Niebla Roja wins (disappointing) Copa Jr., Nicho returns in TJ, Elite


The Crash (THU) 11/30/2017 Arena Aficion [@LuchaParaTodos, Cuadrilatero TV]
1) Kastigador, Toto, Vengador b Astrolux, Látigo, Torito Negro
2) Cíclope & Miedo Extremo b Pegazus & Tiago and Cobre & Príncipe Cometa
Cometa replaced Jimmy.
3) Bestia 666 & Drastik Boy b Bugambilia & Jimmy
Jimmy & Bugambilia replaced Flamita & Willie Mack.
4) Bandido (Indie) b Látigo
5) Daga & The King DRAW Black Terry & Solar I
Terry suffered a shoulder injury.
6) Penta Zero M DQ RushGarza Jr.La Máscara
Pierroth got involved, which might have caused the DQ.

Building looked about half full; I suspect DTU will end up drawing better for their own year end show in this building in a couple weeks. CuadrilateroTV says Black Terry suffered a shoulder dislocation. It was initially thought he might need an operation, but the doctor fixed it and he’ll only need some rest.

The Crash (FRI) 12/01/2017 Auditorio de Tijuana, Tijuana, Baja California [126F, San Diego Red, The Crash, @JorgeGCRR]
1) Aramis (Estado de México) & Toxin (Estado de México) b Arkángel Divino & Black Boy
Money thrown in. Aramis pinned Arkangel.
2) Christi Jaynes, Keyra, Lacey Lane b Black Danger, Jonathan, Último Maldito
crowd was strongly behind the women against the men. Money thrown in.
3) Jack Evans b Hijo de LA ParkJoey RyanLuke HawxViento
Billed as a trios, but no Famous B, so they just made it a 5 way.
4) Damián 666 & M-ximo DQ Black Taurus & Pierroth
Garza ran in and piledrived Damian for the DQ. Daga & Fenix got involved in the post match and cage match challenges followed.
5) Matt Jackson & Nick Jackson b Daga & The King
Daga replaced Flamita. Finish saw the Bucks land the Meltzer Driver on Daga, then Fenix roll up Matt Jackson. Referee counted three, but only for the Bucks.
6) La Máscara & Rush b LA Park & Nicho el Millionario and Bestia 666 & Garza Jr.
Nicho made a surprise return, taking Daga’s place and wearing his Psicosis gear. After the match, Rush said he only wanted to defend his hair against LA Park’s mask, which Park brushed off – he felt he had Rush beat in Arena Mexico and CMLL stopped the match to save him. Park teased restarting the LWO (!?!) with Psicosis.

Looked like another full house or close to it. They’re still really strong in Tijuana, where they’ve had a year of good shows (as opposed to just debuting and not being known well everywhere else.) They teased the cage match in January heavily enough that I guess that might actually be happening. Semimain was said to be very good but the finish was strange.

ELITE (FRI) 12/01/2017 Deportivo Pavón, Ciudad de México, Distrito Federal [+LuchaTV, R de Rudo]
Attendance: 650
1) Hip Hop Man & Mosca (Argentina) b Rocky Lobo & Saru
2) Villano V Jr. b Gallo Tapado Jr.León Dorado Jr.Jaque Mate Jr.
Gallo Tapado Jr., Leon Dorado Jr., Jaque Mate Jr. replaced Hijo de Mascara Sagrada, Super Muneco Jr., and Super Tapatio Jr.
3) Dr. Karonte Jr., Hijo De Dos Caras, Tyson La Bestia b Alas de Oro, Dragón Dorado, Golden Magic
Dos cheated to win.
4) Bandido © DRAW Xtreme Tiger [ELITE WELTER]
3rd defense? No details on the draw. Tiger wanted a rematch.
5) Trauma I & Trauma II b Sharlie Rockstar & Zorro
No Ultima Ninja. The match was changed around to have Zorro & Sharlie teaming, only they didn’t get a long and that caused them to lose.
6) Mr. Electro b CibernéticoBlue Demon
Mr. Electro got the win after Hijo de Dos Caras and Golden Magic both were involved.

That’s a decent turnout considering the WWE show (which seemed to draw well), the CMLL show (which did not), and even AAA running in Neza (which was around half full, about what you’d expect.) The results don’t interest me much; the last four finishes being interference, team break up, draw, and rudo cheating doesn’t seem inspired. There were cameras at ringside shooting the show, but I guess I don’t know if they were Azteca or +LuchaTV or someone else. Elite didn’t appear to give any date of when this would air on TV Azteca, or say much at all.

CMLL (FRI) 12/01/2017 Arena México [ClaroOvacionesthecubsfan]
1) Shockercito & Stukita DQ Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
13:45. Tecncios took 2/3, the last by DQ when Mercurio tossed Shockercito over the top rope.
2) Cancerbero, Raziel, Virus b Astral, Pegasso, Stigma LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
12:28. Rudos took 1/2, the last when Pegasso unmasked Raziel.
3) Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Silueta b Dalys, La Seductora, Tiffany LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Seductora replaced Zeuxis early in the week. 13:44. Tecnicas took 23/.
4) Hechicero, Sam Adonis, Vangellys b Blue Panther, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
17:06. Rudos took 1/3.
5) Mr. Niebla, Rey Bucanero, Terrible b Marco Corleone, Titán, Valiente LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
11:09. Rudos took 1/3.
6) Niebla Roja b CarísticoNegro CasasVolador Jr.MephistoMisticoShockerDragón LeeEuforiaSansónStuka Jr.Felino [Copa Jr. VIP] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 1º DE DICIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
27:45. Sanson replaced Dragon Rojo on Tuesday (injury). Cibernetico sides were tecnicos vs rudos. Eliminator order: Stuka (by Euforia), Felino (Dragon Lee), Dragon Lee (Sanson), Euforia (Caristico), Shocker & Volador were DQed, Negro Casas (Caristico), Mistico (Sanson), Sanson (Caristico), Caristico (Mephsito) and Mephsito (Niebla Roja.) Roja landed badly twice in the last couple minutes but seemed OK after the match.

There are some CMLL shows you might as well skip. This is one you definitely should skip. The undercard was largely boring when it wasn’t bad, and the main event was a sloppy disappointment that nearly completely derailed. Mephisto needs to stop going to the second rope because it’s not working out for the people he’s with. Caristico mentioned he was hurt on Twitter after this match, which is probably mean to be his explanation for his own shaky performance. CMLL’s pushing Niebla Roja stronger after the Anniversary show (which is more a reflection about how badly that was messed up), and they have him doing every Hector Garza spot they can think of.

Arena Coliseo Guadalajara has a Facebook post up teasing the son of a legend debuting soon. The commenters think it’s Atlantis’ son, and they might be right.

Shows of note this weekend


  • AAA tapes in Xalapa. AAA’s matches haven’t changed as much from their lineups on the last couple tapings, and there’d will be two title matches if that holds up here. Villano III & La Hiedra, who previously lost to Big Mami & Nino Hamburguesa in a non-title match, will challenge for the mixed tag titles. Cuervo & Scoria will get a rematch for the regular tag title against Murder & Monster Clown. The main is listed as a trios, combining the three main feuds: Psycho/Escorpion, Fantasma/Texano, and Wagner/Mundo (using Hernandez as a stand in.) This is the second to last taping of the year, with another to come in two weeks.
    • FWIW, last week’s TV announced Guerra de Titanes would be in Mexico City in January, but didn’t give a location or a date. Still guessing the weekend of the 21st in Gimnasio Juan de la Barrera.
  • Arena Coliseo has a very rare defense of the Mexican Lightweight title. Electrico figures to retain over Pequeno Nitro, but CMLL hasn’t made it mean anything to anyone besides those two people.
  • Jun Kasai has the first of his two matches in Mexico in Monterrey’s NGX. He teams with Joe Lider to face Pagano & Violento Jack, which is why Pagano is not part of the TV taping.
  • The finals of the Matematico nuevo valores tournament happens in Mexico City. I am not sure who’s left, but I know the Furia de Titanes Facebook page was covering this with (live?) video last round, so it might be something easy to watch.
  • The same luchadors who were in New York last night head to New Jersey today.


An interview with Zacatecas referee El Coyote.


CMLL (FRI) 12/08/2017 Arena México
1) Shockercito & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Olímpico
2) Oro Jr., Pegasso, Star Jr. vs Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Virus
3) Drone, Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa vs Euforia, Hechicero, Pólvora
4) Dragón Lee vs Titán [lightning]
5) Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis vs Marco Corleone, Negro Casas, Valiente [Relevos Increíbles]
6) Carístico, Soberano Jr., Último Guerrero vs Mistico, Terrible, Volador Jr. [Relevos Increíbles]

The semimain is along the lines of Relevos Incredibles we’re used to this year: listed as one, but just really Los Ingobernables versus some tecnicos. The main event is the old version we used to get, which usually set up things. This is at least a tease of Mistico/Caristico again.

Titan has never had a singles match with this Dragon Lee, but he did long ago have one with the original that was pretty fun. This should be too.

The Shockercito/Mercurio feud is interesting, because I thought they had hit their limit of apuesta matches. Maybe a third one on the Friday before Three Kings Day (01/05)?

MDA (SUN) 12/17/2017 Arena Coliseo Monterrey
1) Greco Baez vs Vazco Jr.
2) Black Raider vs Baby FaoxRey PanteraQuinto Elemento [Copa Rey Orion]
3) El Bandido (Indie) © vs The Tiger [WWA WELTER]
first defense
4) Makabre & Toscano vs Furor & Galactar
5) Xtreme Tiger vs Ninja Jr.
6) El Hijo Del Santo & Laredo Kid vs La Máscara & Zorro

This is a very random lineup; I think there must be another show pulling away talent from this one, because the main event just looks weird. The WWA Welter is the Todo x el Todo belt, so Santo being in the main event is probably why Bandido is defending it here.

One thought to “Niebla Roja wins (disappointing) Copa Jr., Nicho returns in TJ, Elite”

  1. i dont know if you have the numbers and all that , but i would be very interested how much the Crash is drawing on people coming to thier shows since their tour started?

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