AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-25 

starting to concerned Super Fly has a death wish

Recapped: 12/08/2017

All matches were taped in Auditorio Instituto Queretano San Javier, Querétaro, Querétaro on 11/03/2017. There was a dark match I wasn’t interested in watching.

Matches: 

Dr. Wagner Jr. beat PaganoHernandez, and Mr. Águila to earn a shot at the AAA World Heavyweight Championship at Guerra de Titanes
(7:31, Wagner flapjack Hernandez, ok, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly © defeated Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker vs  for the AAA World Trios Championship
(10:13, Averno Devi’s Wings Carta Brava, ok,
Lucha Libre AAA)

Rey Escorpión beat Texano Jr., Psycho Clown to become #1 contender for the AAA Latin American Championship
(7:23, Rey Escorpión foul Psycho Clown, ok, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened: 

no

Psycho enters last, to make it easier for both rudos to attack him as he’s parading around the ring. As with every two rudos on one técnico match ever, Texano & Escorpión get along until it comes time to decide who wins. Psycho gets the advantage when the bullrope spot goes wrong. The match magically turns into a one on one from there.

Finishes sees Escorpión pull Tirantes away after Texano’s hit his finish on Psycho, then circle around the ring to sneak in and foul Psycho as Tirantes looks outside the ring for no reason. Texano throws Escorpión out and covers Psycho for the win. Arturo Rivera says Escorpión is now the challenger for the cruiserweight title, and at least Jesus Zuniga immediately corrects him on that.

Psycho attacks Escorpión the ramp and dives onto him into the crowd, which the cameras struggle to catch – Psycho dives into nothingness. Texano stats to cut a promo in the ring when Fantasma’s music interrupts, and Texano caught off guard by Fantamsa coming thru the crowd to attack him. Tirantes tops Fantasma from using a chair in the attack for some reason, allowing Texano to grab the title and get away.

OGT come out first, get some chairs, and sit waiting for Poder del Norte to come to the ring. Poder del Norte decide to charge the ring. Averno & Chessman kick them, while Chessman just grabs his chair and hits Mocho Cota Jr. with it.

this was dumb when Mesias & Vampiro did it

Late in the match, Carta Brava sends Chessman into referee Copetes to take him out. Mascara de Bronce and Argenis run into attack for no obvious reason, taking out both team. Bengala watches from the stage, then sneaks in to face Cota. Cota turns the tables on him, then runs into Avenro Devils Wings. Super Fly sends Copetes back in the ring to count three.

Poder del Norte go to the back while OGT celebrate their win. After a couple moments, there’s a cut backstage where Argenis, Bengala and Mascara de Bronce are already down and Poder del Norte are standing near them with chairs. Raptor, Aerostar and Drago show up as they cut in, and both sides throw chairs back and forth.

This opener is Mr. Aguila’s surprise return to the promotion (after a cameo at TripleMania.) He’s a replacement for Marty and wrestling as Perros del Mal rep. The match is originally a tag match, but Vampiro makes a four way match before the start, where the winner will get a title shot at Johnny Mundo in 2018 at Guerra de Titanes. They still work it like a tag match, with guys standing on the apron waiting for tags instead of all four people in the ring at the same time.

Hernandez is close beating Dr. Wagner when Hijo del Dr. Wagner runs in and attacks Hernandez from behind. Tirantes looks away from the ring for no particular reason. Wagner wins with a flapjack this time. Mr. Aguila and Pagano get up to fight on the stage, and Aguila throws him off into rows of empty chairs. He gets back up to the ramp after some time, and the Wagners attack him for no real reason. I have no idea.

Polvo de Estrellas, who has not had a televised AAA match since October 25, 2014, is a celebrity acting in a play. Marisela Pena, OGT and the Traidor Clowns are shown coming to the play. This goes a minute. A segment hyping the Xalapa taping goes about 20 seconds.

Thoughts: 

Psycho dive into nothingness

Three way matches are really tough to make interesting and this didn’t have anything to offer that wasn’t boring the last five times I saw it. Escorpión was the most interesting, but barely soon, and this just seemed to be killing time for that finish. Texano, who thinks he should have the Latin American title, seems like he should be much more upset about being cheated his title chance they he seemed here. The post match made the statement that the match was pointless – Fantasma/Texano is the match that matters, not Escorpion getting a title shot. It was at least good that they ended the show with something beside a Wagner or Psycho feud.

I kinda of liked the trios title match up until the overbooked finish. I guess they didn’t want Poder del Norte to lose again clean, but then they probably should’ve just not booked this match, instead of booking people to run in for not any explained reason. (The técnicos were attacking both teams indiscriminately. It was just an excuse.) Poder del Norte seemed very into this match and showed a lot of energy thru out, and the brawling feel of this match was a nice counter point to last week’s técnico/técnico match. I wish they could’ve aired the same week to better draw out that comparison. One thing I’ve noticed is it seems easier to spot the tropes that are way over done from the outside than for the guys in the match. The stacked up superplex is my current pet peeve, but I’m sure the triple pin attempt by Poder del Norte on big moves following it was supposed to be a climatic near fall. Only, the fans barely reacted, because these matches have taught them they’re never ending with three guys getting pinned at the same time. There’s a lot of stuff used for two count reactions like that which don’t get them because they’ve been used only for those reactions too many times, and I don’t think the crowd ever had a moment where they thought the champs were going to retain their titles.

At least the four way was short. All of Pagano’s moves look so ugly. He and Aguila have a bad looking sequence about four minutes in which makes me wonder what I’m doing. I know Pagano must be over because no one this bad who’s not related to someone would be pushed as hard as he is otherwise. I think Mr. Aguila is a good addition but he didn’t really show anything here that would prove it, and the hug plunge thru table was not so great. Hernandez did a great superman dive, which they showed from as far way as possible. Thinking about all the people AAA didn’t go with as hard as they could’ve and then watching Hijo de Dr. Wagner get a big push is hard.

ok

Foreign Invasion outsmarts Volador, Titan/Lee tag match in ROH

This doesn’t seem fair

CMLL (TUE) 12/12/2017 Arena México [CMLL, Wrestling With GIFs]
1) Bengala & Sonic b Espíritu Negro & Yago LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 12 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 2/3. Sonic was hurt in the third fall.
2) Arkángel de la Muerte, Metálico, Sangre Azteca b Flyer, Magnus, Príncipe Diamante LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 12 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rudos took 1/3.
3) Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus b Fuego, Oro Jr., Starman LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 12 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
straight falls. Tecnicos were DQed for excessive violence. Rudos took the second and unmasked the rudos.
4) Misterioso Jr. b Tiger [lightningLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 12 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Misterioso won via Gori Driver and took Tiger’s mask.
5) Marco Corleone, Stuka Jr., Titán b Cavernario, Shocker, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 12 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Marco Corleone was moved into this match on December 7. Tecnicos took 1/3.
6) Johnny Idol, Okumura, Sam Adonis b Dragón Lee, Valiente, Volador Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 12 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Dragon Lee was moved into this match on December 7. Invasion Extranjera took falls 1/3, the last when Volador had Adonis beat but the rudos helped him sneak in a foul.

Main event was the expected bit to build up next week’s title match. Nothing much else going on.

ROH announced Titan & Dragon Lee will face the Young Bucks and the Best Friends (Chuck Taylor & Beretta) on Saturday’s ROH TV taping in Philadelphia. That’ll probably be the main event, and it could be for the tag titles if the Best Friends win on the PPV.

Box Y Lucha says Lluvia is planning on returning to CMLL in January. She returned to wrestling this past weekend after taking this year off to have a child.

Segunda Caida watches more random CMLL, discovers Templario.

CultIcon names 10 thru 6 on his WCW lucha match countdown.

Alberto got people to post an article about him visiting a church with no news attached. He’s got really good PR/image rehab people.

Lineup

CMLL (TUE) 12/19/2017 Arena México
1) Bengala & Sonic vs Artillero & El Coyote
2) Eléctrico, Fantasy, Último Dragóncito vs Mercurio, Pequeño Nitro, Pierrothito
3) Tritón vs Fuego [lightning]
4) Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs Amapola, Dalys, Reyna Isis
5) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. © vs Johnny Idol, Okumura, Sam Adonis [CMLL TRIOS]
10th defense
6) Pierroth, Rush, Terrible vs Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas [Relevos Increíbles]

This show will honor first responders from the Mexico earthquake, including rescue dogs. That seems like it’ll be a different atmosphere than usual. It’s good CMLL cut down on how many cats they booked for the show.

Triton showing up here confirms he’s back on the main roster, and at about exactly the spot he left. It seems rare guys are allowed to just come back to CMLL, but there seems like a lesson with here with Triton and Demus; if you’re a CMLL midcarder on the road to nowhere and you get a chance to do better elsewhere, it’s worth taking. It didn’t seem like it worked out big for Triton, but all he missed out was a year of wrestling in match 2/3 and maybe a tournament appearance.

If you told me even three weeks ago that Johnny Idol & Okumura would have a reasonable strong chance of ending the Sky Team’s record breaking trios title run, I would’ve thought you insane. It’s very possible now.

This will be the last Tuesday Arena Mexico show until January 9th.

CMLL (TUE) 12/19/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Gemelo Pantera I, Gemelo Pantera II, Pantera Blanca Jr. vs Frezzer, Furia Roja, Guerrero de la Muerte
2) La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Silueta vs La Seductora, Metálica, Tiffany
3) Pegasso, Star Jr., Starman vs Cancerbero, Disturbio, Raziel
4) Soberano Jr., Stuka Jr., Titán vs Rey Bucanero, Shocker, Vangellys
5) Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Niebla Roja vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto

Well, forget about the Caristico/Niebla thing. Panteras are here too.

12 women booked on this day and Zeuxis is nowhere to be seen. Hope everything is OK there.

great match roundup, week of 2017-11-18

Templario is Forastero with no family connections

shows watched

That Tuesday segunda match was definitely the best match of the week, which is not something you can say often.

I did the math and realized I wouldn’t catch up on these recaps until 2018 at my current pace. That was depressing.

Recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
good Aerostar, Drago, Raptor vs Argenis, Bengala, Máscara de Bronce AAA Worldwide en Querétaro Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Noviembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-18 2017-11-03
good Lanzelot © vs Australian Suicide for the AAA World Cruiserweight Championship AAA Worldwide en Querétaro Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Noviembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-18 2017-11-03
good Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Soberano Jr. vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-20 2017-11-20
good Astral, Flyer, Robin vs Akuma, Espanto Jr., Templario LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 21 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-21 2017-11-21
good Rey Cometa, Soberano Jr., Titán vs Hechicero, Okumura, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 24 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-24 2017-11-24
good Solar I vs Virus LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 24 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-24 2017-11-24
good Dragón Lee, Mistico, Pierroth vs Felino, Puma, Tiger [Copa Dinastia] and in a tournament semifinal match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 24 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-24 2017-11-24
good Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón vs Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther [Copa Dinastia] and in a tournament semifinal match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 24 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-24 2017-11-24

Other Matches

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Angelikal, Chicano, Hijo Del Vikingo, Lanzelot vs Ángel Mortal Jr., Australian Suicide, Tiger Boy, Villano III Jr. AAA Worldwide en Querétaro Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Noviembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-18 2017-11-03
ok Big Mami, Faby Apache, Lady Shani vs Ashley, Hahastary, La Hiedra AAA Worldwide en Querétaro Parte 1 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Noviembre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-18 2017-11-03
ok Millenium & Vega vs Ares & Guerrero Espacial LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-20 2017-11-20
ok Asturiano & Stukita vs Joker & Pequeño Nitro LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-20 2017-11-20
ok Dalys vs La Vaquerita in a lightning match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-20 2017-11-20
ok Fuego, Stigma, Stuka Jr. vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, VirusLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-20 2017-11-20
ok Niebla Roja, Rush, Valiente vs Máscara Año 2000, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 20 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-20 2017-11-20
ok Fantasy & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 21 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-21 2017-11-21
ok Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Metálica, Reyna Isis, Tiffany LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 21 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-21 2017-11-21
ok Fuego vs Pegasso in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 21 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-21 2017-11-21
ok Johnny Idol, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mr. Niebla LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 21 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-21 2017-11-21
ok Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 21 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-11-21 2017-11-21
ok Star Jr. & Starman vs Hijo del Signo & Nitro LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 24 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-24 2017-11-24
ok Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stigma vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 24 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-24 2017-11-24
ok Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón vs Dragón Lee, Mistico, Pierroth[Copa Dinastia] and in a tournament final match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 24 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-24 2017-11-24
ok Rush, Sam Adonis, Volador Jr. vs Mephisto, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero in a relevos increíbles match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 24 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-24 2017-11-24
not rated Dragón Lee & Puma vs Forastero & The Panther [Copa Dinastia] and in a battle royal match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 24 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-24 2017-11-24
watch later Volador Jr. vs Mephisto Volador Jr. vs Mephisto (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-11-18 2017-11-14