CMLL on 2017-10-27 

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Recapped: 10/27/2017


Starman & Stigma beat Metálico & Nitro
(15:28 [8:38, 3:33, 3:17], 2/3, below average)

Amapola, Dalys, Reyna Isis beat La Jarochita, La Vaquerita, Marcela
(13:09 [5:46, 2:48, 4:35], 2/3, ok)

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Esfinge, Guerrero Maya Jr., The Panther
(14:34 [4:58, 2:39, 6:57], 1/3, good)

Soberano Jr. beat Mephisto in a lightning match
(9:17, top rope tornillo, good)

Diamante Azul, Marco Corleone, Niebla Roja beat Rey Bucanero, Terrible, Vangellys
(10:44 [3:34, 1:49, 5:21], 2/3, ok)

Euforia, Gran Guerrero, Último Guerrero beat Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr.
(12:28 [2:51, 1:55, 7:42], 1/3, great)

What happened: 

Soberano tornillo

Nothing really. On a low level, CMLL built towards the heavyweight title match they already had announced (Diamante Azul beating Terrible) and set the ground work for two more (Soberano/Mephisto, Guerreros/Sky Team), but nothing was played up much and it’s unlikely those are actually happening. CMLL showed off next week’s title match, and pushed the Dia de Muertos concept hard, and didn’t really do anything else.


The two trios in the main event picked right up where they left off. The match was good then took off in the third fall to some hectic madness. It was overall a lot smoother than the NGD match, and the pace was more amazing the Soberano one. It wasn’t exactly the same match as before: 2017 Gran Guerrero is easily better than 2016. Last year’s model didn’t have enough offense to wreck all the técnicos like this one did here, and he seemed more confident taking the big técnico spots. He probably could use more singles matches to push him to expand more, but the chances they’ve given Gran Guerrero in 2017 have led him to being a more complete wrestler. (His older brother still out did him with the dive catch bit.) I don’t think they did everything here – Mistico has many more ways to almost die than he got in tonight – so hopefully the outcome does lead to a title match sometime soon.

Cuatrero springboard elbow drop

The semimain was the usual regular match that I didn’t connect to at all. Vangellys spear on Marco looked good. So did Diamante Azul’s german suplex. Those are three sentences.

Lightning match was a total Soberano showcase, giving him a chance to do all his moves and dives. That’s kind of every big Mephisto match: he’ll do a few matches but he’ll mostly just base, and Soberano looked spectacular and fresh enough to make it work. The pace was slower than you’d like from a Soberano match, kind of thanks to the dive and Soberano playing dead outside the guardrail to set up another big move. They were both selling dead in under four minutes. It was probably to pace the match out for close to 10 minutes, and they did pull that off. This match should go somewhere, though I’m not dying to see them again because I’m not sure what’s left to do.

The tercera was leagues better than two matches that preceded it. That’s not saying much, but they were giving time and tried to make it a memorable match. NGD are advanced up to doing their double teams twice, to set up the second one going wrong for the comeback. They have a lot of ideas, even if they’re still working on getting them to work in the context of a match. Esfinge and Cuatrero did not seem to be on the same page. There was some spot the rudo was going to do during the beatdown but instead time just stood still, and they seemed off when they were back together in the third fall. The set up to the second set of triple dives seemed weird too, with the técnicos milling about doing nothing waiting for the rudos to get in position. Neither of these were dealbreakers, but places where they can still improve.

Sky Team

The women’s match looked rough on paper and lived up to those expectations. Vaquerita’s dive looked like it was going bad the whole way and ended worse. She was taking a million little steps and that seems like the wrong way to go about it. Reina Isis seems like Marcela’s personal project of an opponent. It’s good to see someone trying, and Reina Isis was at least definitely no longer the worse person in this match. She slows down before doing every move, though, which is hurt the impact. She also doesn’t seem to have all that many moves, another problem.

The opener was a thoroughly boring and useless match with neither side showing much interest. Metalico seemed to mess up breaking up a pin that got Nitro eliminated and the third fall over quicker than usual, so that worked out for the viewer. Stigma’s dive was nice.

the aforementioned dive

Sky Team versus Guerreros Laguneros tonight in Arena Mexico


CMLL hypes tonight’s show around the Sky Team being back together. They’ve been broken up because, uh, CMLL just hasn’t bothered to put them in the same matches. This is their first match as a trio in Arena Mexico since Homenaje a Dos Leyendas, and that’s all for 2017 Arena Mexico matches for the top tecnico trio. It’s also their only top trio of the year. CMLL did a lot of Mistico, Valiente and Volador against the Guerreros and other trios teams, and has backed away from it this year. We know they won’t be doing a title match next week, because Mistico & Volador are announced as being in the Rey del Inframundo tournament, it’s just likely a one week match to come up with something in between tournaments.

This is very much a non-entity show in terms of ongoing rivalries. Negro Casas & Sam Adonis have the week off and there’s nothing else going on. It’s a lot of random trios matches, like a Tuesday card. The NGD match is usually good, and they’ve got Guerrero Maya, T. Panther and Esfinge to work with. The only singles match on the show is Soberano getting his first match with notable enemy of flying tecnicos Mephisto. Soberano’s the one with the momentum, but beating Mephisto one on one would still be an upset for him at this point. The semimain is sort of a heavyweight title preview with Diamante Azul & Terrible on opposite sides of a trios match, but they didn’t butild that much up on Monday’s show and this will probably be no different. Marco, Niebla Roja, Rey Bucanero and Vangellys fill out the spots in the match. The opening matches are Starman & Stigma vs Metalico & Nitro, and Jarochita, Vaquerita, and Marcela against Amapola, Dalys and Reyna Isis, neither of which sounds that promising. The show starts at 8:30pm CT on Claro, but this might be one worth turning in just in time for the main event or skipping entirely.

Last Saturday’s Ultimo Guerrero/Gran Guerrero vs Diamatne Azul/Caristico main event, had a tiny turnout.

Lucha Brothers versus Ultimo Ninja & Mecha Wolf in Brownsville, Texas had a really big turnout. That’s a credit to the local promoters (3 BAT), who seemed to get about 1,500 people in the building.

Alberto el Patron announced a 11/21 show in Mexico City, to raise money for earthquake victims. It’s basically a FULL show (Alberto, Dos Caras, Tinieblas vs Pirata Morgan, Hijo del Pirata Morgan, Psicosis main event) with cheap tickets to try to raise a lot of money.

Diamante Azul is dedicating his title match to Hector Garza.

Argenis was the guest on this week’s AAA Zona Ruda.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update.

Lucha Libre VOZ is running a show at taco festival in Lafayette, Louisiana. There were a lot of taco festivals with lucha libre this year in the US this year; I hardly mention them because the details on the lucha rarely go more in depth than “there will be the lucha libre!”. (This preview is amusingly over the top.) It’s probably a pretty decent gig for the people who can those spots. It feels like a market LU definitely should’ve been in, or AAA should be aiming it, but it’s also a situation where the name value we might ascribe doesn’t resonate to the people putting these shows together. It’s all lucha libre to them.


The Crash (THU) 12/21/2017 Plaza de Toros La Bien Paga, Tapachula, Chiapas
1) ? & ?? vs ??? & ????
2) ? & ?? vs ??? & ????
3) Flamita vs Jack Evans
4) Gallo Sureño Jr. & M-ximo vs Gallo Traidor & Pierroth
5) Daga & The King vs Bestia 666 & Garza Jr.
6) Penta Zero M & Rey Misterio 619 vs La Máscara & Rush

I don’t know how many people in Chiapas are reading this, so this lineup is probably not really useful except to let you know Flamita vs Jack Evans is happening and you aren’t going to see it. It does seem help clarify The Crash schedule: a long tour in early November, a shorter late November/early December run (with LA Park & maybe Ricochet), and another mid?/late? December group of shows. They are scaling up.