.

The undercard looks promising. Mistico teams with Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja to take on Cavernario, Cuatrero and the returning Negro Casas. That match looks like Casas might be able to get by with his partners taking much of the load. The usual fun trio of Puma, Tiger and Virus take on Drone, Rey Cometa and Guerrero Maya in another good match. The opener is Fiero & Oro versus Raziel & Templario, in the final preview of the 12/25 cage match.

The show airs at 8:30 pm on Claro’s website and Facebook, and will be up around 11:30 on CMLL’s YouTube channel.

The Crash announced Matt Riddle will team with Daga & Penta vs Mecha Wolf, Garza and Bestia in the main event of their 01/20 show. Bringing in Riddle to be the third person in a trio seems extravagant. The Crash’s show last night in Tapachula looks it drew pretty well. The last The Crash labeled show of the year is on Christmas in Salon Citlalli, which will be much smaller than usual.

Arolucha put tickets on sale for their 01/19 show in Amarillo and 01/20 in Lubbock, Texas. The Facebook page for this show says the Lubbock show is a TV taping, but the comments clarify that it is not one. Tickets are $20 GA and $40-45 for reserved. Arolucha seems very excited to get going after how well their first show went, but No wrestler has been yet advertised for any of these shows. I’m sure they’ll try to put on good shows but I’d hold off until they say who’s on them.

SoloWrestling has a really good interview with Hip Hop Man and El Mosco in Spanish. They’re heading back to Argentina for a couple months. They explain they’re not in IWRG because IWRG started to move them down the card when they didn’t have an idea for them, and they’d rather work elsewhere than lower their value, but still will be happy to go back to IWRG when they have something for them. Hip Hop Man says that when he first came to Mexico, Dorian Roldan pitched him on an Argentinean character Antonio Pena had created long ago, but it sounds like it went nowhere. Mosco has been training in CMLL for the last six months, and feels it’s really helped him. Hip Hop Man hopes to clear up his work visa situation so he can try working in the US or Japan in 2018. Both men agree they would trade their lucha libre careers for a single Argentina World Cup victory.

Lucha Libre Elite says they’re starting on Azteca in January.

LuchaWorld has the latest Lucha Report.

Hijo del Santo writes about Solomon Grundy.

CMLL Puebla: 2017-12-11 

one of two dives in Reyes del Aire

Recapped: 2017-12-16

Matches: 

Arkalis & París beat Fuerza Chicana & Policeman
(
11:49 [6:52, 2:38, 2:19], 2/3, n/r, via VideosOficialesCMLL)

Hijo del Signo & King Jaguar beat Lestat & Tigre Rojo Jr.  
(13:21 [7:15, 1:24, 4:42], 2/3, n/r, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Cancerbero, Espíritu Maligno, Raziel beat Astral, Asturiano, Pegasso  
(8:21 [6:04, 2:17], 1/2, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Johnny Idol, Okumura, Sam Adonis beat Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Soberano Jr. 
(11:43 [5:33, 2:03, 4:07], 1/3, ok, via
VideosOficialesCMLL)

Mephisto defeated Mistico, PólvoraVolador Jr.Dragón LeeRey BucaneroNiebla RojaGran GuerreroValiente and Felino to win the Reyes del Aire VIP cibernetico
(20:02, ok, via 
VideosOficialesCMLL)

  • 6:44 Dragon Lee hanging double stomp Pólvora
  • 7:53 Rey Bucanero casita Valiente
  • 10:10 Niebla Roja reverse campana Felino
  • 11:53 Mephisto flipping DDT Dragon Lee
  • 13:04 Mistico La Misticoa Rey Bucanero
  • 14:59 Gran Guerrero Toro Bill
  • 15:13 Volador superkick Gran Guerrero
  • 15:37 Mephisto Devil’s Wings Mistico
  • 20:02 Mephisto super Devil’s Wings Volador

What happened: 

Espíritu fouled Asturiano to set up the win, then unmasked him after the fact.

Thoughts: 

great effort by Raziel

The Reyes del Aire was a very ordinary feeling cibernetico hurt by calling it Reyes del Aire. Years of calling the Tuesday show “Nuevo Valores” without any actual new people shows CMLL doesn’t value proper nouns that much, but they set up expectations for this match that the people in it were not interested in fulfilling. There were only two dives in this match, both in the early going, and the match was more focused around the rudos doing big moves than the any flying the técnicos had to offer. They had plenty of stuff that didn’t feel like it belonged in a Reyes del Aire. Some of that’s fine, but when there’s just not that much flying, it’s a problem. This match was really about 10 minutes of a match, then a bunch of eliminations, then Volador & Mephisto doing the last five minutes of every match they do, only Mephisto actually won this one. No one cared; Mephisto as Rey del Aire is just weird, Volador took this so unserious to wrestle in a heavy hoodie the whole match. The match is better without expectations of something more, but really more another disappointing Puebla main event.

The Foreigners are putting more work into their act than most. New team gear, some tag team moves from a group that didn’t have one already, and generally goofing around together. I wish everyone did this and it worked out this well; Adonis pinning Marco cleanly after a big boot was generally shocking. I’m not convinced about the level of matches compared to others, but at least the fans reacted to this one.

Puebla is suddenly in a hurry to do an Espíritu Maligno mask match (and probable loss), so the tercera was mostly about Espíritu tearing at Asturiano. They would seem to be a good match up but didn’t show it here, and the match didn’t go long enough to turn into something. Raziel made a laughable poor attempt to catch Pegasso on his dive.