AAA on Televisa: 2017-09-02 

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Recapped: 09/14/2017

All matches were taped at Palenque de la Fiera Nacional De San Marcos in Aguascalientes on July 27.

Matches:

Angélico beat Joe Lider
(6:31, Fall of the Angels, below average, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Lady Shani defeated Big Mami, Goya Kong, and La Hiedra to win a spot in the Reina de Reinas title match at TripleMania
(5:56, Lady Shani backracker La Hiedra, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker beat Aerostar, Drago, Raptor
(0:49, Mocho Cota cradle suplex Drago, n/r, via Lucha Libre AAA)

Pagano & Psycho Clown beat  Dr. Wagner Jr. & El Mesías
(14:56, Psycho Clown Code Red Dr. Wagner, ok, via Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened: 

who need a tailbone

Even though every other AAA tag match is first pinfall for the win, and even the multiwoman match was first pinfall, the main event suddenly became an elimination match after Pagnao was pinned. Everyone was confused, but they mostly wanted Psycho to be handicapped and get two pins in a row to win. Mesias beat Pagano, Psycho beat Mesias, and Psycho beat Wagner after a few minutes more. Wagner attacked and unmasked Psycho to end the show.

Raptor landed a plancha on one of Poder del Norte, but the others snuck in thru a ground exit. They laid out Aerostar & Raptor with moves on the steps, then Cota quickly beat Mocho Cota. The post match attack lasted about as long as the match. Ratpor was treated as injured, but he was on TripleMania, so who knows. The técnicos now lead two matches to one.

The four way match was for the title shot that already happened at TripleMania. Goya attacked everyone on the way to the ring, which didn’t mean anything but started everyone attacking everyone else. Shani seemed to be back to being a ruda here.

Thoughts:

this was good for Raptor

The AAA shows feel more like something to endure than enjoy. This particular lame duck taping is the worst – this is where the Hard Rock show needs to go, even though it’ll never happen – but this hasn’t been a fun show in a while.

The main event was explicitly a preview of TripleMania, as hyped by the announcers. It’s unnecessary and beside the point after the fact, outside of the oddity of Psycho & Wagner running thru the TripleMania finish. It looked better here, as did Pagano’s dropkick off the apron. The crowd was way into this, but I could find a reason to care.

The best matches on these shows have been the Poder del Norte/tecnicos match, so this one was scarely more than an angle. I guess the idea is not to make sure all the matches feel different, but I would’ve been happy with five about the same.

The woman’s match was just a lot of moves. The tried to set up sequences but it was mostly the women betraying each other repeatedly with no direction. It ended and that was good, the moves generally look OK, and there wasn’t enough here to hate. It did feel a lot longer than six minutes, maybe just because Goya was attacking before the whistle, maybe because it was just a lot of stuff.

Someone totally forgot the finish in the opener. Either Angelico forgot, or Lider went to the top for it far sooner than then he was planned. Both men spent a lot of time waiting for each other to do something, and I spent time wondering why AAA couldn’t have made an edit. This was a boring match with a really bad looking moment, not exactly the return to TV you’d hope for Angelico. It’s also not a super logical build for Joe Lider, who’s only been on TV three times since April, lost all those matches, and will somehow be main eventing the next card. Did AAA not know Lider was main eventing the next show at this point? Were they trying to do something to convince Angelico to stick around? Does it just not make any sense because it’s AAA? Probably.

this was not good for Raptor

CMLL Anniversary one day away, not much today

here’s a reminder of Niebla Roja’s finish, in case it should become something you need to know later.

It’s a strangely quiet Friday. There’s no CMLL show, with the Anniversario taking place tomorrow. The bigger shows are outside of Mexico: the Rockstar Pro/Chilanga Mask show in Dayton, Ohio and a Rey Mysterio led show at a casino in San Diego.

Again, that iPPV is tomorrow in Mexico at 5pm CT. You can see the start time where you live here. There’s still plenty of floor seats available over on Ticketmaster.

MedioTiempo talks about the history of what day the Anniversary show has been held on. I write a little about this in a preview going up on Voices of Wrestling, but I wonder if CMLL might permanently attach this show to Independence Day. It would seem like a good idea if they can draw with this card, and most of their biggest shows are now held on or about holidays. The Dia de Muertos shows are coming up (and would be a logical place for an Adonis/Casas match if that’s the direction), and CMLL will also hold big shows on Christmas Day and New Year’s Day. 09/16 falls on Sunday next year, a more traditional CMLL day where they could pull this off again.

La Informa has an interview with Gran Guerrero, who sees Saturday’s match as a way to make his own name. The article claims Gran Guerrero wrestled as Ultimo Guerrero Junior briefly between being Taurus & Gran Guerrero, which did not actually happen. Princesa Sugehit sees her mask match as a way to cap an excellent year. Zeuxis says she doesn’t know how she’d go on without her mask.

In probably misleading statistics, CMLL’s Twitter post for Princesa Sugehit & Zeuxis got a lot more favorites & RTs than the one for Niebla Roja & Gran Guerrero. The women’s match and men’s match are much closer on Facebook (and much more responded to in general.)

AAA posted photos and video of their work with the Red Cross yesterday. 3 tons of products were donated.

One more team was announced for the Lucha World Cup

1: Mexico (AAA): TBA
2: Mexico (LU): TBA
3: USA (NOAH): Cody Hall & Quiet Storm
4: USA (LU): TBA
5: Japan (NOAH): Taiji Ishimori & HI69
6: International (IGF): NOSAWA & Kendo Kashin – new and not really international
7: International (LU): TBA
8: UK/New Zealand (FREE?): TBA

Sexy Star is also no longer appearing on these shows. That seemed certain once AAA took the Reina de Reinas titles back. AAA still hasn’t acknowledged this show.

Kaho Kobayashi won the REINA International Junior Championship (Keyra’s old title) on the REINA show today.

Impact/GFW teased holding their Bound for Glory PPV in England, which would explain why Super Fly mentioned AAA wrestlers would soon be going there – but PWInsider says it’s a weird fakeout and they won’t actually be in the UK.

An English language El Desperado interview on NJPW’s site brings up Coliseo Coacalco in passing. Desperado calls the ring and the locker room terrible as part of a larger point that it doesn’t matter how bad the situation is (with Coacalco being put up there as pretty bad), it’s still wrestling and he’s still giving it his all.

I happened to be getting thru some podcast backlog today and heard Drew Galloway/McInteyre on Chris Jericho’s show. Drew talks about all the difference places he wrestled during his hiatus and AAA immediately springs to mind when he’s talking about the worst rings. He worked a Lucha World Cup and those Viva el Rey tour shows in 2015. I think Mexican wrestlers are used to these situations because they haven’t experienced anything also, but they should know that everyone outside of Mexico has a poor impression of Mexican wrestling because of the conditions they’re asked to work in.

Voices of Wrestling has JR Goldberg writing about Negro Casas and El Hijo del Santo.

Aerostar faces Steve Pain in LA on 10/22. The two had what’s said to be a great dark in Lucah Underground and matched up well in AAA when Pain was still there.

Mecha Wolf/Mr. 450 was cleared in of domestic violence, stemming from an incident that happened back in March.

CultIcon continues his history of CMLL.

Sensacional de Luchadors continues interview Aeroboy with talk about ChilangaMask & CZW.

great match roundup, week of 2017-08-26

one last Elgin gif

watched this week

I think I successful updated the date this time. I think I really liked the Gran Prix. I think even I don’t understand how I didn’t give the ladder match a better grade. Maybe everything after it ruined it? I think AAA had three really bad matches on the TripleMania main card alone, and yet are probably going to get away with it because the people who care were there just for Psycho/Wagner and the curious onlookers don’t think much of AAA anyway. I think not having AAA for a couple weeks (and not having a Mexico trip impending) is going to make this a little quicker to catch up.

Recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
excellent Diamante Azul, Dragón Lee, Euforia, Mephisto, Rush, Último Guerrero, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Johnny Idol, Juice Robinson, Kenny King, Kojima, Marco Corleone, Matt Taven, Michael Elgin, Sam Adonis in a CMLL Gran Prix Tournament match 2017 Gran Prix (TV version) (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-09-01 2017-09-01
great Ángel Mortal Jr., Tiger Boy, Villano III Jr. vs Angelikal, Hijo Del Vikingo, The Tigger [La Llave a La Gloria] Final Torneo La Llave a la Gloria Segunda Lucha COMPLETA (posted by Estrellas del Ring)Triplemania XXV COMPLETO - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) AAA PPV: 2017-08-26 2017-08-26
great Carístico, Mistico, Soberano Jr. vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-09-01 2017-09-01
good Big Mami, Dinastía, Estrella Divina, Máscara de Bronce vs Hernandez, La Hiedra, Mamba, Mini Psycho Clown Mini Psycho, Hérnandez, Hiedra y Mamba vs Estrella Divina, Dinastía, Big Mami y Máscara de Bronce (posted by Estrellas del Ring)Triplemania XXV COMPLETO - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) AAA PPV: 2017-08-26 2017-08-26
good Dark Cuervo & Dark Scoria vs Aerostar & Drago and Monsther Clown & Murder Clown and Andrew Everett & DJZ for the AAA World Tag Team Championship Murder y Monster Clown vs Drago y Aerostar vs DJZ y Andrew Everett vs Cuervo y Scoria (posted by Estrellas del Ring)Triplemania XXV COMPLETO - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) AAA PPV: 2017-08-26 2017-08-26
good Johnny Mundo © vs Texano Jr.Hijo del Fantasma [TLC] and for the AAA World Heavyweight Championship and for the AAA World Cruiserweight Championship and for the AAA Latin American Championship Jonnhy Mundo vs Texano Jr vs Hijo del Fantasma TRES CAMPEONATOS EN JUEGO (posted by Estrellas del Ring)Triplemania XXV COMPLETO - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) AAA PPV: 2017-08-26 2017-08-26
good Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr. for the mask Dr Wagner Jr VS Psycho Clown triplemania 25 (posted by RINGEXTREMO) Dr. Wagner Jr vs Psycho Clown ¡¡¡ MÁSCARA vs MÁSCARA EN TRIPLEMANIA XXV !!! (posted by Estrellas del Ring)Triplemania XXV COMPLETO - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) Triplemania XXV-Dr. Wagner Jr. VS Pycho Clown(máscara vs máscara) (posted by RUDO VISION) AAA PPV: 2017-08-26 2017-08-26
good Diamante Azul, Euforia, Pierroth, Rush, Volador Jr. vs Johnny Idol, Juice Robinson, Marco Corleone, Matt Taven, Michael Elgin in a cibernetico match Mexico vs the World cibernetico from CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-08-26 (posted by thecubsfan) CMLL Guadalajara: 2017-08-26 2017-08-22
good Diamante Azul, Euforia, Rush, Último Guerrero, Valiente, Volador Jr. vs Johnny Idol, Juice Robinson, Marco Corleone, Matt Taven, Michael Elgin, Sam Adonis in a cibernetico match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 28 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-28 2017-08-28
good Fiero & Sangre Imperial vs Grako & Templario LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 29 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-29 2017-08-29
good Drone, Fuego, Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Puma, Tiger, VirusLUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 29 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-29 2017-08-29
good Titán vs Pólvora in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 29 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-29 2017-08-29
good Marty Martinez vs Argenis Lucha Underground: 2017-08-30 2016-06-11
good Son of Havoc vs Son Of Madness [biker’s brawl] and [Aztec Medallion] Lucha Underground: 2017-08-30 2016-06-11

Other stuff timed

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Asturiano & Meyer vs Ares & Joker LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 28 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-28 2017-08-28
ok Millenium & Rey Samuray vs El Malayo & King Jaguar LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 28 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-28 2017-08-28
ok Drone & Guerrero Maya Jr. vs Misterioso Jr. & SagradoLA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 28 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-28 2017-08-28
ok Ángel de Oro, Dragón Lee, Mistico vs Cavernario, Mephisto, Negro Casas LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 28 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-28 2017-08-28
ok Dragón Lee, Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Rey Bucanero LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 29 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-29 2017-08-29
ok Son Of Madness vs Máscarita Sagrada Lucha Underground: 2017-08-30 2016-06-11
ok Joey Ryan vs Sexy Star Lucha Underground: 2017-08-30 2016-06-11
ok Blue Panther, Blue Panther Jr., The Panther vs Cuatrero, Máscara Año 2000, Sansón CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-09-01 2017-09-01
ok Marcela, Princesa Sugehit, Silueta vs Amapola, Dalys, Zeuxis CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-09-01 2017-09-01
below average Bronco González Jr., Chicano, Fetiche, Hahastary vs Ashley, Dragón Solar, Pardux, Solaris [La Llave a la Gloria] Final Torneo La Llave a la Gloria Primera Lucha COMPLETA (posted by Estrellas del Ring) La mejor Lucha de Triplemania 25 -Final de llave a la gloria - (posted by SoloLuchaLibre) Triplemania XXV COMPLETO - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) AAA PPV: 2017-08-26 2017-08-26
below average Pagano vs El Mesías [street fight] Pagano vs el Mesias mano a mano en Triplemania XXV COMPLETO (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Triplemania XXV COMPLETO - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) Triplemania XXV-El Mesías VS Pagano (posted by RUDO VISION) AAA PPV: 2017-08-26 2017-08-26
bad Sexy Star © vs Lady ShaniAyako HamadaRosemary in a AAA’s Reina de Reinas Tournament match Sexy Star vs Rose Mary vs Ayako Hamada vs Lady Shani REINA DE REINAS COMPLETO (posted by Estrellas del Ring)Triplemania XXV COMPLETO - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) Triplemania XXV-Sexy Star(C) VS Lady Shani VS Ayako Hamada VS Rosemary (posted by RUDO VISION) AAA PPV: 2017-08-26 2017-08-26
bad Argenis vs BengalaLa ParkaAustralian SuicideFaby ApachePimpinela EscarlataAvernoChessmanSúper FlyBobby LashleyJeff JarrettMooseDecnnisScorpió Jr.ZumbidoHisteriaManiacoPsicosisHalloweenMr. ÁguilaX-FlyCrazy BoyJoe LiderNiño HamburguesaHeavy MetalLanzelothRicky MarvinBlue Demon Jr.El CobardePirata Morgan [Torneo Triplemania] Torneo XXV Aniversario AAA (posted by Estrellas del Ring) Triplemania XXV COMPLETO - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Agosto 2017 (posted by luchalibreaaatv) AAA PPV: 2017-08-26 2017-08-26
not rated Astral, Pegasso, Stigma vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Nitro, Sangre Azteca LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 29 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-29 2017-08-29
not rated Ángel de Oro, Carístico, Diamante Azul vs Gran Guerrero, Pierroth, Rush LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 29 DE AGOSTO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-08-29 2017-08-29