great match roundup, week of 2017-11-25

this batch of recaps

Nothing on the usual shows got a good grade. I probably should’ve gone ahead and watched Dragon Lee/Cavernario with this batch so it wouldn’t be so sad. The Crash has 3 great matches.

I had three paragraphs of moody stuff here that I just deleted because I don’t want it on my permanent internet record. The better version is “yay, I’ve posted 30+ recaps in three weeks!” and “Wait, is that Actually Bad?”

I forgot to grade the Copa VIP so I’m giving a below average out of spite. Below average is a total spite rating.

Recommended matches

nothing!

Other matches watched

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Dr. Wagner Jr. vs PaganoHernandezMr. Águila for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship and in a Number One Contenders Match match AAA Worldwide en Querétaro Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Noviembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-25 2017-11-03
ok Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker vs Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly © for the AAA World Trios Championship AAA Worldwide en Querétaro Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Noviembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-25 2017-11-03
ok Texano Jr. vs Rey EscorpiónPsycho Clown in a Number One Contenders Match match and for the AAA Latin American Championship AAA Worldwide en Querétaro Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Noviembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-25 2017-11-03
ok Espíritu Maligno, Meyer, Vega vs Joker, King Jaguar, Sombra Diabólika LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 27 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-27 2017-11-27
ok Blue Panther Jr., Rey Samuray, The Panther vs El Malayo, Felino, Misterioso Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 27 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-27 2017-11-27
ok Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Valiente vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Pierroth LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 27 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-27 2017-11-27
ok Carístico, Mistico, Rush vs Máscara Año 2000, Mr. Niebla, Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 27 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-27 2017-11-27
ok Bengala & Sonic vs Artillero & Espanto Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-28 2017-11-28
ok Magia Blanca, Star Jr., Starman vs Disturbio, Sangre Azteca, Templario Disturbio Cmll, Sangre Azteca y Templario vs Star Man, Star Jr y Magia Blanca. 1a caída (posted by Princesa Dorada) Disturbio Cmll, Sangre Azteca y Templario vs Star Man, Star Jr y Magia Blanca. 2a y 3a caidas (posted by Princesa Dorada) LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-28 2017-11-28
ok Blue Panther Jr., Drone, The Panther vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Tiger LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-28 2017-11-28
ok Vangellys vs Pólvora in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-28 2017-11-28
ok Johnny Idol, Stuka Jr., Valiente vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Okumura LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-28 2017-11-28
ok Mistico, Rush, Volador Jr. vs Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-28 2017-11-28
ok Astral, Pegasso, Stigma vs Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-12-01 2017-12-01
ok Blue Panther, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Hechicero, Sam Adonis, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-12-01 2017-12-01
ok Marco Corleone, Titán, Valiente vs Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-12-01 2017-12-01
below average Shockercito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño OlímpicoLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-12-01 2017-12-01
below average Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Silueta vs Dalys, La Seductora, Tiffany LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-12-01 2017-12-01
below average Carístico vs Negro CasasVolador Jr.MephistoMisticoShockerDragón LeeEuforiaNiebla RojaSansónStuka Jr.Felino [Copa Jr. VIP] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-12-01 2017-12-01
not rated Black Tiger, Oro Jr., Robin vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Policeman, Rey Apocalipsis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 27 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-27 2017-11-27
watch later Dragón Lee vs Cavernario Dragón Lee vs Cavernario (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-11-25 2017-11-21

DTU 10th Anniversary, The Crash, Caristico/Mistico, Pato Soria

tonight

DTU (THU) 12/14/2017 Arena Aficion [+LuchaTV]
DTU 10th Anniversary
1) Irving b Flash BoyÁngel NegroSteel Dragón
2) Anarquía & Angelito Mágico b Drolux & Tiburón
3) Billy Gamer & Toto Gamer b Devitt Rodríguez & Hard Boy
4) Black Fire, Corsario Negro Jr., Crazy Boy, El Exótico, Hormiga, Kevin b Ángel o Demonio, Camuflaje, Cerebro Negro, Junior, Paranoiko, Súper Mega
DTU defeated X-LAW. Paranoiko was the surprise X-LAW lucahdor.
5) Jimmy & Príncipe Cometa b Mikey Midas & Myron Reed © [DTU NEXO]
New champs. Midas/Reed fall on their first defense.
6) Ovett b Halloween © [DTU CONSAGRADO]
New champ. Halloween falls on his first defense.
7) Flamita b Cobre, ?, ??
Scheduled as a five way, turned into a four way. Flamita beat Cobre. Not sure which other two were in the match.
8) Dezmond Xavier b Moria ©Drastik Boy [DTU AI]
Moria falls on his 2nd defense
9) Crazy King b Shlak ©CíclopeMiedo Extremo [hair, mask, DTU]
Crazy King putting up his mask, Ciclope & Miedo putting up their hair. Crazy King got the win. Shlak falls on his fourth defense (two in the US).

Turnout seemed about the same as The Crash, which must be disappointing for a 10th Anniversary show. Lots of title changes, with DTU winning back the main title and their tag title. +LuchaTV seems like they’re putting up highlights of each DTU show (or for every promotion) a couple days before the next one so we may see these in January.

It’s a strangely busy Friday for the middle of December. For reasons unclear to anyone, but probably about talent availability, The Crash is running shows tonight both in Arena Neza and Teziutlan, Puebla. The Crash was running their last run of shows basically without Konnan being there, but they’re going to be stretched pretty thin with two shows.

The Tezitulan show, two hours from Arena Puebla, has LA Park & Rey Mysterio vs La Mascara & Carlito and Rush vs Brian Cage, but is unlikely to be seen outside that building. Arena Neza will have Ricochet & Sammy Guevera vs Penta & Fenix (which should be the main event), a four way with Daga, Trevor Lee, Willie Mack and Neza Kid (Freelance), and Flamita & Septimo Dragon vs Bandido & Laredo Kid among other matches. Mima Shimoda makes her debut for the group in a four way women’s match. There will likely not be any official filming, but probably a dozen different people shooting the Ricochet match for their own YouTube channel.

CMLL has the last Friday night before thing gets busy, with some anticipation for the main event. The sides are the same as last week – Caristico, Soberano and Ultimo Guerrero versus Mistico, Terrible, and Volador Jr. The match was good last week, but the big question is if CMLL will actually set up Carsitico vs Mistico or if they’ll back away from it again. Next week’s show will have the Leyenda de Azul of all rudos, so they’ll need something tecnico to balance it. If not Mistico/Caristico in a singles, a trios match of all tecnicos is possible.

The semimain was intended to be build to Sam Adonis/Negro Casas, but Casas is taking the week off. Shocker was his replacement, but it’d be understandable if he too ended up missing the show. At least for the moment, he’s scheduled to team with Cavernario & Mr. Niebla against Ephesto, Mephsito & Adonis.

The fourth match is NGD vs Angel de Oro, Niebla Roja and Rey Cometa. The Chavez brothers and a rotating third partner against the NGD have produced some good results. The third is a women’s match, with Maravilla, Marcela and Princesa Sugehit against Amapola, Dalys and Reyna Isis. Isis seems like the woman who’s most benefited from Zeuxis not being around much the last couple months, getting on bigger shows than usual.

Shockercito defends the main minis title in the second match against Mercurio. Both guys are really good when they’re motivated, and there’s not telling when they’ll get another singles match on a Friday night show, but their spot on the card might prevent them from going crazy. The opener is Star Jr. & Starman against Hijo del Signo & Templario, a preview for the 12/25 cage match.

This show will air at 8:30 on Claro’s website and Facebook. They left the website regionblocked last week, so it’s great Facebook is working.

Dragon Lee & Titan will be part of ROH’s Final Battle show, teaming with Flip Gordon against the Young Bucks and Adam Page. It’s a PPV available online for $35. Their show starts at 8pm CT.

Auditorio Tijuana has a Maxilar promotions show, the third show for the promotion that’s started running monthly. The show is notable because it’s Alberto teaming with his father and son against Dr. Wagner Jr., his son and Tinieblas Jr. The show will honor Dos Caras and Tinieblas Sr.. Tinieblas told the press that he’s retired. He’s 78, so I would hope so but it’s lucha libre.

Pato Soria, 75, passed away earlier today after a battle with cancer. His son Shocker mentioned the news on Facebook.  SuperLuchas said doctors discovered Soria’s cancer a couple of months ago and fell apart quickly. CMLL & AAA among many others have posted remembrances.

Soria, nicknamed Pato (Duck) was a charismatic star in Guadalajara of the 60s and 70s. He didn’t find the same level success in Mexico City, but was a well remembered figure. Soria worked at Arena Coliseo Guadalajara, made cameos in both CMLL and AAA when his son wrestled in those locations, and appeared on an episode of the El Luchador series. Shocker is scheduled on tonight’s card, but it would be no surprise if that changed.

CMLL announced Puma is sticking around Japan for a while after Fantastica Mania. He’s working on 01/28 in Kyoto (the show already announced) and 02/04 in Tokyo.

The FantasticaMania tour opening show (01/12) will air on SamuraiTV on 01/18. That’s one day before the live shows from Tokyo start. SamuraiTV is covering the first two days, which normally means no announcing for those shows on NJPW World.

Pro Wrestling Revoultion says Rey Fenix & Penta are off their 02/24 shows, due to Lucha Underground commitments. It’s still unclear if there are actually official LU dates at this point, but everyone’s doing the same math after the dates came out in the WON. Still, based on his reaction to it being brought up on the +Lucha podcast, I’m not sure if Fenix is actually coming back for a Season 4 if he has a choice. It was a long 18 months, things happened.

Rey Mysterio headlines a California casino on 12/22. On one of those podcasts appearances, Konnan mentioned they’ve got a half dozen more of this scheduled (mentioned as one the other non-Crash things he has going on.)

Bernado Guzman says Psycho Clown is luchador of the year: He won Dr. Wagner’s mask, he won Carta Brava & Soul Rocker’s mask, and he won the Lucha Libre World Cup.

126f has a photo gallery of that Heroes of Lucha Libre show.

A short bio on Leon luchador Skud.

Lineup

TSW (MON) 01/01/2018 Arena San Juan Pantitlan, Ciudad Nezahualcóyotl, Estado de México
1) Pegazus vs KalibusBaby Star
2) Black Warrior Jr. vs Thunder Storm
3) Oro Jr. & Templario vs Lokillus & Yoruba
4) Heddi Karaoui vs Toro Negro Jr.
5) Blue Panther Jr. & The Panther (CMLL) vs Ciclón Ramírez Jr. & Emperador Azteca
6) Sagrado vs Golden Magic
7) El Bandido vs Niebla Roja

I am all here for Sagrado versus Golden Magic.

The Crash: 2017-09-02 

Black Danger smash

Recapped: 12/11/2017

These matches are (almost) all shot on a single hard cam. It takes the operator a while to realize they should be zooming out and panning on dives, but I like it the best of all the different forms of video we’ve gotten so far.

Matches: 

Jonathan, Kamik-C, Sombra De Plata vs Mirage, Skalibur, Viento
(9:38, great, via Patreon)

What Happened:

  • Skalibur is in dark blue.

  • Viento is in black and white.

  • Mirage is in green and black

  • Sombra de Plata is in silver-grey and white

  • Kamik-C (listed as K-Mikc here, pronounced “kamikaze”) is in black, blue and yellow shorts.

  • Jonathan is the only unmasked wrestler.

Review: Just pure opening match insanity that holds together a lot better than the no-name opener on the last show. It doesn’t hold together close to perfectly by any means – it’s pretty clear they blew the finish dangerously and quickly have to come up something else to cover, and there’s a dive late that goes equally as horrendously. It’s pretty solid all considering thru the first two third, and while pulling off some really impressive looking stuff. Kamik-C, who looks about 16 but is somehow actually 23, impressed with his flying and his ability to just get utterly destroyed. He and Skalibur stood out the most. Jonathan was generally better here than he had in his other matches, and Viento had some impressive power moments. Crowd was really into the late stages for an opener and would’ve gone nuts if they just could’ve held it together.

this looked extra dangeorus

crushing powerbomb

 

Desi Derata & Dezmond Xavier vs Keyra & Laredo Kid  
(12:20, ok, via 
MegaKakashi619)

What Happened: I think I got the Patreon one, only somehow I ended up with a fish-eyed ringside cam from someone who is also shooting photos (and you can hear each digital click.) I watched it that way, was distracted by the video, and then watched the MegaKaKashi619 version and was still a bit distracted. This is Desi Derat’s debut and only match in the group. Both the men pin both the women at the same time, which seems like it should be a draw. It is not, they just go to one more fall.

Review: A clunky match which didn’t really come together The two teams didn’t seem to be on the same page at time, and the foreigner team itself looked like two people who hadn’t teamed much, which was probably the case. My assumption on any one and done outsider is they just didn’t do well enough to get brought back. Derata had a strange moment or two, didn’t do enough where I felt a need to see her again, but her issues problems seemed more mental than physical and I always figure those can be fixed. The finish seemed to suggest they had more plans for Xavier, but he hasn’t been back. He looked more impressive elsewhere.

here, a Desi highlight

Último Ninja vs Eli Everfly vs Homicide
(5:47, good, via Patreon)

Review: The triangle match was mildly confusing as a three way match – Último Ninja and Homicide mostly just threw each other out of the ring they could have a turn tossing around Eli Everfly. Ultimo Ninja versus Eli could’ve been pretty cool (Eli got more offense there), Homicide destroyed Eli pretty impressive, and it ended up being sort of a two man squash match. Still entertaining, everything looked painful.

Eli tornillo
a very big inside cradle powerbomb
Eli dead

Bestia 666 vs Jack Evans in a super libre match
(14:31, ok, via Patreon)

What Happened: There’s a board with light tubes on it in the corner even before the match starts. Garza and Demus second their men, and they kick off fighting before the actual match does. Pierroth runs into attack Jack and Damian about 12 minutes in, I guess with the idea Jack was about to win but it didn’t feel he was that close. They try to send Jack into the light tube board, but Jack eventually reverses a superbomb into a super huracanrana to send Bestia thru.

Review: I liked this match better the mixed tag, but it was all over the place. I’ve never seen Jack miss his dive like he did here, and he just didn’t seem on target tonight. The interference got over live – everyone just want to see Garza get hurt – but took away from the match watching it on tape. (And it looked silly for Pierroth and Garza to mostly stand here and do nothing while Bestia was fighting for his life on the top rope.). They raised the stakes enough where you’d believe the hair match was coming but all the additional stuff actually seemed to take away from personal intensity of the moment. They did a better job with that after the main event.

upside down Evans
even for Jack, that was a bad idea

Ortiz & Santana vs Dave Crist & Jake Crist and Arkángel Divino & Black Boy and Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Último Maldito for the Impact Tag Team Championship
(12:06, great, via Patreon)

What Happened: Dave (dark hair) & Jake (blond) are OVE. Ortiz (afro) and Santana (short hair) are LAX.

Review: An all action match, with the local guys obviously being fired up to go against US guys in something that would end up on their TV, and the outsider teams fitting in well. The teams are obviously hanging out more with their usual opponents than going against each other – Arkangel & Maldito do their spots precisely to make an impact for Impact – but it doesn’t feel like they’re avoiding each other. Jake seemed to stand out in the all action style of the tag match, and LAX looked like the best two guys at being a team here. I would’ve expected the feud between the Impact teams to come thru stronger, and this was one of those matches where it didn’t feel lit was close to ending until it just did, but it was still enjoyable.

rana onto everyone
black boy really wants to make this work

Carlito & Daga vs La Máscara & Pierroth and Garza Jr. & M-ximo
(13:36, ok, via Patreon)

What Happened: The story of the prematch is Los Ingobernable Máximo is unclear wh he’s teaming with Garza, and Garza rather hang out with the attractive lady he’s brought to the match. They start fighting it as a 4-2, then they turn on Garza, then Máximo immediately refuses to do the kiss spot on Garza, saving him. Mascara and Pierroth slap Máximo around, and it turns into a normal 3 way tag from there.

About 13 minutes in, Damian walks out and attacks Pierroth due to an arguments they had earlier. Pierroth grab Damian long enough to set up for Maximo kiss, but Damian moves out of the way and Pierroth gets it instead. Daga gets the win.

La Mascara & Pierroth attack Máximo after the match, kicking him out of the group. Damian & Daga eventually makes the save, but Garza helps the rudos take them all out.

Review:  the three way tag turned out better than I expected, especially with the goofiness about the teams. The match is really just a long set up to flip Máximo back to being on the técnico side. The action picked up once they identified who was on each side, but it never really gelled like a strong performance from anyone in particular. Garza selling big for Pierroth’s shots during the match at least made them seem like they’re something. Post match stretched a long time.

Oráculo vs Black Danger in a mask vs mask match
(13:38, great, via Patreon)

What Happened:

A recap video precedes the match. Jack & Bestia re seconds and fight during the match.

Garza gives Black Danger a Yellow Rebelion shirt to join the group after winning, which the crowd cheers loudly (even though they’re sort of the heel faction)

Oraculo was announces himself as Jose Rios, a wrestler for 10 years. This appears to have been his final match in The Crash. Bestia and Jack fight after the match and have to be pulled apart.

Review: Oraculo/Black Danger got the big spot at the end and made the most of it. There was really good action thru this whole match, and they build strongly towards the finish. The 450 kickout was really big. Danger lost Oraculo on the moonsault to the floor, which was unfortunate, but he’s in the right place for the finish and it comes off perfectly. There’s minimal interference by the seconds; this is the kind of “just let the two guys go at” apuesta match that we rarely get outside of CMLL. The one eye opening thing is I really didn’t get the sense of the difference in sizes between these two guys watching handhelds, and Danger looks so much bigger than Oraculo from the hard camera in this mach. The post match was done well, building on the win to make Black danger seem like a bigger star and this as a big moment in his career, not just a one off deal.

Oraculo flying knee smash
Danger Driver

lucha TV preview for weekend of December 14th, 2017

full size

AAA is a question mark. The taping in Xalapa is the next on the list, but also could be doing the end of the year show. Or they might air the show from DF this past week (and maybe skip holiday repeats this year?)

CMLL Tuesday lineup still isn’t back up on their website and I’m not sure what’s going on there.

hope the Imposible/Cerebro match makes IWRG TV, but it’s not in the spot of a match that usuall does.