CMLL Puebla: 2017-09-18 

Flip doesn’t know Titan did this for years and the rudos are ready for it

Recapped: 09/30/2017

All matches aired live from Arena Puebla


Guerrero Espacial & Sombra Diabólika beat Centella Roja & Hijo de Centella Roja
(15:21 [7:00, 5:22, 2:59], 2/3, n/r, via

Disturbio & King Jaguar beat Black Tiger & Espíritu Maligno  
(14:35 [9:13, 2:41, 2:41], 1/3, n/r, via

Lady Maravilla, Marcela, Princesa Sugehit beat Dalys, La Comandante, Zeuxis
(10:28 [2:52, 2:21, 5:15], 2/3, ok, via

Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón beat Esfinge, Stigma, Stuka Jr.  
(14:20 [5:09, 2:36, 6:35], 2/3, ok, via

Carístico, Dragón Lee, Soberano Jr. beat Kojima, Negro Casas, Último Guerrero
(12:11 [4:11, 2:46, 5:14], 2/3, ok, via

Gran Guerrero beat Niebla Roja 
(9:56 [3:52, 6:04], 1/2, ok, via

What happened: 

how rude

Gran Guerrero winning in straight falls was to set up a title match. They agree to it after the match, but it doesn’t happen (at least here) due to the earthquake.

Princesa Sugehit & Zeuxis continue to feud in their match, and that one does seem like it’s hanging around during the earthquake.


NGD have had enough these triple dives

Guerrero & Niebla came out with great energy, but the action just wasn’t that compelling to me. Niebla Roja kept it to the basic stuff, and it’s really Gran Guerrero who’s trying to established himself by trying to separate a bit more from his brother. (At least in moves, if not style; he’s getting his own submission like UG has his Stretch, but it’s something being used the same way.) An unmasked Niebla Roja should have more to offer than he showed here.

The semimain was a long way to go for a foul finish, though it at least was one they were setting up during the show. It felt like most of the guys were taking it easy and this didn’t live up to the names involved. Kojima still didn’t fit in here, but he seems like he’s having a fun time. Wrestling should be fun so that’s nice to see.

this didn’t go well

The NGD were entertaining in the fourth but didn’t have much to work with. Stigma and Esfinge were up and down, and they were a reminder of how lucky we are that the Cien Caras kids are turning out to be really good. The rudos seemed to do more mat work early on than usual, and their finish on Esfinge looked really good. Stuka does just enough masked that I wonder if he’s going to turn out to be a surprising charismatic guy if he ever loses that mask.

The women’s match was the usual post mask match feuding, with the loser getting the win back clean. Zeuxis & Sugehit are still going full speed with good chemistry, and I’m hoping they get another title match out of this. Dalys royally screwed up on a hair grab of Sugehit and they just repeated the spot. Maybe she’s tougher to grab with the mask. Dalys generally didn’t have a good night, was one of the weaker points of the match, and was a reason I only had this OK. This was a higher OK than usual, if you’re looking for CMLL women’s matches to watch.

NGD put a stop to Esfine

Soberano outdoes Cavernario, CMLL returns to Arena Mexico, FantasticaMania


CMLL (MON) 10/02/2017 Arena Puebla [CMLL]
1) Fuerza Chicana, Guerrero Espacial, Policeman b Arkalis, Black Tiger, Tigre Rojo Jr. LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 2 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
2) Lestat, Príncipe Diamante, Star Jr. b El Malayo, Hijo del Signo, King Jaguar LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 2 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
3) Princesa Sugehit & Sanely b Dalys & Zeuxis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 2 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Sugehit beat both Zeuxis & Dalys to set up a title match with Dalys.
4) Ángel de Oro, Esfinge, Stigma b Cuatrero, Sansón, Virus LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 2 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
5) Soberano Jr. © b Cavernario [MEX WELTERLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 2 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
first defense
6) Euforia, Marco Corleone, Último Guerrero DQ Flip Gordon, Pierroth, Rush [Relevos IncreíblesLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 2 DE OCTUBRE DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL)
Rush fouled Marco for the DQ

Soberano and Cavernario ended up doing All The Moves in their match. It was fun. Attendance seemed soft, but it’s hard to tell with Puebla since it seems to vary on it’s own.

Today is CMLL’s first show in Arena Mexico in 17 days. They ran last on the day after the Anniversary show, then the following Tuesday show was cancelled due to the earthquake and they’ve been shut down since. Last night’s Puebla show was treated ike a regular show, and I’d expect this to be pretty much the same.

There’s less going on with this show too, even with CMLL trying to set up as a big deal. Niebla Roja & Gran Guerrero rematch in the trios main event. Their title match in Puebla was canceled, so it’s always possible they may restart it on these shows. Volador, Marco, Cavernario and Euforia round out the match. Rey Cometa, Stuka and Titan take on Dragon Rojo, Polvora and Felino in the semimain. Guerrero Maya & Tiger face off in the lightning match, in what’s a first time ever singles match.

Sugehit & Zeuxis wrestle again, with Vaquerita, Marcela, Seductora and Tiffany as the partners. Templario moves up to the segunda to team with Arakngel & Metalico against Astral, Pegasso and Starman. A minis opener, Electrico & Ultimo Dragoncito versus Pequeno Olimpico & Pierroth, opens the show.

The show airs at 7:30 pm on YouTube


NJPW & CMLL announced the 2018 FantasticaMania tour. The tour expands to an eighth show next January.

01/12 (Friday): Nagoya
01/14 (Sunday): Kyoto
01/15 (Monday): Takamatsu
01/16 (Tuesday): Osaka
01/17 (Wednesday): Toyama
01/19 (Friday): Korakuen Hall
01/20 (Sunday): Korakuen Hall
01/21 (Monday): Korakuen Hall

Takamatsu & Toyama are new stops this year, replacing Ehime from last year. The Korakuen Hall shows always end up on NJPW World, and often does the tour starting one. The rest may air on SamuraiTV. These shows will generally start very early that morning in Central Time.

The list of participants is usually revealed during during the later portion of NJPW’s Power Struggle tour. It came out on 10/30 last year on one of their Korakuen Hall shows, and they have shows scheduled there 10/29 and 10/30. I have no inside information but I suspect the Dinamitas will debut on this show. There should be CMLL appearances in NJPW before then, with the annual junior tag team tournament coming up.

Mil Mascaras is wrestling in Japan on 10/27 (Tokyo) and 10/29 (Osaka).

I Don’t Know What Category This Goes

That program sure sounds like Lucha Underground. There is supposed to be some sort of resolution on Season 4 (at least as far as El Rey is concerned) this month. There’s not that many lucha libre wrestling programs that are casting people.

Except, LU people have said it would take 4 months from them to start taping from the time they got the green light, and taping this year went out this window months ago. It could be the information on the casting is wrong. It could be people involved in wrestling and TV not telling the complete truth. It could be an entirely different lucha libre show.

Part of me hopes it’s not another show, I can’t handle 2x the craziest LU’s already giving me. Part of me figures LU S4 getting leaked out ahead of time by production would be the way it happens.

Sean Ross Sapp writes for Fightful, so I guess watch there for more info. This is a good sign but don’t go planning trips to the Temple quite yet.

UPDATE: Eric Van Wagenen says this is not Lucha Underground. Who is it?

Other News

If you got the Masked Republic Lucha Loot box for September, you got a DVD with The Crash show from September 09/02. It does not include the opening match, but it has the rest of the show shot from a hard camera. This is the show with the LAX/OVE/Divino & Black Boy/Pirata & Maldito four way tag title match which aired in highlights on Impact, and had the Oraculo/Black Danger mask match. It’s good The Crash is doing this, though it’d be better if it was made more available. (I wonder if this video is now also on Konnan’s Patreon; I was under the impression it was just handheld early bit haven’t heard in months.)

SoCalUncensored has a review of the Heroes of Lucha Libre show.

Riot’s 11/04 show in Arena LLF has it’s first match

Nicho is listed on a 12/18 Generacion 21 show. (No location listed, usually Irapuato.) That’s about when he was expected to be back from his knee surgery.

When Karonte unmasked in Monterrey, he gave his info as Isidro Márquez Estrada, 62 years old, 40 years a wrestler. He’s not retiring but hinted he will be soon.

Box Y Lucha #3303 has CMLL resuming in Mexico City. It looks like they ran classic content inside for the lack of anything going on, which makes it more interesting than usual.

LuchaWorld has the latest news update and this week’s Poster-Mania.

TKD reviews this week’s Lucha Underground.

+LuchaTV has a new edition of their podcast, with Lanzeloth and Mascara 2000 Jr. as guests. He says the men in black with him of late are not Dinamtias. Fresero Jr. is also on talking the Lucha Memes match, with the idea they’re setting up a match with him and Caifan.

Shocker has a new restaurant.

Huck Magazine has photos of older luchadors. Everyone likes shooting Fray Tormenta.


CMLL (MON) 10/09/2017 Arena Puebla
1) Astro & Meyer vs Joker & Sombra Diabólika
2) Oro Jr. & Tigre Rojo Jr. vs Inquisidor & Rey Apocalipsis
3) Dalys © vs Princesa Sugehit [CMLL WOMEN]
12th defense
4) Esfinge, Pegasso, Stigma vs Cuatrero, Sansón, Virus
5) Mistico, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto
6) Euforia, Marco Corleone, Último Guerrero vs Rush, Sam Adonis, Terrible [Relevos Increíbles]

Esfinge & Stigma keep facing Cuatrero & Sanson, which probably should set up an Arena Coliseo Tag Title Match. Only, the main event is setting up Rush/Marco, and the semimain has the Sky Team teaming up for the first time since their last title defense in March. CMLL can’t be setting up all those title matches.

The match between the world champ and the national champ not even making the top half of the card says about where CMLL has the women slotted.

new lucha videos for the weekend of September 29th, 2017

IWRG feed remains broken. AAA feed cut off during the main event. The extra match they aired was the Llave match from last week.

AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-30
taped 2017-09-04 @ Palenque Inforum, Irapuato, Guanajuato – YouTube/Mega
1) Mini Psycho Clown © vs Dinastía for the AAA World Minis Championship
2) Hijo del Fantasma & Texano Jr. vs EC3 & James Storm
3) Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr.Rey Escorpión

CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-09-30
taped 2017-09-26 @ Arena Coliseo Guadalajara – YouTube/Mega
1) Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr., Titán vs Cuatrero, Forastero, Sansón
2) Marco Corleone, Soberano Jr., Valiente vs Luciferno, Mephisto, Pierroth
3) Flip Gordon vs Último Guerrero

CMLL Lucha Azteca: 2017-09-30
taped 2017-09-16 @ Arena México – YouTube/Mega
1) Carístico, Flip Gordon, Volador Jr. vs Kojima, Mephisto, Último Guerrero
2) Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero for the mask