AAA on Televisa: 2017-11-04 

 

Rudo double team.

Recapped: 11/19/2017

The first match is from Domo San Luis, San Luis Potosí, San Luis Potosí, taped 10/01/2017. It only aired on stations which get a longer version of the AAA show (and likely aired as part of one of the previous weeks of TV on those channels, only I can’t consistently track down that show.) It has not aired on any regular AAA show and there’s no public explanation or reason why it hasn’t, which is very unusual for a main event of any TV taping. 

The last four matches aired from Palenque de la Feria, Metepec, Estado de México, taped 10/20/2017.

Matches:

Pagano beat El Mesías and Joe Lider in a death match
(10:06, Pagano Air Raid Crash thru a table on fire Joe Lider, below average, via thecubsfan)

Bronco González Jr. & Chicano beat Rugido & Solaris
(6:40, Chicano top rope senton con giro Rugido, good, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Big Mami & Niño Hamburguesa beat La Hiedra & Villano III Jr.
(8:54, Niño Hamburguesa frog splash Villano III, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Angelikal, Hijo Del Vikingo, Lanzeloth beat Ángel Mortal Jr., Australian Suicide, Tiger Boy
(7:52, Lanzeloth spinning fireman’s slam Australian Suicide, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Dave The Clown, Monsther Clown, Murder Clown beat Dark Cuervo, Dark Scoria, La Parka  
(11:05, Dave frontcracker La Parka, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened: 

can you play dead for about 10 seconds for a video package shot, Pagano? Thanks

Earlier in the night, Cuervo & Scoria wanted to talk strategy with La Parka about the main event match, but Parka didn’t want anything with them. Like everyone else who follows this promotion, he never saw these two dudes turn técnico and doesn’t really trust them. He wants them to earn his trust. In one of those remarkable coincidences, they get that chance two seconds later: Psicosis & Histeria attack Parka for no reason and Cuervo & Scoria make the save. That wins Parka over. In the match itself, Los Vipers return to attack the Secta when they have the match won. (Tirantes distracted himself poorly to miss the interference.) Parka stares at the rudos, and gets caught by a frontcracker by Dave the Clown.

Australian Suicide is looking like the lead singer of Green Day now. Tiger Boy is now The Tiger Boy.

The técnicos are mixed tag champs. They pose before the match like the titles are not on the line, but it’s apparently not a title match. La Hiedra is wearing a Sangre Chicana inspired outfit. Hiedra walks out on Villano III for losing the match.

Rugido is another new name for Dizzy, presented as AAA’s new find.

Noti AAA has Dia de los Muertos celebrations and Dr. Wagner Jr. talking about his evolution. They’ve cut back on listing him as “Rey Wagner”, but he still pushes the idea of it here.

a bad idea

I grabbed the Heroes Inmortales off one of the TV internet feeds (and so the video quality is terrible.) It’s also very obviously clipped. The really obvious edit comes about 5:30 into the video, where suddenly a wood board with light tubes and a ladder materialize in the ring. On fan video of the full match (which has since been removed from YouTube but appeared to be close to 30 minutes total), you can see Mesias have trouble folding the ladder, the ladder tipping in the crowd, the fans yelling at Mesias about it and him yelling back. Mesias and Pagano crowd brawl a while later, and it doesn’t seem like the floor camera tries to follow them. The TV version resumes a minute or so after they come back, and Mesias is noticeably limping by that point. There’s more edits after that – a moment where Mesias leaves the ring to yell at fans, fans throw drinks at him, and Mesias goes harder after the fans is also not shown on TV. Same thing with Lider choking Pagano with the barbed wire and a powerbomb on the announce time, Pagano doing a splash to the floor that misses to set up Lider cutting him again, Joe Lider doing an Asia Moosnault, and Mesias taking a splash.

Everyone bleeds. Joe Lider, who seems to have gained a lot of weight lately, takes the Air Raid Crash onto a flaming table. Somehow that’s not the finish – Pagano has to DDT Mesias too, and then covers Joe Lider, who’s grabbing his head and doesn’t actually have his shoulders down. (This is Mesias’ last match for now. In the bigger picture, it comes off like Mesias was probably supposed to be get surgery after TripleMania, was convinced to stick around because they had a shortage of actual Lucha Underground people for the Japan LU shows, and they made this match the main event as a reward while adding Joe Lider just to take the load off. It’s one of many AAA storylines which don’t make sense on screen and only make sense when you guess at what must’ve been going on behind the scenes.)

Thoughts: 

Hijo del Vikingo is still on this show

The main event combined a lot of wrestlers who aren’t all that interesting into one familiar feeling matches. The Traidor Clowns are one of the least capable groups to stooge Parka’s comedy, but they’re doing it all the same anyway. Cuervo & Scoria were occasionally in the match, but this was much more abut the Vipers and Dave/Parka than anything they had to offer.

The third match and the regular tag match shared some energy and the young guys trying to big things. They both had issues with smoothiness – a little bit of people hesitating on moves, or going at the speed they must’ve practiced the spots rather than naturally reacting to what was happening behind them. Hijo del Vikingo still can do some amazing things but didn’t get focused as much as the star in this one as he did in past match. There really wasn’t any particular direction to the match, and there sort of needs to be one in every match when you’ve got so few of them as week. The finish itself didn’t look as strong as a lot of things that came before it, and this came down to a borderline match on my part. The ending looked like it was a screw up – Angel Mortal broke it up just at 3 – and the result didn’t make any sense if Suicide was going to get the title shot on the very next taping. Maybe AAA didn’t know for sure Suicide was challenging next, but they probably still could’ve safer pinned Tiger Boy or Angel Mortal since there’s very obviously no plans for them. The week to week storytelling is abysmal.

The mixed tag is what you’d expect, a lot of Big spots around Mami & Hamburguesa. They did what they do about as well as they ever do. La Hiedra’s offense didn’t look good at all, but it’s not so much of a surprise given who they were working with here. Villano III trying to do tricky armdrags with Big Mami was pushing it. Really, the rudos couldn’t do the comedy stuff well, and they’re not great enough wrestlers themselves to make this work themselves. Villano III was the better of the two at it, but not so much that you need to see it.

Parka as Mistico, the clowns as Avenro & Mephisto, just slower

The actual opener was borderline match. Nothing much stuck out to me but it kept moving for the time they had. Match was pleasantly fine for a novato match except for the spot about four and half in where Chicano and Solaris were hopelessly lost for about 10 seconds. These aren’t really novatos though; Rugido’s been around forever and Chicano’s not a spring chicken, but they’re being given novato amount of things to do. Bronco is one of their better bases of this group, and so it wasn’t probably an accident he was around to make Rugido’s iffy spots look good. Not sure why you’d make that effort and also have him lose in his debut but so it goes.

The three way match combined the mindless violence of a poor hardcore match with the directionless violence of a bad three way match. We saw an XMW three way hardcore match live, everyone but me seemed to hate it (I just didn’t care enough to hate it, a personal flaw) and I’m not sure it was any worse than this. This was Mesias’ last match before going in for double knee surgery, and he’s moving erratically and painfully for most of the match. The editing definitely hurts the match – it seemed as much for time as content. I’d be livid if I was one of these guys who took all this abuse, very few people got to see it on TV, and more than half the crazy stuff I did wasn’t shown at all. That just shouldn’t be happening in 2017. (A lot of this shouldn’t be happening in 2017.) Even the stuff we did get on TV was made worse by how it was presented; the crowd was much more into Pagano in the match live than it came thru.

This match brings back the old DTU tradition of putting barbed wire on one side of the ring, and everyone (mostly Lider) stopping short of hitting the ropes for no logical reason. That draws snickers from the fan cam I watched, for this super serious death match they’re trying to do. This match is not something I want to see at all, but they also managed to make the least of it.

CMLL Bodybuilding contest, Rush vs UG (and also UG vs Rush), Shocker, Crash in SLP

CMLL (TUE) 11/28/2017 Arena México [CMLL, Wrestling With GIFS]
1) Artillero & Espanto Jr. b Bengala & Sonic LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Magia Blanca, Star Jr., Starman DQ Disturbio, Sangre Azteca, Templario LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Blue Panther Jr., Drone, The Panther b Misterioso Jr., Sagrado, Tiger LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Tecnicos took 1/3.
4) Vangellys b Pólvora [lightningLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Ephesto, Luciferno, Okumura b Johnny Idol, Stuka Jr., Valiente LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Johnny Idol and Valiente had problems, and Idol helped the rudos by the end of the match.
6) Gran Guerrero, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero DQ Mistico, Rush, Volador Jr. LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 28 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rush fouled UG and challenged him to a match (for the second show in a row!)

If you’re keeping up, that means UG and Rush challenged for a match on Monday and for Tuesday. Both will occur: Guerrero defends the NWA Middleweight Championship on Monday, then they meet again on Tuesday.

This fits along CMLL’s new Twitter accounts, in a fashion. There’s new ones split by arena: @Arena_MX, @Arena_Coliseo, @Arena_GDL, and @Arena_Puebla. All the information you’re using to seeing on the @CMLL_Oficial account will still be there, with the idea that a fan living in Puebla could more simply just follow only that specific account if they just wanted to see those lineups. They’ve also been doing the Arena Mexico/Arena Coliseo results on the arena specific twitter accounts and just RT-ing those on the main one. If you’re already following the main twitter account and you like what you’ve been getting, you don’t really need to change anything. If you want less but more specific, you can follow one of the other accounts instead.

CMLL is doing this, like they’re doing Rush/UG back to back nights, because they believe the vast majority of the audience are people who follow CMLL by attending their local buildings and might not be interested in anything else that happens at any other building or even any other day of the week. Rush and Ultimo Guerrero can – and probably will, given those two – work largely the same match on Tuesday as they will on Monday because they’ll feel most of the people one day won’t have seen it the next. There have been stories over the years that generally back up that idea – there was one after CMLL cut back on running Arena Coliseo where fans were disappointed, because  they were going to Coliseo because it was right in the neighborhood and weren’t interested in making a trip elsewhere.

What’s changed is CMLL has a pretty active YouTube account. I don’t know how much they actually make from it, and I suspect it’s not all that much if it’s a positive cash flow at all. It’s existence means there’s more people watching pretty much every Arena Puebla show live online than there are in the building Monday nights, and there’s probably more people watching every Tuesday Arena Mexico live show online than who will have an actual ticket stub. (And it’s likely not even close.) Lucha libre is better live, so people who are spending their time watching on the internet must like it more than most, yet CMLL (and all lucha libre promotions) don’t do all that much to take advantage of it. and usually just hand waves at their existence by doing stuff like booking the same matches on back to back shows, or by hyping a book release that will be unavailable over the internet. It’s great that we get to watch a lot of free CMLL on a weekly basis (or have the option to pick which things we actually want to watch), but it feels like something CMLL puts a lot of effort into something for an audience they’re not all that concerned about cultivating. I want to say “if you’re going to bother streaming, then maybe make it worthwhile” but maybe the other fair response is “maybe it’s not good for you to be streaming all this much if you’re going to repeat so many matches.” I struggle at understanding the long term end goals for a lot in lucha libre, and CMLL’s digital strategy is just one other thing on the list.

 

Johnny Idol definitely turned rudo last night. He’s on the tecnico side on Saturday and not booked in Arena Mexico next week, and I’m not sure why you’d do this without having him booked to follow up. I’m not sure Idol is any good as a rudo but it wasn’t working out as a tecnico.

I missed it with the Dragon Rojo changes, but Zeuxis is also off Friday’s CMLL show. La Seductora takes her spot. Zeuxis was already booked for Monterrey’s LLF, where she’ll face Diosa Quetzal.

I didn’t have much time to watch the Bodybuilding Contest today. They did have Virus out showing off his trainees (they’ve been Arkangel or Tony Salazar ones in previous years.) The top three in each division

Micros: Angel (debuting), Chico Temido, Microman
Students: Angel del Amor, Mosca, Kroc
Principiante: Soberano Jr., Sangre Imperial, Coyote
Intermediate: Niebla Roja, Titan, Cuatrero
Women: Dalys, Sanely, Princesa Sugehit
Advanced: Astral, Electrico, Principe Diamante

Astral was once again the overall winner after not placing last year. Dalys won for the third year straight, fourth overall. Principe Diamante had won in the beginners or intermediate division for the last three years.

The Crash returns to San Luis Potosi tonight. They’ve drawn one really big crowd and one really not big crowd. They’re running in the normal lucha arena of Auditorio Miguel Barrgan with LA Park debuting for the group, teaming with Daga & Penta vs La Mascara, Pierroth and Rush. Fenix & Flamita will have another rematch as the semimain. Video turned up of the last couple shows in San Luis Potosi so there’s a chance we could see this.

Shocker went on Mexican TV show Ventaneando to explain his version of his recent arrest. Shocker says he went out drinking with other wrestlers after a show. His wife has told him not to come home when he’s been drinking, so he got a hotel room. (Shocker here admits he’s had a problem with drinking.) Shocker fell asleep, work up, and figured he had time for more drinking. As he was going back to his room again afterwards, he felt someone following into his room, so he “defended” himself, including using a fire extinguisher. He says there was no sex worker involved. The one point of agreement with the original story was he ended up paying around 20,000 pesos for damages, down from the 30,000 they originally wanted. I’m not sure if I believe Shocker’s story, but even his own story is a sad tale of a guy who can’t stop himself from picking drinking over his family.

Elite announced their second show will be 12/08 in Cuauitlan. Tickets for their first show are running 120 to 380 pesos, or about $20USD for the high end.

Deadspin has an interview with Cody (Rhodes) about his and the Young Bucks plan to run an indie show that will break the 10,000 mark. Cody mentions there’s a plan to include lucha libre on the show but didn’t mention any specifics. Cody was evasive earlier when answering if it’ll be a ROH show, where they’re all currently employed. It might be better for them it not to be a ROH affiliation would prevent them them from using guys like Fenix and Penta (or even more out of the box guys like Santo & LA Park.) It’s unclear what ROH can and can not actually do as far as other using lucha libre talent when it comes to their alliances with NJPW & CMLL, but it’s not an obstacle at all if they run it without a ROH affiliation. That’s a small factor in a bigger deal (and if the only way they can get key NJPW people is by labeling it as ROH, then that’s the deal to make) and this show still seems a long way away from happening.

(I think Lucha Azteca is possibly seen weekly by more people than Lucha Underground, but it definitely hasn’t had the same success at making big US names for either the Mexican or US audiences, and ROH itself hasn’t made any great strides in getting anyone but slightly Dragon Lee and Ultimo Guerrero over with their audience. Cycling around with different CMLL names is giving more guys a cool weekend here or there but not helping in getting anyone or the concept over. Building those CMLL guys into bigger names could be done, and they’re probably attracting an even more different audience than the LU guys because of the lack of cross over, but it’s not like the CMLL guys are filling up rooms when they’re working locally promoted lucha indies right now. The real solution is for CMLL & Crash to actually make a deal to let CMLL guys work on shows with The Crash guys – CMLL has specifically told them they can’t in the past – because that would open a lot doors and improve situations more than in just a one off novelty show.)

Rush and HIjo del Fantasma said things to each other on Twitter. This is being used to sell the idea of a CMLL/AAA show, which still isn’t happening.

DTU has a promo from Billy Gamer. He & Toto Gamer are debuting tag team Game Over on their next set of shows.

Periodco La Voz has interviews with Estrellato & Rey Astral.

A story about a lucha libre (and music and art) show in Tepito as diversion from crime is getting picked up in a lot of places.

Lineups

CMLL (MON) 12/04/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja vs Fuerza Chicana & Guerrero Espacial
2) Espíritu Maligno, Millenium, Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Cancerbero, El Perverso, Raziel
3) Esfinge, Fuego, Stigma vs Cuatrero, Hechicero, Sansón
4) Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Titán vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
5) Carístico, Marco Corleone, Valiente vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Sam Adonis
6) Último Guerrero © vs Rush [NWA MIDDLE]
14th defense.

Beyond the title match, the tercera could be pretty good.

CMLL (TUE) 12/05/2017 Arena México
1) Sangre Imperial & Sensei vs El Coyote & Espanto Jr.
2) Fiero, Oro Jr., Starman vs Hijo del Signo, Nitro, Raziel
3) Fuego, Pegasso, Stigma vs Disturbio, Tiger, Universo 2000 Jr.
4) Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr., Titán vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
5) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas, Okumura, Sam Adonis
6) Rush vs Último Guerrero

Okumura seems like he’s in a higher position than he used to be, but it might just be about keeping the NGD together. Their match looks the bet on the show. Second match has at least four feuding people (Starman, Fiero, Signo, Raziel) in the lead up to the cage match.

CMLL (TUE) 12/05/2017 Arena Coliseo Guadalajara
1) Magnum & Tigre Blanco vs Frezzer & Furia Roja
2) Lady Maravilla, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Dalys, Reyna Isis, Zeuxis
3) Puma © vs Esfinge [OCCIDENTE LH]
2nd defense
4) Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
5) Marco Corleone, Soberano Jr., Valiente vs Kráneo, Pierroth, Rush

I’m about as big a supporter of Puma as you’ll find, but I’d be very surprised if he kept the title over Esfinge. The Guadalajara native more or less has replaced Gallo as the strongest push local and might as well have a title belt if that’s how they’re going to be it. In reality, it matters not at all if it’s Felino’s son or Magnum’s son who has this title, because CMLL’s been pretty clear none of the Occidente Championships are all that important

Occidente last CMLL defense:
Heavyweight (Diamante Azul): May 6, 2014
Light Heavyweight (Puma King): March 13, 2016
Middleweight (Joker): June 25, 2017
Welterweight (Star Black): September 25, 2016
Tag Team (Esfinge & Rielero): July 16, 2017*
Trios (NGD): March 12, 2017*
* – also had a later indy defense

I’d like to be upset about Efinge being gifted a title thru nepotism, but it’s so pointless when half the titles haven’t even been defended this year. The upside is there’s a decent chance we get a Puma three falls singles match on TV.

great match roundup, week of 2017-10-28

Soberano

in this group

I’m so far thrown off that I started working on the 10/31 recap again before realizing I had to have posted that one. There’s a lot of disposable CMLL b-show matches going on; note only one recommended match this week, and only two last week. It’s not getting better.

MOTYC list is updated.

Recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Diamante Azul vs MisticoSoberano Jr.ValienteCuatreroForasteroHechiceroSansón [Rey del Inframundo] LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 3 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-03 2017-11-03
good Rey Wagner vs Johnny Mundo © for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship Héroes Inmortales XI Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Octubre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) Johnny Mundo vs Rey Wagner por el Mega Campeonato AAA (posted by Estrellas del Ring) AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-28 2017-10-01
good Lady Maravilla vs Zeuxis in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-31 2017-10-31
good Drone, Esfinge, Rey Cometa vs Puma, Tiger, Virus LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 3 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-03 2017-11-03
good Dalys © vs Marcela for the CMLL World Women’s Championship LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 3 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-03 2017-11-03

Other matches

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Argenis vs LanzelothRicky MarvinAvernoChessmanSúper FlyTito SantanaMocho Cota Jr.Carta Brava Jr.RaptorDragoAerostar [domed cage] Héroes Inmortales XI Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Octubre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) OGT´S vs Poder del Norte vs Ejercito AAA vs Cadetes del Espacio en el Domo de la Muerte (posted by Estrellas del Ring) AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-28 2017-10-01
ok Astral vs Virus in a lightning match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 30 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-30 2017-10-30
ok Blue Panther Jr., Fuego, Rey Cometa vs Olímpico, Pólvora, Sagrado LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 30 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-30 2017-10-30
ok Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Soberano Jr. vs Hechicero, Kráneo, Rey Bucanero LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 30 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-30 2017-10-30
ok Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Cavernario, Ephesto, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 30 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-30 2017-10-30
ok Flyer & Magia Blanca vs Apocalipsis & Cholo LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-31 2017-10-31
ok Eléctrico, Shockercito, Stukita vs Mercurio, Pequeño Olímpico, Pierrothito LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-31 2017-10-31
ok Blue Panther Jr., Johnny Idol, The Panther vs Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado Disturbio Cmll, Sagrado y Misterioso Jr vs The Panther, Blue Panther Jr y Jhony Idol. 1a caída (posted by Princesa Dorada) Disturbio Cmll, Sagrado y Misterioso Jr vs The Panther, Blue Panther Jr y Jhony Idol. 2a y 3a caidas (posted by Princesa Dorada) LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-31 2017-10-31
ok Blue Panther, Guerrero Maya Jr., Soberano Jr. vs Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 31 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-31 2017-10-31
ok Astral & Robin vs Artillero & Espanto Jr. LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 3 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-03 2017-11-03
ok Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Stuka Jr. vs Cavernario, Negro Casas, Shocker LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 3 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-03 2017-11-03
ok Carístico, Rush, Volador Jr. vs Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 3 DE NOVIEMBRE DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-11-03 2017-11-03
below average Johnny Mundo © vs La ParkaRey EscorpiónPsycho ClownHijo del FantasmaHernandezPsicosis IIMambaMurder ClownDark CuervoMonsther ClownDark ScoriaEstrella DivinaHisteria IIMarty MartinezPimpinela EscarlataDave The Clown for the AAA Latin American Championship and for the Copa Antonio Pena Héroes Inmortales XI Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Octubre 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) Lucha por la Copa Antonio Peña y el Campeonato Latinoamericano AAA (posted by Estrellas del Ring) AAA on Televisa: 2017-10-28 2017-10-01
not rated Millenium & París vs El Perverso & King Jaguar LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 30 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-30 2017-10-30
not rated Espíritu Maligno & Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Cancerbero & RazielLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 30 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-10-30 2017-10-30