Mistico contra Caristico, lucha TV tapings this weekend

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CMLL (FRI) 12/08/2017 Arena México [thecubsfan]
1) Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico b Shockercito & Stukita LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:36. Rudos took 1/3. Mercurio beat Shockercito to set up a title match next week.
2) Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus b Oro Jr., Pegasso, Star Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:26. Rudos took 1/3, then Misterioso took Oro’s mask.
3) Euforia, Hechicero, Pólvora b Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
14:14. Rudos took 1/3.
4) Dragón Lee b Titán [lightningLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
8:30. Dragon Lee won via (slightly messed up) Dragon Driver.
5) Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis b Marco Corleone, Negro Casas, Valiente [Relevos IncreíblesLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
6:34. Adonis was DQed in the first, won the second fall cleanly, and snuck in a foul on Casas in the third.
6) Carístico, Soberano Jr., Último Guerrero DCOR Mistico, Terrible, Volador Jr. [Relevos IncreíblesLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 8 DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Mistico’s team (rudos) took first, Caristico’s team took second, both teams were counted in the third. UG & Caristico wanted one more fall, Terrible wanted a rematch next week. Terrible must have the power because that’s what they’ll do.

Better show than last week doesn’t really say anything. I enjoyed Dragon Lee/Titan and the main event, though both didn’t reach their ceiling.

It’s too late to really do more than – no sense previewing things with AAA & CMLL’s shows for the night are running. There’s two notable events coming up in the next few hours in the US, anyway.

Arolucha taped tomorrow night, and finally officially revealed Vince Russo is working for their company. That got the mostly negative reaction everyone involved knew it would, didn’t really need to be announced, and they did so anyway. They’re not a company that seems all that concerned with their social media public perception.

Heroes of Lucha Libre runs it’s second show in Ontario, California tonight. There are photos of the set up on Instagram, and it looks like the level of full arena set up you’d expect from a major league promotion. They drew surprisingly well the first time out. They do not appear to be doing the same the second time, but it’s early.

Both are longshots at getting TV deals. People are trying this because the perceived payoff is gigantic, but so are the odds of making it. It’s probably more likely these turn up on as digital releases on some streaming service than a TV deal (that’s what happened with most of Lucha Libre USA, that’s what happened with Jeff Jarrett’s GFW.) ELITE did get that TV deal, and it went nowhere with it. Meanwhile, we know The Crash are trying and AAA are probably trying again and CMLL’s probably always has an hour more TV to sell off if anyone’s interested: this is a far more crowded market than just Lucha Underground. I understand the jackpot people are seeing, but every one of these attempts is a pretty expensive lottery ticket.

Lineups

CMLL (FRI) 12/15/2017 Arena México
1) Star Jr. & Starman vs Hijo del Signo & Templario
2) Shockercito © vs Mercurio [CMLL MINI]
2nd defense
3) Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit vs Amapola, Dalys, Reyna Isis
4) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Rey Cometa vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
5) Cavernario, Mr. Niebla, Negro Casas vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Sam Adonis
6) Carístico, Soberano Jr., Último Guerrero vs Mistico, Terrible, Volador Jr. [Relevos Increíbles]

Main event points towards a Caristico/Mistico match as soon as 12/22, but it’s not real until it’s on a lineup. Semimain continues Casas/Adonis. Fourth match might be pretty good.

It has been nearly 10 years since the last CMLL minis title defense on a Friday night in Arena Mexico. The last was Mascarita Dorada against Pequeno Damian 666 back in January of 2008. That match was third on the card. This is second. I wonder what the point is of a title, or even a division, if it’s being defended second on a card with not much special going on. That’s CMLL saying to the world that they don’t value those guys all that much.

Opener has four of the ten in the cage match on 12/25. We know 12/22 will have the Leyenda de Azul cibernetico, but there’s a decent chance of a cibernetico with everyone in the cage match on the Sunday 12/18 show. That’s the usual pattern.

CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-12-08 

hooray team

Recapped: 12/08/17

Matches: 

Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico beat Shockercito & Stukita  
(12:36 [4:25, 2:42, 5:29], 1/3, ok)

Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus beat Oro Jr., Pegasso, Star Jr.
(12:26 [5:11, 2:12, 5:03], 1/3, ok)

Euforia, Hechicero, Pólvora beat Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa
(14:14 [6:47, 2:37, 4:50], 1/3, ok)

Dragón Lee beat Titán in a lightning match
(8:30, Dragon Driver, good)

Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis beat Marco Corleone, Negro Casas, Valiente in a relevos increíbles match
(6:34 [1:49, 1:33, 3:12], 2/3, ok)

Carístico, Soberano Jr., Último Guerrero went to a draw against Mistico, Terrible, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match
(13:47 [2:22, 2:12, 9:13], Team Mistico won first + Team Carístico won second + double count out of the ring in the third, good)

What happened:

Titan DDT

Volador’s team wrestled as rudos, with Mistico going after Caristico’s mask. Carístico was the only person who really tried to get in to beat the 20 count but it was not to be. Último Guerrero and Mistico challenged the opposition to settle things with one more fall, but Terrible wanted a rematch next week.

This was the first Friday night Arena Mexico CMLL show to end in a draw since Negro Casas & Blue Panther went to a draw in the main event of Homenaje a Dos Leyendas in 2012. (A 2016 Elite show also ended in a draw.) The only CMLL Arena Mexico main events I have ending as specifically ending in a double countout of the ring is are a 2004 Santo/Perro Jr. match, and a 1995 El Dandy/Ray Gonzalez title match, but I’m surely missing many.

Adonis was disqualified in the first fall for excessive violence, pinned Casas clean in the second, and snuck in a foul on the third. Adonis hyped the hair match on 1/1 after his win, then fought Casas more.

Mije was with Euforia (so Kraneo was probably booked for his spot at some point.)

Misterioso is hurt in the second fall when Pegasso’s 450 splash lands badly on one of his wrists.

Mercurio challenged Shockercito to a title match next week, which Shockercito accepted.

Thoughts: 

star smashed

The main event could’ve had more technical moments given who was involved, and there definitely were times where wrestlers playing unusual roles for the night had trouble making it work. (Soberano didn’t get as much help here as he might from the Dinamitas.) Still, it was overall an interested and heated match. There was great chaos at the beginning, the silliness of Carístico & Soberano raising the roof for Último Guerrero and big action moments like the dive sequence. It remains weird that the guy CMLL’s picked as the rightful Mistico is the rudo here, even to Carístico calling him a pirated version of Mistico. Still, it’s well established that the crowd is going to pick the original over the replacement, so they might as well go with it. The fans got into that rivalry again, and CMLL’s taking their time going to that match. It could happen in two weeks, and it could be very big whenever it happens.

The semimain was really quick, but it actually accomplished something. That’s ahead of most. Crowd is into the Casas/Adonis stuff and the last run of the match was pretty good. They seem to be working better at this point. I barely even noticed Pierroth was in this match, always a victory.

Dragon Lee/Titan was a really nice change of pace from the undercard, with all the wrestlers involved really wanting to have a great match. It didn’t quite work – the opening exchange had a cross up, Titan slipped later trying an incredible escape, the finish didn’t look right – but there was enough that still went good that it easily interesting. The one thing both guys brought back from Japan over their many trips is a love of hard chop exchange and the occasional stomp to the head. They were brutal to each other at times while still keeping the idea of a técnico/tecnico matchup. This felt like just a small portion of what they could do in a longer match – we didn’t even get a Dragon Lee dive – but it was easily the best of the same style lightning matches that have cropped up in the last few weeks.

LOD got small

The tercera never really hit the heights it looked like it could on paper for any extended period. The ending dives were cool, Hechicero & Maya did some early good mat work, but Maya also was off later during the match. Cometa was unusually a non factor.

The second match was the typically alright match in this spot. Star Jr. & Virus had a really fast exchange, and the match rolled along nicely at times, but it didn’t come together to anything interesting. It was really weird having técnicos who are in the cage match and none of the rudos, and then have those técnico lose. Oro leans on the cutter spot too much.

There didn’t seem to be much juice to the Shockercito/Mercurio issue before the challenge. The opener was worked like an average minis match, and got over just as much as those have of late. The two man pedigree is a pretty heavy finish to be using in the first fall of the first match. On the other hand, the big offense by the rudo was one of the few notable things about the opener. Stukita seems to have been worn down by the CMLL machine a bit.

Pierroth wanted nothing to do with this tope