lucha TV preview for weekend of October 27th

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CMLL Claro is the last stream that’s going to be affected by the time difference, at least for about five months. The show starts one hour later this week and this week only. It should be a show worth staying up for, but you can always watch it on YouTube the next day.

Not on the schedule, but there’s a chance the CMLL Sunday show ends up airing with no notice. They aired Dia de Muertos special in 2016, but not 2015. It’s a 5pm CT start if it airs, and it’s an ordinary looking show.

CMLL GDL has a Ultimo Guerrero vs Volador match this week. I’ll be trying to upload stuff from Mexico, but no idea if it’ll work.

CMLL on 2017-10-20 

Caristico gets back to his people

Recapped: 10/24/2017


Disturbio & Sangre Azteca beat Oro Jr. & Star Jr.
(12:42 seen, 2/3, not rated, via

Misterioso Jr., Pólvora, Sagrado beat Guerrero Maya Jr., Pegasso, Rey Cometa
(13:26 [5:49, 2:45, 4:52], 1/3, ok, via

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Ángel de Oro, Niebla Roja, Soberano Jr.
(18:25 [5:32, 3:22, 9:31], 1/3, great, via

Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Terrible beat Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis in a relevos increíbles match
(8:59 [1:38, 7:21], 1/2, ok, via

Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero beat Diamante Azul, Mistico, Valiente
(9:50 [3:05, 2:12, 4:33], 1/3, ok, via

Volador Jr. beat Carístico in a CMLL’s Leyenda de Plata Tournament match
(23:40 [3:04, 2:13, 18:23], 1/3, great, via

  1. Volador backcracker (3:04)

  2. Mistico torito (2:13)

  3. Volador top rope huracanrana (18:23)

What happened:

like old times

Carístico made a point of handingVolador the plaque himself and kneeling and bowing in front of him after the man event. Volador, who worked slight rudo during the match, kind of blew him off. Carístico seemed to be waiting for Volador to give him a handshake or something and Volador just left to go hang out with the fans. CMLL weirdly switched to playing Caristico’s music and the fans react to something. If it was Volador acknowledging Carístico, we were never shown it.

Sam Adonis taped Negro Casas to the ropes in the first fall, and shoved Tirantes for the first fall DQ. Adonis tried faking a foul in the second, but was caught and disqualified.


matador de leones

This was the Volador big spot match, but with the opposite crowd of usual. There definitely was a vocal part of the audience back to see their Mistico in a big match, they cheered their guy (outcheering the Volador fans early, 50/50 later) and Volador went a touch rudo. It wasn’t totally a peak Mistico match, Volador got his own stuff in and didn’t feed Carístico in an Averno like fashion, but it did feel a like throwback to an earlier time in moments. Both men took advantage of the emotion to deliver a strong performance. It got a little shaky late, but only after they had been given a lot. The fans desperately cared about who would win or lose this match, which is not something true about most CMLL matches. (The tournaments are too much, but those finals are the most often produced that emotion this year.) I got sucked in more by this match even though the work wasn’t as spectacular as the NGD trios, and I’d put it easily ahead of that match for me.

The semimain was alright, but lacked some sort of excitement outside of the diehards in for the main event booing Mistico. Classic match where everything was performed generally well but I can’t imagine remembering much about it a week from now. Diamante Azul being strong enough to toss the Guerreros around around and then not strong enough to properly toss Mistico for his headscissors was odd.

still hilarious

The Negro Casas/Sam Adonis feud needs something to liven it up. It’ll do fine, just like this match was fine. This just feels like a repetition of what Adonis has been doing for months with a different legend. It feels like they’ve cut down the Trump/patriotism aspect of the rivalry, where Blue Panther being defending the honor of the Mexican people was part of what drove the public reaction in the first feud. This match had some production issues near the end. Terrible had a great tope and Rey Bucanero flew in the crowd and we only saw only about half of either.

NGD and the Angels had an another exciting athletic match. The match was lifted by the spectacular técnico spots, but it really felt like the young rudos were holding it together at part. Soberano had some shaky moments while also pulling off crazy high spots. He’s the right mix of wildness to Angel de Oro & Niebla Roja’s predictability. Soberano’s tornillo is looking better every time, and the triple dive spot was nicely done. The breakup via move sequence was also pretty inventive. The big NGD matches tend to have more sequences and team spots than the most trios matches; not sure if that’s them, or if they’re such a focus that people are helping them include it, but it gives the matches a bigger feel. This was spectacular enough that it was worth a watch, though close to the borderline.

Volador stage dive

The segunda match was the normal second/third match with this group, plus some comedy. Sagrado is the tannest man alive. Others are as tan, but no one could be more than that he looked here. Cometa missing his sunset flip and crawling back was hilarious. So was Misterioso and Guerrero Maya going to do the star and then realizing they were on opposite teams. This match wasn’t anything special but it still was enjoyable.

The opener is missing a fall. The stream was not working on Friday, and that’s probably a result of CMLL trying to restart it to get it working. The video jumps about 9:48 but the same people stay in the ring so it’s not totally apparent anything’s missing until the next fall starts with the third fall sign. What we saw of the match was missing any excitement and sometimes sloppy. Everyone seems to mess up a spot right before the finish. This probably would’ve gotten a weak grade if aired in full.

Atlantis return plans, Naito & Takahashi one night in CMLL, Castillo del Terror

Today is IWRG’s annual Castillo del Terror show. IWRG shows are usually Wednesdays, but it’s a day late so the death of someone’s mask can align with the Dia de los Muertos. This cage match has been most notable for the way the results have happened rather than the results themselves. The 2015 cage match had el Golpeador accidentally fall of the side of the cage too soon, which should’ve meant intended winner Golden Magic lose his mask. IWRG went with the idea Magic won and Golpeador lose anyway, and the fans blamed Magic instead of Golpeador or the promotion. IWRG “fixed” this issue in 2106 by having Zatura dive off the top of the cage, sell an injury, and then everyone else left at the exact same time. Who knows what they’ll try in 2017.

the people in this cage match, grouped by chances they’ll lose their mask

Nope: Trauma I, Leo, Black Dragón, Aramis, Diablo Jr., Warrior Jr.
Long shot: La Mosca, Capo Del Norte
Maybe: Spartan, Violencia Jr.

Those young guys are going to be behind forever and are some level pushed. La Mosca is probably going home to Argentina at some point so losing his mask in this wouldn’t be as big deal, though still seems unlikely. The Capo gimmicks fit the mold of short term IWRG gimmicks where they’ll just stop existing after three months, but that time isn’t up yet. Spartan & Violencia fit the usual loser mold, recognizable figures from IWRG past who suddenly start showing up about a month before this match.

Arena Lopez Mateos has Rush & Pierroth against the LA Parks today.

At the end of yesterday’s Informa, CMLL announced Tetsuya Naito & Hiromu Takahashi (Kamaitachi) will be returning to CMLL for one night only, Sunday November 12th. (NJPW confirmed this later that night.) I believe they’re wrestling in the UK the days prior and the next NJPW tour starts day later – this is sort of a long layover in Mexico City on their way back home. Sunday CMLL shows are not streamed; even this upcoming Sunday show, the special Dia de Muertos show, has not been mentioned to be streamed. Naito CMLL matches have turned up on NJPW World at times, and it’s probably a better chance it’ll eventually turn up there than CMLL breaking from their normal practices.

In Japan, Naito’s been arguing the World Tag League, that next tour, is boring and so he has to make up for the poor effort of NJPW by creating his own drama. (NJPW fans seem to agree the WTL is boring.) Naito teases a big surprise partner every year as that missing hype. Two years ago, it was probably supposed to be Sombra, but it turned out to be EVIL since Sombra went to WWE. Last year was Rush’s return to NJPW. Rush makes the most sense again this year. Pierroth would be bad but hilarious. A new Ingobernable would be big news, especially since Rush has seemed to be pretty set on Los Ingobernables in CMLL being only him and Pierroth since La Mascara was fired. I don’t expect big things in the match itself because of the setup, but there’s a chance of a notable angle out of it.

Mr. Cacao will be on the 11/14 Tuesday show, and only that show. You’ll get to see that one

Atlantis talked with PubliMetro yesterday, which was billed as his first interview since being injured. His knee operation was on July 30th, and he’s hoping to return to the ring in late November or early December. He’s targeting a 2018 debut for his son; Atlantis wanted to help train him, and can’t do it until he’s healthy. Atlantis also teases a big project to be announced near the end of the year and to take place next year.

The director of Mexico’s Cineteca Nacional, the national institute in charge of preserving and honoring Mexico films, was asked if the organization would be honoring El Santo for his 100th birthday. The director said no, because Santo’s movies are bad. He acknowledged they were popular and made money, but felt they had no artistic value. You can imagine how well that one’s going over. Update: The reaction was strong enough that Cineteca Nacional is backing away from the statements of director and talking about honoring el Santo after all.

It’s way under the radar, but Volador Jr. is in the main event with recent AAA Llave a la Gloria winner The Tiger in Monclova today.

Wrestlers for The Crash will be on 12/25 show in Salon Citlali. Penta, Fenix, Latigo, Astrolux, Flamita, Arez, Black Terry and Skayde are among those on the poster; this is probably just using people who are already in Mexico City on that day.

Soberano hopes to be the first King of the Underworld.

Dave the Clown was the guest on this week’s Zona Ruda.

Segunda Caida resumes it’s watching of Lucha Underground again. More characters have been killed off in their reviews of this show than actually on the show at this point.

A new episode of Lucha Talk is up. I wish I could take credit for the title.

CMLL Martes de Nuevo Valores: 2017-10-17 

sure, a Raziel highlight.

Recapped: 10/23/2017


Pequeño Nitro & Pequeño Violencia beat Angelito & Fantasy  
(13:16 [4:16, 4:09, 4:51], 2/3, below average,

Astral, Magnus, Metatrón beat Espanto Jr., Grako, Nitro
(14:22 [6:55, 3:49, 3:38], 1/3, ok, via

Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit beat Amapola, Reyna Isis, Tiffany
(13:10 [6:47, 2:39, 3:44], 2/3, ok, via

Drone beat Raziel in a lightning match
(7:29, rope flip moonsault, ok, via

Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Stuka Jr. beat Hechicero, Puma, Tiger
(17:47 [5:30, 3:53, 8:24], 2/3, ok, via

Cavernario, Euforia, Felino beat Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Niebla Roja
(8:37 [4:59, 3:38], 1/2, ok, via

What happened:


Rudos won the main event in straight falls, with Cavernario beating Niebla Roja to set up a title match next week.


The main event was the standard build up for a title match. Niebla Roja seems more comfortable unmasked and Cavernario’s post match promo was good, but there didn’t seem any special connection between the two of them during this match. Hopefully there will be more in the title match.

The semimain was easily and obviously the match of the night. They got as much time as anyone and made twice as good use of it. The rudos are as good at bumbling around to make the tecnicos look good as anyone: the third fall sequence with Maya in particular came off great. The técnicos bring great energy and it works perfectly for these crowds. This was just missing a bit more drama and bigger moves in the third fall to make it stand out more.

still no

The lightning match was the usual greatest hits bit with not much in between. Drone’s dives look good, Raziel’s top rope Falcon Arrow looked great, but there’s not much more to get out of it than the Gifs.

Isis came back from Japan with something to prove against Marcela, and then messed up a sunset flip. What can you do. She’s consciously trying to be more aggressive and it’s not really happening but it doesn’t matter. Wish they could’ve don more than 3 seconds of Maravilla vs Amapola.

this angle makes it look more devestating.

Grako was off in space for the first fall. Tecnicos were not solid and this match wasn’t exciting outside the last few seconds. The end of match sliding out of the ring felt like the dive ban was still back on.

Angelito’s new gear looks nice. His speed climbing to the top rope could stand to improve. Violencia violently botched something in the second fall, and messed up again in the third fall.