AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-29 

suicide SSP

Recapped: 07/30/2017

Matches: 

All the matches aired from Gimnasio Miguel Hidalgo, Puebla, Puebla, and were taped 06/30/2017 

Australian Suicide beat Bengala  
(8:20, tornillo 450 splash, good, via
Lucha Libre AAA)

Aerostar, Drago, Raptor beat Carta Brava Jr., Mocho Cota Jr., Soul Rocker
(7:08, Aerostar handspring casadora cradle, good, via 
Lucha Libre AAA)

Averno, Chessman, Súper Fly beat Argenis, La Parka, Lanzeloth 
(9:15, Super Fly frog splash Lanzeloth, ok, via 
Lucha Libre AAA)

Máscara de Bronce defeated Hernandez and Kevin Kross for the #1 contedner’s briefcase
(4:56, Mascara de Bronce 450 splash Hernandez, below average, via 
Lucha Libre AAA)

What happened: 

Aerostar splash

AAA seems to be alternating tapings with vignettes – there were some on the last show, there’s not any on this taping.

Kross & Hernandez take turns at beating up Mascara de Bronce in the “main event” until Hernandez knocks Kross down by throwing Bronce at him. Kross attacks Herandnez and sets up a table on the outside. Kross considers both men before throwing Bronce out and setting up to chokeslam Hernandez over the top rope and thru the table. Johnny Mundo shows up to ask Kross what he’s doing (and it’s a good question, gonna be tough to get Hernandez over.) Kross throws Hernandez down and, while Kross & Mundo discuss their business relationship, Bronce sneaks to the top rope and lands a 450 splash for the win. Kross comes back to the ring and chokeslams Bronce thru that table. Mundo tries to order Hernandez to take care of Kross, but Hernandez doesn’t seem to agree with that idea. Kross shows off the briefcase to Mundo, and the point is he and Mundo are definitely done. The real big news is AAA figured out this briefcase was supposed to be #1 between tapings.

In the third match, Lanzeloth took out Argenis by mistake via moonsault to the floor, then Parka also mistakenly takes out referee Copetes with a dropkick. Parka is still doing fine until Chessman catches him with a punch. OGT stall, choking Parka in the corner, obviously waiting for something to happen but having to a wait longer than they seem to be expecting. Finally, someone cues Ricky Marvin’s music. Marvin, wearing a La Parka shirt, cleans house with some help from Lanzleoth – until he nearly hits Parka by mistake, then Averno actually does shoves Marvin into Parka. Averno fouls Lanzleoth. Copetes finally returns from the dead to count three. The técnicos want nothing to do with Ricky after the match – they’re upset about him disappearing and coming back to cost them the match, but it’s not explained well this week. (Impressively for a lucha libre promotion, they’ve already recut the entrance video for Poder del Norte with Carta & Tito unmasked.)

Australian Suicide & Bengala, who broke up twice and then were partners again last time we saw them, had a heated rivalry match. Suicide is definitely a rudo by this match, but wins cleanly on his second attempt at landing his finish.

The TripleMania press conference is shown.

Thoughts: 

Bronce is here to be thrown around pretty easily

The three way match was not even really a match, an angle and a couple of stunts. Bronce got tossed around the whole match, snuck in a fluee win, and then was back to being destroyed. They’re getting Kross over as much bigger deal than these two guys and I think that’s obviously the real plan but he probably needs to interact with people who are bigger deal than these two. The Mundo/Kross breakup seems way too fast, they were barely an onscreen team before it happened.

The semimain was a much better version of the Juarez trios match with the same guys. The rudos were entertaining destroying the tecnicos early, La Parka’s comedy spots didn’t monopolize the match as much, and they gave Lanzleoth much more things to do to justify his inclusion. Super Fly is finding a way to die in every match. The finish was way overbooked – Marvin returns to be a failure? – but this is still one of the better matches in the feud.

Suicide wins

The trios title match was a lot of fun, a full on sprint from the start that worked the entire time. It was worked a little bit like a CMLL match (careta leads to the comeback) but at a faster pace and some riskier spots than normally seen there. The last match was Poder Del Norte looking like a team, and the técnicos had caught up to them quite a bit with their teamwork in this match. Aerostar was especially out there, he’s really fallen in love with the shin aided springboard of late and he causally did the reverse springboard to the floor of death in the opening minutes of the match. This was only seven minutes but it felt like they packed a lot more into it, and it’s great we’re getting four more of these. I could see people liking the match even more than I did.

The opener was a fun midcard match between two rivals, the sort of thing we don’t get enough of on this show but really worked here. Both guys were really trying to make something out of this and it felt like they succeeded. It wasn’t as personal as it might have been and the neck vice killing time thing was the slowest moment, but it did follow a crazy shooting star press to the floor. They worked in some believable near falls near the end, it took Suicide two tries to hit the corkscrew SSP, and he was the right guy to win.

Stuka/Mephisto in Puebla, IWRG, Blue Demon

photo by Black Terry Jr.

IWRG (SUN) 08/06/2017 Arena Naucalpan [+LuchaTV]
1) Lunatic Xtreme b Celestial Boy
2) Demonio Infernal & Diablo Jr. b Fly Tiger & Shaolin
3) Argos & Dr. Karonte Jr. b Mr. Magia & Teelo
Mr. Magia replaced Mike (injury)
4) Eterno, Kempo Jr., Monaguillo b Bombero Infernal, Freelance, Hijo del Alebrije
setting up Eterno & Bombero Infernal hair match
5) Gallo Frances b Black Dragón
Gallo Frances challenged Black Dragon to a mask vs mask match.
6) Emperador Azteca, Golden Magic, Hijo De Dos Caras DQ Herodes Jr., Hijo del Pantera, Internacional Pantera
Hijo de Dos faked a foul and challenged for a title match again
7) Black Warrior & Warrior Jr. b Hijo de Pirata Morgan & Pirata Morgan
Warrior Jr. snuck in a foul on Pirata Morgan

Frances/Dragon sounds like a foreigner losing his mask on his way out of town, which still could be fun.

MedioTiempo posted an interview with Psicosis/Ripper, which was from the last TripleMania press and might be a trasnscript of the interview he did with +LuchaTV since it’s the same subjects. It’s relevant today, because he mentions Histeria/Morphosis and Maniaco will be hopefully with him, and Morphosis is today booked in Puebla. Psicosis/Ripper also says he left CMLL on good terms, though he was still booked on a CMLL card the week he left. Likewise, Morphosis is listed tonight in Puebla but no one expects him to actually be there. Psicosis name drops Heavy Metal and Cibernetico as people AAA is talking to about coming in for the Copa TripleMania. Cibernetico’s amount of matches have diminished with the closing of Elite. Heavy Metal has disappeared on his own; only 11 known matches last year, and five this year.

One more name worth considering for as an AAA return for that match: Zorro. He was noticeably missing from all the The Crash shows, and was quietly removed from the Revolucha shows this weekend. He’s been dealing with a neck injury, bad enough that he seemed to be wrestling in a neck brace at times, so it could just be taking care of himself. Even if there’s nothing to it this weekend, he still fits the same category of stars from AAA’s past who AAA would want to reach out for their 25th Anniversary show. I’m sure they’ve asked, and it’s just about if there’s a deal to be made.

Morphosis’ match tonight isn’t all that interesting: the random lineup generation spits out the Panther kids & Soberano against Kraneo, Olimpico and whoever replaced Morphosis. The main event is strange, a relevos incriebles with rudos only one side. Essentially, Diamante Azul is a rudo for night with Negro Casas & Ultimo Guerrero against Caristicio, Marco Corleone and Mistico. It could be that a rudo just wasn’t available for that spot for whatever reason and Azul being on that side means nothing, but it also points at a Azul/Corleone match.

The big match is Stuka challenging Mephisto for the CMLL Welterweight Championship. Both men’s singles matches seem to depend on who they’re working with. They’re good trios wrestlers who haven’t shown a lot more they can do when they’re on their own. They’d had three 1v1 matches before – one in Arena Mexico, one on FanasticaMania – and Mephisto wins every time. It’ll probably the same here.

The rest of the show has Zeuxis & Sugehit running into each other again in a rare 2v2 women’s match, and a couple openers with mostly locals and nothing going on. The show airs at 9pm CT on CMLL’s YouTube.

In an in-ring promo on Saturday’s The Crash show, he said they’d be doing Jack Evans vs Bestia 666 in a hair match, Black Danger vs Oraculo in a mask match, and Daga vs Garza Jr. in a hair match by the end of the year. That last one is going to be the toughest.

El Universal says Televisa has been sued for unauthorized use of Blue Demon in the TV series of the same. It’s a really short story, but is not a surprise – articles leading into the show mentioned one of Blue Demon’s non-wrestling sons gave the ok, while luchador Blue Demon Jr. generally refused to talk about it but hinted he was very unhappy with the fictional story. The two have had disagreements over who owns the name and in what ways for years, this is just it coming back to life again.

Black Terry Jr. has amazing photos from the Zona 23 show.

the Vampiro/Mundo/Taya thing has probably been a storyline from the start

On this week’s TV, AAA aired a vignette with Johnny Mundo and Vampiro arguing over Vampiro taking the AAA Reina de Reinas championship from Taya. Among other things, you get to learn how AAA translates douchebag to Spanish.

The backstage segment appeared along side the matches AAA taped on June 30th in Puebla. There’s also a skit with Hijo del Fatnasma & Vampiro in that same room. I had assumed that, AAA had actually taped the vignettes later, to work off Twitter feuds and fill in storyline gaps, and then edited it back into the older taping. I assumed wrong.

A couple weeks ago, AAA aired two skits of Johnny Mundo calling Kevin Kross (as part of a storyline where Kross is splitting from Johnny Mundo.) Let’s look at the room

via AAA

It’s the same walls and the same duct work. I know, you don’t want to hear about duct work on Monday mornings, but here we are. These skits and the one with Vampiro telling Johnny Mundo he was taking away the Reina de Reinas title from Vampiro look to like they were taped in the same place. The Kross/Mundo aired on the July 22nd episode of AAA TV, the Aguascalientes TV was taped on July 27th, so it’s impossible they were taped in Aguascalientes. The previous time Mundo was in Mexico before that was – the June 30th Puebla show, which this skit aired along side. They had to be taped on June 30th.

Here’s what Dave Meltzer wrote in the Wrestling Observer in his July 24th edition, likely told to him by Johnny Mundo himself

The story actually dates back to when Johnny Mundo was being brought to Mexico for a photo shoot with all three of his belts. They said they were doing shoots with all the belts and asked Mundo to bring Taya’s belt with him when he came in. Then when he was there, they said they needed to shoot more photos with the Reina de Reinas belt, so asked him to leave the belt there so they could do that. Then, when they had possession of the belt back, they announced that Taya had been stripped of the title because she used a choke when she won the title from Ayako Hamada (which was back on 4/21 in Tijuana in what has been called the company’s best match of the year) and that the title could only change hands via pin or submission.

That can not be true if AAA taped those both the Vampiro & Kross vignettes in Puebla. Puebla was taped on June 30th. AAA didn’t announce the title was vacant until July 1st. Mundo taped a skit talking about AAA keeping the Reina de Reinas a day before he claims he knew AAA was taking them away. It does not add up as the truth, so it has to be a storyline.

What I think was supposed to happen is Taya was going to drop the title in Nuevo Laredo to set up the Sexy Star title win, couldn’t because of the car accident, couldn’t make it to another show to do it, they came up with this storyline to handle it, and it blew up way more than they were expecting. But don’t take my word for it, I’ve been wrong on this one – LOUD wrong on this one – from the start. It didn’t make sense to me why they would do some of the stuff they’ve done if it was a storyline and it still doesn’t really, but it looks to me like it was one from the start.

if I’m right, the practical things we can take from this

  • Johnny Mundo’s on much better terms than AAA than we thought and isn’t a certainty to drop the titles at TripleMania by any means
  • the foreigner that’s been hinted at added to the Lady Shani/Sexy Star title match at TripleMania might be Taya after all. That’ll make for a really heated match.
  • everyone in LU doesn’t really hate Vampiro and Vampiro isn’t as bad at his job as it seemed; he actually took a bullet on this one to get it over.
  • don’t tape all your vignettes in the same room if they’re supposed to happen in different cities

great match roundup, week of 2017-07-22

Drago rope climb DDT

watched in this general concept of a week

Pentagon working a really nice lucha match is a change of pace in 2017.

Recommended matches

rating matches TV Show taped
great Pentagón Dark vs Drago [Cueto Cup] and [8f] Lucha Underground: 2017-07-26 2016-05-14
great Drone, Soberano Jr., Titán vs Cuatrero, Forastero, SansónLUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-28 2017-07-28
good Shockercito vs Pierrothito in a lightning match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-24 2017-07-24
good Rey Cometa vs Virus in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 25 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-25 2017-07-25
good Dragón Lee, Guerrero Maya Jr., Johnny Idol vs Dragón Rojo Jr., Pólvora, Vangellys LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 25 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-25 2017-07-25
good Texano vs the Mack [Cueto Cup] and [8f] Lucha Underground: 2017-07-26 2016-05-15
good Rey Mysterio Jr. vs PJ Black Lucha Underground: 2017-07-26 2016-05-08
good Esfinge, Fuego, Pegasso vs Puma, Raziel, Tiger LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-28 2017-07-28
good Stuka Jr. vs Hechicero in a lightning match LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-28 2017-07-28
good Carístico, Mistico, Niebla Roja vs Gran Guerrero, Mephisto, Último Guerrero LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-28 2017-07-28

Other matches watched

rating matches TV Show taped
ok Argenis & La Parka vs Averno & Súper Fly AAA Worldwide en Nuevo Laredo Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Julio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-22 2017-06-19
ok Hijo del Fantasma, Pagano, Psycho Clown vs Dr. Wagner Jr., El Mesías, Kevin Kross in a relevos increíbles match AAA Worldwide en Nuevo Laredo Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Julio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-22 2017-06-19
ok Arkalis & París vs Guerrero Espacial & Perverso LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-24 2017-07-24
ok La Vaquerita, Princesa Sugehit, Sanely vs La Seductora, Tiffany, Zeuxis LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-24 2017-07-24
ok Ángel de Oro, Stigma, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Luciferno, Mephisto LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-24 2017-07-24
ok Dragón Lee, Mistico, Titán vs Cavernario, Felino, Negro Casas LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-24 2017-07-24
ok Carístico, Diamante Azul, Euforia vs Pierroth, Rush, Volador Jr. in a relevos increíbles match LA MEJOR LUCHA LIBRE EN VIVO DESDE LA ARENA PUEBLA 24 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-24 2017-07-24
ok Fiero & Sangre Imperial vs Apocalipsis & Yago LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 25 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-25 2017-07-25
ok Astral, Oro Jr., Star Jr. vs Arkángel de la Muerte, Cancerbero, Sangre Azteca LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 25 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-25 2017-07-25
ok Blue Panther Jr., Stigma, The Panther vs Disturbio, Misterioso Jr., Sagrado Disturbio Cmll Arena México CDMX 25.07.2017 (posted by Princesa Dorada) Disturbio Cmll Arena México CDMX 25.07.2017 (posted by Princesa Dorada) Disturbio Cmll Arena México CDMX 25.07.2017 (posted by Princesa Dorada) LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 25 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-25 2017-07-25
ok Ángel de Oro, Marco Corleone, Volador Jr. vs Negro Casas, Rey Bucanero, Terrible LUCHA LIBRE MARTES DE NUEVOS VALORES EN LA ARENA MEXICO 25 DE JULIO DEL 2017 (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL YouTube: 2017-07-25 2017-07-25
ok Eléctrico & Stukita vs Mercurio & Pequeño Nitro LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-28 2017-07-28
ok Blue Panther, Diamante Azul, Valiente vs Pierroth, Rush, Sam Adonis LUCHA LIBRE VIERNES ESPECTACULAR DE ARENA MEXICO 28 DE JULIO DEL 2017 FUNCION COMPLETA (posted by VideosOficialesCMLL) CMLL on ClaroSports.com: 2017-07-28 2017-07-28
below average Estrella Divina vs Pimpinela Escarlata AAA Nuevo Laredo Junio 19 2017 Estrella Divina vs Pimpinela Escarlata (posted by Luis Ordonez) AAA Worldwide en Nuevo Laredo Parte 2 - Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide - Julio 2017 (posted by Lucha Libre AAA) AAA on Televisa: 2017-07-22 2017-06-19